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Inscription Trait *Bugged*– Need attention!!

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So after picking up the trait “Inscription” in Air (which should reduce the recharge of Glyphs by 20%), the glyph healing (Glyph of Elemental Harmony) recharge remains of 25 secs instead of changing to 20, same with another Glyph skill “Glyph of Elemental Powder” remains 45 secs, however, the cd did change for the rest of the Glyphs i.e. Ice Storm, Glyph of Lesser Elementals, Glyph of Elementals (Glyph Elite).

This is pretty much the reason why we still can’t play a glyph build yet, the only glyphs trait is bugged/unfixed/not tested properly.

Can other players test this as well please and report so devs could have a look at this as early as possible?

I’m attaching a screenshot of it as well.

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Superior Rune of Radiance - bugged?

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Thanks for your reply. I did try it with weapon auras as well, the 6th one doesnt seem to be changing anything at all? is it normal?

The thing is that the maximum duration I mentioned was probably implemented in the last quarterly balance patch in January/February(don’t remember the date). So while this was done, the rune never received any changes. It used to be a good rune but it’s redundant now.

Hmm makes sense now, in fact I was wondering the same, that is why I asked if I could be refunded. Since auras can’t get more than 4 secs duration, we shouldn’t have this rune in game anymore. I bought this rune to try it out and figured it’s not working.
Do you think they will refund for this and remove this rune?

Superior Rune of Radiance - bugged?

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CAN I GET A REPLY ON THIS?

Pls don’t use caps… It’s rude and childish.

As for your question AFAIK auras have a maximum duration of 4 secs, so even when you use the runes, it never exceeds that 4s. The only thing this currently has an effect on is auras you gain from combos, not any of the elementalist aura skills. I may be wrong, but I think that’s it.

Thanks for your reply. I did try it with weapon auras as well, the 6th one doesnt seem to be changing anything at all? is it normal?

And, caps doesn’t always mean rude but it’s for getting attention as well, so don’t always assume negative.

Superior Rune of Radiance - bugged?

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CAN I GET A REPLY ON THIS?

Superior Rune of Radiance - bugged?

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Can anyone explain it to me as why the 6th effect of this rune isn’t working as intended or am I understanding it wrong? It should increase the aura duration by 33%, I tired it on my ele but the duration remains the same, however, the 4th effect of this rune works fine i.e. gain 4 secs of light aura when using healing skill.

Could I please get my refund for this rune if it’s bugged atm?

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WHAT SHOULD I DO?????? HELP

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Alright, by looking at other posts and some of your comments here, it’s clear that the present pvp system is flawed. I needed “League Elite” achievement because of which I needed to do ranked only so thanks but no thanks for suggesting unranked or to see my gameplay videos lol. Thanks anyway to reply here. The picture is quite clearer to me now at least. CBA to discuss it any further, I would rather invest my time in something else.
Have fun!

WHAT SHOULD I DO?????? HELP

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Rant incoming……..

So I have been playing PVP a lot to get that last “League Elite” achievement, last season I ended up in Diamond because I didn’t get enough time to play more and get to legend and this time despite hitting Diamond quite early, I’m stuck in Diamond for so long that no matter what I play, how hard I try, I always lose and even if I win a couple of matches, I always come back to 0 pip after losing more matches. It just wouldn’t go beond tier 2. Suddenly very bad players have been put in my team ever since I hit Diamond. Even if I try to party up with my friends, we lose. I try to DuoQ, we lose. I try to bring variation of classes/ builds but I lose! What might be causing this? I’m not saying I’m a very pro player but I’m above average and I have good knowledge of rotations, disengaging, the classes I play. I’m very disappointed atm having lost tons of matches in past 2 weeks and it’s still going on. Should I quit playing pvp now because the system thinks I shouldn’t be by passing Diamond? hence no point in trying anymore? My experience now in pvp is so outrageous and disheartening. Losing almost every single match for around 2 weeks or more makes me feel like a potato.

Can anyone relate to my situation and suggest what should I do now? (considering PvP is the only thing I enjoy in this game )

Party member disconnect

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If he was in your “party” then you will lose a pip also.
If he was in your pvp team (ie you solo q or at least was not in his party before match started) then you will not lose a pip.

oh thanks! you are Roxas right? I’m Voodoo Cat! lol

Party member disconnect

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If one of my party members disconnected during a match, he/she will get a -1 PiP but how about me? Will I also get a -1 pip or it won’t change at all?

[PVP] An idea of Condi Ele build

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This is nearly the same i tried out a bit today and it´s close what i normaly play with S/F. I use sigil of fraility an doom or water depending on mood in this build. Fraility is a cover condition that procs about all 3 seconds. Also i definitly use geomancers training over Strengh of stone. Rune is soldiers.
I am not shure if i will stick to it but its quite solid.
Also i don´t like mercenaries amulet. It feels very strong and that most builds will use it. If that happens i hope its removed again.

And hi Diva. Nice to see you posting here again. Maybe even a signet build version of this is useful :-).

Hey there!
Yes, I got my expansion not so long ago and still figuring out stuff.
As far as Mercenaries trinket goes, that’s the only hope I see atm for eles if we want to add any condi flavour in our builds as Mender’s is totally power based.

Signets are officially dead , they don’t proc protection anymore, no good auras on it plus it’s so EASY to dodge. We can do absolutely nothing with signet build now. Only passive signet is somewhat useful that too in pve may be. And, more to that Thief remains our biggest problem to counter now in pvp.

[PVP] An idea of Condi Ele build

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How is burning precision working w/o precision?

Mainly for maxing out the burning duration.

[PVP] An idea of Condi Ele build

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I did try this condi build, it worked great but unranked is unranked, right? So meanwhile could you guys try this build to see it’s effectiveness and revert with your feedback please?

I personally love condi builds and would love to play a condi ele however possible.
(PvP build link isn’t working for me so I will just write it down here.)

Weapon set: D/D
Trinket: Mercenary’s
Sigils: Smoldering/ Doom (could be geomancy/ doom)
Traits: Fire – Burning Precision, Power Overwhelming, Blinding Ashes
Earth– Elemental Shielding, Strength of stone, Diamond skin/Stone heart
Tempest – Latent Stamina, Invigorating Torrents, Elemental Bastion

Healing Skill: Wash the pain away
Utilities: Feel the burn, Cleaning Fire, Armor of Earth
Elite: Rebound

If you are not being focused, you can pretty much burn burst anyone using your utilities together as well for offensive purposes.

Idea is to spam F1 whenever possible, rest is self explanatory. You would want to use spam your fire skills mainly and earth AA as secondary and rest only occasionally/ situationally.

A fun build, no? Thoughts?

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[PVP] My idea of best working build after R&D

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Hey guys,
First off, it’s pretty sad to see ele’s state in pvp atm, actually we were so dependent on cele for ele that adopting new changes are making us uneasy imo. I have literally tried every possible combination to see what could be more effective and playable. From defensive to all fresh air offensive possibilities, I figured I was missing something or another compare to what people are playing in pvp and I finally found what made me a bit happy. So here is what I think works best from my point of view:

(PvP build link isn’t working for me so I will just write it down here.)

Weapon set : Dagger/Dagger (Or Dagger/ Warhorn)
Trinket : Mender’s (debatable, tried paladin and sage too but Mender’s worked better for me)
Sigils : Leeching/ Air (Could also be Sigil of Battle in place of Air)
Traits: Water – Soothing Ice, Soothing Disruption, Cleansing Water
Arcana – Renewing Stamina, Elemental Contingency, Evasive Arcana
Tempest – Latent Stamina, Invigorating Torrents, Elemental Bastion

Healing Skill: Wash the pain away
Utilities: Lightening Flash, Cleaning Fire, Armor of Earth
Elite: Rebound

Could switch to Air for more damage in place of Arcana, however, Arcana just worked best for me, fast attunement recharge is always great in fast paced pvp environment. Overall, it is somewhat mix up of old + new build.

This has decent damage/ sustain/ mobility which I didn’t find it in any other combos. What about you? Please do share your views/ findings/ experience on ele’s builds so far before the league 2 starts lol so we wouldn’t just completely dump ele in pvp. :sad face

Info. regarding the Ascension

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Thank you guys!!!!!!! It very well clears my doubts!

Info. regarding the Ascension

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I believe placement in the next league is based on your position in this league. You can earn more tickets than and buy that backpack. You don’t lose your tickets or your achievements between the seasons

Thanks for your reply!

Do you mean getting to “Legend” division isn’t mandatory for completing the ascension? This I need to clarify and then I will be a happy woman!!

Info. regarding the Ascension

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Hello!
So, I’m in tier 3 of Diamond league and starting to getting worry about what if I don’t hit legend by the 26th of Jan. Do I need to start all over again from Amber in league 2 and hence, winning all the league tickets again? I just need Elite’s wings of glory which I suppose I can get only if I hit legend, right?

Could someone clarify on this please?

Thanks!!

[Video] Dagger Focus Celementalist montage

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By the way, have you guys tried using arcane power with the arcane crit trait and 33% to burn in fire? Hit arcane power and drakes breath and it gives 10 stacks of burning instantly. Also, it’s even more amazing when you use Arcane wave also for an extra burning stack,,,,,, I could reach 12-13 stacks by doing this all :-))

[Video] Dagger Focus Celementalist montage

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What is your opinion on the strengths of d/f vs d/d, from both WvW and a PvP perspective?

Well in most cases, offhand dagger will work out better, especially for PvE, however, D/F is much more standard for high-end PvE (high level fractals for ex.) Focus is generally only useful in PvE where you need the defensive ability or the particular encounter, such as projectile absorption on some fractal bosses.

As for PvP and WvW, both can be nice choices, so it might just end up depending on personal preference. I always go through this loop where I’ll use offhand dagger and wish I had focus equipped, then I’ll equip the focus and wish I had offhand dagger equipped. The only difference between D/D and D/F is – the extra mobility of offhand dagger is useful, but the damage difference is minimal (air auto-attack is still the best source of damage) and the extra survivability from things like Obsidian Flesh and Swirling Winds is substantial. So my opinion would be to use whatever you feel more useful for the situation or by looking at your enemy team comp in PvP, for example having mesmers and thiefs on enemy team, I would definitely switch to D/F, it is better against ranged enemies as well.

[Video] Dagger Focus Celementalist montage

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Welcome to Vabbi Diva. I am there too :-).

Thank you and good to know but I’m hardly doing WvW lately so server doesn’t really matter for now hehe

[Video] Dagger Focus Celementalist montage

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Thank you guys lol

You’re welcome! Diva, what server are you on?

I played for long enough on NA (Tarnished Coast) now I joined on EU (Vabbi), found a good pvp team there to play along. HBU

Step By Step of Might Stacking?

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Hi there! Proper Might Stacking rotations for D/F elementalist should be:

Fire#3, Fire#2, Fire#4, Water#3, Water#2 (if needed), earth dodgeroll (if needed), earth #3, earth#2, earth#3 again (to cancel the aftercast of earth#2), air, repeat!

Be sure to be able to do all of this without the firefield expiring. Also, Earth#4 should be used more for condi cleanse or reflection than might stacking.

Scepter/ Dagger Might stacking combo:

Switch to fire > Dragon Tooth > Ring of fire > Phoenix > Switch to earth > Dodge roll inside the ROF > Use Arcane blast simultaneously (for extra might) > earthquake > The Churning earth (churning earth will give might when it finishes) > Switch to fire

Please note that with sigil of battle, you should be easily at 20+might stacks with the above mentioned combo. You could also use Arcane brilliance for extra mights but I repeat be sure to be able to do all of this without the firefield expiring.

Hope it helps. Feel free to ask more

Very helpful, thank you. Is there a particular trick to getting dragon’s tooth to cast close to you? I was told to look at the ground while casting it but that doesn’t seem to accomplish anything

You’re very welcome!

As for DT though, it’s sometimes hard to land it without a target. You have to either point all the way up or all the way down. It might be dependent on the terrain and you have to make sure your character is really aiming up or down (you can check by firing projectiles like ice/stone shards). Moving while doing this seems to be more failproof. The dragon tooth / Comet will drop a bit in front of you, but easily near enough to catch it in a ring of fire. I find the flamewall to be harder to aim at or cast at the right position to catch the blast. I rarely used focus though, so it’s likely easier with more practice.

Btw, if you like, watch this video of mine for some DPS combos:

Signet Ele Still Viable [Videos Included]

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Hi there micah!

I’m glad to see you tried to make condi signet build work and no doubt it would work against a lot of builds but unfortunately in ranked or serious matches, it serves very little. Pvp is so fast paced now, if we miss to put our signets on the target successfully, we are pretty much left with no good dps pressure. That was my observation so far when I tried the signet build. It surely remains semi viable and good for having fun. Apart from that, I liked how you explained points in your vid and loved watching your fights keep up the good work!! and wanna watch more of variations! :-)

[Video] Dagger Focus Celementalist montage

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Thank you guys lol

Step By Step of Might Stacking?

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Hi there! Proper Might Stacking rotations for D/F elementalist should be:

Fire#3, Fire#2, Fire#4, Water#3, Water#2 (if needed), earth dodgeroll (if needed), earth #3, earth#2, earth#3 again (to cancel the aftercast of earth#2), air, repeat!

Be sure to be able to do all of this without the firefield expiring. Also, Earth#4 should be used more for condi cleanse or reflection than might stacking.

Scepter/ Dagger Might stacking combo:

Switch to fire > Dragon Tooth > Ring of fire > Phoenix > Switch to earth > Dodge roll inside the ROF > Use Arcane blast simultaneously (for extra might) > earthquake > The Churning earth (churning earth will give might when it finishes) > Switch to fire

Please note that with sigil of battle, you should be easily at 20+might stacks with the above mentioned combo. You could also use Arcane brilliance for extra mights but I repeat be sure to be able to do all of this without the firefield expiring.

Hope it helps. Feel free to ask more

[Video] Dagger Focus Celementalist montage

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Nothing special just some team fights footage of me playing D/F ele. The sustain is great and so is the damage!! I’m soo loving it more than before!

Here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zkHQ0oxWrM&feature=youtu.be

Feel free to ask questions or give your constructive feedback.

EDIT: Points to remember —:

NOTE: Proper Might Stacking rotations for D/F Elementalist should be:

Fire#3, Fire#2, Fire#4, Water#3, Water#2 (if needed), earth dodgeroll (if needed), earth #3, earth#2, earth#3 again (to cancel the aftercast of earth#2), air, Repeat!

Be sure to be able to do all of this without the firefield expiring. Also, do not fossilize on this rotation, but this is the order you should rotate your attunements. Also, Earth#4 should be used more for condi cleanse or reflection than might stacking.

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Having party in hotm with npc

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hahahaha awesome guys! You did better job than me

btw here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NBDc48fyeo

LOL

ESL Funday Munday #2: Elementalist 1on1 Cup

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so are Sentinel and Barbarian trinkets allowed?

Diva’s Stone Heart build WvW [Video]

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Interesting build, will definately give it a try!
Plus that video was fun to watch, you could r eally see the increasing desperation of those thieves x)

I know right!! I hate thieves !! One of them added me to party later and asked what I was running lol

Diva’s Stone Heart build WvW [Video]

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Hi

I am completly new to guild wars. Frieds tried to get me to GW2 for a long time :-). Now they made it.
I stared as an elementalist and just made LvL21 …
I am a tactician and strategist. Played DAOC years ago.
I always try to play diffrent and surprise my oponents. I hate copied cooky cutter builds and always try to smash them :-). I design characters myself.
First i had been thinking on the cepter, then came to the staff ele as i usually am a totally supportive player and like long range, and looked at signet based. When thinking and playing with the builder i turned away from heavy water going fire. (Earth and not making it complicated is my base). My build is some kind of hybrid going more power then condition damage and i would like to try conjures for burst damage.
I think i still miss a lot of things and will adapt the build but it is a similar direction of a non squishy ele that makes glass cannons whine.
I just enjoyed finding your posts of Stone Heart elementalist after reding all that stuff from D/D and attunement swaping elementalists. Of course i did see that starting in another attunement ist good :-).
So my build i like to try will have the base you have but also be quite diffrent. It swaps out some condition damage for direct damage (still burning evrything of course) and don´t use a signet going earth armor and cleansing fire + flame axe (fast atacks, might stacking, evade, burning and leap). So i have two cleansing fire at hand that will burn oponents.

Greetings

Wolf

Glad to know you found my build interesting, surely some tweaks could be done to suit your playstyle more like you said of flame axe one even tho it won’t be as great as our existing meta builds but you can taste every bit of being an ele Also, I wanted to play a full condi ele so I came up with this sorta thing. Keep me posted what new you come up with, preferably with some video to watch

Academy Gaming NA Free Agent

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So I wanted to try participating in some pvp event and decided to sign in as a free agent as stated in this official forum post but I cannot find any option to do so, it asks me to fill in team details. I can’t figure out what I’m doing wrong, can someone help me with it?

Fresh air ele new meta?

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Not really new meta since it has it’s own drawbacks, however, I thoroughly enjoy playing S/F fresh air build now a days. People normally don’t expect burst damage from ele and hence, we get the advantage out of it. Here is a match I had recorded a couple of week ago:

So discouraged and upset

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No idea what’s new with this new pvp event but I have been losing all the matches one after one. Not that I’m an expert but I’m not a bad player either. Been playing for quite 2 years and never had this kind of failure in a row It might be the time to take a break may be. Does anyone else feel any change recently in the matches? I don’t mind losing if it’s in a competitive way but it surely hurts to lose some 10-12 matches in a row past 4-5 days, I guess ever since this last update happened, I hardly won any lol /ranting over

Utilizing those free Black Lion Salvage Kits

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Hoping this might be useful for new players – I made a short collated text guide showing how you can utilize Black Lion Salvage Kits in a best way possible… let me know if you know of some other ways as well!

[PvP/WvW] The Earth Tank

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Your build looks good to me. I always like to see builds which are non standard and unique in some way (should be effective too yeah obviously). Your build looks quite similar to the one I came up with a few months back and it still works great, it does have condi cleanse issue but that can easily be worked out by swapping burning fire trait or utility. I would like to share it here again, it’s a fully earth camping heavy condi damage mono-attunement build with 100% immunity to critical hits.

Diva’s Condi Signet Build for PvP

This is the WvW version of this build

Both the builds have gameplay video included.

Out of my own experience, I can promise pure Earth condi ele is really baddass in WvW roaming

Please let us queue from open world

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I feel your pain. Made this today, it might help you too lols

http://youtu.be/5NBDc48fyeo

Mini Game in the Mists

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omg lol this is my video!! I created this today and i’m surprised how this was already posted here, probably OP is my sub on youtube. No worries, I won’t repost it now. I was really bored and tbh blame it on the long queues, I have now started torturing the dummy NPCs and I shall NOT stop !!!!

Lightning Flash supposed to be stun break?

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Looks like a typo.

[Video] S/F Fresh Air Ele in ranked PVP

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At the end it comes down to preferences for certain traits, yes! However, using scholar runes is not as good as pack tbh, I do Solo Qs and I know how much pack could give to my team mates for overall better dps.

You should name the thread, “Pack Mentality: The Elementalist’s Hunt Begins!”

lel

lolss yeah why not, it’s quite creative and logical !!

[Video] S/F Fresh Air Ele in ranked PVP

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Maybe i’ll try a game or two with pack runes instead of scholars. Your trait set up is a bit tankier than mine is. I take vital striking and arcane mastery, swapping between cleansing wave and soothing disruption. I figure since you don’t have much in the way of sustain, especially if your cooldowns are blown anyway that going more offensive works better for me. With the 20% damage at 90%+ life from scholars/vital striking its generally enough to get in and burst people hard enough to force them to go into defensive rotations and are less likely to actually hurt you.

In regards to mist form, the invuln/move speed is nice but personally I like arcane shield, so I can still put some pressure on and spam skills to sustain a bit. That being said I like to play really aggressively.

As fun as this build is, I hope it doesn’t get too popular or ele v ele fights are going to turn into who can combo faster =p and how it stands now, with the level of play i’m at most d/d ele’s are pretty bad and serve for easy picking.

At the end it comes down to preferences for certain traits, yes! However, using scholar runes is not as good as pack tbh, I do Solo Qs and I know how much pack could give to my team mates for overall better dps.

Dagger/dagger elementalist roaming funsies

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Quite impressive, Gokil. I assume you’re carrying a lot of celestial stuff, that sustain was incredible. :-)

[Video] S/F Fresh Air Ele in ranked PVP

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I haven’t played ranked yet, mainly because I don’t think I’m good enough not to be a burden to my team. But playing s/f fresh air in unranked solo q’s is incredibly fun. d/d cele may be the more solid build and gives you more room for mistakes but its dull as hell.

s/f makes you feel like you are actually a threat and most people really don’t expect the burst from an ele. I haven’t watched your video yet, but which runes/sigils did you go with? from memory I use scholar and air/doom but i’m curious as to what other s/f are running with.

Indeed! S/F fresh air build is impressively effective and fun to use. You feel like a killing machine unlike that boring D/D cele build. Anyway, I use Pack runes (Fury, might, swiftness in combat for myself and allies also) with Air and Fire sigils. Let me know your views after you have watched my video

Can you help me out with my build, please?

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Hi there,

Playing a squishy Staff ele in pvp is more than fun plus super risky. If you still wanna give it a go, I have a video to show which would give you an idea how does it work:

However, if you wanna be a balanced/ team supportive staff ele in spvp, at least go for celestial trinket with 4 in arcana and 4 in water (boon sharing, condi cleanse are key support to your party members) .

Which ascended armor to make?

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I only made one full Berserker Ascended set for lvl 50 fractals, otherwise it’s not very useful to make IMO stats wise as it’s a very tiny bit boost to exotic stats

Elementalist Combos

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The ones you mentioned are staff combos, still the same. However, if you wanna learn some Scepter/Dagger DPS or might stacking combos, have a look at this video:

I hope it helps

Scepter/ Focus Fresh Air Elementalist

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S/F is really fun and really viable if you play it for fun. .

This^ I really don’t understand why people think it’s only for fun. I see it has a huge potential of bursting people down so quickly and with team support, it’s even better!! People need to stop comparing it to D/D celestial ele :/ which we all know it’s best for high level matches, however, S/X DPS builds work great in normal ranked/ unranked matches.

I just hope to see more of Scepter eles in pvp

[Video] S/F Fresh Air Ele in ranked PVP

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1st off i wanted to say, yay more bursty eles, let alone scepter main hand.
Scepter main hand is actually used/was used in high competitive play and still poses as possible ele build that still is incredibly strong. The burst is there, when done right. Whether it be gusting(Air 5) someone at the right time into Fire 243, Blinking your pheonix, or blinking (when on dagger off hand) Earth 4 into bursties. The only thing S/F lacks is the hard sustain(bunkerish) and over tankiness D/D can bring to the table. Which is why D/D is in competitive play, atm. S/f is far more glassy, but can make up for it with high burst, some sustain and nice utility. I’m Sure down the line, if you haven’t realized it already, fights can swing your way even if an enemy D/D ele is there, simply because while they are focusing on stacking might and possibly supporting, you already focused on bursting a target and viola. Then focus gives you soo much utility you can stomp. It all takes practice but is soooo worth it in the end.
The only thing i could suggest is changing your adept water trait from V to VI,III. The trait V, on zerker gives very little sustain on a high cd. It simply isn’t worth it.

Agreed to your points! Also, I changed a couple of traits now, changed air trait from X to IX and water from V to III.

I really think cele builds have outshined Scepter burst builds badly lately, otherwise these are not as bad as people think but I will leave the technical discussion to the experts though and enjoy playing what I like more.

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S/F ele boon-share is very minimal, b/c it wants to be positioned at range and boons are shared in a 240 aoe. Sure, there are some times a team-mate can run toward you so you can swap to earth/water for some prot/heals, but for the most part you should be positioned away from the fringe. As such, you probably share a similar number of boons as those a thief shares with steal. The healing pretty much comes down to soothing mist and trident, with a very rare water-swap, but shadow refuge heals for just as much, and works on down-state players too (acts as an added resser) while also securing that res.

For any SERIOUS team, you would never take s/f ele because it doesn’t outclass thief in any way
- Lower map mobility (due to unreasonably long CD on fiery GS, which is just a mobility skill). This not only allows decaps, but also allows thief to get to fights way faster to +1 and end them.
- Equivalent burst, but with a cooldown
- Less escapability when caught out of position (due to no stealth, no leaps outside of a shorter-range LF compared to shadowstep)
- Loses the 1v1 matchup with thief, and is easily farmed by good thief
- Less defense due to reliance on long-CD skills, not on-demand stealth/ports that ignore LOS
+ projectile hate

At least something like medi guard has actual trade-offs like kicking thief tail in 1v1’s to help make up for its lower mobility.

This is not to say you can’t play s/f ele. You just are making a strictly worse choice if you really care about winning. I still play it all the time, and luckily most thieves I run into are really bad and try attacking while I have full CD’s and just get destroyed.

I agree to all your points, make perfect sense!
Do you think if enemy team doesn’t have a thief then playing S/F would be advantageous for my team? Also, with thief shadow step incoming, would S/X burst ele would become more viable? I just don’t see enough zerk ele in pvp and D/D zerk would not be very wise to play. Looks like celestial is quite popular in higher level teams

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Personally i don’t think that Scepter Air is really good, its actually probably the worst attunement, so i steer away from using Air on scepter/focus at all, unless everything else is on CD or i need to pop some projectiles, or knock someone down, but the damage it provides is well..bad.
But i mean, whatever you feel like is great for you.

Fair enough! But what would you suggest going then for a good DPS ele build now a days? Staff ele is too slow to go offensively, D/D zerk is not easy nor wise to play lol. In context of zerk/ direct damage builds, we are hardly left with any options, right?

There are actually lots of builds nowadays that you can try.

Theres the popular D/D Celestial build, with 6 water 6 arcane
Might stacking is a must in this build because the raw power isn’t that high, but overall strong build with high sustain.
Probably easiest build to play aswell, because it is very forgiving.

Then theres Celestial Signet builds aswell, with 6 in earth, 4 in fire and the rest whereever you feel like.
You can run D/F , S/F, D/D in those builds aswell, anything is fine as long as you feel comfortable with it.

My personal favorite is S/F Signet build, very solid build, less healing than the meta D/D Cele build, but you take less damage overall.

Anyways, Zerker builds are not very viable in sPvP, or PvP in general for Elementalist because we are way too squishy, and the slightest mistake, will cost you your life, sometimes even if you don’t make mistakes, you will still die to some random burst from a hunter you didn’t notice in time.
Almost all the decent builds run Celestial amulet, so go with that, then run in which direction is more comfortable for you.

aww looks like you didn’t read my 1st post clearly. I’m super bored of all such d/d celestial meta builds and all. Also, if you notice in my signature, you will see my own Scepter/ Focus condi signet build. I wanted to try some zerk builds now for a change. For now, I’m gonna stick to S/F fresh air build only and hoping to get some more variations in upcoming expansions. Thanks for your comment, though

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ohhh so bloody thiefs are spoiling our business!! :P I see how it is!
But guys, ele do give a lot of healing/ boons support which a thief wouldn’t? I guess every class/ builds have their pros and cons and mobility issue could be fixed with fiery greatsword or even perma swiftness is possible with ele. What you guys think?

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Personally i don’t think that Scepter Air is really good, its actually probably the worst attunement, so i steer away from using Air on scepter/focus at all, unless everything else is on CD or i need to pop some projectiles, or knock someone down, but the damage it provides is well..bad.
But i mean, whatever you feel like is great for you.

Fair enough! But what would you suggest going then for a good DPS ele build now a days? Staff ele is too slow to go offensively, D/D zerk is not easy nor wise to play lol. In context of zerk/ direct damage builds, we are hardly left with any options, right?