I’m an altoholic, i’m not able to stick with one profession for more than a week.
One character expansion slot would help me fuel my addiction even further. 
Plus i was planning to level a revenant from 0 with a friend and it’d suck to delete my level 22 ranger.
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Posted by: ButterOfDeath.2873
Asura, always.
Eles, mesmer, necros, thieves all fit Asuras perfectly.
And here i come to the rescue!
Asuras use their title as a second name, for example Infiltrator Kepp, Savant Shrodd, etc.
Abyx is a fine first name, all you need to do is add a second name.
This way, you could even name your asura after a very known name, such as Zojja or Keppa, while having an even more correct name.A few examples (there are many job title lists on the web btw, just google it):
Apprentice Abyx
Savant Abyx
Peacemaker Abyx
Infiltrator Abyx
Revenant Abyx
any crafting profession Abyx
any of the three colleges’ disciplines AbyxHopefully this helps you ;D
those are pretty awful titles to put behind a name, asurans used their accomplishments as their titles, and it wasn’t always prefixes like that, also asurans have no last names
Of course they’re just examples, go with whatever you find fitting. >_>’
And here i come to the rescue!
Asuras use their title as a second name, for example Infiltrator Kepp, Savant Shrodd, etc.
Abyx is a fine first name, all you need to do is add a second name.
This way, you could even name your asura after a very known name, such as Zojja or Keppa, while having an even more correct name.
A few examples (there are many job title lists on the web btw, just google it):
Apprentice Abyx
Savant Abyx
Peacemaker Abyx
Infiltrator Abyx
Revenant Abyx
any crafting profession Abyx
any of the three colleges’ disciplines Abyx
Hopefully this helps you ;D
@ButterOfDeath
if you make life blast 0.5 cast, you obviously adjust the power to make up for it (so basically half the damage in half the time). That is the best way to harmonize with underwater shroud and reaper shroud who both have 1/2s cast. I do not think dhuumfire would be overpowered, it is just underpowered right now.
The actual life blast gets a much better base damage plus 1.4 power scaling when up close.
At the price of a grandmaster you double your attack speed and swap the extra damage (from 1.4 scaling to 1, quite less base damage) for a condi transfer.
It’s powerful but GM worthy.
If a 1/2 cast time life blast exists which doesn’t replace dhuumfire, i can see it being hard to balance.
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Ofc unless it’s made baseline.
Signet of Undeath: Signet Passive. Gain 1% Life Force whenever you use a skill while in combat. Signet Active. Strike nearby foes for very low damage. For 6 seconds, your Life Force will neither degenerate nor will it be reduced by damage. 60 second cooldown.
Bam. Active defense that uses shroud.
I’m unsure about the active, it might be a little too strong (it’s the same as giving thieves more initiative, you gotta be careful with that), maybe a 1s ICD would make me feel more safe.
Aside that, the active is pure genius, the 60s cooldown can be compared with endure pain, however it lasts 2 seconds more and grants a good passive at the cost of requiring you to have shroud ready and at least 10% lf.
With transfusion i don’t feel like we’d ever need a revive utility anyway
I like this so much i’ll immediatly add it to the OP.
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No way, it’d exceed the character limit. I’ll add it to the reddit discussion tho!
(it’s third most popular atm!:D:D necro hype!)
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1) make life blast a 0.5 cast time. That’s the only way to balance the various DS-1 traits. This will automatically make dhuumfire stronger.
Making life blast a 0.5s casting time ability would uberbuff power necro tho and dhuumfire risks being too powerful.
As i mentioned i’d prefer changing dhuumfire to give us plague blast.
Still 1/2 cast time, each hit transfers one condition and we lose the close range damage bonus. Useful for hybrid, useful for power(still a damage increase), useful for tanks (condi transfer) and useful for hybrid, while retaining the “king of conditions” and “controls opponents” theme. Also it’d become weaker against power professions as they don’t stack damaging conditions to us and it’d interact well with MoC.
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Golden suggestions, really thank you for chiming in.
Maybe a little too many finishers tho, blood mark shouldn’t bee a blast finisher imo.
Necros believe they’re so skilled that they need to handicap themselves to give opponents a fair chance of winning.
…Yeah, i’m obviously joking.
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From a PvE point of view, I think that if you’re able to return 2 whisps alone in swamp, you don’t lack of mobility.
Teleport is a defensive mecanic to avoid damage.
As a necromancer, you can switch into Death Shroud to take damage.
If you think teleport is an offensive mecanic then you can use Dark Path (15 sec CD).Vampiric aura’s support is fine.
Look at virtue of resolve, it heals for 100hp every 3 sec.
Unless you use very slow weapons, Vampiric aura is better than virtue of resolve.An elementalist sitting in water won’t do any dps.
Again, I focus on PvE as I think we don’t need a lot of things to be viable in a party.ALL Balance changes are PvP oriented + PvE has computer preprogrammed mobs that are too easy atm.
If you balance only for a PvP purpose, you’ll let some class behind in PvE.
How many of necromancers have been kick from a dungeon party or had to switch to an other class?The balance I purpose won’t suddently make the necromancer overpowered in PvE or in PvP, it’s just little adjustement that won’t hurt a lot and let necro shine a little in dungeons / fractals.
An ele sitting in water hitting 1 once will deal more damage than quite a few seconds of vampiric aura, plus the ele can just swap to fire, provide fire fields, swap to earth, provide might and much more, while still dps’ing.
Then whenever needed, just swap to water, dodge if you have evasive arcana, and swap back to another attunement, you don’t need to stay in water at all.
Your suggestion regarding wells is very appreciated and wouldn’t even conflict with any other suggestion as nobody suggested a change to the vampiric wells trait, so what’s the problem?
I agree to most of these changes, even if some might be a bit overtuned they are good as ideas for what we generaly want and need.
I was doing some something somilar privatly, but I was theorycrafting with making wells similar to warriors banners, large AoE but nerfed damage and slightly nerfed effects. It would mean that in boss fights or capture points in PvP the wells are more powerful and hard to evade, but bursting people with them are no longer possible. It could solve some of the mobility problems of the necro if it would force enemies who would want to fight the necro stand in the wells, making them quite powerfull. But that is just some theorycrafting that many might not agree with.
I believe the cool thing of wells is to have them “carve kitten in the ground where you die immediatly mwuahaha” kind of.
I do personally prefer versatility over raw power, which is why i like your opinion, but then they would have a big discrepancy with mesmer’s wells in general regards: low radius vs big radius, nerfed effects vs butt clench areas.
Instead, you should go for the immob route: Grant wells a low duration immob to have 1-2 ticks proc, while you calmly cast your dagger 3.
Let’s say that unyielding blast becomes baseline and the trait it replaces becomes: “Wells apply 1s of immob the first time they hit an enemy/when cast”.
Or apply that effect to spiteful spirit as it fits the trait line much better.
That may not help during boss fights, but then opponents must respect our wells even more…while being consistent with how wells generally work.
I’m against outright filling in our gaps; every class should have and needs weaknesses/drawbacks. For example, I don’t think we should be given tons of mobility, but instead give us better ways to stand and fight (so more stability options, maybe a trait that adds 1 sec of stability when we use a spectral skill, or move the stability in DS trait to a diff. line so I don’t have to pick between that and 50% crit). Instead they should improve the things we already have, especially when it comes to our weapon skills.
I agree with you, that’s why i suggested to give shadowsteps to big cooldowns, such as signet of undeath which we never use and plague.
A tiny little of projectile block/reflect is required, necro’s the only profession that has zero, thieves for example have smoke screen and the elite spin, that’s very little but enough.
Also, that’s why i’m suggesting to make the debuffs of MoC much much harder to bear instead of reducing them.
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Greetings, after the recent changes and since anet stated they’ll release a balance patch every week or two, i’ve decided to start this thread to constructively talk about necromancer’s balance.
Here i’ll leave a few points i feel important regarding the current balance of the necromancer and a few of my suggestions to get the discussion going, i’ll try to keep the suggestions as close as possible to being made (such as changing stats instead of editing a behaviour) .
What the necromancer is missing
Issues regarding weapon sets
Issues regarding traits
My suggestions
Regarding stability, reflects and mobility
)Instead of limiting corruptions’ debuffs, why don’t we make them incredibly relevant plus resistance?
Example:
Blood is power
actual:
2 stacks of bleeding 10s
2 stacks of torment 10s
new:
5 stacks of bleeding 10s
5 stacks of torment 10s
3 seconds of resistance
or
additionally gain 3 extra stacks if you already have resistance, gain resistance.
(The difference is that you must use another corruption ability to make use of this)
Corruption is all about sharing the pain, however nobody is willing to transfer so few conditions.
Just make their debuffs VERY big and with VERY long durations (hey this could even be a good way to get burning?), pair it with a tiny little of resistance so we don’t instantly nuke ourselves and boom, now we have a reason to use those.
Just apply little conditions when untraited and insanely big ones when traited.
Fun fact: in theory it would even be balanced around the fact that while in a single trait we have 33% cdr and some resistance, we also really risk killing ourselves for a very big reward (get CC’ed > kill yourself)
I would LOVE to play something like that
I really wish there was a trait turning all minions to ranged or flying
And i really wish there was a trait turning all minions invulnerable at the cost of having them not attack at all…just for the sake of proccing the condi transfers and unholy martyr like crazy lol.
Guys the necro now can be delete.
1)We have only transfer condition so if they don’t put condition on us we are died.
2) You are speaking of guardian and Mesmer. Guardian have a lot of remove condition so they put on use fire we send it back and they remove it (their damage isn’t only for burning). Mesmer put on use a lot of condition and become invisible or every dodge reflect projectle (number 4 of dagger), I forgot now they remove condition.
3) We Befoure can win a battle versus a ranger. Try now!!! If the enemy player have a bit of experience (3 days) you can be a Veteran but with the necro you can’T even touch him.
4) Always the people speak of 1vs1 the problem we don’T play 1vs1 but 5vs5 so we are destinate to die. We don’t have any way to escape.
Take the Elementalist he hasn’T a lot of condition to put on his enemy,but just with that 2 or 3 condition he can easily kill a necro.Beep bop, l2p issue detected.
If you feel like that’s how it works and you play on EU servers, i’d be glad to do some friendly duels in pvp.
I’ll use necro, always starting with no life force and i won’t change build, while you can pick any build, profession and equipment of your choice.
If you’re interested just add me, worst case scenario we both have some fun with a healthy dose of duels. ;DSure we can do 1vs1 xD will be fun…
I don’t want speak to much. I know very well the necro and if you are conditioner you will not burst me down and the wrongest things that can happened to me is loose some healthy, go away, recharge it and kill you
Win or loose, don’T change the fact that the Necromancer for the party don’T give nothing, mobility is zero, condition like bleeding, poison and other now do less damage than befoure, in a point in pvp if you are vs 3 your only hope is that the other crash Internet.
Added you, see ya ingame! ;3
You need a staff as it increases the damage you do in shroud if you enter it while having the staff equipped.
This is due the fact shroud only uses your offhand for damage calculations(or was it mainhand?).For pve, dagger/focus and dagger/warhorn are both good choices.
For pvp, dagger/focus is not the preferred choice.This, but as far as I know it’s actually because DS damage is based on the weapon stats themselves. 2h weapons have higher base stats than 1h weapons, and staff is the only necromancer 2h weapon. Previously a trait would actually boost axe damage to be comparable, so axe was useful for DS builds, but with specializations the functionality of it was changed, so.
When Reaper happens, greatsword will also be an alternative.
Of course greatsword will be the best choice for power necros running a shroud build
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/necromancer/Build-The-Merciful-Toolbox/first#post5214108
Check my thread out.
Lotsa healing, tanking, all good stuff.
Life for death really isn’t that great…. even on clerics….. most people who think it’s good go with the omfg it’s a 3k heal every 7 seconds!
Yeah…. but it’s not…. it’s a 3k heal everytime you exit ds…. but that will not be 7 seconds or even 10 seconds unless and that heal will not be there when you need it most…. you’ll probably burn it when your still at full health and then get spiked before you can even use it again
However, i’m focusing on being a tank and i haven’t made the assumption of triggering it every 7 seconds!
To reach the same amount of healing I need to hit 70.25 times, which when i actually achieve that goal my minions will have attacked far less.
So really, it IS a loss in terms of healing when using cleric, however, is it good enough to choose it for the damage?
I’ve tried letting my blood fiend kill all 3 golems 2 times each, he only healed about 20-25% hp >.>
Well, scepter/x + staff necros have a hard time maintaining life force, lich form is dope for power necros and the golem is needed for minion builds.
My suggestion is a targeted long AoE blast that:
1) Gives some stacks of low-medium duration stability (we only have foot in the grave)
2) Applies some conditions in a burst and applies bonus conditions based on the situation.
For example, if the opponent has no conditions, it also applies extreme weakness, otherwise, it applies burning/poison/bleed/whatever for each condition already present.
3) Applies boons to you tuned to be offensive, such as some big might stacks and quickness OR it summons jagged horros(!).
4) Is a blast finisher.
5) Restores X life force for each enemy hit, or restores X+Y life force if only one enemy is hit.
For example it could look like this:
5 stability for 5 seconds
Medium-high power damage and high power coefficent.
10 stacks of bleeding for 10-15 seconds (?)
3 stacks of torment for 10-15 seconds (?)
25 stacks of vulnerability for 15-20 seconds if the target had no conditions when hit.
Otherwise 1 stack of burning for 5-10 seconds for each exisiting condition.
Grants 6 stacks of might for 10 seconds.
Restores 7% life force per target hit, maximum 5 targets hit.
If only one target is hit then you gain an extra 8% life force (thus 15%).
Blast finisher
1200 range 500 radius 120s-180s cooldown
Or maybe something like this:
5 stability for 5 seconds
Medium-high power damage and high power coefficent.
Summon 2 jagged horrors for each foe hit
Summon 3/4 jagged horrors if only one foe is hit
Grants 10 stacks of might for 15 seconds
Grants 7% life force for each foe hit
Grants 15% life force if only one foe is hit
Blast finisher
1200 range 500 radius 120s-180s cooldown
And it’d take the place of plague as a corruption ability.
It inflicts 1.5 seconds immob on yourself and you’re slowed for 3s with master of corruption.
This way we get a way to quickly regen life force with condi build, a possible way to summon jagged horrors, stability without foot in the grave and a way to complement condi builds.
If running a MM build, golem should still be better because it doesn’t die over time, doesn’t impair you and you likely won’t be able to use the bleed of the jagged horrors while you would benefit more from the golem’s knockdown.
However it may be better in celestial builds, which is good!
As for lich form, power builds don’t require the extra life force, lich #1 hurts too much to pass up and it can summon jagged horrors anyway, however this elite would provide burst damage, additional targets and might, so it can still be an option.
Of course it can be nerfed to lower the cooldown and it’d be glorious together with reaper’s jagged horror shout:D:D
This is the build i’m running right now: http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-Z70;2V2Gl0f6FQ-x0;9;4klm;0157156138;4Sk0;3CoF2CoF23V
Yes, it uses some “silly elixir gun rubbish” however.
The deal is to go to a point and keep your butt in there, forever, ever, ver, er.
The elixir gun is used for its #5 and #4 and rarely for the #3, nothing else, this provides condi cleanse, lotsa heal, retaliation and some neat damage. #3 is used when you need to bypass a reflect, need the poison or allies need the condi clear.
Elixir B and its toolbelt should be used whenever available (unless you know an opponent is going down soon, in that case you can save your toolbelt skill to secure the stomp).
And now the fun part: AED and slick shoes: together with gadgeteer these skills have a very low cooldown and are truly impactful.
Together with automated medical response, AED will be up whenever you need it and if you proc the big heal you’ll be returned to full hp.
Whenever you’re >40% hp (almost always) you can use gadgeteer to boost slick shoes.
The mortar gives me 4 different fields, healing and many many many projectile finishers.
Why auto attack with your rifle waiting for cooldowns when you could be using your mortar?
In short, between gadgeteer, Elixir gun’s 4 and 5, your rifle and your mortar, you should always be doing something.
Healing through two zerker opponents isn’t unrealistic with this build
But if you purely want your rifle/pistol/shield and nothing else…
Then try something like this: http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-Z70;2V2lk0R-JRFx0;9;4kjm;0157147148;4LB0;3F-03F-035r
100% glass, 100% gadgets, 100% rifle
In this build, AED is almost always a full heal, the trick is about combo’ing all the gadgets together to survive/CC while dealing big strikes, it requires some training and it’s not forgiving.
