Guild Wars 2

People were Farming the grubs that spawn from Giants. They would purposely keep the Giants alive so he would spawn waves of Grubs so they could farm the Grubs. It was an exploit. And as I said in the other Thread about this…

I honestly do not understand why some of you kids even play MMO’s anymore. A company should make a game just for people like you.

Already Max Level

Already all the best Items

All Bank/Bag Space Opened and Filled with the best Bags

You don’t have to ever Farm anything as you can place an order for it, with the Gold you recieve Daily in the sum of <You wont be able to spend it all if you tried>

The game would be cheap as there would be no need for Content, after all, you’ve already cleared that Content before your character was even made. You have all the gear from all the hardest raids. Welcome to your glorified chat room.

A Game like I described would be an awesome addition to those who feel like they shouldn’t have to “work” for anything in a MMO.

I honestly do not understand why some of you kids even play MMO’s anymore. A company should make a game just for people like you.

Already Max Level

Already all the best Items

All Bank/Bag Space Opened and Filled with the best Bags

You don’t have to ever Farm anything as you can place an order for it, with the Gold you recieve Daily in the sum of <You wont be able to spend it all if you tried>

The game would be cheap as there would be no need for Content, after all, you’ve already cleared that Content before your character was even made. You have all the gear from all the hardest raids. Welcome to your glorified chat room.

A Game like I described would be an awesome addition to those who feel like they shouldn’t have to “work” for anything in a MMO.

I think it has to do with being older, or atleast more mature. I know when I was younger I often thought it as silly, and nerdy/dorky as you would have it. Now being “older” I embrace the dorkiness.

On my Char Guardian, I ran up to a downed player and said, “There, there son. Relax while I bandage your wounds”

He Replied with “Thank you” when he got up he called me a dumbkitten and ran off.

Yawn- Maya Calendar didn’t factor in Leap years.

VormundGeist.3876:

Failsociety.4569:

VormundGeist.3876:

Failsociety.4569:

Amen brother! XIV is kickingkitten and simply cannot wait til Reborn. I still play as well on Besaid!

My character is based in Gungir or however you spell it.
Regardless I hope XIVs Devs are keeping a close eye on GW2s game mechanics, they may be able to learn some lessons and give some of the good ideas a ‘Final Fantasy’ spin

Honestly, been playing MMOs for about 11 years now, I am 31. If XIV doesn’t fit my bill (which been playing since Alpha even in it’s crap state til now) I think it’s time to put aside the genre altogether. They just don’t make good games like old EQ, XI anymore.

I am more then certain we will be pleased with 2.0 after having our senses dulled to a blunt point for the last two years of the current game

Hah, I haven’t minded much. Ifrit, Moogle, Garuda fights were all pretty epic. Granted the hardest thing about them being the server lag, but epic non-the-less. My Linkshell is awesome and the community is something I have always loved about FF games.

Yikes, I cannot explain, but.. I’m sorry for your lose if that means anything.

Hahah stomping you guys in WvW, Dragonbrand style! Much love though, I enjoy the epic fights between us <3

(I’m really joking, but have had many fun hours of rampages between TC, M’guuma (lol forget the name) and Dragonbrand.

Edit: lol Guess I should read it all, I enjoy RP but, not so much on games like this. NWN, NWN2 ect, I love it. Sadly Bioware should have invested in a great NWN game instead of that “other” failure. (And the one being created by Perfect World is a joke. I loathe PW with a passion.)

VormundGeist.3876:

Failsociety.4569:

Amen brother! XIV is kickingkitten and simply cannot wait til Reborn. I still play as well on Besaid!

My character is based in Gungir or however you spell it.
Regardless I hope XIVs Devs are keeping a close eye on GW2s game mechanics, they may be able to learn some lessons and give some of the good ideas a ‘Final Fantasy’ spin

Honestly, been playing MMOs for about 11 years now, I am 31. If XIV doesn’t fit my bill (which been playing since Alpha even in it’s crap state til now) I think it’s time to put aside the genre altogether. They just don’t make good games like old EQ, XI anymore.

Amen brother! XIV is kickingkitten and simply cannot wait til Reborn. I still play as well on Besaid!

Edit: Vangaurd one of the best MMO’s out there. Really only a few great MMO’s even to date. (imo) XI (Although abyssea makes me sad) XIV (Haters going to hate, one of the few games along with XI that doesn’t follow the standard WoW crap genre) and Vangaurd. (No real words to explain it, the game is huge and beautiful with a great system. EQ style)

Thing is, Anet didn’t sell you a defective car, you just bought the wrong car for you.

Smackjack.5071:

I am quite serious. I’ve always used a controller in almost every MMO I have played besides in PvP. As I started in XI for 7 years, you get used to it. Xpadder allows you to map all your keys and it’s rather enjoyable to actually be able to sit back in my comfykitten chair or lay on my bed and play.

The fact that you have to admit that it is not good/effective enough in pvp also means you are less effective on the gamepad on PvE compared to your K/M combo, i would not want you in my dungeon run to be honest.

why were you looking at that wall instead of dodging and hitting that boss???

Answer

I was turning all that time to face him !!111

With a gamepad in a game were 99.9% use a K/M setup you are simply never quick and accurate to turn and look around losing mobility and awareness. It might work for you in Solo PvE to a degree (forget about doing those higher level mobs you could be handling otherwise) but in group PvE you are simply a liability ,dead weight that needs to be carried and in PvP you may as well be the enemy.

Even communicating in chat during a dungeon run is a compromised by it.

Lay down gamepad
move hands to keyboard on desk
Type
Pick up the gamepad again to continue playing

Seriously if you want to play a MMO and you choose/prefer to do it with a gamepad you are doing it wrong and not just a little bit.

How many times have you used a controller? I assume 0, because you have no clue what you’re talking about. You’re trying to tell me because in PvP since I tend to use my keyboard, BECAUSE Players are not AI, you wouldn’t want me in your dungeon group? Honestly, I wouldn’t want to be in your dungeon group. You sound terrible and I could most likely run circles around you in any dungeon, pvp, with or without a controller.

PS: As for communication, I don’t pug with scrubs. I hot key my Vent to my controller.

EDIT: Usually it is I who does the carrying sir. I will gladly give you a piggy back ride anyday, cause I’m a gentleman like that.

I would agree with you, OP, if the game had been out for 6 months or so. The public should have no say in what the game should be like until Anet has fully flushed out what they would like the game to be. After 6 months, most bugs/exploits should be fixed and they should have the game where they want it. At that point, sure then perhaps take suggestions and work on listening to your playerbase.

Also by waiting, you allow a certain crowd to leave (which would leave anyways even if you did everything they wanted) and keep the game Anets loyal fanbase would like.

Really? I think I have run into maybe 3-4 bugs my entire 300+ hours. And most of the Balance issues come from bad players fighting good players. Doesn’t matter how OP they make a class, if you’re a terrible gamer, you’re a terrible gamer. (Not refering to you, in general)

PS: I am sorry you feel cheated. I on the other hand have def got my 60$ worth for something I knew was going to turn out just like it did.

LOL kitten no! World of Warcraft is for the mucho younger genre of MMO players these days, and it seems instead of Blizzard evolving and maturing, they are taking the opposite route. I really don’t understand how anyone over 17 can enjoy it, and I am not talking about the graphics. The over all game is dumbed down for the masses.

Blizzard as a company constantly berates it’s player base, by insulting them. “We feel our player cannot handle challenge, also we hold there hands because without us to do so, they would be completely lost” CEO of Blizzard: Our players aren’t the best, but they sure are suckers.

PS: Enjoy your Panda’s and Pokemon.
(I mostly joke, if you enjoy WoW, that’s great! Not my cup of tea.)

On top of having two ways to remove his boons, one which turns all his boons into negative effects and another that adds a ton on top of his boons, I can then spread them around to anyone who is having a pic-nik with the Gaurdian. Essentially, I turn the Guardian into a walking cesspool of diseases. Its fun <3 (Ps: I love my Guardian too! Fun classes)

As my Necro, I have no problems making them die, very quickly actually.

I am quite serious. I’ve always used a controller in almost every MMO I have played besides in PvP. As I started in XI for 7 years, you get used to it. Xpadder allows you to map all your keys and it’s rather enjoyable to actually be able to sit back in my comfykitten chair or lay on my bed and play.

My motivation: The game is fun, I got my 60 bucks worth for sure, and WvWvW/sPvP is fun. I enjoyed all of the End Game 1-80, as well.. There is simply nothing better on the market atm.

a) World of Warcraft

b) Rapidly Slamming Head on Desk

(a)——————————|——————————(b)
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Did I do it right?

It is a great game within it’s own aspects. Has a lot going for it. Most of the crying will calm down here shortly after the new form of Pokemon comes out. Some of the complaint’s are valid, others are just to complain to complain, because that is all a certain crowd does. Move to new game > Destroy new game with crying > Return to old game > Loyal Fans of New game are crushed because there once good game is now garbage like the other game.

He won’t get banned for this. I’ve done this for almost every MMO I played.

Although I find it slightly annoying, I enjoy things like this. It reminds me of the good ol days when MMOrpgs were scary. Like Walking into The Crawlers Nest (XI) to find 25 Angry Crawlers ready to eat your face, and two seconds later you were eating dirt.

Ubung.7423:

Failsociety.4569:

Ang.2157:

deriver.5381:

For God’s sake, please stop asking for core mechanics to change. The no trinity thing is here to stay.

That being said, what they do have to do is to fine tune the fights to better accommodate the reality of this game. The word “chaotic” will always be somewhat of a constant here, although organized groups can reduce it considerably.

The no trinity experiment was a failure.
They can still fix it and add some real endgame raids.

Nope, the player base has failed because it cannot grasp the fact that you cannot have one person for some reason, able to hold the Enemies attention, while you stand around smashing your rotation. Happy to say, it’s not going to happen, and really, there is no need. If you feel the need for the HT, I can list off a good 30+ MMOs that have such a thing.

EDIT: Raids would be awesome, they could totally make raids out doors with huge Enemies and lots of peopl….. Oh wait..

Tbh so far ive quite enjoyed the style of play. But then im a defense specced guardian so im pretty much a tank right now. I dont know, id have to see really organised play at 80 (Still waiting for my guildies to hit max lvl and do the explorables).

I gotta disagree with your statement regarding raids. The DE’s do not even come close to being challenging enough to be an alternative to a raid. If you get enough people together to fill a raid then your just gonna zerg that DE boss down with no problems whatsoever. I think this games would benefit greatly form some sort of large scale pve content thats actually hard.

An idea ive mentioned in other threads is to have 10 / 20 man versions of the current dungeons that reward the same tokens.

Problem with this is, you will have these same people come back and cry about needing a HT because the Boss just wiped 8 of 10 people with one move that you HAVE to dodge. If “we” had the HT, it would have only been the Tank and maybe a few Melee DPS!!

Edit: I am in 100% Agreement that Dynamic Events need to be more scripted toward other actions other then sitting around doing next to nothing. As the previous poster above me stated, there is plenty of good ways to make out door DE’s much better and I fully agree.

berries.7016:

Failsociety.4569:

The moment your friend said anything about WoW, you should have laughed and dicredited him.

All I heard was “World of Warcrafts dungeons are super easy and reward you with tons of epixx lewts. Guild War2 Dungeons are hard, and you can’t just faceroll everything. Also, WTH no +10000 stats on the gear?! Seriously?! Its just for Vanity?! WTF!!”

You should get your hearing checked, or get a pair of reading glasses. You are just using your own already set opinion about it and commented just to express that as a fact. It’s really sad when responses drag down to this level.

Sad as it might be, it is no more sad then comparing what it should be to a game that is totally different in mindset. Forgive me if my “Reading Glasses” are fogged up after reading so much garbage around those same lines I posted. His friend supposedly left, because Guild Wars Dungeons aren’t as fun and streamlined as World of Warcrafts. Who cares, I think they are fun. Hell in fact I actually have to keep my eyes open to succeed.
And Technique? Really? You know the hardest part about raiding is finding 10-25 competent people that understand what it means to get the kitten out of the fire? Learning same routined scripted fights?

Just farmed some low level crafting materials. Got 3 Greens and 1 rare 74-80’ish. In Queens.

Ang.2157:

Failsociety.4569:

Ang.2157:

deriver.5381:

For God’s sake, please stop asking for core mechanics to change. The no trinity thing is here to stay.

That being said, what they do have to do is to fine tune the fights to better accommodate the reality of this game. The word “chaotic” will always be somewhat of a constant here, although organized groups can reduce it considerably.

The no trinity experiment was a failure.
They can still fix it and add some real endgame raids.

Nope, the player base has failed because it cannot grasp the fact that you cannot have one person for some reason, able to hold the Enemies attention, while you stand around smashing your rotation. Happy to say, it’s not going to happen, and really, there is no need. If you feel the need for the HT, I can list off a good 30+ MMOs that have such a thing.

And those 30+ MMOs have it just for lulz? Maybe they have it because it actually works!
The trinity haters are starting to feel like hipsters who don’t care that their new system is flawed as long as it is different from other MMOs.

I don’t hate the Trinity, it just has no place here. You and a few vocal others can’t seem to get that out of your skulls. Luckily however, ArenaNet will NOT change this, and I can promise that. So either this is a huge deal breaker for you, and you can head back to whatever Holy Trinity Game you came from, or you can learn to adapt and realize even without the Holy Trinity, good players manage quite well.

Ang.2157:

deriver.5381:

For God’s sake, please stop asking for core mechanics to change. The no trinity thing is here to stay.

That being said, what they do have to do is to fine tune the fights to better accommodate the reality of this game. The word “chaotic” will always be somewhat of a constant here, although organized groups can reduce it considerably.

The no trinity experiment was a failure.
They can still fix it and add some real endgame raids.

Nope, the player base has failed because it cannot grasp the fact that you cannot have one person for some reason, able to hold the Enemies attention, while you stand around smashing your rotation. Happy to say, it’s not going to happen, and really, there is no need. If you feel the need for the HT, I can list off a good 30+ MMOs that have such a thing.

EDIT: Raids would be awesome, they could totally make raids out doors with huge Enemies and lots of peopl….. Oh wait..

Ang.2157:

Failsociety.4569:

Luckily there is no Melee strcitly classes. Everyone has a ranged weapon. use it.

Guardian.

Mace

Luckily there is no Melee strcitly classes. Everyone has a ranged weapon. use it.

I always get Greens + Rares around my level. It’s only blue that seem to dip far below or are the areas level. But blues are garbage anyways.

The moment your friend said anything about WoW, you should have laughed and dicredited him.

All I heard was “World of Warcrafts dungeons are super easy and reward you with tons of epixx lewts. Guild War2 Dungeons are hard, and you can’t just faceroll everything. Also, WTH no +10000 stats on the gear?! Seriously?! Its just for Vanity?! WTF!!”

Kimhyuna.1035:

Most of the more serious complaints are quite true and on he money.

Although some have minor merit to them. Most of the complaints I have seen, I have seen in every MMO’s release to date. It is usually by the same community that gets content dumbed down, then they leave back to said game, kitten over anyone who enjoyed the game previously.

Adzy.8370:

OP has a point. the game has not been tested thoroughly at all (dungeons and end-game content make this obvious) and now they release patches which haven’t been tested at all either. this is also obvious because of the sheer amount of patches they have released within a short amount of time. they are making things worse rather than better at the moment.

Sheer amount of Updates? You mean because they do there updates in smaller patches instead of 7 hours long maint’s a week they are doing something obviously wrong? I much prefer this way. So far they have done a very good job at fixing the problems. Being able to nab full exotics from dungeon runs in a couple days and making mass amounts of gold is a problem.

Crucifer.2831:

LOL I bet there are people out there who said this about SWTOR in its first month too…and look at those same people now….counting down the last hours of that games existence.

If one this is true in todays market is you do not peave off MMO customers anymore, too many choices, and WoW always a back drop to return too.

MMO customers are fickle. We don’t like mistakes, and we surely don’t like things that are detrimental to our experiences when we do not have those same issues back in the comfort of Azeroth.

If you want to fight for market share in this market the first thing you need to fight for is your players…patches / changes like the one last night was not in the favor of the players. It was a ridiculous attempt to make the game harder, and in turn they went way overboard without consulting the players on a PTR environment.

In the end there is countless bad business practices for this industry that were voided last night…and instead of an apology and rollback and a re-thinking of how to move forward with content changes like last night they told us “Deal with it.”

That is not how things should be handled and Blizzard would never tell their customers “Deal with it.” when a change clearly is the wrong change.

It’s funny when you know someone came from World Of warcraft from just reading a few sentences. The game’s community is the butt of every MMO joke, and for good reason.

You missed the point that GW1 was roughly the same and did very well.

It’s not a big deal. I don’t understand why people are crying over not being able to get full dungeon exotics in a few days. I didn’t do the speed clears/exploits and honestly I don’t care. It took me a whole 6 hours to farm up mats for my crafted set, which guess what, has roughly the same stats as the dungeon set.

PS: When you see tons of people wearing “one set” of dungeon exotics, you KNOW something is wrong.

If you bought it from ArenaNet Digital Standard then no, not really sure how collectors and all that works.

AeNet already Nerfed one of the ways people were making stupid amounts of money. Another one I know of I don’t think has been nerfed but I can’t say anything about it as the Thread I had seen about it got deleted sometime ago.

On my Necro it is usually pretty close 1v1, but I have tons of toughness and high HP + good damage/enfeebles.

Weeee Dances around because this is another useless thread To those against raiding and whatnot (which raiding is fine and dandy but raiding has been dead since, what EQ? Sorry, there is no raiding in the “other game” unless you consider having 10-25 idiots avoiding fire and scripted fights challenging) why argue about it? AeNet is NOT going to introduce Raids to GW2. Guild Wars 1 wasn’t about raiding and did extremely well, GW2 is everything GW1 was and more.

There was many “easy” ways to make gold. You either took advantage of the system or you didn’t. Still ways to make easy gold as well…

Fox.1054:

The only thing which reminds me of that game is the awful state dungeons are in now, but here the junk mobs take even longer than in D3. I hope they will ever make it more of a skill based experience than a grind based experience.

Did someone refer to Diablo III? Diablo III is a kitten terrible game, but it was made by the same people who created World of Warcraft so no big surprise there, but in general GW2 does share a bit of the Diablo series in a whole. Besides WoWablo III

It does in a very small way remind me of the Diablo Series. Which, GW1 didn’t for some reason… I wonder what it is about GW2…

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To catch them is my real test
To train them is my cause

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Each Pokemon to understand
The power that’s inside

Pokemon, its you and me
I know it’s my destiny
Pokemon, oh, you’re my best friend
In a world we must defend

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Horrible.

World of Warcraft is a horrible game to base anything off of. The game caters to the easily amused, instant gratification vs actually putting work into crowd. Sure, it has numbers, numbers that have been steadily dwendling, guess what? So does Farmville, and Farmville is a kitten horrible game too.

Guild Wars 2 isn’t hard in the slightest, it does have a challenge factor to it and anyone I know that doesn’t come from WoW seem to enjoy them. (That may not be the case for everyone) Anytime I hear any sort of complaint it is always followed by “Well, in WoW”. Right there, STOP! You lost all credibility. Panda’s and Pokemon that way. I could never understand how so many people give Blizzard so much credit when the company berates your intelligence constantly by “dumbing” things down for you.

Farming my full exotic set for 400 Tailoring took me about 9 hours total. Trying to get my Relic Weapon in old XI took me almost 2 years. Not to mention I think Tailoring is the hardest of the Crafts for the 400 exotics. I know Armorsmithing is a joke, hell guildie finished his set before me and he started later. (90% of the crap I farmed myself except for Gossamer Cloth)

lol I know several people who re-bought the book… Do people not read at all? It is about a Silver or Two cheaper then a Long Distance Way Point Tele.

The problem with listening to the player base is, a huge % of this player base comes from a certain game. A certain game in which I play other games to get away from teh horrible crap which is that game. They move onto games like this destroy them and then head back to said game.

Sure they can listen to the playerbase who will kitten and cry over stupid things until it gets changed, but in the end, they only hurt themselves and thier loyal fanbase when doing so.

Look at most of these “Holy Trinity” threads, almost every thread dealing with such has a certain game labled in it. I would like ArenaNet to listen to it’s loyal player base, and not so much the other crowd as they will be moving back to thier other game anyways.

Thank god this game isn’t that big bag of trash formally known as World of Warcrap.

I normally hate Under water fighting in most MMO’s. I can’t say I love it in GW2, but I do enjoy it. They did extremely well on it, that and the beautiful scenery I am sure help.. Stab stab stab….. oOo Preeeetty.. Stab stab