Guild Wars 2

As long as the dungeons were challenging and not super easy, I would come back to the game if they added solo dungeons. I love a good solo fight. It is very rewarding for me.

I also take the stance that if someone has a stupid or silly name, I simply just avoid grouping or interacting with them. It takes very little effort to find a non-real world name to use. If someone can’t even be bothered to do that, well that is telling.

It’s similar to people who post on forums and misspell the title and every other word. They can’t even be bothered to preview it? Of course, I’m not referring to the occasional typo.

Plus, in this game, all of your characters can have the same first name, and just use a different last name. There is no reason to use X’s.

I play these games to escape the real world; not have it thrown back in my face constantly. Players going out of their way to try sound as out of place as possible are not what I consider positive folks. They are trying to break others’ immersion; that is their intent. At the very least; they simply don’t care about other people. I wouldn’t want to associate with that type either.

I despise thematically breaking costumes as well. Tera even goes so far as to give weapon replacements that are squeaky toys. Really?

I tried Tera and hated the models and the armors. It was typical asian, so I didn’t complain, I just left.

I will not play or support a fantasy game that devolves into a world filled with players dressed as clowns, gangsters, sports-players, etc. It cheapens the aesthetic of the world far too much.

I am against mounts for the same reason. They always go too far and add pink, polka-dotted, glittery, fairy-winged two-headed gerbils or the like. Ugh. It turns into some “disneyland meets animal farm on acid” mix.

nethykins.7986:

In all honesty, there is no real priority. The priority seems to shift wildly…. It’s quite evident from pre-release to 6 months in, the game is just kinda veering sharply from patch to patch.

However, I have noticed anything to do with TP or economy are always on top while it seems that profession balance is always at the bottom.

Yes, I refer to this as the Frankenstein’s Monster of MMOs. No vision, or at least the vision they did have was abandoned.

HiddenNick.7206:

I’m really shocked that people take games so serious. Game companies are not your friends! The reasons why you like one company above another is pure PR.

Not true for many. I played WoW for about a month and a half after it launched. I didn’t like the way they were handling many things, so quit and uninstalled the game. Never loaded it again, and have not purchased another title from them since ( no SC2, no D3, etc).

Now that I see how Anet does business, they are now in that same category for me. I will never purchase another title (or expansion) with their name attached. Why? Because the title that I purchase will very likely not be what I end up with.

PS And the moderator didn’t threaten but just warn(inform) the OP so that the thread could stay OPEN! How is that bad?

It was very unprofessionally delivered.

I’ve already uninstalled because of Ascended Gear (btw Anet, your ‘Exit Survey’ is broken — surprise, surprise). Horizontal progression was the main reason I bought the game. There is no reason to continue playing now.

The forum does provide marginally entertaining lunch distractions though.

I didn’t partake of the event. I game on my own schedule when/what I want to play.

However, after finding out about the new ascended armor, I will be going home tonight and uninstalling. I have no use for WoW wannabe’s, nor their need for gear treadmills.

This game was not supposed to have those.

I bought this with the understanding that it wouldn’t have gating or power creep. It was the main positive for the game. Now that they are introducing it, there is no point wasting my time here. I’ll simply uninstall and spend my time with other games. What a waste.

I tried many times to get the vista. Sadly, after getting insta-killed by knockoffs several times, having 3 or more dedge spawn on top of me many times, and having to deal with their mechs that are 99% immune to my condition damage build (thus requiring me to use my Elite to just kill one), I gave up on this hell hole.

I immediately packed my bags and headed for Bloodtide Coast instead. I had about 10x more fun in the Coast and fighting Risen than I did suffering in that horrible mole-infested, badly tuned zone. Screw 100% map completion. It isn’t worth going back in there.

Corax.7381:

If you don’t want a gear grind – in terms of tiered progression that gate future content – that’s understandable. I don’t really want that, either. But cosmetic progression, while suitable to some, is utterly meaningless to others. Those people, I feel, must find another MMO. It’s just the sucky truth.

And you need to realize gear grinding and gated progression is utterly meaningless to others as well. I always quit MMOs near or at level cap because I know there is nothing meaningful at the end. That is until GW2, which is why I bought it.

If raid-type gear progression is added, I will uninstall the day it is announced and never touch the game again.

If it isn’t giving you the quote icon, you can work around it by manually entering it into the address line of your browser. See the following example:

Clicking on the permalink icon (which is always there) brings me to a post with this on my address line:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/How-do-I-quote-in-these-forums/first#post617038

I change it to this and hit enter:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/How-do-I-quote-in-these-forums/617038/quote

And voila, it is the same as hitting the quote icon. So

• hit the permalink icon
• change the address by removing the extra before the post number
• add a /quote to the end and hit enter

$0. I waited to see how abysmal the drop rate was. I did spend money on keys from the Mann Co. Store, and got something from every chest I opened from them though.

Anet is obviously giving the middle finger to anyone who isn’t a rich level 80 for this entire event, so I would suggest you do the same back to them.

I will be playing Valve’s Scream Fortress when it releases tonight and throughout Halloween, and happily spending money in their cash shop. The bottom line is to have fun, and if Anet is not willing to provide that for all levels, well there are plenty of games that will.

Yeah, I learned quickly that the Brawl was a waste of time. My tonics getting wasted almost instantly by the water/fear problem, getting chain-feared/knocked down/etc., 90% of the forms getting completely destroyed by 3-4 uber forms. Completely unfun, which I think is this year’s Halloween theme — Unfun.

Tyrick.9867:

JESUS CHRIST THE EVENT ISN’T OVER STOP COMPLAINING. THERE ARE THREE PARTS LEFT.

Sorry for caps but it seems people just aren’t getting it. It is extremely frustrating.

For the record, I haven’t spent a dime of real life or in-game currency on this, and it still left a sour taste in my mouth. It’s obvious now that any “cool” skins introduced are going straight to “legendary” status or the BLC toilet. So much for the end-game " starts at level 1" theory, huh?

I previously felt that spending in the Black Lion shop was perfectly fine, and supporting Anet, but now I see it just goes towards Legendaries and BLCs. So I will not be spending another penny there.

There may be 3 more acts left, but I will not be partaking of them. I will be playing another game that traditionally has excellent Halloween events, with items for everyone to collect, not just the super rich (in-game and out). That makes the event FUN. And fun is what I am after. So I will be playing that, and spending my money in their cash shop, since Halloween is my favorite holiday.

Yeah, this is one of the reasons I’m not wasting my time on the other Acts. I don’t know why they make Holiday events have level requirements — it defeats the entire purpose.

And I’m not into leeching off of other players. If I cannot complete it myself, I will not do it.

The best part is using a tonic, and immediately getting feared into water which wastes it. I stopped brawling after like the 5th time in a row that happened.

I’ll be playing Valve’s Scream Fortress update. They know how to do Halloween right. Everyone gets cool costume items to collect, not just the super rich level 80s, or people who spend $100’s in the cash shop. Anet should take notes.

But is it really retrying?

I have to say, all of this YouTube content is wasted on me as well. I do searches excluding YouTube.

My free time is far too precious to waste on 15min videos with bad music and info I could read in 20 seconds.

Angela Ranna.5638:

One day I decided to get all my ranger pets…cue epic jaunt through zones 20+ levels higher than me. Learned the hard way that rangers are really, really good at spamming dodge rolls.

Getting the shark was particularly fun – fields and fields of krait, with some hostile sharks mixed in, that I had to weave through.

Haha, I couldn’t wait for my shark either. Worst part was that it took forever for me to find one in that terrible krait-filled gloom! One hit and I was going to be a goner!

lagrangeify.5641:

I’m with you Nerien – the first time that happened to me I kitten near dropped a hot cup of coffee in my lap – “oh so this is where you’ve been”, like I’d been caught getting it on with someone in the photocopy room.

LoL! Such a funny analogy.

I too like to go invis, and was elated to see it included in the game. Sorry, but sometimes I do not want to be bothered or be social. Some of us need “alone time” to recharge. It is just how we are programmed. And depending on how my day went, I might have used up my juice or I might have a nearly full tank — it depends.

This seems like an oversight that will hopefully be corrected.

All of my characters have the same first name. The last name is usually based on their race or profession. You may not like that approach, but it works for me, as I have problems coming up with names as well.

Azoetia.2183:

It’s not just a generational thing. Some people just function differently on a basic level than others. There’s a really serious difference between introverts and extroverts. The design of modern MMOs is gradually becoming more and more welcoming to extreme introverts like me, with GW2 being the most so far. It’s a very different MMO in regards to social requirements than in times past. There are people playing these games who didn’t play them at all before, and many of them are not like you and don’t think like you, and cannot even if they want to because they’re simply wired differently. It’s not as simple as getting someone like me to “open up;” it only works on a case by case basis with very specific individuals. A message board with strangers is something I can handle, whereas instant messaging is not. The game chat is more like instant messaging.

I’m certainly not blazing through the game. My main is level 71. But I also don’t want to talk or be buddies. I’m perfectly content just running around with folks wordlessly doing DEs and skill challenges.

Excellent points. I too am a pretty extreme introvert, yet I love MMOs and have been playing them since EQ. And as group-oriented as EQ was, I never joined a guild or had many in-game friends. Why? Because as Azoetia says, I’m just not “wired that way”.

The easiest method to get me to open up and become “buddies” is to place me and one other person in encounters together. If we click, then good. That is how it worked in the old days. If I never found a buddy to click with, I would just solo or join PUGs.

However, throw me into a group and I’ll clam up. It’s just the way it works. You can try forcing me to group, like EQ, but in the end it doesn’t work. That doesn’t mean I don’t enjoy group dynamics, I do. I love playing support in groups. I just won’t be the one chatting it up.

lorazcyk.8927:

“social is as social as you make it”
“it’s your job to try and make friends, not the game’s”

No one is arguing that, but there are environments which are encouraging of teamwork and socialization, and environments which are meant to discourage it.

Let me give an example. In SW:TOR I played a Smuggler/IA. If I came to a quest area where I needed to kill NPCs and click objectives and saw other players coming over, I would stealth through some NPCs to put a wall between me and the other players. That way, they could not take the kills or clickies I needed to complete my quests.

In GW2 I go to Skill Points and DEs and actively look around for other players. I often wait for others before starting events so that I have other people to play with. I do this partly because I sometimes need more people to complete it, but usually because events are more fun with more players (until you reach a zerg threshold). There are also usually people in /map broadcasting when events are occurring or about to start. Sure, we are not holding hands and singing Kumbaya, but it’s helping each other out.

Just the other day me and a guardian bumped into each other in a cave network and ended up tackling an elite DE. Then we stuck together for about 8 elite mobs, a vista, a skill point, several mining nodes, and gobs of regular mobs. I never did that in TOR or Rift.

If GW2 wasn’t designed as it was to promote cooperative play, I would never have teamed up with this person.

Sad Swordfish.9743:

It’s funny. Not being forced to do something, strangely enough encourages me to want to play more. In prior MMOs were the carrot-on-a-stick was uber-gear that dropped from long repetitive dungeon crawls fueled by players spamming their stupid rotations, made me not want to participate.

I feel exactly the same way. In other games I would often lose interest and quit even before max level, because I knew there was nothing for me to do once I got there. Here, I can play when I want and not worry about falling behind or not being able to pvp without being far behind the curve.

warmonkey.8013:

super snip

Very well said.

EXAR.7963:

Hate and stereotyping people is a bit angsty imho. I’ve been playing since Pong as well but I played WoW for 3 years and loved it. I loved quake as well. Sometimes its just about enjoying what you enjoy without peeing in other peoples porridge.

Stereotyping people? That is what the entire basis of a raiding end game design is based on. People chasing the carrot. I am simply explaining that some of us are not carrot chasers. How many posts are we going to see complaining about the end game that I enjoy? The one post I make against the end game they enjoy is suddenly taboo?

Typical.

Just turned 40 and liking it very much.

NinjaEd.3946:

Can AreaNet please ban these posts when they pop up? Or tell the community what your stand on mounts is so they stop (hopefully) posting this garbage thinking there will ever be mounts. I think these posts are more from trolls than people with honest opinions….

I vote for the banning. I’ve already given my opinion in two or three other mount threads; not wasting my time.

You know, I found Rift and TOR to have no longevity for me; they do for other people though. And WoW I could only make it 1 and 1/2 months into vanilla before I uninstalled and never touched it again.

I do see myself sticking here, as long as the devs don’t give into the WoW crowd and add all of the things I hate from Rift/WoW/etc into this game.

I love the downed state mechanic. In fact, I suggested a very similar mechanic in the City of Heroes/Villains beta, but they were too set on making traditional roles and mechanics. It would be a great system for superhero games.

I think it adds strategy and fun overall to both PvE and PvP. Some players just hate anything and everything different.

• No loot squabbling or treadmill
• DEs
• cooperative design (shared nodes, mob exp, drops, etc)
• WvWvW

The only part I would be interested in is having a crosshair to use with quick ground-targeting.

Rick.1378:

But I’m not talking about idle chit chat about another players pet class or their feelings, if you think that then you missed my entire point. What satisfies me is strategizing a difficult encounter with others in our efforts to defeat it, maybe it’s just me but it makes it much more interesting than just sitting there with other players pressing my 1 button until it’s dead.

That’s different, and I apologize for misunderstanding. I don’t mind talking shop once in a while or during dungeon runs (if I did them any longer), but I don’t think that is the premise behind this thread.

I am “unsociable” because I get very little out of being social. I am here to enjoy the game and atmosphere. I also enjoy helping and playing along side other people. However, I loathe small talk. I have no interest in hearing about peoples’ pets, classes, their jobs, their children, or their partners. I play these games to get away from real life; not have it constantly injected into my playtime.

When I see people jump on their cellphones (or cellular babysitters as I call them) every spare second they have, I wonder if they even like themselves a little bit. They can’t seem to be alone with themselves for even a millisecond.

You say that “combat and personal story don’t need a MMO at all”, but neither does socializing, which was my point. IRC can get you all the socializing you need; so can a VOIP program with a guild. Why must everyone at a DE stop and tell each other their feelings, and what they are eating for dinner in a combat-oriented online game?

I have found the in-game community to be great. Most people will thank you for a res if they are able, people will help if you get in over your head, and will even assist if you need help getting to skill points or vistas.

I was hoping the lack of loot squabbling and resource competition would make for a better community, and I really think it has. I have no complaints about the server I am on or the players on it. It is so nice being in a cooperative game as opposed to all of those “me, me, me” games out there.

Rick.1378:

But I understand where you are coming from. It’s easier socially to just go about your business without having to talk or socialize with others, I understand that’s how the current generation of MMOers feel. I’m an older MMOer so maybe I see things differently, I find the major satisfaction in MMO’s is socializing with others, I hate barren wasteland MMO’s. I know it’s a cliche by now, but if players prefer to do content with no socialization then why do they bother with a MMO instead of a single player video game? Sure it’s because occasionally they do want to be social, but that’s what chat programs are for which you can run side by side with your single player video game.

This goes both ways. If you want to get online and socialize, go play games designed for that. Try the Sims.

GW2 was designed around combat, personal stories, and public grouping. The grouping system is one of the primary reasons I am here, and I started MMO gaming in the UO/EQ days myself. We have always been here. It is not a new phenomenon.

Right now, I am only level 55 and am using Pistol + Shield. I have been specing into Precision, Condition Damage, and Toughness. Is this viable?

There are two main reasons I ask this. First is that every condition damage item sold by the Karma merchants has Power on it instead of Precision. At least, all of the Karma merchants for the last 5-6 zones I have been in. I have even tried going to alternate zones in the same level range hoping they had different loadouts. Is Anet trying to tell me something?

Secondly, I seem to see other players having a much easier time cutting through mobs than I do. While I enjoy P+S, and understand that the shield is more defensive oriented, I still wonder if I should be doing something else.

At the moment I am running Elixer Gun (orginally was FT), Flame Turret, and Elixer-S. I was going to go with a FT build, but the Elixer Gun seems to do a better job with the build, and using the FT’s number 2 almost always gets blocked, which really only leaves me with the number 1 attack for damage.

I don’t like the Grenade Kit because of the number 1 being ground-targetted, which was the main reason I went with a condition build.

Any tips? Maybe I should be using Elixir-B instead of Elixir-S?

Shinzan.2908:

But then you’ll have a bunch of content people like me won’t see, I disliked this about GW1, stuff like Domain of Anguish, Underworld or the Deep just weren’t doable with pugs, not that they would take a first time player along anyway.

Not only that, but you end up with the “Rift problem” where the designers are forced to add more and more Raid content, leaving little-to-no resources for the design of content for non-raiders.

Many of us chose GW2 because it didn’t have raids, and because all of the developer resources would not be wasted on Raids and progression itemization.

The last thing we need is to make underwear “pretty” so that more players run around/dance at banks/etc. just to be idiots. Underwear should be as ugly as possible. :p

I’m currently leveling a Precision/Condition-based Engineer. There are no armor or weapons available on the Heart vendors with this stat combo, they are all Power.

So for me, the gear available is useless, and has been for the last 5 zones I have been in. Apparently Karma is going to be useless to me until I’m 80.

Players only want those who spoil dungeons by looking them up on YouTube, build their profession one way, and speed run through stuff. I disagree with all of that. For that reason I have not and will never step foot in a dungeon here.

As for DE’s, there is no point in grouping, because you are effectively already grouped. And as others have stated, I have no interest in hearing about your job, your ex, or your cat (I hate cats anyway).

Grouping was fun in early EQ, but has not been fun since then. Players are no longer fun to group with. They are all Skritt after Shinies, but without the humor.

No thanks. They will still insist on speed running through it. I tried dungeons in Rift and TOR and didn’t have any idea what we were doing or even what half the mobs we were fighting were since we were going mach 10 the whole way.

I would love to have some solo dungeons thrown in. At the moment, there isn’t much content that is challenging for a solo player, and it would be wonderful to have some content to accommodate this.

Multiplayer dungeons come with far too much drama and baggage. There are already people trying to get Inspect in the game so they can boot anyone without the “perfect build”.

@Hydrophidian

I meant that the fact that Magic Find is “causing contention” is irrelevant because if we do remove it from gear, as you suggested, tomorrow it will simply be replaced by another stat/item/consumable these same elitists find doesn’t find in their extremely narrow idea of how to play the game.

What do we do then? Remove that as well? Eventually we will end up with one trait build, one set of stats, and one consumable available. We should not limit player option simply because some players have control issues.

Hydrophidian.4319:

That’s debatable, as evidenced by these threads. I don’t claim to know one way or the other, myself. But what I see is a lot of folks on both sides of the issue barking about it. Whether the perception of its impact is wrong or not, it’s obviously become a problem for the social aspect of the game.

Irrelevant. If Magic Find didn’t exist, these same OCD people would still be posting trying to control how other people play and skill/equip their characters. Today it is Magic Find. Tomorrow it will be which consumable you use, or which Trait Line you HAVE to take or you are a waste to the group, the server, and humankind.

They will never be appeased until they can inspect and judge every stat, piece of armor, and trait point spent on every character they come in contact with.

I use it to sheathe mostly, and do not roleplay, so I don’t really need this option, but you have my support.

As Syphenion said, I don’t see why this wouldn’t be a fairly straightforward and simple tweak.

How about because you will now have to load more models for every single character you come across, thus lowering the amount of people you can see on your screen at once even further and also lowering framerates?

How about the fact that mounts will cause extreme clutter at banks, at waypoints, at crafting areas, and on every Heart NPC? Every game I have played that has mounts has had this problem.

Some of us do not want this to turn into Disneyland with Unicorns, Helicopters, Turtles, Snuffleupagus, etc.

Wanting to roleplay My Little Pony isn’t a good reason either.

I agree with the guy in one of the other mount threads who said if mounts were added it would end up looking like Disneyland before long. Pink unicorns, neon polka-dotted dragons, “nightmare” horses (so overdone), wolves, it never ends.

In my opinion, it ruins the aesthetics of the world, adds more unneeded models to load for each and every player, adds clutter at banks, quest-givers, crafting stations, etc., and generally ruins the look and FPS of the game.

Mounts are not needed and add nothing positive to the game besides giving players something else to collect, which we have mini-pets for.

And WvW is designed so that it takes time for players to get back into the action. If that were not the case, battles would never end.