Guild Wars 2

Shrouded.6450:

Cord.5371:

Lanimal.6541:

Haldunius.7864:

That’s weird that TC is stuck in T3. Did you know they’ve been in T2 and fought against guilds on BG, SBI, and SoR among others? If GW2 permitted skill by association then we’d all be in trouble.

Its funny how all the trash talkers in FA get a license to do that on the back of the IoJ oceanic crew. Everyone knows FA is being carried up the tiers by the IoJ guilds and their oceanic performances, yet they seem to be respectful on the forums but the old FA guilds continue to tarnish the servers name.

And yet you’re the ones sticking your noses into another tier’s thread and talking smack. Funny indeed.

To be fair, you guys seem to be talking behind our backs and since this is a public forum, wouldn’t it be better to say it facing us?

Or could you guys not handle that?

Small tools are always easily handled.

Lanimal.6541:

Haldunius.7864:

That’s weird that TC is stuck in T3. Did you know they’ve been in T2 and fought against guilds on BG, SBI, and SoR among others? If GW2 permitted skill by association then we’d all be in trouble.

Its funny how all the trash talkers in FA get a license to do that on the back of the IoJ oceanic crew. Everyone knows FA is being carried up the tiers by the IoJ guilds and their oceanic performances, yet they seem to be respectful on the forums but the old FA guilds continue to tarnish the servers name.

And yet you’re the ones sticking your noses into another tier’s thread and talking smack. Funny indeed.

Furiousbeard.7602:

These changes sounds great as a starting point. I can’t wait to see the future additions to WvW

They didn’t mention in that post, but the new wvw xp will only be gained after they release the patch. Anything completed before then will not count towards the new system.

Kinda sucks for those of us who have put in a lot of time to this point, but at least it is a change that will hopefully add more enjoyment for everybody in wvw.

I agree, though one thing I suppose you can say good for starting fresh, it may be more attractive to new WvWers, since they wont feel like they are so far behind. And we do need new blood to keep the wheels rolling. If that’s the case, then I’m more than happy to start from scratch.

zidia.3675:

They do need to do something with the WvW reward structure. There is really no reward at all for most after they finish the 500 badges for a legendary.

Honestly, they really haven’t done squat for WvW since launch.

WvW patch coming this month-
http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/473/feature/7169/Guild-Wars-2-What-Marchs-WvW-Patch-Will-Bring.html

SoPP.7034:

Or something to drop on the PvE’ers when they do their weekly QQ in the WvW thread about getting killed in the EB JP.

‘Gank or get ganked’

I’m horrible at coming up with something catchy, I know you guys can do better.

I always just post this when I see a QQ on “JP Campers”

Oldsarge.5609:

So why be the guy that cant let someone complete the puzzle, just asking?

All I can say on the matter is-

All I can say on the subject is….

dreztina.4820:

I really hope you fotm confusion mesmers get a swift kick in the nuts come patch day. It’s going to really kitten me off if the overpowered ele build gets nerfed but the even more overpowered mesmer build goes untouched.

Well, that would be because you were the fotm for a longer period of time, allowing the angst against you more time to build. If the mesmers continue like this, their time will come as well. The nature of the MMO beast.

Well, as for Mike Ferguson being an old DAoC hand, recall that DAoC didn’t have forums, they left us to our own devices on the VNBoards. Which may explain why so many of us have a hard time being socially acceptable on message boards in general…..

eithinan.9841:

kitten.3178:

kylia.4813:

kitten.3178:

Score update please

Thanks!

On a side note, does anyone know why when my name was quoted it says kitten.3178 instead of my real name?

I can answer this. your account name is a racial slur for jewish people. Are you really not aware of this?

This ^^.
I don’t know why the posting filter is different than the account name filter, but apparently it is. Anyway, your account name is a shortening, and often considered offensive, of the word Hebrew.

Thanks Zavulon

So, Maguuma. Do you folks have a Commander named Deadmaumau?

Magiofdeath.2745:

I guess the folks on FA just don’t like dolyaks. They do smell funny.

Quite the contrary! We love us some dolyak! The dolyak is the fruit of the Borderlands. You can barbecue it, boil it, broil it, bake it, saute it. Dey’s uh, dolyak -kabobs, dolyak creole, dolyak gumbo. Pan fried, deep fried, stir-fried. There’s pineapple dolyak, lemon dolyak, coconut dolyak, pepper dolyak, dolyak soup, dolyak stew, dolyak salad, dolyak and potatoes, dolyak burger, dolyak sandwich. That- that’s about it.

Dolyak! It’s what’s for dinner (and breakfast and brunch and lunch and tea and midnight snacks)!

Sir William PD.9615:

Quenta.2978:

Highlights against TC this week.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsTCZHMJ03s

Great video man, who’s that singing?

Kari Kimmel http://www.karikimmel.com/

I suppose we could have Chuck Norris on the score board, but sadly, Chuck Norris doesn’t keep score, because he already won!

Old meme is old…….

Rhoto.8791:

Alot of the core OG members have been running tournaments this week. We have roamed a bit in WvW maybe 3 nights so far, had some good fights with laud. Just because you see a couple OG tags in a larger fight and manage to win, doesn’t mean you owned OG. But think whatever you want if it makes you feel better. I’m sure we will get bored of spvp again soon and be out in force on the WvW scene.

Like during a match up your server is winning?

Haldunius.7864:

Emerge.9640:

WIGZ.8245:

Acelerion.6820:

dealing with useless ‘roamers’

…Sorry we killed you bro!

It’s the other way around. Both DB and Mag had these tiny groups literally having little to no effect on the WvW score. Then again, they’d run away 95% of the time. I think these groups obviously need more flavour of the month dd ele’s.

You’ll be speaking a different tune once they stop catering to the bigger group of kittens

I don’t get it. What’s that suppose to mean?

I think it means a lot of Mags can’t tell WvW from sPvP, I mean I can see how the identical “v” in there is confusing for some……

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Any-Tarnished-Coast-citizens-agree/first

See Dev post on page one.

Loken.9724:

Its hard to beat the horde back and quickly get naked to do a spawn race. But I like where your head is at.

That’s not his head….. 0.0

Add me to the list. I don’t think I’ve ever had more than 2 or 3 total disconnects since launch, with this patch I’m getting them from every few minutes to every few seconds.

Edit: On Fort Aspenwood, only happening in Gendarran Fields, so far. Moved to another server before disconnecting again and seems to be stable in Blood Coast.

Mike.7320:

Only an equally large group (zerg, duh) could fight the other group (zerg o.o)

I’m sorry, but you’re the one that’s wrong. Very often smaller groups break the backs of “zergs” and send them scampering for the hills. Sure, the zerg will often roll a small group, but if your group can only beat equally sized groups, you seriously need some WvW practice in teamwork.

katniss.6735:

Maguuma doesn’t have a guild large enough to do what BT is doing in their video. BT is gimmicky resetting the fights over and over. I guess it’s a skill since it is effective. We’re in a giant channel together telling updates for important stuff, not telling people how to play capture the camp with advanced tactics.

Ommm nom nom nom nom!!!!!

Bunzy.8674:

IRSyKo.5843:

Bunzy.8674:

Preacher.4836:

Since there is no number that when reached says that you are a zerg I wont comment on that part, However 15-20 man roaming party is most defiantly not the norm. I will say that being a zerg has less to do with the numbers and much more to do how they approach a confrontation.

Preacher

Zerging = people who use numbers rather then strategy to defeat the enemy, therefore requiring no skill.

It’s amazing that every video people have of “beating” OG they always outnumber us, strange how that happens.

Yes you are right Bunzy we have no skill

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. FA loves Maguuma. Everybody on maguuma is great people with some talented players, aside from all the forum warriors.

If you want to showcase that skill you should show it against enemies who outnumber you and not vice versa.

You obviously let the bad man get behind you. NEVER let the bad man get behind you…

Furey.6734:

Is FA not fun to fight? I find both FA/CD servers equally fun. I dont see a difference on who we are fighting.

They couldn’t tell you really, as they are FA. Though many of us were confused and kept trying to enter red keeps all week after so long in 3rd.

sinthetix.8765:

Updated list of guilds currently on Crystal Desert, staying or coming:

http://nerdpickles.com/?page_id=13

Obviously, there are TONS of guilds not listed on there. I’m adding them as they are confirmed to me.

Mass exodus? I think not.

This guy seems to disagree, but those TC players are known scoundrels ;-).

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Tarnished-Desert

The cake is a lie! But we have the cookies! FA = No alliance drama, just a ton of WvW guilds working together!

Toggles.1783:

I see, didn’t realize I was nitpicking. Sorry on that one.

I honestly think it has less to do with one loss(we’ve been beaten a lot worst than this before) and more to do with the unavoidable uneven matches that were incoming along with the fear that others would leave, leaving them ‘stuck’. A lot of guild didn’t “want” to go but felt they didn’t have a choice. (their words, not mine)

…but what do I know, I’ve only been on the server since BWE.

But hey, take credit for something you didn’t do if that’s what floats your boat.

Right, I’m certain had CD remained in a dominate 1st place this week, you would have fallen apart regardless…..yeah, you go with that if it floats your boat.

Unfortunately.5940:

Looks like server caps have been temporarily increased as all servers are now listed as very high.

Yeah, a guild leader moving to FA mentioned that this morning on the fort-aspenwood.com forums. Guess they are trying to avoid too many complaints with the last minute rush to get a free transfer before it’s too late.

Rinzler.8072:

Only a WvW player will build a ram in the middle of nowhere to worship it

Or, as another player once posted in a discussion about the difficulties of teaching noobs to WvW-

Give a man a ram, and he’ll deploy it on a road.
Teach a man to ram, and… well sometimes he’ll still deploy it on a road, but at least now he paid for the ram and not you.

Maniac.5163:

You guys are really good at defending! I think FA just has more fun attacking you guys (plus you are the bigger threat for sure) also IMHO in EB , FA is just used to being in the Red area out of habit LOL -

Exactly, after over 9000 days in 3rd, most of us are still confused as kitten as to why someone else is in our red map points. Every time I’ve seen a red door this week, I try to duck inside and refresh siege, but for some reason the guards don’t seem to like me >.<

Waffler.1257:

Na, I think it’s time to create the Garnished Dessert server! Mmmm…

Tempting, however, the eternal question- is that pie or cake?

Clark Skinner.4902:

It doesn’t make me feel better. I’m not interested that much in WvW, I just wanted an explanation about what happened earlier. You didn’t say before that CD reduced FA to 0 before. That would make sense. Although it’s still not showing CD up by doing the exact same thing.

Also, as a person who isn’t involved in this gloating in the forums, please consider me and the other non-anitfun players who are not a part of this grudge but getting punished just the same. There are jerks on every server. If one of ours is on the forum being a jerk, punish him/her here.

That’s all I have to say. Off to bed.

Many of us (myself and my guild included) aren’t “punishing” anyone. If you’re red you’re dead, be you CD or DB. If we get the chance we’ll reduce them to zero, too. We don’t play for a place, be it first, second, or third, we play to win the battle we are currently in, because the current game mechanics make anything else irrelevant.

Some of our server has cautioned at times “Don’t attack server X, then maybe they’ll allow us to take second!” Well, the vast majority of us replied- “Screw that, we’d rather fight and die and be in 3rd than play not to rile the big kids on the block!”.

Most of us didn’t take getting stomped the last few weeks personally, we took it as a lesson in how to fight better. The recent injection of players from IoJ has been great, but it hasn’t changed for a second the way we fight, it just meant there are a lot more of us fighting.

That being said, yes some on FA are taking out grudges on CD now that we have the upper hand. However, I can assure you, CD would be getting stomped either way. Again, that’s just the way the game currently works, like it or not.

Clark Skinner.4902:

Hmm. I didn’t notice anyone lording or spitting on anyone. I saw a teammate dancing over a corpse once so i /no @ my teammate to show disaproval and the dishonourable behaviour. But the /m and /t don’t have people talking down about other servers.

Also, we have had the same matchups roughly for a few weeks now. Anet placed us together because we were the closest matched. Only last week did we actually have a strong lead.

This week is an anomaly because FA with it’s turbocharge should be in the next tier up. It actually IS an unfair matchup this week. If you think CD behaved poorly having a slight edge in population, how does FA prove they handle being in power better if they behave exactly the same way?

Well, I didn’t think reducing us to zero was behaving poorly, that’s “war”. I’m referring to behavior on the forums, not the field. And it wasn’t a “slight” population edge for CD, though you can tell yourself that, if it makes you feel better.

Clark Skinner.4902:

Cord.5371:

Karma, it’s called karma.

For what?

Also, it wasn’t DB who wiped them as said above. It was a huge FA zerg with 5 omega golems. I was on the wall looking down at them, trying to get a hit or 2 in before the wall collapsed at my feet.

For the sins of the past several matches, real or perceived. CD lorded over the tier when they had the population edge, and took every chance to spit on the figurative corpses of the losing servers. The worm turned, as it always does in these games, and all the bad blood they produced, they are now getting back in spades.

Edit: Basically, a lot of FA really hate CD and haven’t had time, or reason, to hate DB. Therefore some are taking vengeance and ignoring DB at times.

Clark Skinner.4902:

I don’t follow these forums or WvW very much.

But I was just playing for a couple of hours and saw CD get totally wiped out by FA, and DB didn’t seem to be attacked at all. What’s that about?

It ended up being about 50% DB, 50% FA.

Karma, it’s called karma.

Kovu.7560:

So what’s this Dolyak Parade thing I keep hearing about?

~ Kovu

Here’s the highlights-
http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/14u07l/death_of_a_dolyak_love_and_tragedy_in_wvw/

tl;dr- Roleplayers got upset when WvW happened in a WvW zone.

Lanimal.6541:

The reason TC is better than FA or CD is not simply down to numbers. In our Oceanic we are able to consistently make sure that we do not lose more than one keep whilst being outmanned on both sides of the map. We make CD work really hard to take Bay as well (Most of the time) and CD can vouch for our SunnyHill defense. The same issue occurs during FA or CD’s off-peak hours and they are unable to hold any of the keeps (maybe except garrison sometimes in CDBL).

Why is this? Because we share knowledge consistently between our pugs and guilds.

- Lots of regular WvWvWers and established commanders give Siege placement lessons in BL and EB to the pugs.
- We map out portal-ing waypoints, smart portaling tactics onto JPGS and give to all known mesmers for our golems and for our flanks.
- We know how to keep our thieves scouting smartly and contesting waypoints smartly.
- We have in-depth defense guides on each tower and keep written up and shared between the common guilds.
- We consistently urge people to not run solo and always party up as soon as they join BL, so in case we need a team to keep north supply camps flipped (during defense), or we need a team to flank into vale and destroy their trebs, or we need a balista team to flank and take out their siege -> we dont have to ask people to party up and do it.
- We don’t do silly guild claiming of keeps and key towers and we make sure the guilds that claim it can activate multiple buffs around the clock.
- We understand micro-strategy MUCH better than you guys. In defense mode we don’t panic, we know how to use the repel timer to portal bomb you guys (timed well to respawn), we understand how to counter Golem rushes (Mortars and Balistas) and focus on that than our gate defense, we understand how to consistently adapt to superior number and superior siege during our oceanic time (look at Sunnyhill).
- Most commanders know each other and regular WvWvW veterans so information is consistently passed and our response jumping from BL to BL is extremely quick. We will abandon Inner SM Siege if it means keeping out borderland green.

And I think the biggest difference between FA and TC is that we understand prioritization of targets on defense and offense better than you guys. I don’t know how many times I see your commanders consistently moving from Lake to Briar or Briar to Lake and it makes me lol knowing you just made our defense easier.

There are many many other reasons that can be listed but these should be enough.

No, you win because you have the numbers. In this type of game that cures most any other ills. If all 3 servers had max numbers and queues on all 4 maps, then I’d buy a different theory. Now, if you move up to tier 2 and win there, then I’ll reevaluate that opinion and tip my hat to you.

Hydrophidian.4319:

Cosine.1786:

Some people need to a banner to rally behind that isn’t just ‘for scores’, you know? That Dolyak only had two days until retirement.

Also, she was raising adopted kittens.

Now the kittens are abandoned.

Alone.

In the cold.

Huddled together for warmth, their weak mewing cries swallowed by the howling winds… unheard.

So sad.

Goody, I need a new pair of mittens! Kitten Mittens mmmmmmmmm……even better, I hope they match my snazzy new Dolyak Boots!

Shardain.6947:

Cogbyrn.7283:

Stonesolid.2706:

Jaldy.6285:

We could totally let YB have TC’s battleground, their own battleground, and take over FA’s battleground! Yeah!

I propose a TC FA alliance. The purpose of our pact will be to not attack Yaks Bend for at least the duration of the next match.

I propose a 3-way Alliance. At the beginning of our next match, no one attacks anyone, no one claims SMC, and everyone has the exact same points for the entirety of the match. If we do this enough, I think we should be able to guarantee that we always fight each other.

Thoughts? Concerns?

A 3-way alliance vs the grub would be even better.

Or we could all just trade BLs completely without a fight, that would make our PvE players’ map completions so much easier!

Niim.9260:

Sir William PD.9615:

Maniac.5163:

I would like to communicate with the leadership of PiNK / The Silent Council [TSC].
This was the fourth time we killed people outside our lord room, the outer keep has not been breached for 24 hours+, the inner keep has not been breached for 48 hours+
Several defenders are now standing at our waypoint, watching these TC players jump down from the terrain that runs along the edge of map from your spawn.
Please contact me via PM/ingame mail.

Wow, this is a very lame tactic and needs to be addressed by AN. That’s certainly not intended by the game design.

What is lame is that Anet hasnt fixed this well known, since beta, terrain glitch. How hard is it to put up an invisible barrier?

No invisible barrier, rather a Bane of Leeching, that eats 10 character levels every time they pass through it.

Sam.3645:

:) Just here to update score,

TC 186k, 315 pp
Yaks 114k, 345 pp
FA 111k, 35pp

FAs are doing well in EB, while TC swept Yakbl’s upgrades, battle for second place should still be intense till reset, or I would hope.

Did you get Yak’s and FA’s pp switched there? Or did Yak’s sweep the map in the last hour or so since the last update screens?

Vendetta.4902:

I find it facinating how childish GODS reps can be in this chat. First of all nobody was ever actually in your RC for more than a minute, you just have people that tell us what you say so we can mess with you, might want to evaluate the loyalty of your members to your dictator.

I also found it funny that when four people charged your spawn you lost the camp out of some need to be able to kill our members. I am certain TC noticed the sudden lack of any defense at the camp, because 20 of you found it necessary to kill 4 of us. I would advice you against calling TC the “zerg server” and saying that GODS and FA are the only ones with tactics when something so simple can stop your siege on Bay. Also, you might be disapointed to find that FA actually outnumbered TC in that fight. Gods had 43 members on TC BL, TC only had 25 people trying to take that camp as the other commanders were near Hills and defending the north as well as holding back Yaks. The sad fact is, there was not even a commander leading the fight with FA.

I do agree that the guild drama should stay off the forums, I just wanted to chance to reply to the nonsense that has been spewed here. If you want to doubt the ability of our members in the future, feel free to set up a duel (or 3v3, 5v5, whatever) during off peak wvw times. You know how to find us.

Your continued nonsense only makes us feel better about our decision to transfer. TC is far more friendly that FA, and the nonsense, though here, is far below the lvl of team chat on FA. I do believe that FA could be more competative if more people followed the example of Ibludgeon, Malose, or Lady (insert name here) i forgot. The rest do not encourage any tactics, defense, and spend more of the time saying stupid things in team chat or spamming recruitment messages.

GL to Yaks and FA for the rest of the week. I do feel Yaks pain, your by far outnumbered by FA as well, but you seem to be far more capable and organized. I salute you.

The CW called. They want their juvenile drama back. Seriously, Some of GODS are great folks, some not so much (both those that stayed and those that left), either way you really need to take your bickering to a private forum.

Valmarius.4150:

Buy trays upon trays of food. Invite everyone in the game to your birthday party, and throw out all the trays for people to eat. After they’ve eaten, run aorund shouting. “It’s people…Soylent green is people!!!”

Dude, seriously. Spoiler alert.

OP- buy gems, then buy things like more bank space, inventory space, etc.

Fook.3914:

mine load smoothly no invi player, everything load fast. 120hz at wvw no problem. get a real computer man or a better graphic cards a better connection maybe. that mean you Yareon.2835 and your gf.

Again, you’re fixing the wrong problem. And, unless you are somehow hacking into the game’s server, to get info the rest of us aren’t, you are indeed experiencing “invi player”s at times, just like everyone else playing the game. It’s not because you do or don’t have a “real computer”, it’s because there are times when the server simply doesn’t bother to tell your local client that those “invi player”s are even there. No matter how great your gaming rig is, it can’t display other players that the server doesn’t instruct it too.

Pustulio.8207:

Caedmon.6798:

Pustulio.8207:

things/people render very quickly for me, so maybe it’s you…..or maybe I’m just lucky lol

50+ People do not render “quickly” ( might give your definition of Quickly,for me thats instant ) for you in wvwvw,since it does for no one.A group this big will be invisible untill they are smacking away on you.Vice versa.

so…basically what you’re saying is: “I have a problem, so everyone has one, and that’s FINAL”. I understand you, and a lot of people have a problem. I don’t…deal with it. And my “definition” is: “Occurring, achieved, or acquired in a relatively brief period of time”. In other words, by the time I’m close enough to be hit, I can see the people hitting me. Is that clear enough?

I’m sorry, if you are playing WvW in the same game as the rest of us, then you do indeed have this problem. It’s not a rendering issue however, it’s culling. The server simply doesn’t tell your client that anyone is there after a certain count. But don’t take my word for it, here’s a Dev post explaining that you simply CANNOT always see every other player, regardless of how uber your machine and connection are-

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Can-you-fix-it-culling/page/2#post780701

Here’s the important part-
“We currently use server-side report culling to limit the number of characters that any given game client is aware of. By limiting the number of characters that we report to any given client we also limit the bandwidth used (by the server and the client) and avoid situations where the client is overwhelmed by the number of characters that need to be processed and rendered. While this system has some obvious advantages, and it works well in PvE, the large battles that are the signature of WvW tend to highlight the deficiencies of this approach.”

PopeUrban.2578:

Give a man a ram, and he’ll deploy it on a road.

Teach a man to ram, and… well sometimes he’ll still deploy it on a road, but at least now he paid for the ram and not you.

This wins today’s thread.

ykyk.2740:

The FA/Yaks battle for placing is looking to be insane, I almost wish TC would just sit back and let them fight it out to end the week in a blaze of glory

Well, just try to beat on us both equally, that’s about the best anyone could expect.

Bob. Just plain ol’ Bob.

@OP

Loot bags in WvW, unlike in PvE, appear where you are when a target you did enough damage to dies. If you are on top of a wall trebing people at max distance, for instance, the loot bags from your kills will appear at your feet. If you got a loot bag, you did damage to the target that yielded it, even if you had moved away.

From the Devs (in the update sticky at top of forum)-

“Hi everyone,

We have now identified and applied fixes for the reported bugs related to the Lost Shores phase 1. This includes events for the NPCs Canach and Fahd al’Eshadhi, but not for Noll who is still bugged. We’ve also fixed the bugs of Miyani sending multiple emails, Blingg’s voice over being spammed, the Largos dynamic events and a few other bugs.

We’ve identified the fix for Noll’s event but this fix will require additional time to implement. Because of this we’re going to leave the Phase 1 dynamic events (investigation of the Karka attacks) open even after Phase 2 starts (Saturday November 17 at 12pm Pacific Time), which will allow us to push a fix for Noll’s dynamic event later so that players can complete phase 1 of The Lost Shores event.

This change in the organization of the event means that:
•To complete Phase 1, you have to complete the dynamic event chain leading to Noll before Saturday November 17 at 12pm Pacific Time; you will be able to complete the dynamic events after Noll once we’ve pushed the fix; you can refer to the "wiki article about Phase “:http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/The_Lost_Shores/Phase_1>; for more information;
•Some NPCs (primarily Canach and Inspector Ellen Kiel) will be duplicated for phases 2 and 3, and may appear simultaneously in Lion’s Arch and in Southsun Cove.

We’re very sorry about this and hope that you can continue to experience The Lost Shores and help us retake Lion’s Arch and repel the Karkas!”

So, if you’re waiting on Noll, don’t bother until they post a fix, just keep checking here for updates and play on in other places.