Guild Wars 2

Pros:
- Incredibly tanky if build right
- Mass retaliation with axe
- Mass cripple with axe
- Fear enemys from the rams
- Strong AoE with Staff
- Strong AoE with Wells (even tagetable if specced)
- Spread conditions to the enemy zerg
- Pull enemys from walls
- 2 Speed buffs, which let you travel really fast
- Lich form to kill the occasional roamer
- AoE Blindness for the enemy zerg
- …

In my eyes the Necro is one of the strongest WvW classes around. It’s only sPvP where it really feels meh, but that is off topic.

You can now time your return much better and gain life force.

Edit: You decide, when you want to leave the enemy zerg in WvW. You don’t have to hope you survive until it toggles.

Edit2: Minions still wothless here. Have to test some more though.

Come on guys, the new spectral walk is incredibly awesome!

Hoping for fix and completing the map.

Per definition a transfer is removing an element from one set and placing it into another set. If they intended to copy the conditions, they should write “copy” and not “transfer”.

It’s broken in its current implementation.

In theory it is an extremly multilayered class with many different builds. In it’s current implementation it feels broken. If you start now and hit 80 when the patch comes, you will probably have one of the most difficult and rewarding classes in the game. Until then you are either a glasscannon with a weak escape skill that dishes out mediocre damage, a very tanky annoyance that doesn’t kill a thing or you gamble with your minion AI.

> c) asking yourself why the hell you rolled that class instead of any of the other 7

This.

> c) asking yourself why the hell you rolled that class instead of any of the other 7

This.

Players of full servers can transfer to less populated servers just to get an advantage for their server. Today Augury Rock players defended Riversides castle.

In my experience (257h Nekro currently) it only happens when i have Plague Signet equipped. Of course i may be wrong, but that is my experience.

I believe it’s the condition transfer from Plague signet. You pull all fear from your allies, which results in a 20 second fear.

(Actually you copy those conditions and leave it on your allies, since the skill is bugged. But you get the idea of the skill.)

So Guardians are getting some love, it seems ( link ).

I have high hopes a moderator will have a look in our forum too. Maybe they really are balancing classes already. Yay!

Bscit.6015:

60 views and no reply, seriously?

Maybe people wonder what the title is, see that it’s just someone who wants help with their build and move on. Doing the same thing now. Bye.

I believe their priorities are somewhere else at the moment. Usually ArenaNet has a very transparent policy. So if there is no answer at all, i believe they don’t have the capacity right now. That’s why i’m rolling thief now. Maybe ArenaNet will revive the Necro, but until then i’ll have more fun with other classes. With all that fuzz about hackers, world capacities and such, i believe we’ll wait at least a month or two until something happens.

An official statement would nonetheless be great, just to know if i missed something entirely. Maybe i just haven’t found that one tweak that changes everything.

Quick workaround until they fix it:

Change

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Gold-Spamming-unchecked/page/2#post82861

to

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Gold-Spamming-unchecked/page/1

Try it out and compare it to the damage output of other professions. Just my opinion though.

Edit: You only have so much attack in WvWvW and PvE. There are only amulets in PvP.

hyzus.7023:

Oh dear that post is mostly just whining, when will people understand that this game is about team balance not 1v1 balance, Necros are extreamly powerful in groups we provide alot of debuffs and combo fields, meaning other classes can take advantage of this and kill the enemy team easier.

Yes i know we have alot of broken traits etc but the amount of crying happening that necros are the worst class in the game is just pathetic and frankly wrong.

This is most likely why these posts are not being replied to by anet because frankly would you listen to a whiny little kid who is only whining because they expect all classes to be as powerful as eachother. That is not what guildwars2 is about it wasnt what guildwars 1 was like.

Please everyone stop asking for buffs to bring us upto the same 1v1 abilitys as say warriors etc it wont happen and shouldnt happen.
And tbh if played properly its entirely possible for a necro to kill anyone 1v1 if they are skilled enough, the person who posted that wall of text obviously is one of the people that just expects another wow clone

sPvP rank and build please?

+1

Rolling Thief now.

Ran a very similar build for some PvP matches. You’re extremly tanky but you lack damage. Some enemies may fall for it and attack you, but most will realize that you’re no threat, ignore you and focus your team first. I wouldn’t go with Lich form. Plague is way more annoying to the enemy team. As for the second weapon, i’d take staff, to fear enemies away from finishing your team mates. Not because it’s very efficient, but because i have a lot of fun in doing it.

dementedB.8594:

I agree with a lot of the points the guy makes, some of them however, are not valid in a different game mod. In wvw for example 50% less falling dmg + poison cloud is fairly usefull, so is spectral walk.

I am a Lvl 80 nec from day 6 after headstart, been playing wvw since then and have already spent a hell of a lot of silver on trying to find a build that was not broken. And I mean literally broken, the obvious choices for synergies either don’t work or have such a miniscule effect that the only way to know that it even there is to check the combat log.

A good measure of successful prof balance imo is having at least the low lvl, poorly geared guys avoiding a fight with someone who hasn’t been scaled up, but necro is just target practice in wvw, everyone will engage on sight and chase you to the end of the map because they see you as a free kill (you can have some fun with it tho, with that -50% falling dmg and poison). For myself, I’ve managed to find a build that works tolerably well in spite of all the bugs and balancing issues and win pretty much all of my 1on1 and even most 2on1, but not because the class is kickass or I’m so skilled with it, the real reason is the overconfidence on the part of enemy and their poor knowledge of their class and controls.

Bottom line is, necro is broken, the only reason we see some success in wvw is that most people are just learning the game and we take advantage of that. If nothing is done soon, this prof will be dead in pvp and wvw within a few months. In fact, it’s dying now, in a guild of 100 we have only 2 active necs, and I’m already thinking about moving on to a thief after playing a lvl 14 in wvw for some time and seeing the difference.

I’m in the exact same spot. Level 80, playing almost exclusivly WvWvW and having changed builds all the time with no tolerable success. Moving on to thief as well.

EmpyJon.4561:

I love it, really. They are frustrating, annoying, sometimes they are completely useless, standing there doing nothing, sometimes they just go and charge mobs you’re not interested in fighting. They take a while to use their abilities when you tell them to, and all in all, they seem to be giving you the middle finger most of the time.

Exactly how I expect some monstrosity I raise from a grave to act. Completely love it.

Oh you’re so laissez-faire with your little ones. If mine don’t work as they should, i release them (by slotting another skill and using it) and let them stand there all on their own. That’ll teach them!

zao.2710:

Konrad Curze.5130:

I think they just hate the class and plan on deleting it soon

Well that escalated quickly…
Inb4 red post pretty pleasee

A red post would actually be nice, so we would know that something will happen. We have no feedback if the Necro will stay that way or not. If it stays a tank/support class i’ll change profession. I really want to kill something once in a while. Being annoying as hell is nice for some time but some more viable options would be nice.

Heorte.3562:

Alright, my view on PvP with the necromancer disagrees with the majority of you only because I think my experience in WoW arena and Starcraft 1 has made me a better player in all games.

You’re cute.

HappyCerberus.3178:

If you don’t want to be disappointed don’t try to kill other players. Play support and let others claim the kills.

Sadly this.

So that’s whats wrong with it. Tested it in a dungeon yesterday and it did not have any effect on my team. I thought the effect would only occur every 3-4 seconds but it seems, that was when the conditions ran out or my mates cleansed them.

What do we bring to the table for dungeons then?

• Damage is worse than other classes damage.
• Removing conditions of my team with plague signet does not work. I still have Well of Power, but the guardian has a better skill for that.
• Superior tankiness through Death Shroud. I can’t see the benefit from that in the dungeons i’ve played so far.
• Minions that bug and pull random mobs.

Any ideas how to spec for dungeons?

Skliros.1058:

And then we’ll all be able to sit around with our awesome doom wizards a year from now and regale the newbies with tales of “how it used to be”.

You mean the revival of the Necromancer class? Sure hope it comes.

Erebus.7568:

Shelledfade.6435:

necro weakest class in game in terms of s-pvp.

They’re so weak compared to guardian or warrior that it’s almost sickening to witness.

-_-
i can’t lose to a guardian even if i wait 10 sec with even attacking him…

necro’s DESTROY!!! any class in spvp…. maybe a really good rogue or ranger can survive but i highly doubt it and havent mead it yet.

the fact the necro will turn every boon on you to a condision and every con on himself to a boon and at the same time got a full 30sec invulnerability while putting out tons of dmg. etc etc.. calling him weak is a joke..

build him con dmg+thoughness, well based and stuff with plague as ult… his insanely strong. properly the strongest class in spvp

when that is said it really doesnt feel like a necro, it feels much more like a mesm, debuff/condmg and impossible to catch or kill.
it doesnt have the necro feel to it at all. sadly

Interesting. Please share your build. Your sPvP rank would also be very interesting.

Shelledfade.6435:

dude get off my back troll. no, after 200 hours I’ve explored every possibility there is with this class, it’s bad. Now, is there an ignore button somewhere I can use on you?

Well i hope there there is an ignore button for you.

Shelledfade.6435:

What am I a 13 year old girl?

I strongly am under that impression.

My main problem is, that any class can clean all conditions. If they could only clean 5 conditions that would be a major buff at least. At the moment burst classes just have a huge advantage. They clean your conditions and kill you in seconds. Or you build tank and they just don’t die and kill you with their second or third burst.

Killyox.3950:

Anyways i agree that necro is the weakest and i am not necro player.

I also agree. It’s just the unconstructive and infantile way he posts. I have better things to do than argue with someone like that.

Shelledfade.6435:

Dude, necro is the weakest class in s-pvp if you don’t believe that then go play with some warriors or guardians against or with them, and see for yourself.

Their classes are on another level than ours is. It’s ridiculous.

I’ve tried the tank minion build and I’ve tried the offensive condition build, both suck horrendously bad.

Not going to answer your flaming.

Shelledfade.6435:

necro , worst class in game at the moment in s-pvp. They’re on a level that’s worse than bad.

So you flame a lot?

Shelledfade.6435:

necro weakest class in game in terms of s-pvp.

They’re so weak compared to guardian or warrior that it’s almost sickening to witness.

That actually isn’t quite true. You can build extremly tanky and be a major pain for the whole enemy team, while your team caps other places. The problem is, that i sometimes want to kill someone 1v1. If your enemy has just the slightest clue, you can’t win. You can’t burst him. If you go Condition Necro, you have to build glasscannon to at least do decent damage and he can just cleanse those conditions with a skill. If you bait him into using his Condition cleaner too early, you just don’t have enough skills left to kill him.

So all i have left in PvP/WvWvW is to be a nearly unkillable death shroud/plague, while taking all conditions from my allies. What i end up in WvWvW is transporting Supplies to the front, running away from every enemy i find. That is pretty unsatisfying and not what i intended, when i picked Necromancer.

+1

Annoying sound is annoying.

An official statement would be great. I’ve tried tons of builds and have found only tank/support builds that work. All other builds where underwhelming. I’m really interested if this is intended and i just haven’t found the right build yet. Maybe i’m just a bad player.

If it isn’t intended, i’ll be relieved.