Guild Wars 2

Crinn.7864:

Is it just me, or is that video more of a compilation of necros getting tunneled.

There’s pretty much everyone getting tunneld, not just necros

Hi guys, I am Argi from Vermillion.

We are sad that we can’t play gw2 competitively for now and just want to share our journey with you guys.

I hope you will enjoy this short compilation of scrim footage from pre-HoT go4s to Pro League WTS.

https://youtu.be/zvUvMC_CJp4

Hello,

I want to craft the Ornate armor so I would need a generous invite to a upgraded guild

Any offer is appreciated

Best Regards

Coronit.9432:

StickerHappy.8052:

kdaddy.5431:

XSamX.7182:

Sam here. Hello everyone.

To clarify the situation I will just poke in my 2 cents. Trashtalk me as you want, I really don’t care. I just post this for everyone who wants to know exactly what happened.

I am not someone who plays unfair. I don’t wanted to get an advantage out of this. We got our 4th-5th place set if we would have played normally, and even if we would have had beaten TCG, we would have just get 3rd place, so not really much more money or anything.

So, why did I do this then? Vermillion got DDOS’ed (from guys, who are in proleague, because they know the rules exactly), everyone, even the guys that don’t play PvP and stuff know EXACTLY what happened in the game TCG vs. VM. Since ESL and Arenanet both didn’t give Vermillion a fair chance to rematch, I decided to give them atleast a chance, to beat 55hp and beat TCG and get their Spot which they deserved into the finals. Since they beaten TCG with 200 Points lead, I thought for myself, that this is unfair as hell, but no one helped them.

I stated it a lot and everyone knows that I was in my finals exam for my apprenticeship. That’s why I didn’t got much time to spend on Training for GW2. (You can see that in the first weeks, were we played with Kanscout over me, even though Mesmer was better obviously.) But even if I would have had time, I would not be as good of a mesmer as Frostball.

I loved this game, but I never loved the Proleague, because it’s just unfair over and over and over again. Car Crashed got trashtalked by every Proleague Team, no one did something against it. I said something about Helseth, and gets instantly messages from ESL guys.
TCG matchfixed their match against Orng, which would get you banned immediatiely in other games and Rom even admited it, ON STREAM. Nothing happened.
TCG played with Rom and Denshee against Orange Logo, which is not allowed, it’s stated in the official rules in ESL. But ESL is changing this rules mid season, for TCG.
Someone ddos’ed Vermillion, no rematch, no afk, no 4 v 4, no changing rules, NOTHING HAPPENED.

Do you call this fair? If so, don’t read more of this text.

Frostball got DDOS protection and everything, and they still insisted on their rule, that everyone needs to work their own protection. So they literally stated, that unfair behaviour is getting rewarded, and that DDOS is allowed or what?

And this was kittening me off so hard, that I decided to do that. I know it was wrong, and if the DDOS didn’t happen, I would have not gone for this stupid behaviour. I did this by myself, together with Frostball. My team did not know what Frostball and me planned, but they got banned out of it. But yeah, what ever, Fair play is the best play, right?

I love this game, it’s the one I played from beta, and enjoyed 3 and a half year now. Even though the balance was a problem from the start, even though I get trashtalked a lot (when I joined Car Crash, and I did NOTHING, everyone hated Posi and Zapdos, and so hated me, because of my Guild Tag, getting guys who tell me to DDOS me and stuff.)

But yeah. The game is now dead to me. Not because of Guild Wars 2. It’s still a great game, but because of Proleague.

I am sad that everything worked out like this, because the whole Proleague is not watchable. Of course I did something wrong, I am not proud of it or anything and I would not say ever, do the same. I will take the consequences as an adult as usal. If the DDOS would have not happened, I would have not done this 100%. But if I could continuum split back, I would probably do the same again, because i think it was the right thing to do for Vermillion.

And yeah, someone talked on Whisper Chat. It was not me, but I don’t want to blame anything, on anyone. So I don’t need to say the name.

Peace out, hopefully I see you in a year or in other games and I wish good luck for Arenanet. That they will do more good stuff for this game. But they should let go of the Esport. It’s just not ment to be.

P.S.: Sry for my bad english.

Best regards,

Sam

Im completely fine with you posting this and i appreciate you giving insight on your feelings towards it.

Though it goes back to everything ive ever said about Pro Leagues and the people in it.

You guys are kids, you are talking about fair and the rules. Anyone whos played a real sport competitively knows the ref doesnt always make the right calls and most of the time the sponsor tries to do it better the next time instead of back tracking.

You brought up money, so lets just put this back into perspective. You guys get paid to play a game. You dont give your bodys to the game. You give time/mind and you can easily move on. Also you guys get to pick how much time you put into it.

I watched some of the Pro League today and you heard the Vermillion player crying and you had other Pro League player commenting what did you expect?

How about for people getting payed to play the game to not be babies. Anet didnt help with there poor job of establishing rules/roster/ trades etc etc.

So i guess overall i agree, Anet really needs to think about this Esport thing because its a bit hard to look at.

Wanna emphasize that a lot of the gw2 pvp population are kids.. too much drama.

What does Drama have to do with kids? I love drama, it spices things up.
The ability to act like an adult if necessary isn´t limited to adults. Adults themselves are incapable to behave reasonable in a lot of cases, too.
At the same time I think being childish once in a while or deep inside you lets you actually enjoy games like that. Being childish all the time and in wrong moments is something different.

To the topic. I don´t enjoy watching proleague since the ddos on frostball. All the kitten that happened afterwards moved it further away from being interesting.

Vermillion is far better currently then TCG imo (don´t kow how the scrims went, so many secrets :P – Helseth claimed that they won most scrims last season, but weren´t able to show that when it mattered), so TCG being on second place now isn´t anywhere ok for (and don´t understand me wrong, I have nothing explicitly against TCG or ANY other proleague team. All my interest goes into having a entertaining proleague I actually enjoy watching (and there were some great matches at the beginning of this season). vM vs TCG debacle, oRNG – TCG debacle, CC – Frostball debacle. What we end with is exactly one team I like to watch right now and that is 55.

We won 99% of the scrims and dominated hardcore in scrims

https://gyazo.com/7e9ee9066ec64f4774d6ff69d535c9d1 They’re coming

Credits to Prince Vingador

pls keep pve related stuff out of here this is only pvp related

Yeah, really sad how a patch makes the game worse every time

it was the only utility that made engi worth using in a team

like what the hell

jessiestiles.9437:

But they are basically condoning ddos if they don’t replay. It’s saying if you want to win do it to the other team before they do it to you. They can’t ajudicate it and they won’t replay the match. It’s wrong. The only solution is to replay.

Yeah, basicly saying Ddos is allowed, which is what noone really wants I think?

kdaddy.5431:

Faux Play.6104:

Injury is a poor analogy for this. It is more like someone from the stands coming into the field of play, tackling the player and not letting them play while the game goes on with no stoppage. I’m not sure any professional would want to compete in that type of environment.

kdaddy.5431:

suffish.4150:

With what happened in the vermillion vs. TCG match last night, I felt that I absolutely had to post in a thread like this because I am just unable to get over how much of a bad decision it was to just let that match carry on with the constant disconnects that vm had. If the result of that match stands then season 2 of the pro league is absolutely ruined for me, because that was the absolute most important series of the EU pro league when It comes to finals qualification and it was decided by a dc. Absolutely terrible. I really hope that the match is replayed at a later date. if they won’t let it happen with a different meta, then there is still next week to play it, have 6 games that week, I really don’t care. It will be a huge mistake for that match not to be replayed. If TCG win it as a 5v5 that is fine, but just don’t let a dc decide the most important game of the entire EU pro league.

Sorry if that sounded like me raging, but I needed to post something like that just to get rid of all the frustration I feel about that match. As for the OP, I think that having a 6th player in the match as a spectator would really help because it would limit the impact of a disconnect and allow matches to be fair which can only be a positive thing. If that is not allowed then I think that there should just be a reset of the game no matter when in the game it happens (maybe unless one team has more than a 200 point lead or something) and then if another dc happens then I think that the remainder of the series should be played on another week (keep it at 1-0 or 1-1 if those games were fine). It just stops me from enjoying the pro league if games are decided by disconnects so I hope the rules are changed.

A few things,

What professional sport eve allows for replayed matches?

Vermillion had a chance to grab a sub to jump in but they didnt have one available so what if this happened again in the next match?

As anyone who has ever played a sport said, you take it one game at a time. Injuries (dcs) happen and you live threw it and move on. No one owes anyone a rematch and no one should have a player watching in spectate mode.

If they can create a sit room where the player sees nothing and then ok im with you on a sub. Otherwise like any team in any sport trying to make the playoffs, you take it on the chin.

No its not

A person coming from the stands stops play for 5-15 min and the players go on as if nothing happened. The only thing that might change is the momentum and in the moment adrenaline.

I injury is a unexpected event which can dramatically change a person game/career.

This is esports so its a bunch of people sitting on computer and they will come back the next week. Losing a internet connection is the same as a player having a injury. Depending on how long the dc is, the amount of time missed, the teams ability to deal with the time loss of that player.

Its the exact same thing, there is so much that can be said. You got people crying here because of trash talking. Please stop that, if you do anything competitively you are gonna talk smack vs the person you are playing.

You got people talking rematch, you play when you are suppose to play. Apex/ zero counter play last year couldnt come up with 5 players so they had to forfeit. Vermillion couldnt get 5 players who could show up and people are asking for a rematch. WHAT?

I know this is a new generation of everything has to be fair and equal and we should all play nice with one another which is great for in game play.

This is supposed to be the PRO LEAGUES. These are suppose to be the best players on the best teams. Playing on the days they are scheduled, real talk. I was in a summer sponsored bball game. Between 32 teams, double elimination and in the first match the team we were suppose to play bus broke down and couldnt make the first match.

Guess what we didnt wait for them, please if we are gonna call this PRO LEAGUES can pretend that the word PRO stands for PROFESSIONAL?

We had 5 players, but one of us got ddos’d right after the 2minute mark, so whoever did it knows the ESL rules, get your facts straight before you say something.

Also if you rewatch vods there is a pattern of the dc’s, really easy to figure out

pls bring it back or riot

Our team member Frosty was the target of DDoS attack during a crucial ESL Pro League match today. If we had won our match-up against TCG, we would have secured our spot in the LAN finals with Rank 55 Dragons. As TCG won this match-up by a lot of points, even if we were to win both our matches against R55 in Week 7, TCG will most likely win the 3-way tie due to points.

Game 1: https://www.twitch.tv/guildwars2/v/59951775 03:24.33
Game 2: https://www.twitch.tv/guildwars2/v/59951775 04:01.00

Frosty’s PoV from Game 2: https://youtu.be/5YLv2hEMf4E?t=5m50s

This is obviously a DDoS attack. Prior to the DDoS attacks, in both games, we were leading in points and had clear map control. You can also see that the lag is completely gone after the match.

I understand that it is the responsibility of players to safeguard against DDoS attacks and we have taken precautions like using Skype proxies, in-game VPN and resetting our IP addresses.

As Frosty disconnected after the two-minute mark, a rematch was not granted. ESL administrators decided that there a rematch was not possible.

We would like to encourage everyone to support us in changing ESL’s decision of not granting us a rematch and get a fair game for both teams.

Best Regards
Argi

1+ this is a feature that’s long overdue and would improve the game by so much more

full support

i can’t believe this thread baited so many people FailFish

so many ppl with l2p issues here

I’m here to prove you all wrong

Here are 2 Clips of how amazing warrior is

I think that in-game voice chat option would help to improve ranked experience, there are some comms that are just vital and only good if people react fast

Also it would give the game a more “serious” feeling

Also there should be options like blocking someone who’s abusing the voice comm and options where you can disable it completly, which should be visible to other people so they don’t get confused

In my opinion, MMR/Glicko rating should be completly visible to each player

This would help alot of people to see where they stand and it would also explain a few things, like why am I getting matched with this and that etc

It would also create a more competitive environment(Once you fix seasons and make divisions mmr bound)

Just my thoughts I had

Best Regards

1hour 30min now

http://imgur.com/QuDO7m5

cant play the game anymore

queue wars 2

queue still ongoing

Having Chrnomancer reset elites is too powerful imo, either make it not reset elites or make Portal a elite

1+

+1 fix it pls 1151156161

If your enemy has more than 5seconds of stealth Lock-on will reveal him but he will still have Stealth

reveal is supose to reveal you, its not intended

Reveal bug on sindrener

Self explanatory, if you attack someone ( as engi with lock-on) in refuge, he will keep the stealth but have the reveal at the same time

maybe you have higher MMR than collero which people thoughd to be impossible

Is there any ETA on the reapperance of the Aviator Glasses and other skins like the Wizard hat, bunny ears etc?

A comment from a game master/dev would be appreciated

Shaogin.2679:

Israel.7056:

Shaogin.2679:

No thanks. Solo Queue was just a glorified hotjoin. This is a team game. If you can’t make the effort to form a team for whatever reason, you should be at a disadvantage against those that did put in the work and effort to get a team together.

What you should instead petition for is 1v1, 2v2, or 3v3 arenas if you’re looking to show off your individual skill. 5v5 matches are not the place for that.

1.) solo queue was a team game just like team queue was. The teams were just randomly formed in solo queue.

2.) it doesn’t follow that because the game is designed as a team contest that premade teams should be given an unfair advantage against randomly formed ones. It’s possible to match random teams against other random teams and premade teams against other premade teams.

3.) you seem to categorize a 2s or 3s arena team as “not a team.” Why?

1) Hotjoin is also a team game. But much like Solo Queue, it amounted to a bunch of random people running around doing their own thing.

2) This system makes an attempt to match teams against other teams. The problem here is the lack of population in sPvP. Splitting the queues would cause much higher queue times for the pre-made teams, made evident by the fact that solo players are already being matched against them because there is no other team in the queue for them to play against. Causing all of this just because solo players don’t like losing to a pre-made team and can’t be bothered to make their own team is just silly and anet isn’t going to take that route.

3) I never stated 2v2 or 3v3 arenas are not team games. Solo Queue players would however be more fitting there due to a single player having a much larger impact on the outcome of the game, thus granting a player a better chance at showing off their individual skills. Not to mention players have been asking for this since launch. I personally could care less.

You seem to not understand that no1 wants to queue with the current system, bring back old system and there will be alot more players

They could also try this for a week to see how many people actually prefer SoloQ over Ranked and make their decision based on that

Shaogin.2679:

Logic is not flawed simply because you say it is. Ranked exists for obvious reasons, Unranked is a place for teams to practice. If they only allowed 5-man teams in these queues, the wait time would be ridiculous because players don’t feel like getting a team together and would rather just solo queue. So by allowing people to solo queue in Unranked and Ranked matches alongside the teams, it gives the teams at least SOMEONE to fight against in the event no other team is available, while also creating the added benefit of allowing solo players to join these matches without going through the trouble of finding a team.

This was designed to be mutually beneficial. Being matched against a team as a solo player is due to the fact that the number of players that can’t be bothered to form a team to queue with outnumber the teams that are queuing. There is also the fact that when queuing solo I have come across many pre-made teams, many of which we won the match against. Having a pre-made team of 5 players is not an automatic win.

Finally, like I mentioned earlier, 5v5 matches are not the place to prove your worth as a solo player. It is designed to be a team effort requiring coordination and communication within the group. What you are looking for are smaller arenas designed for 1v1, 2v2, and 3v3 battles. It is unfortunate that Anet does not provide this for the large number of players interested in such a set-up, but that is not a reason to bring back solo queue.

Out of your source I can already guess you have average MMR, which ranked is totally fine for

If you’re in the higher brackets you always get matched with really bad people vs full decent premades everytime, which just proves nothing

In the old system you had insta qpops in SoloQ and in TeamQ with full premade almost always against equally skilled teams

Shaogin.2679:

No thanks. Solo Queue was just a glorified hotjoin. This is a team game. If you can’t make the effort to form a team for whatever reason, you should be at a disadvantage against those that did put in the work and effort to get a team together.

What you should instead petition for is 1v1, 2v2, or 3v3 arenas if you’re looking to show off your individual skill. 5v5 matches are not the place for that.

Your logic is flawed because all you’re saying is that some premades should feel good about themself cuz they’re farming 5 kittens with 0 communication between them

While I agree that this is a teamgame, putting premades vs full soloq won’t benefit anyone, it wont make the TeamQ’ers better and it will just destroy the experience for the soloq’ers

I’m just sick of fighting the same premade over and over again

It’s literally killing the game, just bring back Solo ranked

https://www.change.org/p/someone-who-s-sick-of-it-seperate-ranked-to-soloq-and-teamq?

^ Link to Petition ^

Xyonon.3987:

Argilla.8340:

Just got fixed with last patch, thanks

No it didn’t. SD still interrupts your chain.

Just tested it and you are right, SD breaks skill queing again

Just got fixed with last patch, thanks

Skill queuing has been broken on engineer since the last patch and it’s been awkard to play engi since then

Is this intentional?

did you try restarting your pc

I already said that this patch would kill sPvP before it came out and you were the one awaiting it like some kittening miracle would’ve happend

I call’d it anet, buffing some classes by a ton and destroying a few did nothing but kill your game further, so good job at making bad people somehow decent (ele, mes etc)

This game is even emptier now than it used to be pre patch, no idea how you guys manage to kitten up everything

And WTS is also just around the corner and changing all of this before it.. just what are you thinking

Exciton.8942:

Because people find game stagnant and they will leave.
They need something brand new to bring back players even if that means they have to rebuild balance from scratch.
Also, devs may like a chance to overhaul everything so that they can implement some of their more crazy ideas.
It’s more fun in the end for both players and devs.

It’s not fun if the meta took 2 years to estabilish in the ESL scene

All this is doing is destroying esports and make anet looks like bunch of idiots

Honestly, it took 2 years to rebalance this game and all youre doing is destroying all the balance you had over this time

Just think logicly for a second, this won’t benefit anyone

may the force of the dragon be with you

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Hello,

I main engi but can also play guardian and ele if needed

Most people know me as Argineer/Aimee/Bomber Typhoon

Played in various teams over the year and participated in alot of ESL’s

Looking for a team to participate in Tol3 with

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/Freeze-after-I-open-Score-Board-PvP

It started for me roughtly 2 weeks ago after a small patch

bump 15characters

this needs more recognition