Guild Wars 2

Im a condi engineer in full rabid gear. There’s still a few of us around.

Wow, you dropped that Norn Engie with 3 moves haha. Great video as always. You’re so good at keeping outside of people. I tend to allow myself to get caught inside which leads to problems when facing multiple opponents. You do a great job of keeping on the outside. Like the group you hit at the tower. They were chasing you and then Elixir S > evade backwards… now you’ve flipped the script on them… followed that up with a supply crate drop. Just brilliant juking there. I need to get better at that sort of play.

PS Grats on 30k kills! It’s about 25k more than I have! Haha.

Arganthium.5638:

Hey guys. I’ve played against a bunch of engis recently, and what I’ve found is that the Supply Crate elite is…. Really awesome. Perhaps a bit too awesome.

I’m not one for crying OP usually, but I’m here to ask y’alls opinion of the elite. I’ll be winning a fight by a clear health margin, when BAM somebody drops a box on my head. Usually I avoid that, but the insta-6k+ heal, healing turret, flame turret, and net turret all at once… That’s the killer. When it hits, it adds a 2-second stun, but even when it does, the skill is just… Stunning (pun half-intended :P).

Furthermore, following my duels with two engis (one of which actually got to drop supply crate twice during our duel), they did seem to agree that the skill was a bit OP.

Anyhow, I’d like to know what you guys think.

Yes it’s very strong vs thieves since it greatly reduces their mobility allowing an engineer to get hits in. Since you’re a thief, and since you say you don’t use stealth at all in sPvP then I assume you’re a S/D thief — so yea, the Supply Crate is very good against a S/D thief.

Rob.7624:

pixieish.9627:

The commando class is rumoured to be released after the sandwichmancer.

OMG yeh I heard about that!
I cannot wait for that either, but the problem is what trait line to go into!

Should it be Pork products like ham and bacon.
What about Chicken burgers?
Or MAYBE BEEF.

So much choice.
Never mind the sauces.

Whether it’s PvE, WvW, or sPvP – I trait bacon in any and every one of my builds.

Cool video. I admire your patience to actually roam in WvW without swiftness haha. I’m far too lazy to do that. But what I love about the engineer class is people really don’t know what to expect when coming against one. So many different playstyles that use different abilities — makes it hard to learn a “vs Engineer” strategy.

Great job!

At the end of the day a player shouldn’t need to go research Glicko system statistical data or spend any time calculating a servers progress. They should be able to just log into a game and have a good time. The rest is on the devs shoulders. For some people this new system worked. For others, such as myself, it didn’t. I’m still in the same kittenty match up I’ve been in for two months. And given the history of what I’ve seen in WvW in the past several months, I dont expect much difference next week. Even if we do have a new matchup. This rut of a matchup for the past two months and this weeks unluck roll of the new system has certainly taken then wind out of a lot of Anvil Rock players sails. I fear it’s just an avalanche effect now. I’ll be surprised if AR bounces back anytime soon.

AR really has to be one of the worst servers about sweeping after a take. You’d think we’d learn at some point. But clearly we won’t. Then again it really isn’t a surprise. We’ve got a long history of being pretty kittenty at defense. One of the big reasons a lot of people have left AR for other servers.

I think this thread is interesting in that I know the OP isn’t the only one who designs their build with thieves in the back of their mind. I know I do it. I know others do it. Never hear about people crafting their builds for other specific professions.

Ugh, lost power Friday evening. Just got it back on. Thought I was missing out on a new matchup. How disappointing to see we didn’t get changed. Oh well. Good excuse to play a different game.

I’d suggest Sir Koroshi’s build to start. Adjust from there. It can handle thieves very well. You can swap bomb for grenades. Perma-swiftness via Speed Kits trait.

From a WvW perspective I feel the Engineer is one of the strongest professions out there right now. I really feel like we have access to just about everything. When I get my can kicked in WvW I’ve never ever once thought “Engineer is just weak.” Its always because my skill with the engineer is weak.

I can’t really say that with the other professions I’ve played.

llkoolaid.8204:

Dovgan, enjoy being third, we might not be here next week. But I’m sure BP will keep your server down where it belongs… Have you ever thought that roaming and not actually accomplishing anything other than killing up lvl pugs is what keeps your server in the dumpster?

Since I tend to run alot with Dovgan I can tell you that he’s not a roamer in the sense you think he is. Alot of roamers are just looking for fights and don’t care about the what’s going on with the bigger picture. Dovgan is exactly the opposite. Most of the time we are doing things, its for tactical purposes on the WvW front – not roamer looking for fights front.

For example a couple of nights ago, as usual, AR had nothing in Eternal. So in order to get a foothold Dovgan did something pretty clever with some bait and switch stuff. And EBay took the bait hard. As a result AR took Overlook keep with about 8 people led by Dovgan all the while Ebay had about 40 running just outside of Overlook clueless of what was going on.

While he doesn’t run with an AR zerg he does pay attention to what it’s doing and will often do things that helps them. And he pays attention to what the enemy zergs are doing too and try to throw their game off if he can. That’s what dictates where we roam more than anything. I’ve learned so much WvW tactics, strategies, siege and counter siege placement from him that as a “roamer” I know I’ve got more knowledge than half our current commanders.

Khayoss.2019:

So after defending north camp in AR BL just long enough to take it for point tally, 2 of the AR that took me down jumped on my corpse and laugh a bunch of times.

Just wondering… when all you own in all of WvW is 2 camps, 1 at home and 1 in another BL, and you didn’t even cap it in time for the point tally, is that really the time to be corpse stomping? :|

I’ve had people from [pk] do it to me. Perhaps they have as well. Maybe they were just returning the gesture?

Terrahero.9358:

Thor.1756:

autoattack with 1-chain. if it hits an enemy in stealth, it will proceed to the second skill in the chain and you will know you’ve found an enemy.

Also, isn’t there something called a stealth trap?

And then three Thieves pop out of Stealth, insta-down you, and stealth finish you while your allies are wondering “gee what happend to Thor?”

Bingo! We have a winner!

ATourist.8359:

Thanks guys, these sound fun. I feel a little better now, just strange to see so few engineers and so many of everyone else (excluding necros). I don’t think I’ve even seen an engi commander in my server or with legendaries, just strikes you as a class not worth spending time on.

Hah. You know. Come to think of it, I haven’t seen an Engineer Commander either. But I’ve seen every other profession as one – including necros and rangers.

ATourist.8359:

How do you guys fare against other popular roamers such as thieves and mesmers? Also what can you contribute to a group, aoe and knockbacks?

From my experience, Engineers certainly have the tools necessary to counter both those professions really well. So success will ultimately depend on your skill vs theirs. Amadeus made some “How to” videos on fighting both those professions in fact. The key to being able to counter them is knowing what to expect and recognize. Which his videos do quite well IMO. I know Mesmers became much more managable for me to fight after watching his videos. Really good mesmers still wreck my world though. But that’s a failure in my skill, not the Engineer profession.

Nice video Koroshi. Its so interesting that you’ve posted this because I was going to actually ask you about fighting a S/D thief. More from a WvW perspective though. Now Jumper has a different playstyle than the way you play your S/D thief. And I’d imagine thats because playing a thief in sPvP is different than WvW.

And I was going to ask you if you could duel yourself on your thief — how would you do it? Haha. Because there’s a S/D thief I’ve been dueling recently that just tears me up everytime. We did several duels. And out of about 10 duels or more. I think I won twice.

One thing I did do to adjust to him was like Velron suggested — swapping shield for dual pistols. Mainly because the stun of the shield didnt make a difference because he’d just shadow return out of the stun immediately very much like Jumper did with you. Now normally the downside of that swap was losing the #4 ability to counter refuge. But this thief was really good and he never used refuge near me. So getting to the refuge to try and knock him out of it was futile. But when I switched to dual pistols he saw the difference and even commented on how much the burns really hurt. Which again would compliment Velron’s suggestion.

I still struggle with him though, because he adjusted too haha. But he plays a lot different than Jumper does. Jumper is way more aggressive and puts constant pressure. But perhaps I’ll switch to bombs instead of grenades. Maybe that will help. I see it worked pretty well for you.

The thing that ultimately wrecks me when fighting a good S/D thief in WvW is the daze. I’m just failing hard at avoiding it. He zips in, dazes me, gets some damage in and then zips out before I can really attack.

Thanks for the feedback everyone.

@Maskaganda I gotta have some JB in my day. I was born and raised on the blues and R&B so the Godfather of Soul is in my veins.

@yamsandjam Thanks for the tips mate! I’ll definitely try to put those tips in use. The problem with me experimenting and rotating the #8 skill was I ended up not establishing any habits with it. Other than the habit of forgetting about it haha. Also, I feel embarassed about saying this, but until recently I’ve really never used the Elixir Gun. So still figuring out the best times to use it. The #2 ability is another EG skill I don’t use enough when chasing people down.

I really love having the Elixir Gun in that slot, but I’m really starting to consider Exilir S there because the hardest part for of being outnumbered is getting a stomp in. I really hate the rally system in WvW, but that’s another topic.

And as far as us running into each other. I wish we could. I always enjoy coming across other engineers in WvW. I just rarely see them in my style of play(solo or 2-3 man roaming). Most enemy engineers I see in bigger groups or in standoffs flinging grenades. I did see a guild group from Ebay last week that had 3 Engies in it! It was awesome! I was at a fight club in EBay BL just a couple of nights ago and it was loaded with people. But there was only 3 engineers there. Me, another from AR, and one from EBay who didn’t duel much.

As far as my choice of grenades. I’m really not a fan of them. And I know ANet is going to nerf them in the future. Our server is never going to even be threat to yours so me and a couple of friends just make up our own game. We’ll pick a tower and camp and try to hold it until we logoff. Recently that’s been Ogrewatch and Pangloss and the Ogre camp in Eternal. But in those “mini-games” we create, grenades are just to useful to pass up. Especially in tower defense. If I drop one person, it can be like dominos of death when they try to res them in grenade range.

My first go at a game video. I’m a gray-haired gamer. Trying out recording for the first time and a new build. Biggest challenge for me is to hit record more often haha. Quite a few great fights I missed. Unfortunately I’m not a very good player. Mediocre at best, so I’ll never have a 4 vs 1 like Mask’s or Amadeus’ videos. So nothing is going to blow you away here. But I think it’s good to have videos of our class from time to time to keep the positive vibe going. Also Im trying to get the hang of recording, editing, rendering, etc for future ideas I have.

I love the engie class. I really do. This was just a small video of fights I had over the course of about a week. There were a lot more fights, but they were either with random people coming in or with uplevels so I figured I’d at least filter those out. Also, in my tier and the way I roam… 90% of my fights are with thieves. But making a video just on thief kills didn’t seem interesting. I tried to keep it diverse as I could. I just don’t really have a lot of footage that DOESN’T involve fighting a thief unfortunately.

The build I was trying out was Sir Koroshi’s build. I was a P/P build for the longest time so going to grenades again is still a bit of struggle for me in terms of landing them. Trying to get better at fast ground targetting with them. You might notice I switched stuff around quite a bit. Elixir Gun here, Thumper there, Radiation field(Asura racial), pistol/shield, dual pistols. Just experimenting with various things. Pretty much all rabid gear with Runes of the Undead.

Anyways, here it is if you’re interested. If not, no big whoop.

http://youtu.be/N7kLbZIJS6w

I solo/duo about 98% of the time. I pretty much do what Amadeus does. I spend a good bit of my time in supply camps and defending them. Although I’m not nearly good enough to solo defend it against 4 to 6 players.

When I’m duoing we’ll do different things depending on whats needed on the battlefield.

I’d love to run in a 5 man havock squad. Just never get the chance to.

I’d like the thumper turret to have a bigger radius.

Great guide Koroshi. Thanks for putting it together. I tend to have your twitch streams playing in the background when I’m at work. I’ve really learned a lot from watching and listening in to your streams.

Kimbald.2697:

what was the reason we couldn’t get an option to hide backpacks again?

Just gonna take a guess it’s for the same reason a warrior can’t hide their greatsword.

Wolfaen.9461:

Chris.3290:

More exciting or more rewarding? If massive scale battles are your passion, then yes.

If a battle where your individual contributions matter more, then stay away from the top tiers.

I would be more into a battle where my guilds contributions matter more. Meaning I don’t want to roam alone and I don’t necessarily want to be a part of huge zergs all the time, although I really enjoy it for a good while. I would say doing a ~30v30 fight would be my favorite sized battles.

FearTheAmish.8730:

well if looking for servers that aren’t full but still have large WvW guilds check out Ebay we have the big 4 here. also the most active community out there, and you avoid the t1/t2 drama.

http://www.ehmrybay.com

I have a question about lower tier servers after reading this.. Is it possible that lower tier servers should actually be in a higher tier, but are not because they have been restricted from the rating system that is currently in place? Do yall think there will be a huge shift in tier WvW servers once the new system as been implemented for awhile? In other words, some servers are playing above their tier skill level while others are playing below?

I think that’s the million dollar question right now. It’s going to take some time for it to be answered. As someone who has fought against Ebay for far too long, I can tell you they are indeed active and they are organized.

Kardiamond.6952:

I don’t know what the hells is happening with Egobay in Eternal tonight, but are you guys using something special?

My whole group is crashing each time you mesmer portal. We all freeze up and have to end task and reboot GW2.

No idea what happening.

P.S : By the way I hope you guys love the double pull

I’m sure it’s just the awesome stability this latest patch seems to have brought to WvW. The reason it’s happening when Ebay uses a portal is they actually use mesmer portals is my guess. AR… not so much.

Engineers have a strong presence in sPvP from what I’ve seen(I sPvP with alts when I want to take a break from my engie), but in WvW they are still the least played by far. Dunno about PvE since I never do it anymore.

Quite often I see our server forces scattered when a commander isn’t tagged up or on the field. Lets say someone who doesn’t have a commander tag wants to help lead folks on a more focused approach. What are their options outside of just grouping up?
Outside of a commander, what other tools for leadership does a player have in GW2?

Are there simple things like some sort of marker like the commander tag so that people, particularly pugs, can keep track of their leader? I mean other than the Target reticule?

I’ve played massive pvp games in the past and present that do a really good job of making it easy for players coming into a zone to get grouped up with someone willing to take lead and that person taking the lead having some basic tools to help. Are there tools like that in the game and I’m just unaware of them?

Nak.8315:

Evilzara.6378:

Ehmry is flipping keeps in AR BL like they’re camps..

I haven’t seen much of AR this pairing (last as well), but rumor someone in our map chat was stating they were intentionally trying to tank so they could get shipped down a tier.

I suppose its easy to PVD when there is no one around to man the arrow carts.

It’s been a rough couple of weeks as an AR WvWer I can tell you. I dont know how much of our lack of presence is intentional or if its just burn out. I suppose we’ll find out when the matchups get shifted. I do know I have a RL friend who I introduced to GW2 a couple of months back and they loved the game. They had a bit of good luck and had a couple of good nights their first week in WvW. Then they had the “average AR experience” in this matchup the week after and the week after that and haven’t been back since. Haha. No doubt being stuck in this matchup has been a morale buster to significant degree. Guess we’ll see how well the morale bounces back next week.

One thing I realize more and more is that AR, in WvW, really is mainly a pug server. At least from my perspective as an AR player. And I admit that my opinion is based on a limited perspective of only what I see while I play. And what I see is multiple guilds from the same server with a presence of 10 or more members. Guilds like pk, FTF, Rekz, GH, WFD. Does AR have anything like that? I know ALS is a pretty big guild, but don’t see them with the focus or presence I’ve seen of them in the past back in the BP/NSP days. I know WAR is out there, but all I’ve seen as of late is karma train calls.

Since AR is mainly a pug server, if we do have guilds out there doing stuff, the majority of the pugs are unaware of it. If we want to get focused and organized and become a stronger server then we need to communicate in a way where pugs(the majority of our force) are in the loop and get them working together. I dont mean the guild groups have to bring pugs with them, but at least use the pugs for something like supply flips, misdirects, etc. I dont think we have that.

RyuDragnier.9476:

BrimstoneAshe.5043:

Pinko.2076:

downed state, aoe cap

Absolutely this. Taking away the downed state in WvW would change the game dramatically… for the better IMO.

Until you find that you’re getting pwned by a group of less people.

Its precisely one of the reasons why I wish they would take it out. Would give the smaller groups a better chance at overcoming the odds.

Congrats on 80. Good luck out there. Learn how to fight thieves. Luckily an Engineer has a lot of good thief counters. As a roamer you’re going to be coming across a ton of them.

Been seeing more 1 guardian with a pack of thieves roaming groups lately. Might be just a trend in my tier, but it’s pretty darn nasty.

How is their sum up any less selfish than the other? In the end both players want grenades to suit THEIR playstyles. They are both inherently selfish in that regard.

Pinko.2076:

downed state, aoe cap

Absolutely this. Taking away the downed state in WvW would change the game dramatically… for the better IMO.

sostronk.8167:

BrimstoneAshe.5043:

I really feel for the OP. Being a ranger, he’s got roughly zero tools to counter that other than blind luck. I mean the thieves will tell him he DOES have counters such as wolf fear, but again it’s pretty much blind luck. Certain classes have better counters to stealth than others. Rangers are definitely on the bottom of that list.

Stealth classes have always been a challenge to fight against in MMO PvP. I must admit GW2’s version is my least favorite out of them all.

I find rangers quite good against thiefs tbh. Especially when they can res so fast. Underwater I find rangers are actually impossible to kill, whilst on land a ranger is a 50/50 in an evenly skilled fight. A couple of things that are really helpful…

Using Hunters call right before a thief stealths and the birds will flock in on the thief, deal damage and give away their position for a reasonable period of time. This can do around 5k damage and if they were relying on that stealth to survive they are as good as screwed. Also if the ranger does get downed, they have access to thunderclap that denies a finish from stealth and can get their pet to attack until Lick Wounds is available. Greatsword provides alot of good utilities including a block, cripple, evade, daze, swoop (gap closer) and stun. Throw in a GS with entangle and/or Hunters call and the thief is in trouble. If you run SB, try to bait out an early dagger storm and immediately switch to GS so that his ranged damage negation is negated for the rest of the fight :p And a trap is always good.

Make note, I didn’t say a ranger vs a thief struggles. I said a ranger countering stealth such as what the OP was trying to do in this video. For example, when a thief uses Shadow Refuge, some classes have some ways to make that dicey for a thief. A ranger really doesn’t that doesn’t involve luck. And Shadow Refuge is a fight reset ability.

I really feel for the OP. Being a ranger, he’s got roughly zero tools to counter that other than blind luck. I mean the thieves will tell him he DOES have counters such as wolf fear, but again it’s pretty much blind luck. Certain classes have better counters to stealth than others. Rangers are definitely on the bottom of that list.

Stealth classes have always been a challenge to fight against in MMO PvP. I must admit GW2’s version is my least favorite out of them all.

BigSteez.3152:

@ brimstone: I’m still not sure how your video proves anything or helps to prove your point. I’m guessing you just posted it in an attempt to prove that you aren’t one of the players taking part in the zerg orgies behind your walls.

I wouldn’t expect you to understand it’s point. And you’ve met those expectations wonderfully. I wish I could reward you with a jug of karma for your achievement. You’ve earned it.

Amins.3710:

BrimstoneAshe.5043:

Amins.3710:

Instead, what’s happened is larger tower hugging zergs afraid to come out even when there’s equal numbers.

Yes yes. Only AR is guilty of tower hugging. Ebay is like the Spartans. The weak are culled and nothing steps on the battlefield wearing the Ego Bay tag that isn’t 10ft tall and bullet proof. No one would ever witness Ebay hugging a tower when the odds are even. Ever. The below video is clearly a fake.

http://youtu.be/Rciy-kQw0cU

That… is.. AMAZING!

I can now call myself a zerg while solo roaming! WOOT.

Oh I see. You said zerg. Well that changes everything completely! Because everyone knows when painting a a server with the broad brush of cowardice that it’s group size specific. Thank you again for the lesson Enlightenment Bay.

BigSteez.3152:

Ahh.. Brim.. you should reread what you quoted from Amins, and try to figure out how far off your sarcastic comment and video was from what he said. Ego bay is kinda funny though.

I agree with Amins, the overall skills of AR and BP haven’t improved over the weeks; this goes for individual skill and group tactics

I’m sure you’re right. A Spartan is never wrong. AR doesn’t improve. And I’m illiterate. I’m sure ‘afraid to come out of their towers even when there is even numbers’ is actually something far different than what it means and my video doesn’t have the slightest connection to his statement. I was paraphrasing of course. Well I think that’s what paraphrase means. I dunno, I’m illiterate. I just hear Erudite Bay use that word from time to time so I felt special using it. Oh wait he was refering to zergs? Oh. Well that changes everything then doesn’t it.

Amins.3710:

Instead, what’s happened is larger tower hugging zergs afraid to come out even when there’s equal numbers.

Yes yes. Only AR is guilty of tower hugging. Ebay is like the Spartans. The weak are culled and nothing steps on the battlefield wearing the Ego Bay tag that isn’t 10ft tall and bullet proof. No one would ever witness Ebay hugging a tower when the odds are even. Ever. The below video is clearly a fake.

http://youtu.be/Rciy-kQw0cU

Tuluum.9638:

BrimstoneAshe.5043:

The solution isn’t that simple though. I get the impression they made their Engineer for WvW roaming. If youre a WvW roamer, you’re going to fight thieves pretty much every fight. I roam on my engineer every night and there are nights where I have 20 different fights and every one of them has a thief in them.

My time in-game is spent at about 75% solo roaming. I dont run into this issue, but I have no doubt it can change pretty dramatically from tier to tier. And to be clear, I dont really feel its even a “solution” so much as just a choice of where to invest time. I do run across thieves, but I tend to be pretty successful against them. The second I see them constantly going into stealth and regening their health, Im outta there.

Probably my tier then. 3-4 thieves + 1 support guardian is becoming a popular roaming group in my tier. Seen half a dozen different guild ones in the last week.

Where was the FC at? Darn I missed it

Tuluum.9638:

Boomstin.3460:

Yeah, just bail the fight and go find some fun encounters. No point hanging around for never ending trolling match agains’t thieves.

Yup!

Fighting thieves is one of the must “unfun” experiences I have had in any game. Doesnt matter if I win or lose, its just dull. There are so many other great things to do in game that I consider fighting 99% of thieves to be a total waste of time.

The solution isn’t that simple though. I get the impression they made their Engineer for WvW roaming. If youre a WvW roamer, you’re going to fight thieves pretty much every fight. I roam on my engineer every night and there are nights where I have 20 different fights and every one of them has a thief in them.

Thaia.5146:

1. Anti Stealth Traps are USELESS. Period.
10 supplies and nearly 4 seconds cast? Really? Seriously guys? Thief will kill me before I open my Inventory…
2. Thieves can easily escape from EVERY fight. He starts a fight, loses, stealths, heals and resets (or escapes)… and so on. Two days ago I saw a Thief kiting 2 people AND killing a Dolyak in the same time… that’s insane…
3. There is no possible way to counter stealth. I am asking – WITH WHAT? With that useless traps?
4. The risk of roaming as a Thief is 0. Beautiful, round ZERO. He can run away whenever he wants.
I have leveled an Engineer especially for WvW (because my Ele was nerfed again, and no – I’m not talking about D/D but about my Mist Form) and I use dual Pistols + H S B U Elixirs and Supply Crate of course. Traits: 10/30/0/30/0. Armor: Power/Vit/Condi. I have a question – how am I supposed to fight versus someone who is invisible 75% of the time? Glue Shot immobilize and Supply Crate stuns are useful but still – they only let me to harass him – not kill…

As an Engineer, you have quite a few tools that can be handy vs thieves. Unfortunately based on what you’ve listed in what you’re using for skills, you’re not using any of them. I’d say you’re going to struggle a bit with thieves. Or at least I should say I would struggle with them with your build. I’ve run P/P build a long time with my engie. Thieves can be beat consistently with it if you change your build a little bit.

I’d replace Elixir U with Toolkit. Toolkit is a must for me in any build I use for my Engineer in WvW. When I first started playing the Engineer I thought it was a pointless kit. Now I can’t go without it. The block from Toolkit is amazing and using it at the right time vs a thief is a game changer. Pretty much every ability in the Toolkit is useful in WvW and when fighting a theif. I’d also look at mixing some toughness gear in too helps reduce the burst damage of a thief.

But as far as how you beat a thief with your build? Timing. It really is about timing. Think in 4 second intervals. Now different thief builds will require things to time, but with your build you need to stack on as many conditions you can in those 4 seconds they are out.

Static Shot, Blowtorch, and Poison Volley. Try to make poison volley your last attack before they go into stealth because it will still track them and hit them even if they are stealthed as long as you get the attack off before they stealth.

If you can get poison, confusion, burn and bleed(all possible from pistols) on him before he stealths, he’s going to struggle because he won’t be able to clear all of those conditions. When he stealths, you can heal up, or drop potions on you for the might stacks. But again..be aware of the timing. After they stealth, they will attack in 3 to 4 seconds unless they used Refuge. Drop a glue shot right before they’re about to pop out and dodge. Stack on the conditions.

The biggest challenge you’re going to have with your build is dealing with their Shadow Refuge. That ability can allow them to reset the fight if you dont counter it well. And unfortunately your build doesn’t have great tools for it.

Your only option with your current build is blowtorch. And if that’s on cooldown then you’re pretty much stuck twiddling your thumbs knowing they are going to reset.

Runehand.9368:

DevonCarver.5370:

We agree that the rate is simply too slow right now and the build next week will make some major adjustments to that. And we will continue to analyze the data after that and make more changes as necessary. In addition we will be continuing to find ways to reward players who are doing more than just running around and killing other players.

Does ANet agree that it absolutely blows to have to guard a keep, tagging siege every half hour because it absolutely has to be done while everyone else is out there getting tons of loot bags, karma, and wxp? Or zergy, way too bloated, servers are on average 20-30 levels higher than anyone else on their tier?

Given the changes they’ve made to WvW recently, I would venture to guess that’s not their intention. They seem to be trying to put more emphasis on supply camps and supply yaks in the game in an indirect way. I dont think they want people sieging up keeps way ahead in advance. I don’t think they want you baby sitting it. I think they want you to let it decay. I think they want siege to be build more on demand when needed. Meaning the tower/keep supply needs to have plenty in stock… making yaks and camps more vital… again… indirectly. The supply traps tend to only further point to this. By making camps an yaks more vital, they in turn spread forces out to keep those things better protected. Just my take on it at least.

For me its not a matter of the length of time it takes, but just the lack of anything worthwhile. Even if they sped up the rate by 1000% the abilities make no significant impact at all. And if it makes no impact, then it’s a pointless system. I mean in the end, I enjoy WvW and will still do it. But the WvW abilities are a joke of any sort of “progression system.”

I actually sort of feel bad for the dev who had to do it. I can see the meeting with his manager.

Manager: “I want you to design a progression system for World vs World.”

Dev: “Oh cool! Man that would a be lot of fun, I got all sorts of ideas!”

Manager: “But I need you to make the system pointless and insignificant… like an achievement system or non-alchoholic beer.”

Dev: "Oh. But we already have those pointless systems in place. Why add another?

Manager: “Why did the Egyptians build pyramids? Why do the French have a different word for everything? Why would we make a multi-million dollar MMO and completely leave out a group finder tool? Some things just don’t make any sense at all and don’t need reasons. So don’t ask questions. Just make it happen.”

Luzano.6983:

Dovgan.8605:

I actually appreciate the calm and mature replies. Beats listening to the forum parrots replying with the same Neanderthalic rhetoric over and over. (I understand why they do it, but they should really focus on improving in the game to make themselves have good feels.)

See post above for reference.

Your first post was an insult and you expect calm and mature replies on a gaming forum? I lol’d.

Then Killian/Xeviel tries to say “hey I know some people you could fight that’ll give you a challenge” (aka most commonly found during fight clubs) and you respond with “1v1 can’t get daily dodger”???? lolwut.

I have been roaming like 93.78% of our matchup history together and I only remember seeing KAOS like three times. Your guild name reminded me of the movie Blood Sport too. Gonna chalk this up to playtime differences and getting bad luck with who you run across.

I will message you if I ever see you on and try and put together a group to find you guys :]

There’s only 5 of us total I think and most times its just 2-3 of us running around. And I remember seeing another [KAOS] out there although I haven’t seen them in a long time. Don’t remember their actually guild name… Knights of something or another I believe.

I’ll keep my eye out for ya. 93.78% is an impressive statistic. Not impressive as my statistic(see below). Time for me to musk up.

http://youtu.be/pjvQFtlNQ-M

Kiliaan.1934:

BrimstoneAshe.5043:

Your friends? You mean [GF]? Maybe we haven’t met. Which one are you? Thief or mesmer?

Doubt that will narrow it down, I thought everyone knew all 30+ on our roster are thieves and play mesmer secondaries.

Really though, Ehmry has some really amazing 1v1 talent, and I would be happy to hook you up with whatever class is your poison. You don’t have to fight those “OP” thieves and mesmers.

Really most of us are just looking for a challenge and I would love to see some fresh faces, if you can bring it we would love to have you.

When and where do these fight clubs take place? I’ll be happy to show up. I dont mind fighting theives and mesmers. Im just tired of fighting them. I dont think thieves are overpowered, just overplayed like Nickelback song.

Kiliaan.1934:

Dovgan.8605:

Just showing your EBay forum trolls just how easy it is.

And Archer, you are more than welcome to come have a go, there are only 2 – 3 players on EBay I have run into so far that are even worth my time.

Oh I like the big talk! Haven’t seen you around the fight clubs, however.

Leave the sandbox slaughtering to someone else and come play with the grown-ups, you have yet to meet my friends.

Your friends? You mean [GF]? Maybe we haven’t met. Which one are you? Thief or mesmer?

Khayoss.2019:

I’m glad that beating on puggles in EBG gives you so much pleasure.

I think you guys never truly understand how much of a pug server AR really is.

At the end of the day, even if you pay full $50+ price for GW2, you get a good bargain for game content that comes with the game. Additional content is just icing on the cake and isn’t costing you a dime.

Yea seems to be a love / hate divide among the engineers on the pistol. I definitely fall into the love category. For me, I like the fact that I can get so many conditions from it. Bleed, poison, confusion, burn, and blind in one weapon? Yea, I’m a fan.