Guild Wars 2

for 1, that’s more of a support to zerg and 2: I prefer my keeps t3 with wp and i like to take down t3 it gives me a sense of satisfaction, you do that then will almost never have t3 keeps.

I’m talking in general, not just this week but also last week, you guys did atleast 3 golem rushes on cragtop, 2 we stopped and 1 that succeeded cause we were too busy with a 60 man dzago blob on outer south bay wall.

Yes you did, I saw the golems with my own eyes -_-
Several times you or NaZ would golem rush Cragtop…

First of all we attack Dzagonur all the time and we take their keeps many times too.

So don’t think we don’t, we took their more times than they took ours.

Secondly: VoTF left (we don’t mind because we knew they would) and another half of the people who remain are inactive due to irl stuff, we’re literally fighting with half the people we had 2 weeks ago.

Thirdly: EVERY time we start to focus on Dzag, RoF will become opportunistic and attack our things, especially NaZ and TaG, they tend to come to our bl and golem rush Cragtop or other keeps just for the fun of it, so if you see retaliation attacks on RoF bl, you know who to blame ^^

Or like yesterday when we took garrison and hills and you guys were attacking bay south, we decided to help out and attack bay north, but instead you guys pulled back and attacked all green items instead.
Sure all is fair in love and war but then don’t mind if do some retaliation in your bl instead because you’re annoying.

Peetee.9406:

Remove orange swords, white swords, and the supervisor buff. Goodbye forced zerging!

Please stop repeating other people words without thinking about it.
The only thing that will do is have the defending force be split up all over the map, do even more boring tasks and have the bigger force blob up in people of 70 so they can take things even faster because the defenders are all split up!

Kidel and Kodel, lmao

Yeah you guys took it from us :p

You don’t need to be first, you just need to have more points than dzag.

You have one more option, start attacking Dzagonur instead of having people screw around in RoS bl all the time ^^
If you’re succesful you can be blue next week.

Instead of checking why not go take it or help in taking it. It’s not “impossible”. I’ve taken keeps with 5 and another time with 9 people in the past matchup. Granted they were RoF keeps :p
The dzag keep i took with 13 people on friday, fully upgraded.

ok because before last week, i never saw Hot before.

not new in this matchup, but i’m pretty sure they’re new to Dzag.

Svarty.8019:

No offense to the Vabbi WvW community, but I suspect their performance today will simply end up as more evidence for the case against transfers.

Could you guys GH give it a rest already, how can you only be happy when you get transfers and be so against when every other server gets it.

Any case, Good luck vabbi, hope you get stronger out of it when the guild goes back from its vacation, I know we did when the BT alliance left.

Don’t worry about him Sceinna, he’s RoF but he hates me severely for some reason, even left the guild for it, so i’m not concerned what he has to say he’ll always say the opposite of me.
Once some people said RoF has few WvW players and i said that RoF is a more PvE server since they are ranked very high but are second lowest server with that ranking and he goes and says they’re not a PvE server. Even though when they do events they can bring out loads of people.

So everything he has to say about me is pretty much void.

These OP threads are OP and annoying, Nerf and delete them -.-

Build 3 AC on ramp inside garrison lord room overlooking inner watergate (to right of gate) whenever we built ac’s, the buildsite would be there but it would despawn as soon as it got built. tried both superiors and regulars… at the fifth try we got it built…

nagymbear.5280:

Ilesyt.7084:

Hah look at the arrogance and the bitterness.
The reason Surmia is still in this tier is because many are busy with exams and another 2 guilds are playing neverwinter -.-

Really? I thought Ruins of Surmia are in this tier because they received some fresh meat from upstairs. I could be wrong though.

I worded it wrong, the reason we’ll STILL be in this tier next is because many are busy with exams and another 2 guilds are playing neverwinter -.-[

Herr der Friedhoefe.2490:

Ilesyt.7084:

Dear RoF people who were camping north camp in our bl, how do you like the colour of your bay (and hills)

This is the guy who used to complain bitterly about the Dzag’s being a bunch of opportunists, and they are, but that’s another story. Now he’s doing it too, using the German national holiday to take anything he wants, and using the forums to rub it in. Even the Dzag’s were classier than that.

In the end RoF is more than good enough to keep Surmia from moving up a tier.

See ya at the reset.

Hah look at the arrogance and the bitterness.
The reason Surmia is still in this tier is because many are busy with exams and another 2 guilds are playing neverwinter -.-

Dear RoF people who were camping north camp in our bl, how do you like the colour of your bay (and hills)

My death served to delay them just enough till you arrived!

RoF’s siege count on trying to retake RoF bay today:
31 Trebs
11 golems
12 catas
various other siege
Dzag:
3 golems

RoF’s siege count on trying to retake RoF bay today:
26 Trebs
3 golems
8 catas
various other siege

Dzag::
3 golems

Traps sound interesting, it’s a way to make gameplay more versatile.
Just a note of warning: being able to put supply removing traps in front of gates = BAD IDEA, that’s just OP.

Saint Scarlet.2906:

Elwin.2583:

Mizu.9387:

This has already been done. It was called Seafarer’s Rest and it was a wonderful place. A haven for all guilds that lived and breathed WvW. Then came the flood…

it was alos called Piken Square

It still is called Piken Square, we have the same spirit we’ve always had. We enjoy the fightsas we always have and will, we don’t care what tier we fight in as all tiers offer decent fights(just higher ones offer more lag). A few guilds came to Piken to try and turn us into a superserver to push viz out of T1, which most of the guilds on Piken didn’t want. So those guilds then left for SFR to make them the server. On Piken we still have alot of our original guilds which made the place special, unfortunately the collapse of SFR has caused our queue times to increase(2+ hours is normal now) because all the bandwagoners need other servers to go for. RoS looks to be the latest project bandwagon, we’ll see what happens.

No project really, just that some guilds also came to us when t1 collapsed…

Because WvW is soo much more fun below t4

1k servers are crappiest and cheapest you can get lol

PaulV.3245:

@ Ilesyt

How would you have the slightest clue how m,uch it would cost… plz

Because I’m studying software engineering and Networks is part of that and servers at that capacity cost millions…

lol the servers will cost millions not just a few thousands, good luck with a kickstarter for that lol

Deniara Devious.3948:

Zeal.1376:

Are you a higher Tier server tired of lag & Ques ?

Funny thing is: Desolation has NO queue on borderlands, basically at any hour. And EB has 30 minutes queue only on prime-time. On non-peak hours you can get to EB immediately.

But we are also outmanned most of the time.

After so many guilds left, lag is generally no longer a big issue, unless some really big VS blob appears on the map or you go to fight Stonemist castle in EB (there is always mega lag in SM).

Many people left tier #1 (Deso and SFR), for these three reasons:
1. Visunah Square
2. Lag
3. Long queue

2 and 3 are no longer an issue. We just need to get rid of VS and everybody would be happy!

If you have 30 min queue on EB and none on atleast 1 other BL then you have a problem… I suggest you start to revise your battle plan on primetime atleast. Let pugs deal with EB and have the other guilds pull out to other bl…

Ps: Go kick Gh’s kitten

As far as I know iddqud disbanded and only has a few players here and there…

Ah nvm about that, I checked up and they still seem alive and kicking.
But I haven’t seen any mention of them transferring anywhere.

drkn.3429:

but seeing GH people posting here saying they know what its like to be outnumbered and say only Vabbi and Fow had it worse is just insulting.

Hey, Ilesyt is not from GH, he’s from RoS :p

Dude maybe read the post I quoted yeah ?

And the reason RoS dislikes GH is because you try to act like saints when you aren’t.

drkn.3429:

Ilesyt directed his reply at GH, but failed with the quotation.

Eclipse – MM is everywhere, i guess (at least on GH / AS / EB), we’re really spread out unless it’s a scheduled guild event, and just commanding in AS BL because no one else from GH really ventures there so far. Anyway, we’re not the whole server and we’re not at blue Hills because of any cross-guild or -server feud, neither we are as cool in WvW as teams like VotF or VcY

no i didn’t fail with my quotations, GH isn’t the only server who focused us, infact AS focused us so much they left their bl empty giving us ample oportunity to take their keeps.

Eclipse.1567:

@ Thageritt, we had been focused by Surmia and WSR the week before we go to T9 and Surmia goes T7, so yes we know what it is

@ Terkov (again) : Taking Hills and bunker is ok and basic strategy in a balanced match up, in this one u can do whatever you want and you will still won at the end

so you are not focusing but you have a free week of match up
Your job to do whatever you want before going t7 (focus, bunker, GvG, rushes, zergs …), WSR and AS will just fight to avoid T9

Just a note: 1 of the 2 reasons surmia focused you was because you focused on surmia
so we had to go all out on you otherwise we’d have you with breakouts 24/7 on our bl until the south towers fell..

cbabd.8053:

Gunnar’s Hold probably knows better than any server (except FoW and Vabbi) how irritating and disheartening it is to be severely outmanned and stomped upon for weeks at a time. We’re not like Surmia; we aren’t going to come onto the forums and condescendingly tell you how you can learn from the experience of being flattened. We hope to be out of your hair as soon as possible so you can go back to a balanced matchup.

Work yourself out of the pit from last rank on your own effort then we can talk about being outmanned. Sure we got transfers later on but we worked our kitten off to get out of that pit before that.
Until then you haven’t seen “outmanned”. Only Vabbi and FoW know how it is.

Wenissa.2967:

@alkalone and ilesyt

I was there in that attack. We took a t3 south bl tower with siegerzaor. Big woop. That takes ten people and no defensive response team. We killed two players from ROS by the flag on the way to the tower and the one player inside the tower once the gate fell.

At that time we had just repelled ROS from Anza three times (2 rams, 1 cat, 1 more cat) then repelled ROS from Mendons ( 1cat ) , and decided to use the lull while they regrouped to push ROS bl to buy us some time to do the repairs in EB. It didn’t work. We took that tower (172 supply in it, not 550, for those who can read a screenshot) and in the process DZ took ogrewatch and hit us at velolka and we lost anza and mendon to ROS. We all had roughly equal numbers at the time, give or take 5 players on either side.

So we then regrouped and retook our stuff in EB.

Nightcapping, lol, from ROF who are known for having virtually no night team. Krosan, nail on the head you have hit.

I’m just commenting on the guy who said: “Random picture from any map and no time on it ^^”

Just proving that you evil people came and plundered our dear alkalones home he was building up with his hard earned cash during the night and proceeded to kill his family and burn his house.

Ralathar.7236:

Questions to all those who oppose this:

In my suggestion the Water Field heals the same overall or more. How does it destroy the ability of an organized group to gain better advantage of it for there to be counter-play and less spike healing that is difficult to stop?

Wouldn’t an organized group get even better results from this? For instance stacking a few boon sharing mesmers in a water field before a battle and getting them 10-20 seconds of regeneration and more group buffs then having them share it?

Wouldn’t boon corruption/stealing/stripping builds be a little more viable by being able to limit more of the healing out there with properly spec’d counter play?

Because you’re trying to cripple the organised group so they can’t charge back in before the loads of downed players have been ressed by the blob of over 9000 players.
Also this would be more advantageous to the blob as they would just have to pass through the waterfield to get the imba regen because they fail to stack properly.

Storm.5967:

alkalone.5798:

http://hpics.li/7f084c4
Oh god ..
RoF wants to play with nightcapping..
Alright..
Let’s play then !

Random picture from any map and no time on it ^^

As you can see the siege he’s targetting has the new icon on it whicih was introduced during the latest patch and the only time we met RoF since then is during this matchup.
And lake is t3 with 550 supply so it had have been a while since reset and latest when he posted it, so somewhere in the night.
And seeing as you guys have NPC commander on your side it can only the RoS BL, Redlake.

Neandramathal.9536:

Ilesyt.7084:

I have to say goodbye to decent damage so i can survive enough, if at all…

Just like everyone else :O

Say that to warriors…

Jathres and Freyn you guys belong to the group of Bunker ele’s in organized groups of 5
And they have plenty of support and can heal without using mist form or not needing to use RTL that much.

The nerf barely hits you, especially if you can switch from signet to ER.

But the ones who got screwed are:
Solo roamers
Zerg runners, needs loads of toughness and vit to be able to survive now or be total support and bunker, bb damage
Less used builds, must now go more bunker (oh the irony)
Glass cannon builds (must also go more bunker and again, THE IRONY)
Commanders! Being focused so much, I have to say goodbye to decent damage so i can survive enough, if at all…

Btw those were the point scores of t3 EU

At the VERY least please give us RTL cooldown 20s when out of combat so we can atleast still roam properly…
This nerf destroyed us being able to roam properly and also increase the distance traveled to what it was before pl0x :x

I believe it’s not WvW they wanted to nerf but PvP…

There were people saying that the original would have gotten pwned in t7 and had nothing to do there were it not for the recent transfers because Dzag was owning in their matchup.

On that note: RoS was doing much better against AS and WSR than RoF is doing right now, and back then AS even had NOM which they don’t have now.

Toxikthrash.2704:

When capping Hills with the golems, it was just us with the help of a small amount of other players unless i am mistaken.. and even then there was yourselves and PG.. You make this sound like we had the larger number here when it came to hills.. you are very wrong indeed..

Dude don’t spout bullkitten…
When I came to the map I had the outmanned buff for a second (and we even had those bots in the water)…
When I got to hills you guys were hitting inner with several golems of which one was even omega, when you guys broke the gate 15-20 of you guys died to our reinforcements that just came in through north and that was around 20 people, and 5 people were at lord room… But because you guys rushed to lord , around 20 of yours died and when our reinforcements got to lord you were literally MELTING the lord and around 40 of you came streaming out of there…

So please don’t spout bullkitten because you had around 50-60 maybe even 70 people inside hills..

Whenever 1 server moves up between tiers it takes a little of the points with it and the below tier loses some points:

S1: 2000
S2: 1950
S3: 1900
Total: 5850

S4: 1850
S5: 1800
S6: 1750
Total: 5400

After matchup:

S1: 2050
S2: 1950
S3: 1850
Total: 5850

S4: 1900
S5: 1800
S6: 1700
Total: 5400

And since s4 has more points than s3, they switch ranks:

S1: 2050
S2: 1950
S4: 1900
Total: 5900

S3: 1850
S5: 1800
S6: 1700 (ofcourse this server might also tier down)
Total: 5350

What I call this phenomenon is a ‘bubbling up’ of points.
The last tier keeps losing points, the tiers inbetween keep gaining and losing points until last tier has stagnated that means no more switching tiers between the last and second last, when that happens, the last tier becomes another pit it will keep on losing points (unless it is a matchup that stagnates which was the case in t7 NA and doesn’t allow switching between tiers). Meanwhile all those points keep going up and up in tiers and finally reach their final destination: T1, like in a bottle they will be stuck at the top until someone shakes the bottle.
It can be a small shake when for example a bubble bursts(SFR) and causes small tremors. Or it can be a big shake from the outside (Anet).

Isaac.6041:

You’re wrong. T1 EU will change soon. This is nothing like T8 NA.

All that’s needed is for T2 EU to become unbalanced in favor of 1 server and then one of the T1 EU servers can drop down.

What a mess for SFR btw, it seemed to have collapsed faster than HoD.

You know the same could’ve said about NA t7 and t8 right ?
IF there was 1 server losing badly then SF could’ve ranked up. But it didn’t happen.

BUT this is an easier situation and desolation and Seafarers can help each other out and help 1 server drop first instead of both trying to drop down at the same time…

Fuzzion.2504:

Anatolian Turk.4057:

Not too long ago we know that NA t8 was a horrible mess with so many problems in terms of lopsided matches but guess what? The same virus has infected EU t1. We can call this a T-Virus if you wish (people from EU t1 and t2 know what I mean by that). Every EU server except Vizunah Square is trying to avoid t1. Servers from t2 are fighting ‘not’ to go to t1 while servers in t1 like desolation and SFR are fighting to go down a tier. Desolation including SFR has lost a lot of hard core wvw guilds in the past couple of weeks. And we are still losing people every passing day. A lot of people I know from Deso has already quit gw2 because t1 is staled and boring. Even if we try there is no way in the world we can drop down to t2 thanks to the glicko system. We are stuck here for good which makes me sad. If Anet doesn’t step in now, EU t1 will be a zombie town and I mean it.

Go and post this on your EU forums 0_o

The EU and NA forums are shared…..

Was asked by my dear friend D**** not to post it, so here you go:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twRXCZXFCL0

Really liking the song btw.

God you GH folks are the biggest complainers i’ve ever seen with few exceptions ofcourse!
You were kicking Dzag and RoF’s kitten and were winning by 80k points when we came and had a 90k lead on you, and from the get go you guys were complaining about organized guild joining lower tiers and then when we got more guilds you turned it into guilds from higher tiers stacking on 1 server. Take your loss like men, stop complaining, we’ll be out of your hair soon enough -_-

We at RoS have had worse to endure than you EVER had, you can ask Freyn(Neandramathal) about that.

All this whining is getting boring.

You guys actually have more than enough players to make it difficult for us but it seems you guys just want to have easy fights to me and when it doesn’t go your way you just stop playing and complain about it all day in the forum.

You guys are less WvW warriors and more Forum warriors.

Jimmy JimBob.2801:

Nemesys.7251:

gagi.4012:

, one good fight with nom + xxx on bay north cliff, we had our inventory full couple of times yay

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkcEbuSHDFM

just a little taste of us

you talking about this cliff?8min 50.

just a little taste of our gameplay(just a fast video with what we seen yesterday)we dont blob,we play as guild we have max 20 member on but almost all the time we are less,see the game with our eyes see our number,see yours.
one week and this server change tier,max 3 weeks and is on tier 5 this is why we are here now.
We want play on tier 5max because on other tier there are guild of 30 40 member where they regroup if they die,where they blob almost 90% of the time they are logged in and after many month of that we transfered,and when the tier dont fit our gamestyle we change it again for sure.

sorry for my english is not my main language,we are italian guild with few who are not.

Having spent many weeks fighting AM, FR and FSP beware the 70 man groups!

Aurora Glade were a lot less zergy than any of those servers.

As it stands you guys have alot of work to do to make it out of this tier though so best get PvDing

Can you please evacuate all keeps and towers ? That would be awesome