Guild Wars 2

This topic will die just like every kitten running into a 1v3 thinking hes got great rotations

and again i explained that stacking stealth is doing nothing for your team unless u find the sweet spot of dps and regen. Im out of stealth more than im in it doing lots of things to win the fight including backstabs/auto attacks interrupts blinds shadow shots and swapping to s/p which has no stealth where i get my health back from signet of malice on my pistol whips and daggerstorm elite (if im running it)

What should i do now? Any answer for thief = stealth or evade/infiltrator out

Heres a tip play another class

great explaination of cheesy ( just that it’s you know , cheesy)… If my spec is soo cheesy why am i literally the only one who plays it. O right because its a tought spec to play to do well in. Basically what your definition of cheese is is a classes playstyle that you dont like. Not that it is OP while doing nothing skillful to win. (which is basically everyone elses meaning for a cheesy spec in this game. AKA Necro/spirit ranger/ sword-dagger thief right now)

Anyways sorry for this getting off topic on this post but sometimes people need to learn the game before opening their mouth on forums

LOL im Literally the only one who uses this spec at top lvl pvp and your saying that it is the only route and that it is cheese. Obviously im going to defend someone saying a skillful spec is cheese when u clearly dont understand what is viable in pvp. My spec is a far point spec which requires being able to survive 1v2-3s and break off when neccessary. If you dont like stealth then run s/d no ones stopping you and no ones saying that it is less viable. Its all play-style preference and for you to say that my spec is cheese and that s/d is not is obviously going to annoy me. Be my guest run a perma evasion spec and ignore the perma stealth. All the other specs i listed are still very usable and lots of others besides the s/p one because of the haste nerf

its not build around 3 skills at all i use headshot and shadow shot all the time for the reason i put in there. And there are lots of thief builds that are just as viable without perma stealth i used to run s/p 0/15/30/25/0 effectively back in the day pre haste nerf and same with the d/p 25/30/0/0/15 build theres also a d/p 10/30/0/0/30 build that does great. As well as s/d.

Like i said above perma stealth isnt going to help you unless you are creating that sweet spot of dps and regen

Why do u even play thief if ur not ganna use stealth offensively and defensively. Sounds like you need to quit qqing and find another class imo

Everything u listed was something they knew about (condi removal / regen in stealth / initiave regain for stacking perma stealth) and the implied threat with stealth is all meant to be in this game since its clearly in the traits and designed to do so. And perma stealth in game that requires you not to stay in stealth to win doesnt seem to be useful unless im creating that sweet spot of damage and stealth regen which is counterable with a simple interrupt which wastes all my imitative mid heartseeker.

So for me to stay in perma stealth means im doing absolutely nothing

and how is that build cheese have u seen s/d play???? im using skill to win what about that is cheese

i posted a edit on the paralyzation sigil if u would have looked…. i run the condi removal sigil instead ofcourse u can use fire or w /e if u want too

I know its not a bug but its not neccessary 450 is bullkitten its hitting at 600+ easy
its a single target attakc that is hitting kitten from a mile away

and obviously auto attack wont get near where im at

http://www.twitch.tv/nosuchthingashalfwaycruuk/b/437879388
http://www.twitch.tv/nosuchthingashalfwaycruuk/b/437872131

Look at this rediculous area of effect on heartseeker.

Im sure alot of thieves love this but for a my stealth build its a nightmare when im hitting things from a mile away and taking me out of stealth. its bad enough that pets pathing runs them directly into my black powder after im stealth for a few secs i dont need to worry about a 600 range heartseeker hitting them and messing up my combo

Would love it if Anet reduced the area of effect of this attack

jmatb.6307:

Make a blooper reel of ppl doing that hahahaha

10:30 / 13:30 / 23:10 / 24:50 / 1:01:10 / 1:04:15

Notice the one game we do win is when no one ever pushes far 40:00 – 48:00 only took about 7 min

http://www.twitch.tv/nosuchthingashalfwaycruuk/b/436870936

Its probably the most frustrating thing in the game for me to hold 2 people at far point making better team fights for my team. And all the sudden some guy wonders over to far point and basically runs into a 1v2 since im normally perma stealth and dies in 5 secs thinking hes helping me when really all hes doing is crutching our team

Thank god i dont give a kitten about leaderboards and i can just /sit and lol at him as he dies.

I made a new guild name called Come farpoint and i will afk [AFK] i just tell people to read my guild name before the match starts and believe it or not people still come far no matter what i tell them

its not evne the interrupted im that annoyed with although it is annoying. Its more the having to spam spells twice to get them to work. Which is frustrating when your playing a game that punishes you for doing this

its not an easy build to play what so ever. So i can see why people dont give it a chance and try and trash talk it like isylvir but the skill cap is going to be much better than any other spec imo once you get it down. s/d Just isnt that great anymore to be honest with the condi meta. Even jumpers team tried getting him to run my spec.

Also soldiers ammy is really good in this spec as long as ur not facing a heavy condi team its prolly better to start out with soldier ammy with beserker jewel in it then once u get used to the playstyle u can switch to beserker to get more damage

Just thought id see if other people are getting annoyed at this.

You get immobilized and your forced to spam your spells twice to get them to work.

Its especially annoying for me cause sometimes the immobilize wares off and it does the heartseeker twice shooting me into something removing my stealth

http://intothemists.com/guides/5-cruuks_decapitation_build

Shadow arts is actually the best for farpoint assualt imo

This build can beat anything 1v1 and has the ability to survive against 1v2-3-4-5 if needed

Its also got the biggest burst as far as thief builds go (well 10/30/30 does but this is close)

Also does really well single target damage in teamfights since you can backstab over and over compared to the 25/30/0/0/15 builds that cna only burst once and then run away and hide up top with shortbow. You also have cleave with pistol whip or shortbow if u wanna run that instead

As far as stealth and the capping of points if your fighting a squishy then dont worry about the point and go for the kill
if your fighting a tankier class just hold the nute with black powders until they send 1 back to help

Btw if a thief isnt running shadow trap and a 1v2 spec they arent doing it right anymore imo

The thief role has changed with shadow trap whether they like it or not.

It honestly BLOWS MY MIND how people can be so completely oblivious to simple rotations in this game. ITS JUST MATH PEOPLE 1st GRADE MATH if u send 2 people to kill a boss and 2 ppl to mid what do u thinks going to happen! A 2v4 Thats what then u just funnel in like D-Day and get Kitten on.

The Sad part is i see this with rank 50-60s all the time ud think people would understand this after a year of playing nonstop

Not to mention PATIENCE people HAVE NONE OF IT!!! REGROUP FOR GOD SAKES 15 secs will save u 3 mins of funneling in 1 by 1

HEY WE JUST WIPED MID NOW WHAT DO WE DO?

Moron 1 – HEY LETS GO PUSH FAR and 3v5 THEM

Moron 2 – THAT SOUNDS KITTEN GREAT!!!!! LETS DO IT!!!

45 secs later they have a triple cap…….

Moron 1 – I think we lost because of the warrrior on our team lets boot him

Moron 2 – Ya F that guy kick him

So basically they new they were op before this last patch and many of the top necros were telling Anet that even they wanted a nerf lol.

So what does Anet do?
BUFF THEM MORE LOL!!

Get it together anet

This is why everyone quit this game a few weeks after release.

False advertising

I know how Anet loves to Ninja patch things so just making sure u guys remember to tell us wat that patch was

Pretty sure they added the 4 sec reveal for WvW since u literally cant touch a thief in wvw with d/d cloak and daggers.

But WvW thieves started Crying and they reversed it and left it in pvp where it didnt need the nerf

I think its a reasonable request after being one of the most complained about class for the sole reason that people dont know how to play and immediately cry when they get hit for more then 50% of there health

But besides that the nerf was intended for d/d in wvw NOT pvp and im still baffled why they mixed up the 2 when reverting wvw back to 3 sec and not pvp

How about throw us some Tools for us to even form a team before you start throwing out 10k team tournies just a thought….

so one question………… how the hell are u ganna get 32 teams lol we barely have 10 teams if that

I seem to remember Anet talking about wanting to bring pvers to pvp

So what is the gameplan?

TO DO THE COMPLETE OPPOSITE DUH!!!!

Why would we ever want to bring our money makers into PVP when we could bring our non money makers into PVE

The fact is they Dont want pvers to pvp and anyone in Anet saying otherwise is either
A.) lying to you or
B.) doesnt have the power to do so

The bigger pvp gets the less money they get in thier pockets
they want to keep pvp as casual as possible so ppl will stick with pve

anyways i hope ppl see the reality here before they ban this post for telling the truth

Sry to bust ur bubble but Anet doesnt want PVErs to come to PVP that loses them money

All in all would be amazing

i know man wtf that was hilarous

Also Its not as much about the Skins for pvpers as it is about our community being too small and them saying they want to create plans to build the pvp community by bringing pvers to pvp but then do the complete opposite

This plan could have been used to bring pvers to pvp by adding gear you can only get from doing well in pvp but as you can see they didnt

How do think the ELO system and leaderboard is going to work with only 10 teams MAX right now and soo few ppl playing pvp the issue is the small community which they clearly dont care about as this patch tells us

We see it over and over and over again rank 50 teams getting match up agasint rank 20 teams only because the ELO System cant find a fair match for us cause there is no one quing up

This results in new pvpers trying to have fun but getting smashed by far better teams and Good teams not getting the competition they desire
Thats what PVP is Competition and THIS GAME HAS NONE OF IT

Its sad we have to give up our freedom of speech in order to play their game

“Those who desire to give up freedom in order to gain security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one. " Benjamin Franklin

I feel ashamed giving up my freedom of speech in order to play a game but at the same time its blasphamy that they can even put this in their terms and agreements in the first place just so they can removes threads like these that actually expose their BS

I seem to remember you guys talking about wanting to bring pvers to pvp

So what is the gameplan?

TO DO THE COMPLETE OPPOSITE DUH!!!!

Why would we ever want to bring our money makers into PVP when we could bring our non money makers into PVE

The fact is they Dont want pvers to pvp and anyone in Anet saying otherwise is either
A.) lying to you or
B.) doesnt have the power to do so

anyways i hope ppl see the reality here before they ban this post for telling the truth (which they have already…. they say it was because i used all caps haha priceless)

Ps anyone wanna sell a wildstar beta key? i hear they actually care about the 1%ers

i spent my glory on Dyes cause at least can make some gold off that that i can downgrade to gems

Even though i already spend all of my glory and would be pretty mad that i got the shaft on this whole deal id still want this to go through cause whatever glory i get now after they add something better to get with glory could atleast be useful

Heres an idea tho why not have a new currency that tallies up all the glory uve ever got and use that as a way to get new rewards
that way the people who already spent there glory dont get screwed for doing so when they add a better reward for it

although ppl would still be stuck with their massive amounts of glory that is useless….

HELLLLLLLLL NNAWWWWWWW

ANet u wanna comment on this please? Maybe you are working on something? You guys should atleast let us know whats going on cause to be honest i dont see the gw2 community running things very well.

Id be surprised to get a dev in here tho

worth a shot….

i say we go kitten up the PR department

So i’m just curious why players have to do all the work setting up tournies Leagues?

didn’t Anet say they were gonna set up daily/weekly/monthly tournaments with prizes?

I know gw1 had them why cant Gw2 shouldn’t the next step from gw1 be creating a better pvp environment not a worse one? What ever happend to once we get the ball rolling lots of thing will come …. well i think the ball has rolled to china and back by now

Kind of confused why they are just sitting back doing nothing while the game dies more as usual that’s all

Ps – i hate qqing but apparently they need to hear these things

careful linking ur build around jumper he tends to talk kitten on them

Hes too afraid to even 2v1 me with caed

Btw its funny how u have to talk trash about me in ur own interview it shows how threatend u are by me its funny and sad at the same time

ppl like you make the community worse by trash talking everyones builds and strats why dont u just shut ur mouth and let ppl play what they like instead of trying to make ur e peeen bigger by trying to be the meta

Sure ppls builds might not seem good at first glance but if u build ur team comp around it and sinergize it becomes viable

Thats what this game is supposed to be about NOT having only 1 meta for strats and builds and you and others spreading this crap just ruins the game

u cant even handle team fights anymore necros kitten u what are u talking about my does great in both team fights and far node

Builds aside tho u trashed talkd my strat and now here u are running it and prolly tryign to tell ppl its your own after trashing me with it for months

funny how u and other ppl have been trashing me on doing this since the beginning and now everything thief is doing it… sure u can say now we have shadow trap, but as u can see how he doesnt use it once for a decap, that it works without it …

Ps i told u so

love , cruuk

1 word

INCENTIVE

Incentive has been gw2’s problem since the beginning and they have yet to do anything about it imo

leaderboards dont mean kitten (period)

ok well im waiting on ur video now Btw this is a soldiers ammy burst not a beserker i thought id make it interesting

as far as tanky chars go the only class i cant kill thats tanky is either a BM ranger or Bunker ele… Both of which i can hold nute forever agasint until they bring someone back to help. And as long as im holding a point nute its an even 4v4 at mid and we have the advantage

also when someone does come back to help he falls right into my trap of me leaving a port at far and killing him along to mid while his friend has to sit and watch or else its another free decap

Not to mention i can get a second backstab off with 22 might stacks with the 10 sec durration on my might
: )

thank you archer someone has a brain

Btw anyone whos interseted the backpoint thief is working swimmingly

Im callin it right now Meta will be far point thief home point theif and proboly double necro gaurd mid

i love this notion that if you arent a 25/30/0/0/15 thief that you do no damage

its prob. the most ignorant thing ive ever heard especially when im going to have the ability to have a thieves guild every fight considering i can drop a ambush immediatly after they pop the first one

I run a 10/30/30/0/0 spec in pvp and i promise u i will burst more than any other thief in the game and the reason is because of the might stacks you get in 25 into shadow arts im able to stack 10 migh stacks from stealth and pop 2-3 sigs for 20-25 might stacks which will do more damage then any other 25/30/0/0/15 back stab EVEN WHEN IM SOLDIERS AMMY considering im always critting from stealth

and to say that perma stealth is useless is also a joke considering you obv dont perma stealth u just stack enough stealth to ur liking its very helpful in removing condi/healing/stacking might/sustaining your initiative/ and VERY useful in the fact that you can play mind games with ppl on where your going

only a noob would cancel a trip wire with a pistol whip ur better off auto attacking then pistol whiping after the idea is to lock down anyone before they can aoe ur thieves down

the only reason its so strong is because u can redrop traps immediatly after they pop one

not to mention the buff to the vuln 2 trait in deadly strikes which should keep 25 vuln on ppl while u destroy them with cc’s

dodgeroll doesnt work on shadow trap / ambush it only works on tripwire and that will be hidden somewhere on the point they wont notice

ya that would be true but the shadow trap is a on use / or trigger trap now after patch so that doesnt matter if they dont trigger it and they will most likely trigger the other traps on point while fighting me

im hoping i can lock them down before they can do anything or even get onto the node

ya exactly the thief pop will tell me whats going to happen and the port is right after it followd by the trip wire on the far point of the node so its port back theives guild daze replace traps and gg

and the ele and engi wont stand a chance with the dazes/scorp wires/tripwire/ and s/p stuns

Heres the Back point thief build im working on if anyone is interestd

20/20/0/30/0
2/3
3/10
5/9/10

This is a triple trap build for post patch

the role will be to lay down all 3 traps which you will be able to leave on the point and go mid once someone triggers the shadow trap u will port back with 10 might stacks stleath and fury they will then trigger the other 2 stun and ambush trap which u with then relay down 2 more of the same which is a total of 5 traps procd which will give them 25 vuln. u can then pop thieves guild and you will have 4 thieves out to destroy anyone who decides to fight you

runes will be ogre 6/6
soldier ammy with beserker jewel
s/p(rage/force) or s/d and sb(fire) as weapon sets
utilities wil be shadow trap/ambush trap/tripwire or needle trap
and thieves guild for elite

You will dominate anything and everything that comes to fight u 1v1