Guild Wars 2

Im tired of people thinking just because im on a guardian i should never get downed.

Im tired of people thinking because im on my warrior and get downed im a bad player.

Im tired of people thinking im a terrible thief if i get downed by mistake on first battle.

Im tired of people thinking they are carrying me if they res me once.

Why is it the most meaningful thing, not what i bring to the team in utility, not my dps, not my ability to guide teams but people judge you on “if you get downed or not”

ITS part of the game, deal with it. It happens, almost every player, even bunkers get downed sometimes. It has nothing to do with build. It has to do with oops cat on keyboard, oops misdodged, oops forgot this part etc. Why do people make it seem like the biggest deal ever when people are downed. Either leave them dead and make them learn with tough love, or res and move on,

Loot comes if you succeed, do the meta properly. Loot isnt rewarded for staff guardians spamming 1, not contributing to the event. Loot would make people farm it over do the objectives. Keep the event loot free please.

No Staff Guards. No engi spamming nades doing 50 damage to tag. No mindless bots running over event doing nothing but tagging. I like it this way.

Engi/Ele have only 1 weapon slot with no option to weapon switch. All other classes have the option to weapon swap.

This gives Ele/Engi the option to use: Two, 1 Handed weapons or One, 2 Handed Weapon.
This gives others the option to use: Four, 1 Handed weapons or Two, 2 Handed Weapons.
Which Means: Ele/Engi = 2 Sigil Slots. Others = 4 Sigil Slots.

How does this disadvantage Ele/Engi? Passive Sigils. Stacking Sigils.
Lets take a Warrior. Lets say they run GS and sword/warhorn. The GS can have 2 offensive sigils such as Force and Fire, to provide maximum DPS, while the s/wh, used as utility and not DPS can carry the passive Bloodlust Sigil. This means their GS does full DPS, while not having to sacrifice the Fire damage for Bloodlust. Bloodlust isnt bad on their warhorn since they arent looking to do damage with it.

Lets take ele: Since we only have 2 spots. If we use bloodlust, that means we must sacrifice the useage of Force and/or Fire to accommodate Bloodlust. This means we dont have the DPS Potential of other classes due to the restriction.

Yes I know engi have kits, ele have attunment. Its not the point, re-read post. You cant socket sigils in utility slots.

Sooo whats the logic behind this?

Thank you scarlet!

O Warriors, how we have let the community at large make us nerfed by the constant barrage of (fake and inflated) comments that we are OP. This is my memorial to what Warrior used to be and should be. Remember, the meta for PvE speedruns only includes 1 warrior, are we really that OP? Also we are good WvW Zerg’ers but with the Hambow nerf + Crit nerf, warriors will be increasingly ineffective in small groups/spvp.

Feel free to add nerfs I forgot or unjustified nerfs:

Most Outrageous Nerfs – Unjustified Nerfs in corresponding order.

1. The Berserkers Power/Heightened Focus Nerf. (PVE)
- So having a trait go from 10 points, to 30 points is “balance” Thats an insane change and hugely different. It would be one thing if the strength traits were good, but since 10 points in strenth has horrible choices, the Zerker Power thing wasn’t called for.

2. Axe Auto Nerf. (PVE)
-Nerfed axe auto so people will have to use the entire chain to achive DPS. However most weapons you would not sit and spam 1 obviously. Almost no one uses axe in pvp and in pve, even if axe was more effective/as effective as GS, people still generally use GS over axe. Axe needs encouraging, not discouraging.

3. Longbow Nerfs
-The most outrageous was the Combustable Shot nerf. The Developers said that it was too easy to gain back adren, yet when the community showed that Combustable actually DOES NOT gain adren, it was ignored. If this was the reasoning for the nerf, why not revert it? It is disrespectful to not address that. Also the damage was nerfed before this. LB is recommended over Rifle in PvE and should be on par DPS wise. The upcoming Arcing Shot nerf (Which takes ages to cast and if the opponent stands in a slow arcing aoe shot, thats not our fault) is unjustifable as thats what made the DPS on par with a rifle. Also the Pin Down nerf makes no sense. How is dodging a arrow any harder than dodging a guardian scepter #3, or a thiefs trait that immobs, or the countless other classes that have immob. No one runs throw bolas. And hmmm Leg Specialist? Oh yea that was nerfed too.

4. Nerfs to Hammer
-The slippery slope that started has continued to snowball with no end in sight. First it was nerf to hammer by alot (23% Damage). We all know in PvE, hammer is very low damage to start with. Now comes Merciless Hammer damage nerf, WHICH we only started to use becuase of the initial change, to make up for the DPS lost. The fact that earthshaker never connects if your above elevation (makes no sense, it should actually do more damage from above) Is completly ignored, making this weapon ineffective since we all know GW2 has much terrain, which is cool, but not when your weapon is bad cuz of it.

5. Ninja “Empowered” Trait Nerf
-Went from 2% DPS increase to 1%, was not reflected in patch notes. If a warrior has defense traits, hes obviously not max DPS so why act like a warrior who invests in tanky traits is so strong. We are not guardians who can use Save Yourselfs to gain boons. If we invest in Lyssa for boons, thats a big decision. Otherwise its not like we have that many boons that it needed to be tuned down.

6. Rending Strikes worse than other classes vulnerbility traits.
-Other classes have no cooldown on their vuln on crit traits, so why do warriors have one? Warriors job used to be vuln inflicter with axe/mace/trait but now other classes can do what we do without any specific weaponset and better. It only makes sense a “heavy” armor with mace (known to crack armors in most MMO’s) would do more vuln then ele/thief FGS’ers cough cough

7. Mace Nerfs/Unsuspecting Foe (GS/-Mace Shield build)
-Although this stopped the ever popular GS/Mace-Shield, this just reduces build diversity to be forced into Hambow instead. Since this is inefffective in PvE and Zerging, Its a spvp/small team build. Therefore, the only viable alt is Hambow which honestly is just as effective. Shield is honestly a horrible weapon, and to have a build that uses it effectivly is great. (FYI – Offhand sword blocks just as long as shield but with a shorter CD). The increase in mace stun time was clearly a mistake, it should of been left how it was but with no nerf to the animation and time of Skull Crack.

most people i know have a problem with too little karma, not too much and having no where to spend it. most people with excess karma are old players who have it saved up from back in the day. we need more ways to earn karma, then this would be ok. Right now, we need less ways to spend karma not more

So if me and my friend from the same guild decide to roam and find a solo roamer, and proceed to 2v1 him, are we breaking the rules? hah.

Its not my job, nor the communities job to level your characters. If they do so, I would be very thankful and appreciate the generosity. A nicer way to do things is, play a level 80 for the dungeon, switch to a alt character at final boss who is lower level. That way the party is happy, your happy and its a win/win.

So this thread was really a “Nerf warrior” thread in disguise

i came from jade quarry. a home where pve events where plentiful. a home with solid pvp.

Why i transferered to SoR:
teamwork on wvw. this isnt your “roam and flex when you find a1v1” This is all about scouting, team effort.

I went from helping a commander, lead the map, following, to helping him escort dolyaks to SM tagless while someone else finishes the pushes.

This would never happen on JQ. ALSO JQ likes it when 1 commander pin;s up only and keeps it to 1. each SoR map had 2-3 commanders leading multiple groups onto multiple objectives.

The amount of teamwork is better. when people say “Stack”.people actually listen and stack vs run in by themselves.

the commanders arent big bosses. they are mentors and coaches. they are players who like to help others and teach. far from a big commander who barks orders at his follwers. they have been in our position, as a follower, grown into commander, but still know whakittens like and how to make best use of the army. they are promoted from WITHIN.
The commanders here are not simply a bobblehead in a suit hired from <random servers>. They come from within with SoR community, having grown up here, witnessed the stregnths and weaknesses.

They have seen what it takes. They will help a fellow teammate. If a commander sees a downed player slightly off path, they will run to res that guy and not just ignore him. If a commander sees trashwork like waiting 4 mins for a camp, he w ill de-pin and wait, and take that camp because thats what the TEAM needs, and not just his commander kitten needs to tower,tower,tower,tower. If theres 30 people at Grub, 20 percent, they will ignore it unless its enemy.

These are observered in less than a day playing not even with the “best” SoR guilds. I cant wait to see my next few days

“Thanks SoR”

transfer has already paid off big time for me.

< One Happy Customer

A thank you note for making GW a better game. I think people have seen the difference between a map with an active commander and without. In WvW its the difference between alot of pugs staying on the map for more than a minute. In PvE its the difference between a coordianted map effort or people just farming for loot, not even trying to win.

It takes a lot of effort to organize things and it may seem like a waste when things fail, people wipe, or map chat gets filled with hate and rage comments. But some stick with it and try no matter what and eventually they get a crowd or have a good enoguh group to succeed. The ones who make serious attempts at commanding in Overflows and EoTM must be even harder as you dont have your servermates, but people you wont see again and way less guildies than a home map.

Feel free to comment if your gw2 has been positively or negative effected by commanders

Warriors need some drastic changes if the traits are to actually match the stats. As it is now, power has horrible first tier choices. This is POWER we are talking about and it has things like Cure Condition, Heal HP, Reduce Damage….Am I looking at the wrong trait, nope, thats what power gives you, defense.

Revamp the entire line again because it makes no sense. Meanwhile you spec into vitality and it gives you +150 power! Wouldnt ya know!

So 10 trait vit>>150 power…
10 trait into power = 100 power + a heal…

confusing much?

dawn
520g on TP

The whole stacking thing is due to there is no tank or taunt abilties in GW2. The main job of a team is to group the enemys into a sweedish, 1 dot ball and kill them. since there is no way to group alot of enemy’s, the stack performs this for us without having to have any specific skillset or trait. stacking is the only easy fast way to get things to ball since you cant just run around and tank it into a ball or have any way of effective aggro control. most of us know in any MMO having some type of tank, aggro control, etc is pretty essential to any type of organized play. without trinity, the wall is our tank.

Burst/Spike attacks have always been the key to killing enemys over sustained dps, and stacking forces the team to DPS together rather than have 1 guy ressing, 1 guy casting, 1 guy dodging etc. In gw1 if you didnt have a proper high dps spike, monsters could heal back up (Margonite Ki/Dream Rider in Foundry) and you literally had to sync dps on 1 target or things wouldnt drop or be so deadly, you would die if you didnt burst on them quick enough. GW2 is very forgiving about having sustained dps/healing power be viable because you will be tanky enough to sustain forever. To most people, burst is still perfered.

I would suggest to OP play with newer players as they tend to kinda do whatever they want, and if this is the gameplay you want, they tend to adapt closer to this playstyle. key terms like “all welcome” and other things will indiciate a group less prone to skipping. words like “speedrun, 80s only, AP x+ points or kick, ZERKER PING, NO NOOB, EXP ONLY” will all more likely than not be a stacking/rushing group.

Your meant to melee stuff, not to cripple it and kite

I agree Sovata, but there are sooo many people who will argue with you all day long that guardians/warrior are in fact bad. I dont believe this needs a entire game rebalance as it is not in agreement throughout the game that other classes are underpowered.

This is an MMO. If you dont like working with random people, than play the original Skyrim which is designed to be single player and not have to work with others.

VoIP isnt necceessary. Keep believe that lie because it was said about Teq “WE NEED TS NO FAIR” but ive been in JQ Main Sparkfly several times, a few times with no commander even, and we beat Teq. Just requires training, patience, not making fun of people who ask questions, and the most important – Time. Sure VoiP increases the chances of success vastly, but its not required. However, GW1 was always a social game and imo GW2 could and should be also.

Its not designed for you to sit home listening to music eating cupcakes spamming 1 never making any connections. Most servers have their TS open to the public and itll take time before their are commanders and guilds willing to lead because they are unsure of tactics right now.

Once they gain confidence to sucessfully lead a team, there will be an increase in succeeds, leadership abilities, TS etc.

BG opened its TS to public for Teq kills and this worked great. TTS is a pro guild with Teq who when I played with them never had a problem with me pugging alongside of them , not being in their teamspeak.

Right now just no one has the “perfect” strategy and doesnt want to lead people into TS etc if its just gonna fail. Once people can plan accordingly, they will be more agressive in organizing and pushing people to do the right things.

People are trying their best, if you can do better, lead like several individuals and guilds have done. If you think you know more than the current commander/leaders doing the event, im sure they would be open to suggestions or pinning down if you took over.

In the meantime, no one is really out to sabotage the event, people do what they can to the best of their abilities without making it a chore, while having fun. Its an eye opener for sure to how bad of a build or weapon choice certain players make but i wont go too far on this point cept : Run zerk/scholer warriors pls

I see your math, I see your statement, but I dont see the problem even if silk hit 3s per scrap. So its alot of money…yea, imo that was the point?

I suggest Jade Quarry. As long as your into WvW too

id like a hard dungeon, that becomes easy with the right team, that has the chance to drop an item such as Vision of the Mists, Volcanus etc… Not a precursor, just something actually VERY incentive, not just a charged lode, im talking BIG MONEY DROPS but rng ofc

Recieve the light friend! Best.Line.Ever

I have noticed alot that during times where the keep will be under attack, or similar panic times, lots of people just sit around. They arent afk because they run around (Sometimes, not always) but literally just sit in the home base. Sometimes its chaotic and they may be confused. Either way they arent helping and when the map is queued full of people willing to die for a shot at helping, these are just bodies. Change the afk timer to 5 minutes non activity = kick. Better yet, make the afk timer 2 minutes if the structure is under attack, and someone is akittenside of it

Going to make all CoE groups “Melee-only”. Why? Anyone with Alpha exp knows, if you res a person out of melee range, you might as well sign your death wish. 1 hit AOE, combined with crystals that freeze you = Melee only way to go.

CoF path1? You already know its Melee only with 1 mesmer

Fractals? You best believe it. Look on gw2lfg already, you see Perfer Guard/War or Heavy pls.

TA? You think im going to risk dying and being kicked for failing on a light armor? Sorry, heavy has more armor aka more chance to live.

WHY HEAVY THOUGH? Tanky Dps. All other classes must decide either support or DPS.Heavy classes can melee, do support and DPS at once. Overall balanced.

There are people of all types who play gw2, that being said, id probaly guess a majority is probaly guys. Guys like girls. The end

If Critical Damage is replaced by Ferocity, it is only fair that:
Condition Duration should be replaced because its obviously an OP PERCENTAGE and unfair stats across items/foods.

The reasoning on crit dps was that the 5%’s etc, are better scaled than say, a +Str item/food etc. So naturally by that reasoning, Condi Duration scales way to well and should be nerfed too.

me too! same thing.

people complained they did “20” level 10 fractals with no rings, so they made pristine. now the same people complain they have too many. thats why there shouldnt be a use.

Replace AC Story “Cave Troll” With “Den Troll”, which has less attacks, less CC etc would solve it. That way they wouldnt have to tweak with anything and it would be fair.

No. Ascended gear + Fractal unique skins vs guanteed bad drops in dungeons too, just alot more silver.

No one makes you farm fotm for gold. It would be OP if they dropped silver. EVERYTHING, Skins, money, exotics, ascended gear, lets throw precursors chance upped too while were at this wish list for all your farm needs in 1

ok so today i joined a lfg group, like many posts “AC P2 @ FINAL BOSS NEED 1 MORE HELP”

so there was a level 35, 700 achivement points (probaly his first character), alevel 39, and two level 80’s with 6k+ achivement points, and me as warriror.

so i figure, ill help these people, some newbies to game, and beat whats considered a hard boss.

they end up wiping constantly (lowbies + one of the level 80 thiefs) and clearly i cant duo. guardian ends up raging out, leaves dungeson and screws everyone out of tokens. i wasnt that mad since i joined at end but seriously to give new players this type of view of the game is ridiculous.

honestly no need for it to stack so much vuln, do so much dps, and HEAL. i think the main prob is heal. i went to go back a little to try to not die while he resses and it just resets, making everyone freak out.

i try to do a good deed, it ends up backfiring and having a new player possibly not like gw2 because of this. no need for ghost eater to be so difficult…

I would think most people who enjoyed FoW, UW, DoA would

Please dont make SoR/BG purposely focus TC’s structures instead of their own just to push them back to t2. Its not the servers job. Its obvious JQ should be in t1, so let them next week please. We all want fun and shouldnt have to be bored and just pvdoor TC’s stuff just to “Show” Anet that they are in t2 (no dissrespect intended)

Next match should be JQ/SOR/BG

The person selling the run is doing nothing wrong or against the rules by selling the path. The people who took advantage of him in 1/2/3 are and should be subject to punishment if reported. Its possible to grief, we know that, but the seller isnt griefing, the people are.

Thats why Hogdkins calls them Wretched Graveling Scavangers!

As someone who had his doubts about my trusty guardian scepter, very well played indeed.

Ok well I was new to warrior at the time and didnt understand endure pain totally.

What happened ( I think ) now is.

V Shape Attack Knocks Me Down
Somehow afterward agony gets applied to me and I take damage (But didnt notice the source of the damage)
I assumed the damage was from the V Shape attack since it knocked me down.
It might or might not of been from agony idk.

I see now using endure pain in other areas, that I get knocked down all the time.

Thank you for the clarification on 1. endure pain 2. other invuln skills from other classes

Unfortunatly for CoE/CoF the recipies cost 500 tokens + Rare mats and you only make like 40s-1G Profit. If you look at the fact you could of bought rares with those 500 Tokens and salvaged for ecto, the CoE/CoF ones (At least the 3 I have) actually make you lose money, and alot of it.

Not sure about AC/SE since the rares wouldnt get ecto, but 500 tokens = 2 exotics at least so youd have to do some math.

People always say nothing means exp.

People go legendary dont mean anything, people say achivement points dont mean anything, people say level doesnt mean anything, people say titles dont mean anything.

PSA: THEY DO MEAN SOMETHING :P just because you dont have it, dont h8

This is like asking people in pre nerf cursed shore to stop holding mobs, etc. This is like asking at Lyssa for people to stop standing in middle and goto ledge. In my experience, any high population server will be as greedy as possible. There was a huge differnce between ex-server JQ CS/Lyssa Farm and my previous servers. JQ was ruthless but honestly it makes you better. You learn to get to them quicker. It was pointless to try to convince people and in a way

This might not be your playstyle, but they might have limited time or want to farm it. Or they want to do it fast etc. To the early bird, gets the worm.

JQ for everything.

The chances of an organized conspiracy to kick someone for no reason and/or profit is extremely low.

You probaly didnt read the LFG and they discovered you didnt match the description in that fractal

If teams see you have 0 AR you might be kicked, they could give the person a chance in level 1, actually showing compassion until its too much to handle in the second level

You were probaly making choice commments

Not many guilds or people kick for fun or lulz. There might of been something done on your part either voluntary or involuntary that caused a vote kick. Try brushing up on the dungeon forums to minimze agitation of party members.

Ok so I am used to skipping him but some groups require it and I just go. So, with all the spam on him from eles, mesmers, sparkly shinies on him etc and being using a ranged weapon myself

I CANT SEE HIS STUPID CHARGE UP ABILITY or whatever you guys call it. Ive heard “Dodge when he raises his sword” – Except when hes fighting, he raises his sword 100 times becuase, thats how you hit people. So he raises sword every second.

So how can you dodge reliabily if you cant see him? Id try to melee, but his whirl will own me and i cant heal while poison and have enough health left.

Same people who tell me l2 kholer etc end up dying too – thats the funny part! its a downed party but some people clearly think theres a way to do kholer without ever dying..

I hate kholer but if i have to deal with him, id like to know how to do it properly. I cant just eye it since things block the animation, not sure what to look for, etc.

I dont wanna watch youtube.

List quickly the moves pls and how you can see it through tons of players spells and how you live (THAT MEANS IF YOU GET DOWNED OR DIE @ KHOLER DONT POST Pls)

Basically if someone lists and item and no one else has bothered to list that item, just because its either not worth much or bad skin etc, they list it for 100g and just hope that someone buys it on accident. Worth a shot imo

If they were scamming/griefing you it surely is illegal. If you left out key details like, Oh before that I cursed them out, made fun of their moms, went afk for an hour and insisted on skipping when they wanted to kill, well then it probaly isnt illegal. If your a innocent angel, report and Anet should take action.

Edit: you dont need screens although they help immensly. you can send a email to anet rather than just the text box.

Kind of like how Red Shirt Guy got added to WoW as Fact Checker.

All you do in wvw is stack also. Even small teams. You seem like you dont wvw, you are just new to the game in general.

Examples of WvW Stacking:

1. Fire Field (Even teams of 5 should have firefield) Blast blast blast, you must be in fire field to recieve the might, hence a stack.

2. Water Field on me, blast blast blast, must be in water, sometimes in a small geyser to recieve heals

3. Hammer train(Weather its 2 people or 20 people) must stay as tight as possible (stacked)

4. Lets say your team is defending a tower. Enemy has gate at 5 percent. Stack to the left hand side of the gate with your team and when they come in, bomb them in choke. You dont want people on top of the tower to give away that your inside..

Not sure how you play WvW but you probaly arent successful if you dont employ some of these tactics in WvW. So why is it ok there but not in pve?

sinzer.4018:

Warlord.9074:

If I would of know you were going to buy a set of zerker gear for running dungeons I would of advised against this. Most peoples on here would of told you to get knights armor instead. Knights Armor + Ruby Orbs is the magic build lol.

Pretty much this. Ive tried going full zerker before but i sometimes make little mistakes and i don’t like getting downed for it. An MF run the other day with a full zerker warrior and myself in the party made me committed to advising people to not go full zerker. Spending half the encounters on the ground isn’t worth it imo. Most people just won’t be good enough to mitigate enough dmg through other means for zerker to be worthwhile.

Zerks only die when the party doesnt have enough total DPS. let me guess, party was filled with non zerks like yourself. No wonder the zerker dies. Clearly your not a warrior, but posting in warrior forums. Theres a reason COF runs are with zerkers only, and not with your kind. because zerks good with zerks. it doesnt go zerks good with bunkers. Why? Bunker is selfish and cant heal for anything, yet they claim they help team (obviously not if people die).

Galtrix.7369:

Half my guild just left this game at the same time because they got bored of getting no loot and having nothing better to do. One of the members of the guild got about 200 people together to discuss where the future of this game might go, and they all decided to leave for WoW and other mmorpgs, so they said their goodbyes and just left. That’s the direction Anet is going, so good luck.

Meanwhile, my guild is going strong wiht 450 people, 40+ online, max people in vent, 20+ during wurm meta last night. Sounds like ya need a new guild bro

shorun.7492:

Maybe I’ll switch to Rifle…it will take me longer, but I think it’s the most fun. Is there a useable Rifle/Longbow build?

Dude your warrior, the world is at your feet. ANY weapon is pretty much viable including those two. longbow=aoe rifle=single targs