Guild Wars 2

You’re traited for power wrench btw.

Even with tank stats the Holosmith will move from a glass cannon a little bit up the spectrum to a balanced fighter or bruiser. There is no tank.

Also the stab and barrier on corona burst is way more survivable than super speed. Alchemy way more survivable than tools.. Idk what you’re trying to do really

60s respawn triggered on logout, dev said recently they’re looking into unstuck command rework in PvP

Wow, of all the thief builds to complain about, vault is the one that needs to be have its survivability nerfed eh

Kuya.6495:

Honestly i find that sometimes a duo queue on my team can be a liability. Maybe they will carry or maybe they will feed.

Sometimes i find a duo queue is composed of one player who is much higher skill rating than the other essentially giving your team a half a member instead.

Very true. Duo queue is only an advantage like I said, when the game can’t match you tougher enemies to compensate: IE: two top 10 players duoing

Marxx.5021:

Chaith.8256:

Marxx.5021:

I voted for solo queue. But I guess anet does not care much what ppl vote in polls. So they introduced duo queue which gives duos a mayor advantage over solo player.

Duo queue won and they implemented that…? Correct? Doesn’t that completely contradict what you’re saying that polls don’t matter?

The poll was about solo queue. People vote yes. There has never been a poll for duo queue I think.

The poll to my understanding was… “should the new ranked queue be solo or include option to Duo”…..

Marxx.5021:

I voted for solo queue. But I guess anet does not care much what ppl vote in polls. So they introduced duo queue which gives duos a mayor advantage over solo player.

Duo queue won and they implemented that…? Correct? Doesn’t that completely contradict what you’re saying that polls don’t matter?

Clearly the expansion release is more important than a consistent playing field for the PvP season.. money talks

apricotprophet.9302:

Chaith.8256:

apricotprophet.9302:

chaith do something

apricotprophet.9302:

he just comes in here to do his kappa memes

Haha well, I find requesting buffs to underwhelming utility types fine to ask for, but there are so many for every class that are garbo. Kits are one of the best utility types for Core Engi. Grenades, Tool Kit, eGun, Flamethrower, all great in builds designed around them. I use all these kits all the time, they make Core Engi one of the best core classes.

Therefore I can’t help but make a little fun when you demand buffs to something that’s no where near desperate or unusable

Yea sure but dont you find it unfun and annoying that holosmith will likely not run any kits and scrapper sometimes runs only an elixir gun just for cleansing allies. Isnt the use of kits suppose to be the fun factor of engineer, otherwise it would just be boring running around with just one weapon skill set.

Also I never claimed they are UNUSABLE I just said elite specs will not use them which you said yourself on stream that holo will use 0. And if thats the direction engineer is going to take in the future and known engi mains dont care then i guess time to move onto a different class :/

I never claimed that you said they were unusable.. I’m saying that complete overhauls should go to unusable utility types, aka, not Kits.

Depends on your game mode, I’m sure Holosmith PvE will include some kits, Holosmith PvP can include Tool Kit or Elixir Gun.. I prefer to use Spectrum Shield over a kit, but it’s not true that Holosmith will use zero kits..

Are kits supposed to be the fun factor of Engineer? No, kits are just one of many utility types that Engineer has, typically used to guarantee the Engineer has at least two skill bars.. Photon Forge is not too unlike an Elite kit, I’m thinking that fills the need for Holosmith fun factor.

Toramaru.1904:

We (condi users) don’t nuke people down, that’s why we need to wear them off

Haha, dying to conditions in PvP, it’s usually because dying too fast to have condition clear reaction time. It’s that fast

apricotprophet.9302:

chaith do something

apricotprophet.9302:

he just comes in here to do his kappa memes

Haha well, I find requesting buffs to underwhelming utility types fine to ask for, but there are so many for every class that are garbo. Kits are one of the best utility types for Core Engi. Grenades, Tool Kit, eGun, Flamethrower, all great in builds designed around them. I use all these kits all the time, they make Core Engi one of the best core classes.

Therefore I can’t help but make a little fun when you demand buffs to something that’s no where near desperate or unusable

Dawdler.8521:

All buff no nerf for a kittening change.

All buff, no nerfs!

-Signed, Engi main

Kappa

Duo queue’s worst downside is having two legend players duo queuing with stacked MMR and combat strength higher than everyone else currently playing due to population problems.

Duo queues hardly affect the game at all untill you’re Plat3 and then you need it to not have a competitive disadvantage.

So if you’ve not reached Plat3 or facing the top rated duo Q, really, there’s no grounds for complaint.

It has its rough edges but way better and less crazy than the team queue… do you realize what happens when 5 top ladder players group up? Their team MMR is practically twice that of any other roster available – 100% win rate guaranteed.

Edit: While a SoloQ would be more equitable for all, the community voted, and playing with a friend IS something the community felt was very important for the PvP experience, I can see why as this is a community based MMO. I think there’s not really much to be done.

tigirius.9014:

Samug.6512:

Vagrant.7206:

Yes, it acts like any other kit

Not really actually, it doesn’t proc “Backpack Regenerator”.

From what I understand it doesn’t proc on swap sigils either.

No, it does.

For all purposes it is a kit swap except that it’s not an engineering kit and therefore doesn’t qualify for Backpack Regenerator

Rating gains/losses are not conspiring against you:

If you are rated 1650, both teams are average 1500, yes, you will lose in the ballpark of 18 rating. Higher rated players are supposed to exert more influence over the match, and if they don’t, they are adjusted to lose a little more rating.

If you lose more than 15, either your personal rating, or your team average rating is higher than the enemies.

The higher your rating the more likely you are to be > enemy’s team rating and lose more, it’s a countermeasure against climbing rating too fast.

Trevor Boyer.6524:

Omcrazy.4756:

Trevor Boyer.6524:

Let’s just see how you feel after you’ve experienced your first mandatory 20 game lose streak. You’ve been playing almost a month now, it’ll happen soon.

I’ll report back if it does. I’ve already had a streak where I lost something like 15 out of 20, but I am well aware I played poorly in many of those losses. It was followed by an 8 game win streak in which I played as a scrapper and not a very good one for about half of them but was lucky enough to get carried.

Oh I think you already did report back.

• 15 game lose streak
• Turns into 8 games of getting carried win streak
• Took less than a month to see an anomaly occur within the match making

You said it was your last post 4 posts ago, the lie detector determined that was a lie, Kappa

SolarDragon.7063:

Chaith.8256:

SolarDragon.7063:

Chaith.8256:

Ithilwen.1529:

I’ve seen loss streaks extending into the 60’s. Under the current circumstances, I suspect that it has more to do with lack of population.

The matchmaker doesn’t have a communist agenda to distribute wins according to each player’s emotional needs, one element you consistently leave out is skill.

• I lost 60 matches – matchmaker is rigged, game population is dead.
• Existence of pro players with 70% win rate SoloQ – gained by ‘premades’ (duo?) queuing at 3:00am, must be on an alt account facing easy enemies.

You’re living in the past a few of these comments:

• Re: Smurfing & alting comments. Once a good player gets through his placement matches, they’re already at 1700 matchmaking rating, you may stomp noobs for >/<5 placement matches if you buy a 2nd account. There’s no longer farming 100 games for pips through Amber-Ruby. You’ve been overblowing how often good players do this for close to 2 years now as well (there weren’t/aren’t many good players who care).

• Re: Premades affecting match outcome. You can’t premade in ranked, that word which you’re misusing means 5 players. If you’re trying to go from 1700 rating to 1800 rating, duo queuing is a no brainer, but before that, even someone without a single friend can attain that high with game knowledge.

I think of any of the solo queuers in NA, Magic Toker playing Power Revenant affects the match outcome more than any combination of profession and player. A player who has mastered a high map mobility, high DPS profession, you have insane ability to disproportionately affect match outcome by snowballing off of being just a little bit better (or a lot) than one other person.

Valid criticisms of the matchmaker only, please, IE: plat plat plat gold gold VS. gold gold gold gold gold or Two highly skilled duo queues vs. One highly skilled solo queue and 4 punching bags.

Pro players 70% queue solo? Proof please. Everyone I see claiming that kind of WR has been duoing on comms.

66% season win rate give or take while solo is what i get on Scrapper.

I’ve done some duo matches but never on comms. Lost a fair share while duoing, duoing win rate is not broken unless doing so puts you at the 1st place spot in the matchmaker like what you see on the leaderboard. Two ESL players duoing on comms with two DPS classes, you’re looking at 95% win rate when there aren’t a few very specific rivals queuing, ie: the top 5 on leaderboard.

Edit: Tokers season solo win rate on Rev would probably be reasonably measured at 75%..

So, proof? Every other post says the entire top of the leaderboard duos. Mostly backed up by their own admission.

I’m telling you I have in the past many seasons and currently could maintain a 66% win rate from soloing. Multiple players on the ladder spots #20-50 do the same, all or nearly all solo games. I dunno what more to say when you repeatedly ask for proof, it’s not like you can run a full match history on a player. You just get to know some good players and realize they only solo. Not every player enjoys grouping with others, this is a gaming community.

We’re also talking about two different things, 66-70% winrate doesn’t put you on top of the leaderboard.. page 1 is the 85-92% win rate duos who grind 4 rating per game vs. often lower rated teams.

Why are you so skeptical to believe that a player can win two out of three games when executing games properly, watch a solo queue stream and pay attention when they pull up match history….

SolarDragon.7063:

Chaith.8256:

Ithilwen.1529:

I’ve seen loss streaks extending into the 60’s. Under the current circumstances, I suspect that it has more to do with lack of population.

The matchmaker doesn’t have a communist agenda to distribute wins according to each player’s emotional needs, one element you consistently leave out is skill.

• I lost 60 matches – matchmaker is rigged, game population is dead.
• Existence of pro players with 70% win rate SoloQ – gained by ‘premades’ (duo?) queuing at 3:00am, must be on an alt account facing easy enemies.

You’re living in the past a few of these comments:

• Re: Smurfing & alting comments. Once a good player gets through his placement matches, they’re already at 1700 matchmaking rating, you may stomp noobs for >/<5 placement matches if you buy a 2nd account. There’s no longer farming 100 games for pips through Amber-Ruby. You’ve been overblowing how often good players do this for close to 2 years now as well (there weren’t/aren’t many good players who care).

• Re: Premades affecting match outcome. You can’t premade in ranked, that word which you’re misusing means 5 players. If you’re trying to go from 1700 rating to 1800 rating, duo queuing is a no brainer, but before that, even someone without a single friend can attain that high with game knowledge.

I think of any of the solo queuers in NA, Magic Toker playing Power Revenant affects the match outcome more than any combination of profession and player. A player who has mastered a high map mobility, high DPS profession, you have insane ability to disproportionately affect match outcome by snowballing off of being just a little bit better (or a lot) than one other person.

Valid criticisms of the matchmaker only, please, IE: plat plat plat gold gold VS. gold gold gold gold gold or Two highly skilled duo queues vs. One highly skilled solo queue and 4 punching bags.

Pro players 70% queue solo? Proof please. Everyone I see claiming that kind of WR has been duoing on comms.

66% season win rate give or take while solo is what i get on Scrapper.

I’ve done some duo matches but never on comms. Lost a fair share while duoing, duoing win rate is not broken unless doing so puts you at the 1st place spot in the matchmaker like what you see on the leaderboard. Two ESL players duoing on comms with two DPS classes, you’re looking at 95% win rate when there aren’t a few very specific rivals queuing, ie: the top 5 on leaderboard.

Edit: Tokers season solo win rate on Rev would probably be reasonably measured at 75%..

Zelulose.8695:

I suspect they are trying to measure in game skill somehow. So if you do well in the game even if you lose 10 times they will treat you like a carry player and pair you with bad players. I would guess you should appear to under preform the moment you see your team having a guaranteed loss. This is why players afk as the match goes on and looks like a loss.

No they have no in-game way of placing you according to stats, or have the ability to sort those that performed good rotations & mechanics. It’s all about win or lose and against whom

Vagrant.7206:

Demo weekend isn’t exactly a great point of comparison, because everybody is testing out new content. Try using rocket boots in current pvp, and you’ll see it’s not that potent as an escape skill.

If you ran HoT builds against the new PoF builds, the old HoT builds were actually still extremely strong — I tried my DH during the demo weekend, and wrecked a lot of people. Scrapper hammer wiped the floor with holosmith in duels.

Yes, HoT elite specs can be equally useful or in many cases MORE useful than PoF specs so far, with the clear exception of Berserker.

Look, I’m not going to try and convince you to slot rocket boots, but for a high DPS roamer with no added mobility in traits, sword, or Photon Forge, who needs defensive utility slots, Rocket Boots being as strong as they are will seriously help the Holosmith survive. You’re a little too scared of Spear of Justice.. (which you can Elixir S)

Captain Obvious.6951:

Rezzet.3614:

new elite spec adds a sword and a melee transformation

so as xzibit would put it: we added more melee to your meelee so you can meelee while meleeing.

(unlike core engi it has actual damage though )

This game has so much melee, and so many anti ranged skills, you may as well call it Melee Wars 2.

Core Engi was definitely not melee, especially when you had Pistols/Rifle & Grenades.
Even if they were better the closer you got, you still could be effective at range. Kinda miss that being viable.

LUST.7241:

Exciton.8942:

Totally wrong.

The PvP is too complicated and too difficult for most and thus fails to attract a larger audience.

I know this thread is pretty dated…It’s funny some people here think spamming skills against top players would work out for them.

Haha. Yeah. As someone who regularly fights and has fought the very best GW2 players, I’m constantly mindboggled by the things that can be accomplished at the very highest levels of rotation/matchup knowledge, and highest ability of timing skills vs. spamming/rotating skills.

There is an insane, unfathomable gap between the best PvP players and players who have picked up meta builds and simply learned the skill rotations. Compared to games like DOTA, the effectiveness gap is much smaller, but it’s still huge in GW2.

Winegum.2395:

I’m pretty new to the game (~1 month) so this may be a somewhat uninformed concern, but I’m trying to decide on a class to main for PoF and currently narrowed it down to Spellbreaker, Scourge, Soulbeast, and Holosmith

From the demo weekend the feeling I get is that PoF will have a lot of conditions flying around in PvP and WvW. Condition availability is baked into a lot of the new elite specs, so its not really something that can be balance patched away (although I guess you could reduce condi damage). How do you think holosmith will fair in a condition heavy meta?

I dont believe holosmith has any resistance against conditions, and there are some condi cleanses (heal turret, exit photon forge etc), but do you think that will be enough to survive against so much condition damage? Or are there other classes/elite specs that would have an easier time against conditions?

Holosmith weak to condition bursts, especially cause low health Elixir S will screw you out of your chance to hit ‘Disengage Photon Forge’ which is the Holosmith condition removal. If you are fast at leaving Photon Forge and you put out extremely high pressure you can deal with condition users fairly well… still not an easy fight by any means though.

Vagrant.7206:

Only if nobody is focusing you… which is pretty easy to get out of range pretty quickly as is. The problem is that if you are getting focused and need to escape, RB fails pretty spectacularly against skilled opponents.

Maybe after one out of one hundred uses of Rocket Boots during the demo weekend I was yanked back by a pull. Maybe about one in ten times I got stunned or dazed the millisecond I used Rocket Boots. But y’know what I did right after that? Used Rocket Boots again and got away. It’s seriously great, you can poopoo it because counterplay exists but it will save your life most every time.

Yeah, yeah it does

Vagrant.7206:

Why not?

They don’t provide any evade/defensive frames and they take up a valuable utility skill slot. The toolbelt for rocket boots is relatively weak already (I think 3 burning?), especially for power builds (which holo is built around).

The problem with most of the gadgets is that they don’t do enough when compared to other skills. If you feel that is unbalanced, then give the rocket boots evade frames or some defensive utility ala block.

Of all the classes, our mobility is weakest, with necros in second place. By not including any defense built into our only true mobility skill (unlike most of the other classes), it’s even worse.

Clearly you have not used Rocket Boots since they added two charges..

Rocket Boots is an extremely defensive skill able to disengage you from any fight with two taps. I don’t want to play Holosmith without them, practically.

Mel.3064:

Chaith.8256:

Mel.3064:

Ryan.9387:

A lot of former top players aren’t trying anymore and spend time in ranked playing fun builds over viable ones (NA). They got their titles and have no interest playing that seriously with the game in its current state.

Yes I noticed it. Those top players usually go afk as soon as someone does something they do not like while bragging about their own skill in chat. They achieved their goals and do not care if they ruin it for others anymore

Straight BS, the AFK’rs and map ragers are the 1550 rated, former duel server stars

what are duel server stars?

People who think they’re so hot right now, spending hours dueling in 1v1 servers.

Vagrant.7206:

Chaith.8256:

Milan.9035:

Chaith.8256:

Mercurias.1826:

Agreed. Holosmith skips out on Reaper’s massive health pool in exchange for truly ridiculous mobility. It’s a very fair trade off, and still extremely powerful to boot.

Holosmith is pretty slow. Core Engineer with rocket boots is ridiculously mobile.

Holosmith Holo Leap is not any significant swiftness, about as much in combat mobility as a spammable skull grinder.

holosmith with rocket boots

Yeah I guess he was comparing the tradeoffs from going from Reaper to Holosmith. Also from what I understand no EU Holosmiths went with Rocket Boots on the demo weekend..

Rocket boots still needs to be a stunbreak IMO for it to be viable. The charge system goes a long way to making them more viable, but their lack of stunbreak cripples them.

I like to picture Star Lord’s boots from Guardians of the Galaxy.

Not true at all about needing a stunbreak. Holosmith with Rocket Boots and 2 stunbreaks…..?

Mel.3064:

Ryan.9387:

A lot of former top players aren’t trying anymore and spend time in ranked playing fun builds over viable ones (NA). They got their titles and have no interest playing that seriously with the game in its current state.

Yes I noticed it. Those top players usually go afk as soon as someone does something they do not like while bragging about their own skill in chat. They achieved their goals and do not care if they ruin it for others anymore

Straight BS, the AFK’rs and map ragers are the 1550 rated, former duel server stars

Milan.9035:

Chaith.8256:

Mercurias.1826:

Agreed. Holosmith skips out on Reaper’s massive health pool in exchange for truly ridiculous mobility. It’s a very fair trade off, and still extremely powerful to boot.

Holosmith is pretty slow. Core Engineer with rocket boots is ridiculously mobile.

Holosmith Holo Leap is not any significant swiftness, about as much in combat mobility as a spammable skull grinder.

holosmith with rocket boots

Yeah I guess he was comparing the tradeoffs from going from Reaper to Holosmith. Also from what I understand no EU Holosmiths went with Rocket Boots on the demo weekend..

Mercurias.1826:

Agreed. Holosmith skips out on Reaper’s massive health pool in exchange for truly ridiculous mobility. It’s a very fair trade off, and still extremely powerful to boot.

Holosmith is pretty slow. Core Engineer with rocket boots is ridiculously mobile.

Holosmith Holo Leap is not any significant swiftness, about as much in combat mobility as a spammable skull grinder.

Ziggityzog.7389:

I mean look in NA we have the “top” players again with most likely match manipulation (in many forms) and stupid duo builds vs pug teams. We don’t have a real top list yet again just basement kiddos on a fake list like seasons 5-7.

I’ve played vs all the top leaderboard people on NA, and there are a lot in the top 30 who carry the hell out of every game they’re in.. what’s your evidence to suggest they’re match manipulating or not legitimately skilled? Every season when you can duo with a friend or queue at any timezone, so it seems like you are making no points

santenal.1054:

Game-Update-Notes-January-26-2016

“Vigor and other endurance-regeneration effects (such as traits) now stack up to a maximum of 100% bonus regeneration rate.”

Log on and count the ticks to fill up endurance with vigor, and then with vigor and Adrenal Implant – it’s significantly faster with Adrenal Implant!

I tested adrenal implant tools GM with vigor and it did stack, maybe some diminishing returns/overlap, maybe not.

Trevor Boyer.6524:

Been playing bunker druid since start of season. First 50 games were played between 1500 and 1560 rating, solidly. For once, things felt balanced. Win 500 to 450 or lose 450 to 500, games were good. Suddenly upon the morning of 8/24/2017, there was a distinct shift in match quality. Went on a 15 game lose streak where losses were looking like 200 to 500 or worse. I 1v2 or sometimes 1v3 far, the entire game, usually never even die. Yet my team mates cannot cap/hold home OR mid in 4v3s and 4v2s.
This is no embellishment, my matches are complete kitten every single time I que.

I saw the same thing happen to Chaith on day one. He was put on a team that simply couldn’t do anything to our team. Chaith carried hard but it didn’t matter because his teammates were exploding on contact. So I don’t want to hear anything about “getting good” because it is true that bad enough match making can create impossible to win situations for even the best players.

Furthermore, I find it odd that during the first three days, the matches felt real. Every player was communicating and trying hard. It felt like an inhouse or scrim. I could tell the players were real and every match was try hard balanced scores between 500/450 for wins or losses. Then suddenly… 15 games in a row of questionably real players. Where people never communicate, they almost seem like bots at times and I wonder if they are throwing or if they are handicapped one armed players. They aren’t just losing matches no, they do questionable things:

• Example A: I am far point 1v1ing an enemy bunker druid on my team’s color. My thief comes to + me but instead of actually DPSing the bunker druid “which has no damage to threaten the thief” he dances around, dodging and only striking once every 3 or 4 seconds with #1 auto then goes back to random dodging and won’t leave when I tell him to. Is he making it look like he is doing something but in actuality is just throwing? He is either throwing or he is actually a handicapped player with one arm.
• Example B: I am literally “1v3ing the far point while holding it neutral for 4 minutes or more”, I look at the mini map and see home and mid as the enemy color and 4 of my teammates on respawn. Yes, that has happened multiple times during this 15 game loss streak. How is that even possible? I’ve been training new players for years now and I can say that 4 intermediate or even new players can kill 2 veteran players rather easily in 9/10 situations. So what the hell is going on here? Is there still UBER mass amounts of match manipulation going on or do anet devs secret play in matches and like to screw with certain players? Because let me tell ya, Always seeing 4 players lose to 2 players, has got to be throwing or purposeful placement with handicapped players who only have one arm, but the match making cannot possibly be that bad. I don’t believe it. Either way you look at it, something is up that isn’t being talked about.
• Example C: Having the same exact people on my team over and over and over and over, yet the enemy teams are always different players. What is that and how is it even possible? It often feels like these players are being put with me to make 100% sure, that I lose the match every time.

My question is, why is this suddenly happening to me for 15 games in a row? Why do other players I talk to always tell me that their full season experience is more like my first 50 matches?

If anyone in that anet office cares to figure out what is wrong with this, please sit in and view my matches. I know you can do it and I think you should see this. Because when you see that I am not over-exaggerating the stories of 1v3ing far while my team losses 4v2s at home and mid, it just may inspire you to figure out what is going on here.

But, maybe you already know why. Maybe I’m just being screwed with. Sometimes I really do question it. Don’t take this as the usual idle rant about losing. I’ve played 10,000 matches and have personally trained 100s of players, some of which who went on to form ESL teams. I know the difference between players who are trying and theatrics.

You need to make your playstyle situational based on what teammates you have. If you have two beginner thieves, running a 1v3 side-point druid and watching your team die while 4v2ing mid will not leverage your ability to carry a game. If you switch to a high damage, high mobility carry when you’re expected to carry teammates is usually the smartest route. If your teamfight is really weak and you’re losing them, make sure to be there yourself and influence it.

In a match with all plat+ players, playing meta builds, your strongest class and build will do just fine, any small amount of winning you do (a 1v1, a 2v2) let alone a 1v3, that’s going to surely result in a win if you keep doing that.

If you catch yourself thinking: “Oh as long as my team wins mid 3v2, we’ll be fine.” Someone will get staggered, start doing a Forest neutral, or insta die. It’s better to just be everywhere and have a hand in all the crucial fights!!

Ithilwen.1529:

I’ve seen loss streaks extending into the 60’s. Under the current circumstances, I suspect that it has more to do with lack of population.

The matchmaker doesn’t have a communist agenda to distribute wins according to each player’s emotional needs, one element you consistently leave out is skill.

• I lost 60 matches – matchmaker is rigged, game population is dead.
• Existence of pro players with 70% win rate SoloQ – gained by ‘premades’ (duo?) queuing at 3:00am, must be on an alt account facing easy enemies.

You’re living in the past a few of these comments:

• Re: Smurfing & alting comments. Once a good player gets through his placement matches, they’re already at 1700 matchmaking rating, you may stomp noobs for >/<5 placement matches if you buy a 2nd account. There’s no longer farming 100 games for pips through Amber-Ruby. You’ve been overblowing how often good players do this for close to 2 years now as well (there weren’t/aren’t many good players who care).

• Re: Premades affecting match outcome. You can’t premade in ranked, that word which you’re misusing means 5 players. If you’re trying to go from 1700 rating to 1800 rating, duo queuing is a no brainer, but before that, even someone without a single friend can attain that high with game knowledge.

I think of any of the solo queuers in NA, Magic Toker playing Power Revenant affects the match outcome more than any combination of profession and player. A player who has mastered a high map mobility, high DPS profession, you have insane ability to disproportionately affect match outcome by snowballing off of being just a little bit better (or a lot) than one other person.

Valid criticisms of the matchmaker only, please, IE: plat plat plat gold gold VS. gold gold gold gold gold or Two highly skilled duo queues vs. One highly skilled solo queue and 4 punching bags.

Murmur.9746:

Yes having heat on other weapons would make sense but it would also unbalance the game: if heat boosts them too much then the Holo’s way too strong. So they would nerf them, but then non-holo would be too weak.

You’re looking at it from only one angle, they can nerf Photon Forge which is unique to Holosmith and create/improve weapon synergies with heat.

It just depends on how much dependence on Photon Forge they think is good to keep for Holosmith theme, they can play with that all they want. At the moment, Photon Forge is a huge dependence, naturally.

Haha, good one. Two reasons:

Broken skillsets & balance: Thief rifle de-coupled from kneeling & malice would not even function. Holosmith with free Hammer weapon upgrade would be powercreep AF. Holosmith sword is even more of a joke if you don’t have heat for bonuses.

Skills & balance is probably not even the biggest problem, seeing ArenaNet skills & balance team giving up the cohesion/theme of all specs is the hardest to visualize. Core warrior nullifying and slicing off people’s boons, Mirage using skills called ‘Tides of Time’.

Interesting idea, there are way better ideas to bring your mirage viability into the spotlight, Kappa

Nightlock.4379:

Chaith.8256:

Balance means sacrifice

That makes no sense. Why would engi have to sacrafice 1 of their toolbelts for holo form?

To gain access to the hilariously high damage of Photon Forge, you must sacrifice your Core/Scrapper F5 skill, gain the heat mechanic limitation, and deal with the threat of overheating for Photon Forge lock-out, 8k self-dmg and 6,500-9750 denial of healing.

It makes sense if you just think of one term, power creep

Tapps.1479:

clearing up to 4 conditions with a passive elixir s proc would be fairly op I think. I mean getting passive s proc with a large condi on you is one of its only weaknesses I don’t think holosmith should circumvent that.

The condition removal is there, if it’s OP, then it’s OP. It’s just that only Holosmiths with the reflexes to F5 before losing the chance to will get the condition removal.

The skill cap for the condi clear trait is pretty high, when you’ve built up heat you need to hit F5 super quick at the moment you get insta-bursted but before you get into passive Elixir S or you’ll lose all chances to remove conditions.

It’s not a bad thing entirely but it’s another extremely punishing self-pwn mechanic on top of overheating causing 4k damage + 4k damage over time + loss of 6500-9750 heat therapy healing, if it stays like this I won’t be surprised, because it leaves Holosmith more easily condi bursted by multiple people.

It really depends on if ArenaNet wants to tone down the risk and tone down the reward of Holosmith, if they nerf the damage it’ll be nice to not be screwed out of defending yourself when you get forced into Elixir S.

Crinn.7864:

Chaith.8256:

lol @ video of me just running in circles trolling 2 people at far.. hardly a Holosmith highlight reel.

It was stated in the video that I was only persuing the fight for the experience agianst the class, and that if I was seriously trying to win I would have been elsewhere.

Nice. All i said is that it’s not a good display of Holosmith or rifle

Convert Conditions to Boons when deactivating Photon Forge, based on heat level.

Doesn’t work when using Elixir S or Kits to deactivate the forge, only pressing F5. Very picky.. screws you over a lot and robs you of your condition removal at critical moments. Would be a huge rage reduction if it worked whenever you leave the forge & put your heat on remission.

Phineas Poe.3018:

Additionally, what Chaith is really failing to piece together in the collective outrage isn’t so much the fact that Chris accurately restated ArenaNet’s position on the matter but that such a position is being held in the first place.

Everyone i responded to says: “but ArenaNet announced it with intention they couldn’t play PvP again, even on new accounts!”

Those that do understand it was never intended to be an indefinite rolling dishonor for their IP address, sure you may be deeply offended and disagree. I’m just pointing out that nothing happens when you’re offended & Chris Cleary has backed this up.

Balance means sacrifice

lol @ video of me just running in circles trolling 2 people at far.. hardly a Holosmith highlight reel.

You can watch me use Rifle with Holosmith for 11hrs:

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/168449799

Rifle is very useful with Holosmith Stability

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Chaith.8256:

Natto.5819:

Chaith.8256:

Natto.5819:

Chaith.8256:

insanemaniac.2456:

great, it’s an old instance not a bug, now blacklist the dishonor dodgers and lock this thread to stop the public relations damage this thread has already caused.

“Community opinion does not dictate player punishment.”

-ChrisCleary

Chris Cleary pre-wrecking your post before you even pressed reply!

Ben Phongluangtham said they would be banned from all seasons.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/pvp/NA-July-Monthly-Tournament-Investigation/first#post6659330

Yes what Ben and Chris are saying are both correct… all their existing accounts banned for all seasons.

So what’s the purpose of a punishment, if it’s so easy to get around said punishment?

Idk, why you asking me

You seem to be defending Anet letting banned players in the tourney, so I followed up with a question to that.

I have not commented on that once. I think you confuse my lack of hysteria over Anet’s decision to be anti-punishment. My posts ITT are to point out ArenaNet punished the players exactly what they intended, and that punishment is not further affected by community opinion.. the 2 facts that Chris Cleary outlined on Reddit

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Chaith.8256:

Natto.5819:

Chaith.8256:

insanemaniac.2456:

great, it’s an old instance not a bug, now blacklist the dishonor dodgers and lock this thread to stop the public relations damage this thread has already caused.

“Community opinion does not dictate player punishment.”

-ChrisCleary

Chris Cleary pre-wrecking your post before you even pressed reply!

Ben Phongluangtham said they would be banned from all seasons.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/pvp/NA-July-Monthly-Tournament-Investigation/first#post6659330

Yes what Ben and Chris are saying are both correct… all their existing accounts banned for all seasons.

So what’s the purpose of a punishment, if it’s so easy to get around said punishment?

Idk, why you asking me

Natto.5819:

Chaith.8256:

insanemaniac.2456:

great, it’s an old instance not a bug, now blacklist the dishonor dodgers and lock this thread to stop the public relations damage this thread has already caused.

“Community opinion does not dictate player punishment.”

-ChrisCleary

Chris Cleary pre-wrecking your post before you even pressed reply!

Ben Phongluangtham said they would be banned from all seasons.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/pvp/NA-July-Monthly-Tournament-Investigation/first#post6659330

Yes what Ben and Chris are saying are both correct… all their existing accounts banned for all seasons.

insanemaniac.2456:

great, it’s an old instance not a bug, now blacklist the dishonor dodgers and lock this thread to stop the public relations damage this thread has already caused.

“Community opinion does not dictate player punishment.”

-ChrisCleary

Chris Cleary pre-wrecking your post before you even pressed reply!

The word roamer may be a bit misleading, it’s definitely a DPS meta. If you’re a player who’s able to clown 2+ average solo queuers on occasion, you need to be playing a class that can snowball the map. Necro, Revenant, DH, Thief, Mesmer.

If you’re vs. players who you feel are either much more coordinated or skilled than you, switch to a tanky build and nullify that weakness in fighting strength by pressuring side nodes with Druid, Scrapper, Warrior. Tempest is situational, can carry hard if you have a team that will likely get into teamfights.

Lordrosicky.5813:

A few people get to play monthlies again…who cares?!?!? It is actually a disadvantage to their lives to be allowed to play this game because it isn’t a productive investment of time. They could be getting top grades or working their way up to get a good job but instead they are putting another year after another year into a dead game. The joke is on them. They are punishing themselves. That 2k hours a year they spend on gw2 duelling 1v1 on mine could be invested into something productive.

Well said