Guild Wars 2

Dee Jay.2460:

What you’re referring to is the oh so popular “culling issue”.

Addressing it is on the top of ANets list.

OP, as others have said it a known issue with the game. The dev team is aware of it and are trying to fix it.

However, I don’t think they can solve it. They’ve tried multiple things to date, which leads me to believe they don’t fully understand root cause. Or if they do understand root cause, it would require such a massive re-write of code, that they are just trying top put band-aids on it where they can.

/infraction for criticism in 3…2…1…

Cover Girl.2580:

zoobaby.7804:

Thobek.1730:

Jedbacca.6297:

Thobek.1730:

CHIPS.6018:

Story #2.

So like always SBI got 2v1ed. We were down to Veloka and our keep. While we were fighting JQ zerg in Veloka, the SoS zerg skip our keep and came attack us from behind. After killing most of us, SoS pulled back and let JQ finish the job.

Well played. Very well played. As if we being outmanned wasn’t enough.

I wasn’t there but its something I would do. Hit the team that is coming 2nd place. Especially since you’ve had that thief of yours constantly jumping the keep walls and flipping them. Seeing a SBI name tag just reminds me of him.

Props to StrikeForce (SF) because I believe they will not defend a tower he has flipped. I tip my hat to your sportsmanship.

Thank you sir, we do not promote any of that game play so much that we have actually relocated our whole team to different maps because of this. I want nothing near an SF tag that may give someone the thought that we play like that. We prefer proper kittening people, not backdooring with shady tactics.

good to hear, hopefully you shouldn’t have to resort to such measures for much longer. The guy has dug himself into a deep hole. If he isn’t banned I will be surprised and disappointed.

other than that its been a good battle this week. People are feeling the drain of summer holidays (SoS being a oceanic server) you will not see many of us on next week. I predict we will be beaten extremely badly with most of us heading off on holiday to beaches etc.

It’s been about 2 weeks from a mass reporting. I am shocked his account hasn’t been banned yet. At this point, I don’t think Anet gives a kitten about WvW.

Happy Holidays

I think he’s wanting to get banned to prove a point. while I don’t condone what he does, I understand. his reasoning is that if he can get enough people to call attention to it, they will have to fix it. there’s no real rush to ban people that abuse the terrain as proven time and time again. Anet is sending a clear message that it’s ok.

Based on his comments in /map the other day, I believe you are correct. The fact that he has been reported multiple times and nothing has happened yet is frustrating.

I find Anet’s concerns of my character names over that of exploiter/hacker to be sad. Brothel Babe was just too much!

Thobek.1730:

Jedbacca.6297:

Thobek.1730:

CHIPS.6018:

Story #2.

So like always SBI got 2v1ed. We were down to Veloka and our keep. While we were fighting JQ zerg in Veloka, the SoS zerg skip our keep and came attack us from behind. After killing most of us, SoS pulled back and let JQ finish the job.

Well played. Very well played. As if we being outmanned wasn’t enough.

I wasn’t there but its something I would do. Hit the team that is coming 2nd place. Especially since you’ve had that thief of yours constantly jumping the keep walls and flipping them. Seeing a SBI name tag just reminds me of him.

Props to StrikeForce (SF) because I believe they will not defend a tower he has flipped. I tip my hat to your sportsmanship.

Thank you sir, we do not promote any of that game play so much that we have actually relocated our whole team to different maps because of this. I want nothing near an SF tag that may give someone the thought that we play like that. We prefer proper kittening people, not backdooring with shady tactics.

good to hear, hopefully you shouldn’t have to resort to such measures for much longer. The guy has dug himself into a deep hole. If he isn’t banned I will be surprised and disappointed.

other than that its been a good battle this week. People are feeling the drain of summer holidays (SoS being a oceanic server) you will not see many of us on next week. I predict we will be beaten extremely badly with most of us heading off on holiday to beaches etc.

It’s been about 2 weeks from a mass reporting. I am shocked his account hasn’t been banned yet. At this point, I don’t think Anet gives a kitten about WvW.

Happy Holidays

Thank you for at least posting the link to interview here. This is one way you can improve the communication. You’re catching kitten for it though because the news is depressing. I’d rather have the depressing news than no news though. So +1 for posting.

Now lets look at the cliff notes provided bu KaniKani.

kanikani.2430:

Cliff notes:
-So no new maps in the near future
-1 week cycles for matches will continue
-Culling is being worked on
-We have talked about population issues but don’t design for it
-Paid transfers at some point in the future, but transfers are not that big of an issue
-Progression/rewards in Feb patch
-Live scoring no time soon (via website)
-Nothing major till feb patch.
-No UI changes (raid tools etc.)
-No changes to commander system

Did I miss anything?

So basically nothing until Feb, even then the only interesting thing I see is that there will be some sense of progression/rewards added. The rest is disappointing to be honest. Better hope the rewards are worthwhile, else I can see a lot of the WvW people dropping GW2 for the next game out there.

Fractals…Lost Shore….Those seem like new content to me. Holiday events, that’s new content, just on a limited scale.

Krosslite.1950:

here is a statement made at the end of another thread by Mark Katzbach a Community Special Operations person for Anet:

Okay everybody, this argument is getting a bit circular now. What’s important is the following.

The forum population is not a majority, but does provide valuable feedback which we do take into account, along with feedback from other sources.
The silent majority is not all in-favor or against. Their opinions vary as much as any group of people’s opinions tend to.
They are players just like you. They voice their opinions by either playing or not playing.
Others not on the forums show their opinions on their personal blogs, fansites, twitter and facebook.
Everybody’s opinions are important and valuable.

I hope this clears some things up. I’m going to close this thread now. Please continue to provide us with feedback to help us to continue improving Guild Wars 2.

The point of this thread…

Your head…..

Seriously, they should be gathering data/comments/etc… from outside this forum. However, they should be using their official site(s) for communicating outward more often. It’s pretty sad when game changes are on Reddit before they pop up on the official site.

Also, maybe if the mods were not so heavy handed in the forums, more people would be willing to post in the official forums. Most of my guildmates refuse to post on Anet forums because of the moderators.

Also, the title should be changed from Ultimate Interceptor to Yak Slapper. Titles should be varied. Some should be serious, some funny, some just plain silly. Many should be somewhat easy to achieve, with some much more difficult to achieve.

See Rift – Many titles were pretty easy to get just by leveling. Some required specific effort of a week. Some took way longer. While largely irrelevant to game play, they are fun to earn.

Also along the lines of communication: WvWvW shutdowns…how about a 10 minute IN GAME warning. 3 nights (NA time) this week, the servers were reset. Towers, keeps, etc were under siege, siege equipment lost, etc…pretty crappy.

I just finished a warrior leveling primarily in WvWvW. My tips to lowbies:

Stack toughness. Put all your traits in to toughness first. It doesn’t make a big difference, but enough of a one that you don’t feel squishy all the time.

Food and mechanic wrench Buffs – You can buy the Halloween ones still for very cheap.

Go for more of a support role for while. (I leveled as a banner buffer.)

Pretty much everything else the OP and others have said.

LOL….a bunch of angry Alt-F4’ers. It’s really simple, port to your spawn point, then log out.

PS – Thanks for the badgers! (more like thanks for the spike)

Chuo.4238:

And while you’re at it, mind communicating from places other than Reddit? Most people don’t use it. Try your own website, please, ArenaNet.

They do put some stuff in News and Announcements, but you are correct they spend too much time passing info along on Reddit and not via their own websites.

Porky.5021:

I’ll leave the big picture stuff to big picture people. Coverage, time zones, what pvp guilds are doing, etc…I don’t even know or care what the score is most of the time.

Last night’s fights with SBI were fantastic. North hills, south hills, north hills, south hills, over to bay back to hills….

Died dozens of times, had an awesome time.

A good time was being had by all. Even though I wasn’t on long, the time I was on was pretty damn fun.

Jomg.9061:

Ok, maybe i was wrong about that.

Still, i want to point out the fact that is not a fun mechanism and i don’t see it purpose.

What the point of forcing player to reset them ?

Whoa…someone admitted they were wrong on the internets!

The timer is two fold. There is a siege per map limit, so resetting unused siege helps keep maps from just becoming siege heavy. The other is that prevents keeps and towers from becoming impregnable.

As for the mechanic itself, it’s not bad. I do wish that siege had a timer on it though.

OP – As a general rule, if you pass through a keep, you refresh siege. Myself and a lot of others I know, when they go AFK, they do so in a tower and refresh on return. Typically, just jump on fire and move to the next one.

Love me some big furry Char!

http://ragepvp.guildlaunch.com

We’re a small WvWvW guild with members in multiple time zones. The EU side fields 5 to 10 in WvW and the NA side fields 10+ most evenings to WvW. We do some PvE and by some, I mean not really at all. However, if someone needs some dungeon runs for a weapon or skin, people will help. We’re all mostly older, some have kids, some have dogs, all have lives outside the game.

You can level in WvW no problem. It is slower than the PVE route, but a lot more fun imo…

Things that are awesome for lowbies in WvW:
1. Manning Siege – Arrow Carts and Ballistas for the easy kills
2. Running Supply to keep to build
3. If you have a group where they are all 80 and will carry you, a havoc/camp flipping squad is awesome XP/karma

Zid.4196:

best burst + guaranteed escape = problem

That’s not the problem, the problem is:
Stealth + Rendering Issues + best burst + guaranteed escape = problem

Thieves should have high burst and high escape, that is the archetype of the class. They are not supposed to near 100% invisible during combat though. The rendering/culling issues are what is causing most of the thief clkittene/whining.

Yes, people will whine about thieves no matter what. However, until the rendering/culling issue is fixed, we can’t really say if their burst damage is too high, just right, or not high enough.

kidbs.8920:

So you’ve backed them into a corner near their spawn. You’ve basically won already so just leave. It would be one thing if they were able to do this next to a tower, camp, or keep…

QFT….They are doing nothing wrong. If anything, I think the OP is being a poor sport, oh it’s JQ, screw’em keep them pinned in.

Good fights this week all. See you at reset!

BTW /dance frees you of this

Is this Guild Wars or Fashion Wars? Log in and kill some baddies in WvWvW.

It’s a known issue, generally only (un)seen in WvWvW. I think (and I could be wrong) that it was an issue in sPvP as well, but they fixed it. I’d call it a band-aid fix though as I don’t think Anet can fix it in the WvWvW environment.

The cap point changes helped, but going from full health to dead and spiked without seeing your attacker, still isn’t fun.

I deleted my previous post as I decided that flaming developers might not be the most constructive. I was pretty pissed off after watching 2 very good thieves hold a keep lord’s room long enough for their zerg to return. So this is “take two” with a more constructive approach.

The thief control point capture combined with the persistent culling bug is a game breaking mechanic. The band aid “fix” should be hot patched in. I call it a band aid as I know it’s not a real fix to the issue. But it is a directionally correct change that should be implemented as soon as it passes your testing process. Not withheld until the next content patch.

Culling/rendering issues have been present since beta, and only gotten worse as people exploit it. And yes I see more and more trying to use this exploit to hold supply camps, lords rooms, etc. The last attempt to fix it failed and we ended up with invisible players. Is there any update on the status of a proper fix?

SBI only has a queue on Friday, post reset. The EB map may have a queue from time to time, but longest I have ever sat in it is ~15 minutes. Boarder Lands are insta pops 99% of the time minus Friday reset.

Thobek.1730:

Sixpax.8360:

That’s standard fare for being a T1 server. Welcome to the world of band wagoners. Don’t worry, you’ll get used to it.

I would love to agree with you but the problem is we are lacking serious numbers of people that actually have played WvW before. I think they burnt themselves out last week. Now we have everyone lvling up alts. This was another gem I heard from some random

“Do weapons lvl up in here as well”
“NO, if you have a lvl 60 weapon it will be underpowered, what lvl are you”
“10”
“F.F.S”

actually no one said that last line but that’s what I was thinking when I glanced at map chat… I guess if it wasn’t for the bangwagoners we’d have no one on so at least they are a meat shield of sorts. 5

My new warrior just hit 10 in WvWvW. Plan to primarily level in WvWvW.

And to correctly answer the guys question, yes he can learn the skills for each weapon in WvW. I got my Hammer, GS, and bow mostly learned in WvW. If you are under 80, I think your weapons base damage scales to 80 regardless of it’s level. (Level 5 white vserus level 50 white might actually do the same damage.) The stats don’t scale as smoothly though. I might test this sometime though. As an altoholic, it gives me something useful to do. (Besides kill JQ and SoS this week.)

Guardian has a super high run speed up time with staff. Add in retreat and GS leap.

Jack Backslash.6287:

no I just bring up Blackgate coz they totally H8 SBI. to the point I would think they would jump at the chance of a 2v1 against them.
JQ is the weak link in T1, atm

LOL….JQ hates SBI more that BG.

If a JQ squad sees SBI and anyone else fighting, who does JQ kill first? SBI
Likewise, if SBI sees JQ and fighting anyone else, we kill JQ first.

While respect has grown between the two servers, there is definitely strong hate present.

slingblade.1437:

Thobek.1730:

I truly felt sorry for the commanders online having to deal with these people, it was like herding cats.

Well, we at SBI have a commander just for that! ;-)

And he is quite good at it too!

Kilerien.5190:

JQ typically defend quite well in my experience. I doubt you’ll see any meaningful SBI comeback this week.

Likely true, but I plan to be out there until I take off for a long weekend away.

Nayce.4972:

Been a great match so far… A lot of fun. I can see how this will go down now.

SoS wins it will be because of the event and PvE, and thanksgiving. If SoS loses then it will be because we don’t belong. So it is a lose/lose situation for SoS. The way I see it we are playing hard doing what we need to do to control the map points. I am just happy to be playing in T1. We are playing to win, but win or lose we have accomplished what we set out to do and get to T1

No, I think you guys have proved you belong in T1. I hope you enjoy the bandwagoners that will come with being in T1. Hope to see/kill you on the fields tonight and tomorrow.

DoctorOverlord.8620:

It’s incredibly depressing seeing people congratulating ArenaNet and asking for more events just like it. I hope ArenaNet learns from this and not make the same mistake of doing it all over again.

For those of us that that missed “the golden days of MMORPGs. That rare sensation of having a game designer’s genitals pressed against [our] cheek[s] while their hips gyrate and [we] sob quietly is not something [we]’ve experienced from any other online game in memory.” This event was fantastic at educating us about the history the MMORPG experience.

Ashlov.3819:

Maybe we can find a sponsor and do an “Excuse of the Week” segment on You Tube.

LOL….I like it.

SoS was strong all weekend, but really during the PvE event, SoS just freaking wafflestomped JQ and SBI. SoS had EB on lockdown, and most of the BLs on lock down.

Looking forward to more fun fights against SoS.

Relentless.6709:

zoobaby.7804:

Relentless.6709:

The thief isn’t hacking. He’s using infiltrators arrow to ‘teleport’ him into the keep. In the one picture posted, you can see he has his crossbow out ready to use the skill. In the thief forums, a thief actually just posted a video the other day showing various places you can use the skill to get access to. Yes, it is a problem and I’m sure Anet will address so don’t get all QQ about it and blame the thief for hacking. Direct all anger at Anet for the issue.

Exploiting…nice :| No matter how relentlessly you defend using this, it is an exploit. Take some screenies and write up a how to and submit to Anet.

Wrong. It’s not an exploit. An exploit is doings something unintended. If this were an issue, it would have been fixed. It hasn’t or wasn’t. In fact, it wasn’t even in their Nov. 15th patch. Honestly, it’s really not that big of a deal though it can be annoying. It is hit or miss where we can use it and is far less of a threat then the mesmer portal bouncing from place to place.

To quote you:
“Relentless.6709:
The thief isn’t hacking. He’s using infiltrators arrow to ‘teleport’ him into the keep. In the one picture posted, you can see he has his crossbow out ready to use the skill. In the thief forums, a thief actually just posted a video the other day showing various places you can use the skill to get access to. Yes, it is a problem and I’m sure Anet will address so don’t get all QQ about it and blame the thief for hacking. Direct all anger at Anet for the issue.”

Sounds like you think it is an issue as it is an intended effect of an ability. Basically that is the definition of a exploit. Exploits are not the same as hacks, but pretty exploiters are not much better than hackers.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/Fractals-of-the-Mists-Disconnection-Issues

Looks like a known issue. Please close/lock thread.

Relentless.6709:

The thief isn’t hacking. He’s using infiltrators arrow to ‘teleport’ him into the keep. In the one picture posted, you can see he has his crossbow out ready to use the skill. In the thief forums, a thief actually just posted a video the other day showing various places you can use the skill to get access to. Yes, it is a problem and I’m sure Anet will address so don’t get all QQ about it and blame the thief for hacking. Direct all anger at Anet for the issue.

Exploiting…nice :| No matter how relentlessly you defend using this, it is an exploit. Take some screenies and write up a how to and submit to Anet.

DISCONNECTED PLAYER UNABLE TO RETURN TO SAME FRACTAL AS PARTY.

Fix this, had 2 runs finish with 4 people as the 5th person was unable to re-join us. This is unacceptable.

I get more badgers from Camp Supervisors than I do from players. I’m guessing I have have ~4k kills and earned a lifetime amount of 800 badgers.

Warlord.9074:

All the players upset by this patch are the ones who turtle.

And the ones that farmed badgers from them….

Ishuria.6372:

Hi guys, I’m Iserah from WM on SBI.
Some people said like “SBI=WM” but it’s not true. It never be true.
Of course, “WM is SBI” this is true cause we are loyal to our home land.
But, “SBI is WM” is not correct. We are just one little part of SBI’s power and feel happy for that.

There are so many guilds and players who make every efforts for SBI whether WM stays in battle ground or not. We can’t stand alone if there’s no one who always watch your back and working hard somewhere out there at any time.

As you know, most of wm crews are not good at english, include commanders. Language barrier blocked us hard from our powerful allies in the begnning. But today, all of SBI commanders include wm, always trying to communicate and helping each other. It makes us well organized and strong.

So, Never underestimate our comrades. They are strong and respectable enough even exclude WM

Well said.

elderan.2638:

So your WM night crew isn’t on for the first part the match and you’re losing. They come back and you’re winning. Kinda funny to see people from other guilds on SBI talking smack, clearly you’re not the reason SBI is winning, WM is. Now if we could just get WM to transfer to JQ we would be unstoppable

There have been weekends prior where WM was on and SBI was losing over the weekend. Then turned it around during the week. This weeks match will mark the 3rd time that a comeback has happened. Yes the coverage provided by WM and their tactics contribute to this.

Speaking of coverage what I have noticed over the past 3 weeks: JQ’s coverage on the weekend seems stronger than SBI’s which is stronger than BG’s. SBI’s coverage on the weekdays seem stronger than JQ’s and BG’s.

There were no queues on BL maps for SBI multiple times Saturday and Sunday. Even had the out-manned buff for a few hours on Sunday. Nor were there queues last night in NA prime time, yet SBI had already started its weekday push. SBI was +90 to +125 PPT over JQ/BG during my time on last night in NA. The NA prime time crew were making inroads and left WM good maps with upgraded keeps.

Even with the coverage disparity, I am seeing a lot of new tactics being employed by smaller squads from all sides. This has made many of the smaller skirmishes more fun.

EDIT: The coverage issue, weekend versus weekday, is why I would like a 3 to 4 day battle match up, not a 7 day.

Steely Phil.3952:

I like downed. I might take issue with a few of the downed state powers, but overall it is a good mechanic.

It’s grown on me. I didn’t like it at first, but have gotten used to it. I’ve seen fights turn because one person, ONE, decided to start rezing downed and dead players in the middle of a fight. Since there is a lack of healing in this game, imagine a guardian being downed, then rezzed and popping off the full heal elite skill. That can and will turn the tide in some battles. (Yes as a front line guardian I have done this and seen this done to my team.)

KinkyWarrior.1879:

I doubt said Ascended Gear would be THAT much better than level 80 exotics. Well I hope so anyway.

If it is better at all STAT wise (aesthetics, I hope they add more variety), then yes it matters to a large group of players. Like size, stats matter.

As someone who can only game on a laptop (no home office to support a desktop), I’ve been using Clevo’s for 4 years now. They are generally less expensive than their name brand competitors. They are upgrade-able to an extent, so you can make them last over two years.

The current laptop I have is a 17" Clevo built by Mythlogic (nothing but good things to say about these guys, great customer service). After adding some bells and whistles, like a matte screen, it ended up being about $2500 in April 2011. Not done any upgrades since then and it rocks GW2 no issues.

Xyanide.8650:

not sure if lovely WM players recovered from hangover in GStar party or something like that ^ our borderlands now green again, and sbi pushing jq borderland hard.

The push started late Saturday afternoon/night, then dropped for some of Sunday morning (EU football matches and American football), then returned for Sunday evening. When I logged off, ~10pm PST, we were 100+ PPT over JQ and BG. I don’t know if WM was out in force last night or not, but I didn’t see them prior to logging. (If you get the chance, tag along with them and learn, they’ve got some freaking awesome commanders.)

If you bothered to actually read what was said in those threads, it was never proposed. The only suggested alliance was to punish orb hacking cheats. And even if such an alliance were to have happened, the guy who floated the idea, likely wouldn’t have kept to it as there are certain players/guilds on opposing server that are kill on sight from long standing/multi-game rivalries.

Also suggesting 2V1 is laughable. JQ was bossing the BL’s for long periods over the weekend. There were multiple times where JQ had pushed SBI and BG off a BL map. SBI and BG were both within a thousand points of each other until late Saturday night when SBI finally got their kitten together and started playing smart. (Choo Choo band wagoners and unknown random commanders were doing stupid crap and not coordinating very well. Really hurt SBI Friday night and into Saturday afternoon.)

Anyone got a score update? Never got a chance to log in this morning to look at it.

It really depends on your play style. If you like to manage stuff, Engineer. If you like to be in your face melee, Guardian. If you like to stand back, Water Elementalist.

From personal experience and guildies:
Engineer feels like the best overall support class, very versatile. (I hate playing it though.)
Guardian can offer a full heal to people with elite skill. This alone can turn a battle. A well played Guardian is a forced to be reckoned with. (One of my favorite professions)
Elementalist – Feels too squishy. Water attunement heals are helpful, but not sure they are as powerful as a Guardian.

Blade.9317:

Whoa! There are some holes in your euro coverage. Even though I know it is temporary seeing all the borderlands red brings a smile to my face. I wish I wasn’t at work.

SBI has always had holes in EU coverage. We’ve had guilds actively try to cover better, like Oceanic guys/gals staying on late and NA EST guys/gals trying to get in early.

gaspara.4079:

I believe part of your problem is Badges are awarded to the killing blow unless a certain damage threshold is achieved by a single person. So normally the people doing the executions get the badges and healers and tanks get none.

I get a lot more badges on my glass cannon thief than my control warrior for this reason.

Pretty much this. Need to farm badges, roll a thief or mesmer. I get more on my thief.

Time to let it go. As WillyWho pointed out, SBI does better in real PvP than in forum PvP.

Syphen.1980:

I don’t necesarrily think JQ is shooting for second I think it is mostly a coverage issue now and seems like people quit playing or gave up. Last week we couldn’t hold the lead in PPT during the daytime of the week and today it seems like the other servers just aren’t even there. So either some massive euro guilds transfered in and I don’t know about it or something is up with the other two servers logging in and giving it a shot.

Likely the other servers giving up a bit. But I wouldn’t count them out. I expect them both to start pushing.

As for the whole 2V1, BG BL on both Saturday and Sunday morning (8 to 10 pst), it felt like BG and JQ were 2V1’ing SBI. In fact a couple times, they pushed SBI off the map completely. It sucked, but slowly SBI clawed back in to BL. 2V1 happens, it sucks when it happens to your realm.

A simple strat to break up 2V1’s: Start friction between them. Take 5 people and hit supply camps between the two and kill doylaks. Eventually a zerg will come find you. Start over and do the same thing. It eases pressure on your server mates that are trying to take over other camps/towers near your spawn point. The best is when you get the a zerg from each realm to clash.