Guild Wars 2

grindy kinda comes with the genre period if by hunting and killing mobs is grind to you then well time to find a linear game to play.

its a gw2 the game mechanics are in place they may add a few things on top of them and thats about it dont expect a whole new game thats just over expecting stuff. we the fans love gw2 because its gw2.

Danikat.8537:

I agree.

I’ve now got 3 characters doing the HoT maps and it’s really frustrating having to pass keys around between them all the time.

they do have share inventory spot now what i use works perfect too

its about immersion too not all players are tunnel visioning through lvls.

Ragnarox.9601:

Gw2 sales dropping? They lie! Everything is perfect here, community is great, game is great, expansion is great, everything is great and there are endless rivers of honey and milk in game too.

/turned off sarcasm

As I said before, this expansion is not worth 45€ atm (feel bad for those that spent 100€). They hyped us with so much content and everything and we got gem shop expansion with nerfed core game rewards. Esports failed, balance failed, wvw borders are dead except EB. Only few armors that are obtainable through game. PVP is crap now, should I continue?…

Graphics of the expansion is one thing that is positive to me, praise to the graphic dev team. And some elite specs….

Very unhappy customer.

whats to be sarcastic about ive seen more life in the game since the xpac and the xpac isnt even done yet they havnt even started the living story stuff they already stated the big patches wont start hitting till after the new years. So its hardly a fail.

Swagger.1459:

IndigoSundown.5419:

Swagger.1459:

IndigoSundown.5419:

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I gave specific examples of the pieced together development by what we see being implemented. There is no speculating… Fact that we have a mini raid and no legendary armor to even view is not a speculation. Nor is 1 wvw map while the rest of wvw is in production. Nor profession neglect that has been pointed out many times in and out of these forums… Those are facts… And that’s where “cost efficiency” come into play…

You are asking us to conclude with you that “cost efficiency” is the issue behind your observations. You’ve not looked at other possible issues that may have produced the effects. Thus, your analysis is flawed. Flawed analysis means suspect conclusions.

MMO developers failing to provide everything that MMO consumers might want at the pace those consumers prefer is the state of the genre. It certainly is not something unique to GW2. Nor is it new with regard to GW2. There have been complaints about GW2 content provision, lack of new profession mechanics, lack of attention to WvW, etc. since very shortly after the game launched. I’m sure that costs are a factor in that dynamic, but this is not something new.

Anet’s financial resources from ncsoft are too low and then spread too thin. That’s the main problem. This game deserves a very hefty injection of cash from the masters. Until then, it’s going to be continuous patchwork quilting on every project… That’s a problem.

I believe GW2 has the potential to be the number 1 flagship game for ncsoft. It needs a big cash boost…

ncsoft has little to do with development of gw2 they simply publish it.anet flagship game maybe but not ncsofts.

im enjoying it period peopel and their addiction to pixalated items and points is getting old now go have fun quit worrying about the freakin points and items good god already.

way too early to be making loong winded posts on raid content because well its a new thing and chances are it will change over time.Like everything else though i agree but patience.

and as a gamer that stuff really none of our buisness and i think anet should take it down no need to spread negative morale around true or not.Thats their buisness and their employees and any future employee’s not the players not the customers buisness,

That doesnt mean anything most the people were positive or equal if you were too look up any company for employee reviews you would see the same exact thing.They are employees whom mostly like to moan just like we players do but they moan because they have to work and they have to do what they are told by the bosses. Anyone who’s had a job has had the same exact thoughts on their managment at one point.

The raid isnt time consuming its just hard and its a 10 man anyways thats hardly on league with the other game 20 and 40 man raids. Only one raid right now so just give them time to fine tune them to how they and we want them.

they kinda called achievments for a reason.If yuor forced to replay a mission so be it its a ACHIEVMENT.

really your gonna hyberbole start this thread anets current track record? where the heck are you getting your facts at? you can get the other seasons by spending gems and gems can be earned by playing the game not very hard plus early seasons where free if you logged in during the time they ran living world was supose to be one time events to begin with but enough people cried because it wasnt fair that they had to put life on hold or they had real life stuff to do so they missed it anyways. Just be happy they gave us the option of buying the once upon a time limited events,

You guys sound like the game is over and not being developed anymore.lol just chillax im sure more of all that will get added overtime .

yeah they do have hooks ever go to a store they put the side stacks in the middle of aisles for what we who work in retail like to call for compulsive buyers it is a practice to get that extra buck gem store is no diffrent they toss stuff in the promotion windows to try and get you to buy it compulsivly. Its retail still in game or not.

Anet may be free to play but they are still in a buisness and thats to make money 1.they have to fund the game 2.these guys are working and payroll doesnt fill it self im sure they want to eat and survive.3.Ive yet to be forced to pay for anything most stuff in the dang gem shop is cosmetic or just convienence items.Not that hard to gind some gems.

Yeah they are hard they are meant too if they get to difficult bring someone with you im sure out the million or so players you can find a friend who willing to help it is a mmo after all.And fun thing is i dont even thing they have to own the seasons they can still come along.Nothing to get frusterated about neither not meant to be easy cant expect hand holding.

PaxTheGreatOne.9472:

The deluxe Gw2 edition? you got a pet rytlock, cd with all music and a book with it. and all other stuff form the deluxe digitals, in a nice box. I got a mail with a serial code for 75 euro.

for the 100 euro HoT you get 4000 gems and basicly all other stuff you got from the 75 euro version…. which is a mini and a glider more then the 50 euro version.

BtW

Gw2 Tyria (now F2P)

• dungeons,
• fractals,
• WvW,
• 7 metaevent maps (FoR,HH,SoD,ML,SC,DT,SW),
• all PvP, except 1 map,
• Personal story ~ 40 steps spread on 8 levels
• World bosses
• Living story 2 (8 chapters of 2-4 steps ~25),
• 25 maps and
• 6 cities
• 5 races with
• 8 proffesions holding 5 trait lines each 40 in total.

GW2 HoT (40 -50 euro)

• raids, 1 leg so far. If you do not have max gear, do not bother. ~1000 gold investment to get ready
• 4 metaevent maps on (slow) timers,
• 1 pvp map,
• living story prt 3: 14 story steps
• 2 guild halls which are mosty unaffordable,
• 4 maps
• 0 cities,
• 0 races,
• 1 proffesion and specialisations total of 14 trait lines

You guess what would be the best buy…

For got one important thing just because HoT is released doesnt mean its a done deal like the core game they are gonna build on it as in more than likely more maps and content dungeons more living story thing about gw2 or any other MMO out there just because its released doesnt mean its done it persistant and always improving and evolving as we play.

Jumping puzzles are awesome hard as heck sometimes but we like it plus it gives guildwars its own flavour not every game can be a WoW clone as much as people complain about WoW clones they moan just as much when something come out diffrent.

I think people are frusterated because they came in thinking it was gonna be a hand holding theme park game,which gw2 isnt its got its own style of gameplay either you like it or you dont if you dont not a big issue not like your paying a sub put it on the shelf and watch for changes you may like or not like,take a break go play WoW or some other game .This is guildwars not WoW or everquest.Quit expecting them to change the mechanics because it isnt gonna happen.

Only reward i need is the game it self its fun i socialize with people which surprise is what a mmo is about i adventure around what more can you ask for its not the content that ruin game play its the player ,people are the ones kittentrict themselves branh out a little you would be surprised how fun the game is if you actually immersed yourself into the gameworld.

Chiccotot.7296:

For a new player, I think you will enjoy it.
You are put in a somewhat level-playing-field in terms of people trying to figure out how to do stuff. The only thing vets will have on you are probably the gears and massive amount of gold.

For a veteran, you’ll probably find out that GuildWars2 has turned into GrindWars2. This is what most of the people are complaining about.

All in all, it is good value of one-time payment, instead of a monthly subscription thing

Only a grindfest if you speed through content and run outa stuff to do then again name a mmo that doesnt have grind after your done with content?The grind is progression in the end because you run outa stuff to do i mean what are you expecting a end with some credits rolling not gonna happen only grind if you make it grind go hang out in a hub and socialize hang out in the taverns and listen to the rpers the players are the ones limiting themselves not the devs.Once the living story starts kicking off im sure we will be up and running again i predict that will be after new years though.

My advice is if you newcommer play the core game first leading up to the HoT stuff since it free and there plenty to do in the core game if you enjoy it enough sure support the dev team and buy the expansion it too is fun and just add onto the gameplay. Forget must the complaints because thats all they are complaints.

Gw2 is the best for me because i love the game world its huge so many hidden little caves and underwater stuff i mean alot more than most games and i love the exploration aspect. then i play startrek online for my trekkie needs.

I love how people throw around the word grind now man if you dont like to grind go back to linear console games mmos are not the genre for you sad to say because no matter what something in it will be considered grind. Rememr what you find grind isnt gonna be a grind to others. Let me guess do you get on diablo and complain because its all grind and farming gear? Its the concept behind the game just like here its a concept and a formula that most of us enjoy if you dont enjoy it well not our fault you bought a game and didnt like it.

Opinions are invalid especially when they are not even constructive make a justified opinion nmake sure its constructive then people may listen and take the complainers seriously.

Lunar Sunset.8742:

Tigaseye.2047:

Pezz.4758:

Tigaseye.2047:

Kurogami.9210:

Let’s be honest: ANet included raids because players asked for them. They made HoT harder because players asked for challenging content. They added masteries and hero points because players complained that there wasn’t much left to do once you reach a certain point in the game. Of course ANet made mistakes in the way they implemented these things, but you can’t deny that GW2 becoming more and more like most other 08/15 MMOs is because many players want GW2 to be like other MMOs. This is what happens when developers listen too much to their players.

What I don’t understand is why these devs (not just Anet devs – pretty much ALL devs) STILL don’t seem to get that one type of person’s opinion isn’t, necessarily, as representative of the playbase, as a whole, as another’s.

Surely, they must have noticed, by now, that a certain type of player – let’s call them “hardcore” – tends to comment about games, on the internet, far more often than another type – let’s call them “casual” – ever does.

They MUST have noticed this, surely?!

…and yet, they seem to treat all comments as if they were created equal and are all equally representative of the playerbase make-up, as a whole.

Despite all the mounting evidence to the contrary, all around them…

I just don’t get it.

its not just Anet alot of companies do this
what i dont understand AT ALL is this is the same umbrella company as wildstar

wildstar, i game that MARKETED from day 1 as hardcore old school MMO
FAILED MISERABLY . And now GW2, arguably the most casual friendly, relaxed
no set goal chill out MMO is trying to adopt a more hardcore approach?
if a game strictly marketed as such failed, how did they think the homebase for all the people who left raid games like wow, wildstar FF would fair? i honestly cant even begin to fathom how this was thought to be a good idea.

I know – absolutely.

I was thinking about Wildstar as I wrote that, actually.

I never played it, but from what I understand, it is basically a combination of the least widely popular things from WoW and GW2.

A good combination of WoW and GW2 could (and should) be absolutely amazing.

…and yet, apparently, they managed to get it completely wrong.

Almost, literally, the opposite of what it should have been.

…and then they do the same here? O.o

Bizarre.

Keep your WoW out of my GW2. LOL!

Agreed but its too late these complainer are turning the forums into the wow forums they are almost identical now. I didnt see these forums get so negative untill they decided to make the game free.They really should restrict the forums to the payed vets or something or restrict the threads if they havnt already.Im literally gettin eye cancer from all these negative salty people who need a new past time.

p2w means you are forced to pay i havnt felt a NEED to pay for anything unless i wanted too its NOT VERY HARD to earn gold and turn it into gems its actually easy fairly fun .

Raid is just the new big thing that everyone is clambering to get a piece of thats why the game feels void right now everyone there doin raid once the next update is kicked out people will be pushing for it next with the holidays comming up people will be out roaming the maps again for achievment and whatever goodies are out there for us again. Game literally a kitten ed if you do kitten ed if you dont for anet becasue no matter wth they decide to add part of the community gonna moan about thats just natural i just wish people would learn to stop feeding into the hyperbole posts i see popping up by trolls all over the forums.

I will most the chuckled heads complainin problably havnt even gotten HoT or the core game except when it went free,

Most the compaints are simply sourpuss people is all never happy doesnt matter how great anet does or how bad always gonna have that vocal minority that just moan for attention or because they think they are entitled to everything.No biggy i normally respond anyways although best to just ignore the bantering.

expansions are normally a work in progress and considering its guildwars 2 everything isnt in game yet they not just gonna drop that map and say here boys have fun get bored after awhile the meat of the expansion gonna get pushed out there once the living story starts spinning again.

yeah i dont see a sub for gw at all guildwars was founded on the whole sub free model putting a sub in now would be the end of the game plain and simple.

rewards feel fine to me most those ideas though like the cosmetics they cant remove restrictions this game is funded through the gem shops already cheap as hell as is they are not gonna hang them self by opening up more stuff .

im just gonna smh and walk away.

Good god who started teh phrase gating? Just be patient do something else come back for it.Or as he said ask for help. They not gonna run around and start breaking mechanics they have had sonce day one because a few impatient minorities start complaining.

i didnt know tanks existed in gw2 because of the aggroe mechanics lol.

I love we got raids finally but im now seeing what i feared was gonna happen when they announced the raids there gonna be a major split in the once great community we had.

This game for everyone dude casuals and hardcore players unfortunatly raids are really not all that casualish normally i9t will be nice though if they put some other challenges in for the casuals so they have another way of earnin the legendary armors pretty sure they will come up with something though. And from what i see the raid isnt all that bad hard yes but not as time sinky as games like lets say wow where it will take you 7-8 hours to run a raid instance lol. So casuals can actually get into the action just get into a active guild that has casuals.Not hard people are making it sound more difficult than it really is.

i got like 30 of them suckers from today alone daily boxes and some blacklion boxes ive opened lol

Difficulty has no relation to casual player or hardcore player im about as casual as they come and im not having any issues.Just because your a casual player doesnt mean you are bad or good at the game or you cant progress like everyone else just means you dont put as many hours into the game as some of teh crazy maniacs do.

No sighn the game is failing the game is litreally buy to play people will buy it and the casuals will shelve it and play other stuff and pop in from time to time making it just that casual.Me for example i bout HoT a week ago ive played pretty much 2 or 3 hours so far,why? because im not bein pressured into paying monthly and im in no hurry wth with the ’its failing comments lmao. And also alot of these people are are in some huge guilds they tend to close them selves off to the normal people so you do actually have to find some scheduling im in a guild right now thats got like 1500 people active at everytime of the day its a guild thats actually 3 because it got so large . So just stop with the whole"omg the game is dead" They havnt even kicked off the living story stuff yet once that start hitting the player base will jump back up there again depending where on the maps they do the living stories. Welcome to guildwars. btw.

O god i hope they purge alot of these posts ive never seen such negativity in my 3 years of gw2 its getting crazy i dont know if its because of the free game now or that the WoW community been making the leap over of its either of the two leave ya nagging at the door and enjoy the game withot paying monthly. Good god.

me i give it an 8 because well i enjoy it world is great constant updates are great when they get to rolling if people dont find it fun i havnt a clue why they bother to stick around except to waste their time ranting right now hot is ranked up at the 6th most played and most enjoyed game as of right now so pretty much im sure we are a minority base.

Not a huge issue anet has been really good at listening to the community so long as its constructive though so if enough people tell anet what they like and dont like constructively i wouldnt be surprised if they take the step to make people happy.Keep in mind 90% of these changes are done just because of that the community asks or complains.Since its been like a week or 2 since release give it time for them to read and gather their thoughts on changes. Even so this game mmo wise is definatly worth the money.

reasonable pace? its fine as is good god quit expecting everything to be handed to you progress to it. Its hard and take awhile for a reason we dont need another starwars where people fly through the content get bored and quit like 2 days later because they power gamed through it. Just relax have fun and play take some breaks no pressure your not paying a sub.

Also dont complain about content if you been here since beta you would also no gw2 doesnt throw everything into the patch its a living story therefore they have new content kitten near on a bi to monthly basis also you can leave not a big issue because its not a sub based game so no stress.

I do love guildhalls and all but id like to see them add some kinda player hall/housing like thing the home instances just dont cut it not everyone got time to join guilds primarly because all the big guilds are turning into elitests and dont want you because your too casual.

Mah i dont see hate i love it but like all games that have xpansion packs always gonna be that overly entitled crowd who honestly dont seem to enjoy anything or even lazy for that matter an expansion gives us more content and more gameplay which is what any gamer should want and treasure yet people complain because well they will have to play through more content which imo is what a expansion is content. Easy fix is expansion isnt even required so if you dont like it dont buy it the freaking base game is 100% free now be sure to thank anet for giving everyone a freeby.

stop power gaming easy fix