Guild Wars 2

Anvil Pants.3426:

PAXA & Envy

mewl mewl mewl swats the dummy MEWL MEWL

“5 man”… “8 man”… “two different borderlands”… mewl mewl

*mewl*—insert litany of lamely-crafted lies—*mewl*

Look guy, quit bein so kitten. You’re just mad at the embarassment of 4-5 of us constantly killing 15-20 of u, so now you got ur entire zerg to start chaining aoe stun enviro weapons. It’s pathetic, and u only act this way because u have no defense to how sad it is. So just stop whining and move on.

Also, considering how few people we have, we actually help out our server a lot, we don’t wane on some 5 man pride, we just do it for fun, it’s a game, quit overreacting.

Thrumdi.9216:

A Game of Zergs.

That is what WvW has become.

Once a server reaches a certain population, and a certain number of organized guilds, everyone goes zerg.

It’s been outlined in countless other threads why, and for those reasons, running one or two big zergs most of the time is the most efficient way to win a map.

All the small guilds we started playing WvW with on Tarnished Coast are pretty much gone. Even the original medium-sized guilds who started with us are beginning to see attrition. Because a zerg is what you need to get things done on a map, they draw in the players.

I hope it can be turned around soon, but I fear it can’t, as the changes would be fairly drastic. But, GW2 probably has about a year’s window until The Elder Scrolls Online launches. Can they get it done in that time?

I dunno…. ESO’s closed beta is out. Think GW2 has even less time than that to get WvW figured out. Add proper progression, fix zerg based mechanics like forever combat rez invincibility for noobs, etc, etc.

Phantasmal.5631:

StormWolf.7645:

Name: Envy [Envy]
Raid Size: 2-10
Specialty: Impossible odds.
Server: Last known of FC, not sure where now.
Reason: Back when DR, Kaineng and FC were all in T8 of NA they were a Guild of around 10 or so iirc…When DR Zergs entered Kaineng BL everyone prepared to beat some faces in. When 5 Envy entered Kaineng BL, we called for reinforcements and prepared backup in case our Zerg was wiped. While admittedly they could not wipe a truly skilled Zerg…these people were some of the most individually skilled players I have ever seen. Their leaders were from everything we know un-defeated in 1v1s. They were considered more of a threat than a Server outnumbering us 5-10 to 1.

I second this guild. ENVY is better than any of the guilds saying their the best. You haven’t met the best until you’ve met ENVY. They are INSANE. No one even comes close.

Thanks to you both truth be told, we’ve considered going to EB for a week to go against you guys again, lol. The ferg/kain/dev was truly epic fun.

Boulderbolg.3460:

I think the free server transfers will go away when they finally get Guesting in for PvE. Just my guess!

Before or after the game goes to complete death? I know ur on a massive server, so u don’t see it probably, but this game is dying… And this is a big reason for it.

Churros.7196:

Vigrith.8136:

While I agree that server transfers have ruined certain communities others benefit from it. I am sure that some of the servers that got transfers and are now thriving because of it are not too upset about free transfers. The way I look at it is that our bracket system is somewhat like a sports playoff that never ends. If every sports team could have their same roster indefinitely the playoff would become totally stagnant. The server transfers are a bit like a draft and retirement in how they effect the teams. In sports there is always an influx of new talent and the old guard is slowly fading out. For individual servers the transfers are either terrible or great and it is very polarizing. For the overall community it keeps movement in the brackets and the opportunity for suffering servers to start to succeed. The transfers create a more natural death and rebirth kind of cycle.

Even sports have a transfer period. You cannot change rosters during the season. Same with the server transfers. If it is so easy to transfer you can just hop to the 1st ranked server, its going to be very boring. Notice how the losing servers don’t get mass influx of players.

And a money limit to enforce balance… lol

This game has gotten on a bit, it’s no where close to the early stages anymore. Server hopping still being free, I think most would agree, is long past it’s closing time.

After the holidays, putting out a 1 week warning (or however long) that server transfers are closing would help out a lot. This would give everyone time to pick their fav server, etc. Then finally close em, for good, balanced WvW.

This part people are probably gonna qq about…. but once server hopping is closed. All points should be cleared, and put the server match ups in order of population. (this due to the points system being currently jacked up due to transfers)

Server hopping has gotten so common, and completely out hand, it’s truly ruining this game.
*Especially for the lower tiers with small populations…

If you’re reading this thread, I don’t care if anyone agrees/disagrees with my opinion on how to go about it or not, that’s not really the subject anyhow.
But putting a /yes or a /no purely speaking in terms of, yes turn em off, or no keep em on, that would be awesome.

Dhampyr.2104:

Balidore.2790:

Hurry up and get bumped Kaineg

We’re working on it! :-)

Might not be too soon tho, looks like T7 is pretty balanced and we have some gap closing to do. We’ll see tho.

Also, saw the posts on Envy leaving FC – you guys find a new home yet?

Nope, lol

Hurry up and get bumped Kaineg

@ scooby

are you drunk? at no point in time did anything have to do with “challenge,” it has to do with “boring.”

I’m not sure who you are, but if you think we run from a challenge, you probably know nothing about us.

boring is boring. quit reading in to it more than it is.

Darek.1836:

Apparently [Np] and [Envy] left FC today.

Long story short. Tier 8 was boring for a very long time. It was either completely dead with nothing to do, or such massive unfightable zergs, there was also nothing much to do.
We enjoyed ferg, and the people there, truly. In the end though, a boring tier is still boring.

A number of our members were even going inactive due to this endless circle. We left to find active WvW

Ralloff.7359:

So to anyone that knows, did NoQQ not transfer to T7? I thought they were gonna. Just curious.

Also to Envy. I respect you. But I also hate you all and hope each of you die in a fire.

“Killing Envy mesmers is a short and hassle free experience!” ~ No one ever

Lmao, totally mutual

NoQQ, I’ve seen em (or heard) on a few different servers. Looks like they’re spread out checking out all the tiers looking for a new home, but not sure, Stylii hasn’t been on yet to my knowledge. Interested to see where them and LARP end up.

Calos.1350:

Balidore.2790:

Yeah, Devona is bad, but they’ll hit tier 5 before they meet their numbers.. Have to say though… the new server we’re stuck with is straight up boring, lol. “Almost” missing Devona at this point.

Not that bad, most of fergs and kain said we would get smashed in tier 7 right? Don’t miss us too much, we aint coming back.

From how easy ur roflstomping, looks like ur the ones missin us lol

Funny… my thief can remove conds all day, and teleport from aoe’s like I’m gettin paid for it.
Try again, I’ll do this game all day, thief is stupid OP.

Yeah, Devona is bad, but they’ll hit tier 5 before they meet their numbers.. Have to say though… the new server we’re stuck with is straight up boring, lol. “Almost” missing Devona at this point.

I was honestly worried it would be a boring roflstomp. Good to see Kaineg out in full force again Have yet to see too many ET though. Good fights.

Alsonia.4753:

ITT – Bottom Tier Server kitten talking.

I can stop playing GW2 now.

Yeah, allot of us have tried the higher tiers buddy. We’re all well aware they’re nothing but massive amounts of scrubs in a big zerg ball, slamming in to another zerg ball, using the same tactics everyone in the game already knows about.

Oozo.7856:

Balidore.2790:

Green gear, blue gems. For both my ranger and ele, lol. Even my thief is in half yellows. So yeah, that’s what I mean by alts.

Oh, you are the ranger? Yeah, bad combination of being gear squishy and having little escapability. A bit harder than the mesmer, I imagine. :P

I’ve seen some pretty decent melee ranger builds though.

Yeah, shortbow and axe would be the wise decision imo, but the melee ranger is so much more fun lol

I have an 80 thief, 80 mesmer, 80 d/d ele, and an 80 ranger.

Ranger is trash in comparisson, no survive at all, no teleports, reliable stealth, mass invul, nothin.

Mesmer is a bit different than saying ‘OP.’ It’s more that 90% of people don’t know how to fight you, and you roflstomp em, BUT when you run in to a player that knows how to fight one, the mesmer is a little weak in comparison to the others.

D/D Ele is very good, but lacks the insanely OP combat stealthing the mesmer has a little of, and the thief has a ton of. The survive is so good though, it still works well. d/d eles have a couple main combos they all use too, makes em a bit predictable to any good player.

Thief… lmao. Not even making this up, when I play my thief, it’s not even a game of winning or losing, or a matter of ‘if’ I can win. It’s purely a game of how many people I can kill before they finally catch me. I spend most my time when I’m on my thief, standing in the middle of 20+ zergs, by myself, killing people in the back or sides people rn’t paying attention to. Then stealth finisher… just lol. For anyone who says it’s not insanely broken level of overpowered, just slap yourself in the face.

Oozo.7856:

Balidore.2790:

Oozo.7856:

Junkhaus.4301:

On behalf of myself and my guildies who were there, I thank NP and Envy for the 1v1 fights. We’d like to do some more before our server leaves this tier, there’s no people better than you guys to learn how to 1v1. Everyone on my end said they enjoyed the fights and are amazed at your skill. Again, thanks for taking time away from defending, you’ve shown us a lot of class tonight.

The Envy people are the best solo players I’ve run across in this lowest bracket. Part of that is pure skill but part of that is also running really strong professions with very good builds. I think they had three d/d elementalists, a thief, and a mesmer grouped up the other night.

Can’t blame them for that. It’s really the only way to handle the numbers you have to fight on a nightly basis. Those d/d elementalist are great for zergbusting. I watched one of their d/d elementalists consistently kite and down people in 1v4-8 situations.

Their ranger has balls. He must know he is going to be taking focus every single time when running with those professions since he has the least survivability and is also the easiest to stomp in downed state . :P

It’s kind of odd that the three best classes for survivability through escapability also have the best downed states for buying time while fighting in groups. While a class like the necro, which has horrible escability, also has the worst downed state. 0o

Hate to tell ya man… but you’ve only fought our alts, lol. We only have 1 main d/d ele in the guild. And no ranger mains.
We’ve only really played alts the past 2 weeks or so. We’ve been in this exact match up for ages now, gettin old :/ I actually haven’t been on my main in over 2 weeks now.

A good player is a good player whether on a main or alt. It’s not like classes in GW2 are that hard to learn and in some cases an alt of a certain profession is stronger than a main of another.

Unless they are not in full exotics or something? :P

Green gear, blue gems. For both my ranger and ele, lol. Even my thief is in half yellows. So yeah, that’s what I mean by alts.

Oozo.7856:

Junkhaus.4301:

On behalf of myself and my guildies who were there, I thank NP and Envy for the 1v1 fights. We’d like to do some more before our server leaves this tier, there’s no people better than you guys to learn how to 1v1. Everyone on my end said they enjoyed the fights and are amazed at your skill. Again, thanks for taking time away from defending, you’ve shown us a lot of class tonight.

The Envy people are the best solo players I’ve run across in this lowest bracket. Part of that is pure skill but part of that is also running really strong professions with very good builds. I think they had three d/d elementalists, a thief, and a mesmer grouped up the other night.

Can’t blame them for that. It’s really the only way to handle the numbers you have to fight on a nightly basis. Those d/d elementalist are great for zergbusting. I watched one of their d/d elementalists consistently kite and down people in 1v4-8 situations.

Their ranger has balls. He must know he is going to be taking focus every single time when running with those professions since he has the least survivability and is also the easiest to stomp in downed state . :P

It’s kind of odd that the three best classes for survivability through escapability also have the best downed states for buying time while fighting in groups. While a class like the necro, which has horrible escability, also has the worst downed state. 0o

Hate to tell ya man… but you’ve only fought our alts, lol. We only have 1 main d/d ele in the guild. And no ranger mains.
We’ve only really played alts the past 2 weeks or so. We’ve been in this exact match up for ages now, gettin old :/ I actually haven’t been on my main in over 2 weeks now.

KwayZee.5742:

SHAKA ZULU.3128:

Our tier must smell funny. No one stays anymore. I shower, I promise.

Heh its not about the smell =P

But Kaineg, Ferg, Eredeon Terrace, Henge of Denravi and Sorrow’s Furnace all seem to be pretty low pop servers. It really does become UNfun to either not have even numbers or to not have coverage on servers.

If ANET doesnt sell at least 200k copies on Christmas then they should really think about merging some of the low pop servers.

DR was so bad at one point that one of our members had to transfer servers to finish a legendary he wanted to make because we couldnt field enough at the same time to open the temples in ORR…

Yeah, honestly? They could prolly cut out the entire bottom tier, lol. I’ve literally never seen a que in Ferg since the days of Sanc/Omni. Months ago.

Etna.1634:

Drednyte.7601:

@Etna
Not sure who was talking to you about transfering and joining PRO, wasnt me. I’ve talked to 2 guild leaders on both Ferg/Kain and we discussed them transfering to DR and/or joining PRO…neither was you or your guild. So dunno who was talking to you and please refrain from stating a “guild” want’s you when you’re talking to someone from a guild. Short of Phiz, the guild leader, talking to you about it, everyone else is a one v one conversation, not a guild v one. Understand?

I understand and it makes me abit disappointed. I thought PRO ran a tight organisation, especially since you’re only 8-10, but I guess not.

Anyway with Devona moving up and a dead server moving down we just don’t see the fun in staying in this tier and therefor are moving to EBay. I’d like to especially thank Envy, The Moobs, Chris [NP], TRx, CnB, KAIN, WAR, iSpy, AD, FIST, SoCo, Dark, RED, WP, EDGE and of course PRO for making this tier to what it’s been for us. I know I’m forgetting alot of guilds and individuals, these are just the ones that first comes in mind, so thank you all for the fun times.

Have fun and good luck in the future!

LARP, NoQQ. Was epic fun You’re truly missed.

SniffyCube.6107:

Themanbat.3206:

Psychatog.8246:

Themanbat.3206:

SniffyCube.6107:

Kain guilds whining again because they tried and lost… now they’ll go on “vacation” for a week or two or pretend they’re not interested because they had a bad start… then later in the week they’ll post some SS of them taking out some kind of zerg and tell everyone how amazing they are.

I’ll be in zerguson’s crossing for the rest of the week farming badges off envy and np

later guys :/

Lol. That’s funny because I got my monthly kills 2 hours after reset off of Devonas in my borderlands…

grats i got mine in alittle over 40mins off the fergs in there borderland

Haha. I was there. Those xp trains couldn’t kill anything. I doubt it.

Aren’t you the envy mes with the commander running around with the other mesmers and thieves? Don’t know what you’re talking about we farmed you guys plenty… imo very overrated guild.

NP showed much more fight.

Don’t wvw regularly but I had to see for myself the “amazing awesome envy guild that pwns 5v1 of kwbh players…” well, we came, we saw, we found you… and then we both know what happened

Owning every open field fight for 3-4 hours was fun until what seemed like your whole server decided to come at us.

Honorable mentions to the few pro and their commander who had those trebs + camp locked down and the few sky with him.

Whatever you are on, you should share.

Stop the exploiting in to keeps. Don’t lie, I have screenshots. It’s both kaineg and devona doing it the past 2 days (and I’ve only been looking for it the past 2 days, frankly didn’t expect people to do it, till i caught devona by accident), I’ve seriously watched it 4 times now in 2 days.. Honestly? There couldn’t be anything more pathetic than exploiting against the smallest underdog server.
I’m starting to wonder if Devona would even be losing without it, regardless of their massive numbers over everyone.

I’m not trying to start some kinda kitten talk on the forums, but it needs to be said. What’s the point of winning if you’re not even doing it legitimately?

On a side note. I wanna give a shout out to GASM. Honestly, you guys have really stepped up your game.

3-4 weeks ago, you guys were the first group I ever beat 1v8. Now… You’re truly a force to be considered. I’m not sure what changed, but props guys. Focus fire, organization, everything, well done. Keep it up

Not to say other guilds aren’t great out there, but GASM really stepped it up a huge notch.

Drednyte.7601:

xcavars.5049:

LOL, dont flatter yourself. There is no alliance.

Below is the Ferg confirmation of an alliance =) Shame that it looks like Kaineng folks backdoored Ferg for points. Bad form there, least when DR allied with Ferg for a couple fo days, thats the week Ferg took 2nd btw, the majority of DR/Ferg folks honored the truce.

Chris.4527:

For Kain, the “united” thing is hilarious. You need to realize how you guys held SM.

Fergs were invading DR 24/7 all weekend long till Sunday, Saturday night is when our little “alliance” finally got screwed by SoS it seems. So we stopped invading DR, all of DR came to EB, you guys got wiped.

All you ended up doing was pissing off a lot of Ferguson with the bragging about how amazing you guys are doing, and invading us at the same time.

In summary without us flooding DR map, where are they going? Our respected maps and EB. Enjoy, I hope that “moral” boost lasts throughout the week. Next time, think before leaping for joy about how you guys are doing so amazing in first and figure out why you’re there to begin with instead of screwing with the only ones willing to help you.

If you ask me, from what Ive seen, the only reason Ferg isnt taking and holding 2nd place is because they’re focusing on DR. I believe they have the manpower and the skills to take Kaineng. They’ve already proved it once and that was before they got a couple of guild transfers.

That was purely assets, and had nothing to do with killing, at any point in time, and even then, had nothing to do with Dev assets (it was more of a temporary cease fire than any sort of alliance). On top of that… most didn’t go by it, and it lasted 2 days (by 2 days, I mean last weeks line up), lmao. On top top that even, we fought constantly in the end.

Long story short. What you’re talking about, has absolutely nothing to do with that, in any way shape or form. It was just a 3 way fight in dev bl, and Kain left due to being significantly outnumbered on that occasion.

You Dev guys r so delusional it’s amazing. We all constantly fight on 2 fronts. Get over yourselves.
No one is ‘teaming up’ on u, it’s called WvWvW for a reason.

But will PvDoor be sufficient?

SpaceLord.4590:

Nice alliance Kain and Ferg Well played on DR borderlands tonight.

You guys even in the same Teamspeak too lol

I love it keep bringing it, sharpens the skills. Back to the fight.

Na man, that’s just where the fight is lol.

To the gankin thing… It happens :/ we play alts all the time, I’ve actually spent half the week playing a ranger from lvl 1 to lvl 31 now in WvW.
Yeah, the laughin at our lowbies when we lose outnumbered is annoying at times, but I kinda find it flattering that they would consider beating a lowbie 1v3 a laughable achievement tbh lol.
Viohlent was fighting significantly outnumbered the other day, when they finally got him, they tombstoned him with an Alpha Golem. I thought it to be epic, lol. Totally jelly even

Ilesyt.7084:

Balidore.2790:

Ilesyt.7084:

Balidore.2790:

With d/d eles, people used to have to aim their charge attacks to do that insane dmg, then mix it with all the combo fields wherever they landed. Now they just auto go to the target, then combo in that spot. Makes a huge difference when you can let a noob do massive dmg and easy combo fields in a zerg.

Obviously you’ve never played ele.

Just because they fixed rtl doesn’t mean we’ve become so much stronger. in fact the nerf on Evasive arcana is bigger. We lose a lot more dps.

PS: We(d/d) only got 1 (and a half) combo fields, the half being the one with burning speed for a very small duration in a limited amount of space.

Also, an ele with auto-target off is stronger than one who has it one.

You’re obviously missing what I’m saying… Completely… lol. And yes, I know all that, I’ve played one plenty.

If you read, all I said, is that the changes made it so noobs can now play the class effectively.
I did not say… “anyone who plays one is the best they can be, and is amazing”

Again, no they can’t, they can’t just dish out combo’s and stuff because they don’t know, I have plenty of people in my guild who started playing ele but just can’t get it to work. The only reason you see more ‘skillfull" ele’s is because they’ve been playing it long enough to get it to work good enough at least.

Yeah, it just magically happens that a ton of people get good at it after a patch that makes it easier to play… lmao, I’m sure that’s it.

Mosharn.8357:

I love envy because they dont give a kitten how many ppl they fight XD. Oh and i was talking about the 1v1 at DE on KBL with a mesmer. Had him to 25% hp then 3 other mesmers came and gave me a whooping. The other 1v1 was with the awesome ele but i wasnt prepared for that lol. Had hammer and tank gear on without any of the hammer or tank traits. Actually had bow/rifle traits that time but then 2 ppl came and they didnt do much the ele pwnt me. She is bad kitten

At DE we were constantly fighting 30-35 Kain with 8 people. He prolly didn’t even have cds, or was even paying u much attention at all for that matter. You’re not gonna be given a 1v1 in that situation… lol.

If you ever want one, just ask someone in Envy, pretty much all of us will.

Ilesyt.7084:

Balidore.2790:

With d/d eles, people used to have to aim their charge attacks to do that insane dmg, then mix it with all the combo fields wherever they landed. Now they just auto go to the target, then combo in that spot. Makes a huge difference when you can let a noob do massive dmg and easy combo fields in a zerg.

Obviously you’ve never played ele.

Just because they fixed rtl doesn’t mean we’ve become so much stronger. in fact the nerf on Evasive arcana is bigger. We lose a lot more dps.

PS: We(d/d) only got 1 (and a half) combo fields, the half being the one with burning speed for a very small duration in a limited amount of space.

Also, an ele with auto-target off is stronger than one who has it one.

You’re obviously missing what I’m saying… Completely… lol. And yes, I know all that, I’ve played one plenty.

If you read, all I said, is that the changes made it so noobs can now play the class effectively.
I did not say… “anyone who plays one is the best they can be, and is amazing”

I dunno, but when you win 1v8. By the time it’s over, you get 2 bags if ur lucky.

I saw what happened actually…. It was early morning last night, and SoS came on in full force, 30+ easily. 2 of us in my guild were harassing em for fun, and there were no Fergs on, so not much else to do, lol.
Then while we were harassing…. 20+ Devona showed up and hit em from the other side while they were on a tower. The SoS zerg got wiped once, and never came back, to any map. Those 20+ Devona took everything undefended last night.

Braxxus.2904:

Balidore.2790:

Mesmer has no dmg at all anymore, pretty much just annoy people while others kill. Mainly playing a haste/portal bot. Yet people will still complain due to them lacking situational awareness, and can’t tell the difference between a mindless clone, and a moving, dodging player using skills. I honestly wish they made mesmers back to the way they were, and just made the clones look like zombies or something so people can tell easier.

?
Phatasm/Shatter hybrid still kittens face against players 1v1 right up there with thief/ele effectiveness. It still has insane survivability build in to the class as well being the only other class capable of exploiting the culling issues on-demand like thieves.

Portal bombs are still the nuclear weapon technology of GW2 in WvW.

I’ve never had an issue fighting that build. I was referring to the gs and sword. Oddly enough…. after I made that post, that morning they restored the gs dmg, lol. Sword is still hitting for half of what it used to though. It’s pretty much the same as Pistol Whip or Hundred Blades, just does about 6k in the end, rather than 20k, lol (assuming all attacks hit). And has a longer cooldown.

Ilesyt.7084:

naphack.9346:

Pikajew.8301:

I’m probably going to be making both anyway, but I’m going to start with an ele. Also, wasn’t there an ele nerf recently?

You mean this?

Profession Skills
Elementalist
Ride the Lightning: This skill should now track moving enemies more reliably.
Magnetic Grasp: This skill should now track moving enemies more reliably and end correctly when you reach your target.
Evasive Arcana: This trait no longer creates unintended blast finishers.
Ether Renewal: This skill’s cast time has been reduced from 4.75 to 3.5 seconds. There is no change to the total amount of healing.
Healing Rain: This skill’s tooltip now states the correct duration of 6 seconds.
Armor of Earth: This skill’s tooltip now states the correct duration of 6 seconds.
Churning Earth: This skill’s description no longer references “hold and release.”
Signets of Earth, Air, Fire, and Water: These skills should now have a cast animation while wielding a Fiery Greatsword.
Ring of Fire: This skill on Conjure Flame now lists itself as a Fire combo field.
Dragon’s Tooth: The blast finisher for this skill now triggers at the spell location rather than the character’s location.
Magnetic Wave: This skill’s missile-reflect portion now has an accompanying icon.
Phoenix: This skill’s tooltip now states the correct duration of 5 seconds of vigor that this skill applies.
Blasting Staff and Geomancer’s Alacrity: These traits now work together for the Eruption skill.
Mist Form: This skill now works with the Water Magic trait Cantrip Mastery.
Soothing Wave: This skill now properly applies regeneration to the elementalist when using Conjure Frost rather than only when the bow is picked up.
Healing Ripple: This skill’s scaling with healing power has been reduced by 50% in PvP only, as it had scaling that’s normally reserved for main healing skills. The maximum number of targets has also been reduced from infinite to 5.
Obsidian Focus: This Earth Magic trait now grants toughness when channeling the Stone Shards skill.
Ice Spike: This skill’s tooltip now states the correct amount of vulnerability when traited.
Conjure Frost Bow’s Deep Freeze: This skill now applies 1 second of chill per pulse, preventing extreme stacking of chill on a target.
Conjure Frost Bow’s Ice Storm: This skill now applies 5 seconds of bleeding per hit instead of confusion.
Tidal Wave: This skill’s responsiveness has been improved.
Tornado: Leaving this elite skill now removes the stability it grants in order to make it consistent with other elite transformation abilities.
Vapor Form: Fixed a bug that allowed this skill to contest a capture point.
Flame Axe: This weapon now grants the wielder power and condition damage.
Frost Bow: This weapon now grants the wielder increased condition duration and increased healing power.
Fiery Greatsword: This weapon now grants the wielder power and condition damage.
Magnetic Shield: This weapon now grants the wielder vitality and toughness.
Lightning Hammer: This weapon now grants the wielder increased precision and critical damage.

nerf much?
I only count 1 real nerf there, maybe 2. I markked the changes which actually did something beyond fixing tooltips.

Lot’s of them are actually bug fixes, and an improvement on the conjure weapons since they were so freaking weak.

The nerf is the Evasive arcana which will give us a lot less damage output (less might stacking) and healing ripple. On another note you could just tornado and out and still receive instability, since that was unintended they removed, but it still counts as a nerf.

Balidore.2790:

Eles ‘were’ skill based, and you only had to worry when you saw a good one. Now they made em easy to play, and kept their full faceroll effectiveness. So now anyone can do it. Which is why the insane dmg issue, those attacks used to be tough to pull off. Now you can do it all with a simple autotarget and a rotation.

Or maybe it’s because those ele’s have gotten better ? I don’t know what you’ve been watching but ele’s have had a constant train of nerfs, especially on the damage department. They USED to be easy and do plenty of damage where noobs could play them easily. Not anymore since a long time ago. And if you’re referring to the Conjure weapon buffs, those were never a viable option because they were just way too weak.

With d/d eles, people used to have to aim their charge attacks to do that insane dmg, then mix it with all the combo fields wherever they landed. Now they just auto go to the target, then combo in that spot. Makes a huge difference when you can let a noob do massive dmg and easy combo fields in a zerg.

Tiglie.5834:

Chaster Sharpshooter.3640:

Status update.

it’s 2:50am as of this post

There’s literally no one left in EB.

Go nuts.

And you’ll see what some of the post people were saying earlier is true about there’s no group of serious threat after we had gone to sleep.

The only thing you are a serious threat too is undefended keep doors. Go cry about lack of coverage somewhere else. Instead of playing at some godawful off hour on a tier 8 server, how about you save everyone the trouble and transfer somewhere where you face more opposition than a group of 5 arctic wolves during your prime time.

P.S. you lag my chat with your untranslated Daewoo owner’s manual copypasta.

hahahahaha. bro… u r absolutely hilarious

Thanks for all the good fights last night as well Kaineg. Whoever that thief commander was that kept throwing random siege at us while we were still fighting cracked us up btw That was epic, lol. Also.. I think that camp’s got more action than SM at this point. Golems and all.

Mosharn.8357:

lolololol Envy at stargrove lmfao. 1v1 terrible so all the other mesmers come in to help the person getting whooped. Btw why was most your group mesmers? and 1 Thief and ele?

Ummm, what r u talking about? and who r u?

At kain bl, we’ve been fighting 35-40 kain constantly with 8 people. What r u talking about 1v1? And fighting that many Kain constantly for hrs, y would we give any of em a 1v1? The only person who attempted a 1v1, was some salt warrior who we gave a 1v1 to, and then 2 rando fergs (not in Envy) came and ganked him, not much we can do about that, and Mag even stopped fighting once they added. So i don’t know where you’re imagination comes from.

2 guardians, 2 thieves, 1 ele, 3 mesmers btw…. lol

I was commanding the other day, we were attacking bay, while ninja’ing hills with a small team. The only reason for attacking bay was a feint to get hills, by them thinking the quaggs were at hills.
When the inner at hills got to 40%, my messages got suppressed…. lol. Only reason it ended up working in the end was due to a friend being able to relay, but even then, allot didn’t get off of bay till they noticed i was nearly all the way to hills.

As for the OP. I’d actually like it so you could only see an icon if you were in their squad, or within 1500 range of one. And people would have the option to join multiple squads if they so chose. If a commander is actually leading, there’s no reason you wouldn’t be able to find him/her from map chat and come find them to join squad in 1500 range.

Noticed something someone wrote about warriors up top…. I’ve extensively played every class in this game. Warriors can do insane dmg, but only with a couple attacks, and those attacks r easily countered/avoided.
Warriors are perfectly balanced, people just need to learn their enemy classes so you know what to do and when.

Anet’s done such a large amount of significant changes to classes. That rolling a char is a complete dice roll at this point. Unless you play a thief, like 70% of everyone else.

Thief got lower dmg (slightly), yet more stealths and blinds… Which is backwards of what needed to be done, lol.

Mesmer has no dmg at all anymore, pretty much just annoy people while others kill. Mainly playing a haste/portal bot. Yet people will still complain due to them lacking situational awareness, and can’t tell the difference between a mindless clone, and a moving, dodging player using skills. I honestly wish they made mesmers back to the way they were, and just made the clones look like zombies or something so people can tell easier.

Eles ‘were’ skill based, and you only had to worry when you saw a good one. Now they made em easy to play, and kept their full faceroll effectiveness. So now anyone can do it. Which is why the insane dmg issue, those attacks used to be tough to pull off. Now you can do it all with a simple autotarget and a rotation.

Rangers have always sucked, due to lacking any form of survivability in comparisson to any other class, and faaar less than their equal armor counterparts, yet all they did was up their dmg….

Engineer r the only class that can heavily stack bleeds and burns at the same time, yet no one ever says anything because most people don’t notice the conditions that kill them.

Necros needed more dmg at first, now that they ‘kept’ buffing it in all angles, now it’s just to the point of stupitity, all the health in the world, tons of cc and survive, yet tons of dmg and conds too.

Long story short… They keep doing significant changes, yet almost always in the wrong direction that the classes need, lol.

SpaceLord.4590:

Zizanzi,

I fully admit I love me some arrow carts and balistas

If they did not disappear so often (on their own without being attacked which is soooo annoying) I would have them every 5 feet in our BL lol

Does anyone know if that is by design or if it is a bug?

I imagine it’s intended, due to the possibility of people putting a cart every 5 feet threw-out their bl, lol.
I’m told that it will last forever, as long as someone goes back and uses it before the time expires. Supposed to reset the timer on it.

Khanswrath.1032:

Dan.8291:

Or send in some ENVY whatever works ;P

ENVY drops the sweetest loot bags

Yeah, kinda sucks 1 persons loot gets spread between all 30 of you

Dan.8291:

Or send in some ENVY whatever works ;P

To die to 5 ballistas n a snaring cart in greenvale, lol

Na, seriously, in terms of siege, that whateverVale lock down on bay is insanity. I’ve come to the conclusion that bay can only be defended from the inside, lol.

Dismay.4729:

And, just now, to the ENVY thief that just jumped into the middle of our zerg at dawns, dropped 15 people and got away: Send me your build O.o you cray cray

That was me on my thief bro. Sorry, but all my builds r secret

Tiglie.5834:

Great fights last night ENVY, that was a blast! Hope you guys can keep fielding 5ish, makes it tons of fun. Was even more fun with our unintentional sandwiching of Devona

That was epic Those Devona guys got out quick, lol.

But yeah, in Envy we just like to have fun killing people. We run in all forms, zergs, 5-man, whichever sounds the most enjoyable at the time really. And if the server needs help, you’ll always see us there.

Yeah, I’ve barely seen any Kaineg around lately either. Maybe they just look small with all the Devona swarming all around the place?

Honestly Devona, props on being able to even see your few enemies with the waves of friendlies you have around you, figured it would blot out the bits of red.

YumeBaka.3428:

hey… wait… there is a score board for Wv3? I thought it was just to kill as many red names as possible.

That was my understanding.

Game mechanics literally prevent you from being able to boot from guild, unless you’re standing next to the person (as far as I know). I’ve tried plenty.
Long story short… if someone server hops (or stays and doesn’t go), there’s no way to boot that person.

vicelicious.3407:

Not interested in joining the smack talk or e-pen enlargement group doing the chest thumping here.
But do wanna say a big thanks to Chris, his guild and ENVY for motivating a lot of us at Ferg to give WvW another shot

Am pretty sure my sentiments are echoed by many.

Thx man That’s awesome to hear. We’re tryin. On that note, props to all of Ferg imo.

It’s not just DAoC, allot of games have it, and it’s awesome.

On the other hand… those boards get skewed so much, it’s silly to even look at. Like… “most kills” by, “some guy who only runs in the most massive zergs, and sits on siege all day.” lol. Kinda ruins the purpose :/