Guild Wars 2

Bless your heart Jebro, it’s a shame devs don’t seem to have as much passion for the PvP as you apparently do. How long has it been since the actual PvP season ended and they’re yet to announce the next one :/

One of my favourite specs to play pre-HoT before I stopped playing. I still loosely followed GW2 and the whole tank meta fiasco. Which led to comically heavy-handed tactics in dealing with the tank meta, including completely killing any bunker specs.

Settler’s amulet is no more and the only amulet with significant healing power for support guardian is Magi’s, but precision is useless on Support Guard.

Now I wanna play some support guardian in unranked or amber (same thing). Can anyone recommend me a decent support Guardian build? inb4 don’t, please guys ;_;

On a side note, I felt that Support guardian was one of the most well-rounded specs out there. Can’t single handedly hold a point as it relied on teammates for healing, hit like a wet noodle unless you got a 420 no-scope crit with the mace 3 iirc or your staff 2(unlike the HoT builds, block block block then 2 5k hits or sth).

tl;dr gib a decent support guardian build if you guys have one please

I’m in the same boat OP. Stopped playing after HoT release for obvious reasons; never bought it. Now I’m slowly getting back into it for some fresh air.

Anyways I’ll tell you what I know:

Necro: Marauder wellmancer is still a great roflstomper, it’s fun too. Run Flesh Wurm and well of corruption/ vulnerability. Terrormancer(never forget pre-HoT Noscoc terrormancer at worlds) is really good IMO.

Guardian: Marauder GS+hammer or scepter/focus. GS is a MUST. I almost always get top damage when playing marauder guard.

Engineer: Good ol’ marauder rifle-double toolkit-invuln elixir. Great burst and great “oh kitten” spec with double elixir proc from your passive.

I’m assuming you are familiar with the old stuff. If not, say so. And when i geta chance I’ll screenshot the builds I’m qworking with.

Bare in mind I’m in sapphire and just playing for fun :p

Such a darn shame they only started listening to feedback like this suggestion after the game (supposedly) went south and after I stopped playing :/

bLind.6278:

Balance is pretty good

Kappa?

Ayrilana.1396:

TheBlackLeech.9360:

gw2 is dead to me…. and even more dead during pvp off season.

And yet you’re on the forums for a game that is dead to you.

I don’t know about this guy’s reasons; but I think the game is done, yet I lurk the forums and very occasionally post. Why? Because I still love this game and really wish I could still have fun in it. But something went wrong with HoT, and it became less than meh.

FeelsBadMan

Silv.9207:

Sirendor.1394:

Silv… you’re embarassing yourself with your self-justifying reasoning.

If you PAY something and it makes it easier to WIN, that means you PAY to WIN. That is exactly what elite specs are.
1. You pay for them
2. You are stronger than people who bought the core game (B2P)
3. You can win easier

QED: Elite specialisations are P2W.

Silv.9207:

P2W: Buy Items in game with real money that are not included in the Main Game.

Buy it you have ALL the game, Old and HoT at the same time with no extra payment.

I’m bad at this quote formatting stuff; anyways, using this sentence as evidence, you only started post HoT so you have a vastly different opinion, alot of us here paid $50(or 10 in my case ) for the full game, then paid $50 again for the kittenfest that is HoT(I didn’t, though I’m still sour about how it kittened up GW2), pretty sure the second $50 is extra, meanwhile you paid 1 set of $50. I promised myself not to get into this -.-

thanks for saying more or less what I think kasteros lol

i really wanna answer back and have some manner of a keyboard war, but it’s more fun to just watch. Eventhough silv is triggering me lol

Thing is, some people classify having elite specs in PvP as “content” in an MMO hence buy to play(maybe those guys are PvElords here for the dank wings?). While alot of people view the elite specs as an advantage over the core player(since this is supposedly a “competitive” environment), hence pay to win.
Either way, game has become cancerous post-HoT \o/

^ditto, right before the trait rework
next expansion idea: gw2 pre-HoT

lmao these cloud links, we r anonymus, we r leegun /Kappa

miss being able to play fresh air ele, terrormancer, not sure how medi guard does now.
Wellmancer is still troll.
Idea for next expansion: GW2 without HoT /Kappa

1 in 7 is perfectly normal lol, you probably had a large winstrek before this, or willl have a long winstreak after this

this whole “ZOMG I am stuck” is really getting on my nerves, as long as your win/loss ratio is more or less respectable, and you’re not really moving up, then maybe you’ve found your spot, I’ll just copy paste what i typed in another thread:

I don’t understand why people are making a fuss about being stuck in a certain division- I moved on to Smite and am stuck in bronze 1(aka trash) and i couldn’t care less. Eventhough I sometimes convince myself that I’m better than your average bronzie :p . Unless you’re on one of those 16 game losing streaks or whatnot.
What I’m getting at is maybe that’s where you belong? This ain’t directed to the guy above me just in general.
I know it sucks to feel that you can play 100 games and have 0 progression, but that’s how it is, unless you improve or 4 man q

^ same, also moved on to Smite lolumz

I don’t understand why people are making a fuss about being stuck in a certain division- I moved on to Smite and am stuck in bronze 1(aka trash) and i couldn’t care less. Eventhough I sometimes convince myself that I’m better than your average bronzie :p . Unless you’re on one of those 16 game losing streaks or whatnot.
What I’m getting at is maybe that’s where you belong? This ain’t directed to the guy above me just in general

the fact that you even bother with dailies is impressive.

I’m waiting for an Ithliwen post to make this thread more interesting

this may or may not be relevant, but leeto’s almost at legend with an f2p core necro (a new account) since his main got 2-week-banned

By buying the elite specs of HoT you have a significant advantage over core class users, which you obtain by paying $50. If paying money to have an advantage over someone who didn’t(whether it’s an f2p nub or a 3 year sceptical veteran) is not pay2win then what is it?
This isn’t a rhetorical/sarcastic question btw
And before anyone comes up with the good ol’ ad hominem; I got more than enough money to get HoT and choose not to :p the cancer is still there even if i join it

nope, just conquest

This is not a QQ post about queue times, I’m not too bothered since i don’t play that often. I’m curious as to why i get 7 minute queues in emerald while before the alleged MM fix(i believe) i rarely got more than 3-4 minutes.
Just for information purposes I have about 2.3k games, with a maybe 45% win ratio(yeah I’m not too good) dunno why matchmaking struggles when I’m not really ahead of those in emerald.
Just to reiterate, I’m not complaining/raging, I’m genuinely curious, is it normal to get 7 minute Queue time in emerald? The only reasoning I could find is that everyone hit Ruby or something lol

The problem is the Reaper spec not chill itself as evidenced by the complaints which only appeared post HoT. Nerf reaper’s chil application not the condi.
And before anyone calls me out as a salty mesmer i main necro

do you know how how many puppies i’ll eat for constant 100 ping? i play this game at 160 ok, but ive tried it at 100 and there’s a world of difference

Ithilwen.1529:

Look, Mesmer just got kicked clean out of the meta by this sort of QQ thread. Please go complain about something else. I’d suggest thief.

You got what you wanted. Mesmer is dead. GO AWAY

AHAHAHAHAHAAAAA

chill has been here for 3 years; 0 complaints, only post HoT has it become a problem with reapers, reaper’s(not core necro) chill application should be nerfed, not the condi itself…
And I’m a necro main before anyone calls me out as an ele ele/mesm main :p

Shovel Face.4512:

MAN.9046:

the amount of trolls on forums requires toning down :p

Oh the irony…

who said im referring to you unless you consider yourself a troll and thus feel the need to reply

the amount of trolls on forums requires toning down :p

lol we need to hire someone to follow you around the forums, and writer after everyone one of your posts how you’re a notorious forum troll; people get b8’ed too easily

the Idiots at anet want you to have less dodges, and thus have a better chance at getting chain CC’d, idiots…

nah, pve heroes need the legendary wiings too y’know

Calypso.2578:

MAN.9046:

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/15blyat

LOL, what. Did he actually send those?

yep; he got a 3 day ban for those haha

Ara.4569:

Haha Serophous, I had the same idea. These kind of remarks need to be plastered all over in hope that ANet get a clue. They invest absolutely no resources in balance. They are just passively killing the game.

And what is doing Grouch ? I believe he did more for the game when he held his “state of the game” stream, asking embarrassing questions to anet staff, than now. And yes I know it’s not his job at all. I just thought he was passionate about the game.

“passively killing the game”
tfw passives are OP right now

Impact.2780:

Lordrosicky.5813:

The balance patch will make things worse not better. Wait and see.

It will just be more buffs to things like passive procs. Maybe now you get all 6 trait lines! Hurray. And probably be some other change like. Now you can’t move in HOTM whilst you queue. Or they removed ranks.

lol

- Infiltrator’s Return: This skill has been removed

10/10 i lol’d

Supreme.3164:

I would not expect much…condi reaper is listed as newbie friendly, so these kind of threads are to be expected

majority of HoT meta builds are kinda newb friendly though, spam rotations on point and never die cuz invuln/heals/evades/protection lol

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/15blyat

/15espartzzzzzzzz

HoT failed in terms of PvP that’s for sure no other game out there has its viewers on Twitch and forum users actively trash the devs/game lol.
I love this game but HoT ruined PvP with the elite specs :/

espartz
/15proleegz

Cynz.9437:

Here is the problem: BnS and co. are not GW2 killer. GW2 killed itself in this case (or Anet rather). I am sure if GW2 was still fun people would stick to it no matter what other games came out, but gven state of pvp/wvw and pve atm, i am sure a lot of people would rather play ANYTHING that resembles fun than gw2 atm. People are not switching because omg game XY is better but because gw2 just sucks.

this sooo much. tfw i wanna play gw2 but i cant; It just ain’t fun anymore

Valkyriez.6578:

Go read the forums of any single mmorpg or moba or whatever genre out there that has PvP, don’t worry I’ll wait.

Done? Sweet. I hope you noticed they all sound exactly the same as this one. Regardless of game, if it has PvP, it has people who think it’s the worst ever and isn’t worth the time.

well, I play smite and check the forums/reddit on a regular basis. It has no where near the amount of complaint/QQ there. Not to mention that Twitch chat in Smitegame is actually talking about the game, rather than spamming “thanks Anet/balance your game”. Wanna know why? Cuz this game is actually in a dismal state, unlike some other games.
I’m inclined to think that you haven’t looked at any other game’s forums, since you seem to think they’re all rampant with QQ like this one (and for good reason)
Again let me re-iterate a reply i wrote to you once on an old topic:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/pvp/Deleted-19/first#post5886269

Yasi.9065:

I was at this point too, when I started playing pvp again after xpac pve rampage. I was like: what the kitten was anet thinking?!?!

Then I changed my build to include only one more stability skill, and added access to quickness once in a while, et voila… Im good again.
Also, a huge help was just playing the game and learning all those new shiny cc skills to dodge them.

Those cc traps from DH? Just dont move and you can outwait them, if you get pulled out -> use some form of invuln or dodge at end of pull and use heal.
DH wards? Well, those are tricky, since about 90% of the time, I dont even see them, making escaping them rather tedious. But thats a bug, not so much a balance thing.
Ranger goes Astral Form? -> dodge, since first skill to 99% is the daze or blind. Or play preemptive, cc druid before he can cc you… after all, druid access to stability is rather limited.
Scrapper field? Please, if you cant see that one coming a mile away, you really are bad. It has a HUGE telegraph.
Chill, taunt and fear can be annoying, but then, those are conditions as well as cc, so you get twice as much possibilities to remove them.

I feel like a huge issue with cc is, that a lot of players dont want to play a build that has focus on countering it (be it with own cc or cc breakers or via positioning), but only want to play oldschool dd thief.

Apropos… thief and warrior are the only professions atm that have the right to complain, since making a build suited to counter any current meta is impossible.
Dont get me wrong, thief and warrior can still rock…. just not against good players.

trying to educate the OP who has probably been PvP’ing since launch and been in tourney’s, lol

Just felt this deserved a thread of its own; seen it a couple of times on here
ESPARTS

Soooo glad i didnt pre-order HoT to “support the devs”. I barely do 2/3 games every few days, I miss playing this game but it aint fun anymore, sure i can pay $50 and play the kittenedly bloated new specs, but all the elements that make this game no longer fun are still there.

play bunker mesmer or cele tempest ele

Leet0 is more than half way thru diamond purely solo q’ing, he did it all on strum

Agemnon.4608:

Etiquette:

Never vote Temple! Seriously, usually it’s one or two people that vote Temple and we all hate them. Like a gentlemen’s agreement not to use Akuma please don’t vote Temple.

Only queue ranked if you have HoT. You’re just gimping your team for those of us who have HoT. A possible exception could be made for dagger/dagger elementalist though staff tempest is simply better since it has attunement overloads and access to auramancer.

well how about no
I vote temple and Khylo EVERY SINGLE GAME, wanna know why? cuz playing the same 2 maps get extremely boring; friggin metamaps and kitten
I’ll queue ranked without HoT all I want, because i don’t want 3 teammates chasing the theif off point , leaving the point neutral, only in unranked

What you’re talking about here isn’t “etiquette” it’s the way you want everyone else to play your precious little game

MirrorOfNature.4279:

KraunK.2319:

Is it possible to maintain two games in one? I’m playing this game since beta and with the release of HoT it’s became to me impossible to play everything at medium-high competitive levels. Even if I have 4 years experience in my backpack, it’s almost impossible to play on equal fights.. Gw2 Core builds have totally different mechanics and are ridiculous underpowered compared to Gw2 HoT. I don’t really get the point why I shouldn’t be offended by such thing. Do you (arenanet) have this in account for people not interested in buy the expansion?

You made the choice of not buying HoT, why the hell are you now -offended-? Do you even realise how redicilous that sound?
If you want to stay competitive in sPvP, buy the expansion, get the new specs and stop your whining.
Every expansion for every MMO ever made some areas of their respective games hard to keep competitive if you haven’t bought their expansion, so… deal-with-it!

why on earth are you advocating paying $50 for staying competitive in a trash game with a trash system?

Reminds me of the idiots in Smite who instalock a Loki or a Thanatos then write in chat “need tank” If u want a guardian to babysit you form a party m8.
/15IrrelevantButKindaRelevantRant