Guild Wars 2

Kaitori.8564:

Petoox.6570:

Kaitori.8564:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iC9r-cIC544

To people saying it’s set up LUL

But… that’s exactly what it is in your video too, do you honestly think you would have dealt that much damage if it wasn’t for the fact that you had 7 Malice, which by the way, takes 10 seconds to build up if you are attacking constantly with rifle.

You make it sound like it’s difficult to stack 7 malice

Well it’s easy but it takes time, longer than you probably should stay in a fight. And anyways, it has a massive indicator who is getting shot so it’s not like it’s very hard to dodge it.

Kaitori.8564:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iC9r-cIC544

To people saying it’s set up LUL

But… that’s exactly what it is in your video too, do you honestly think you would have dealt that much damage if it wasn’t for the fact that you had 7 Malice, which by the way, takes 10 seconds to build up if you are attacking constantly with rifle.

People actually get hit by it? lol.

I don’t know but this http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vZAQNAW4Yn8lCNOhVmCGOBkmiFaCTLAMhiAb5phzeauCuBHhA-TxRBABP8EAITJGAXEAzUCinuhr2fUeQp6PkCYghVA-e build is the second highest dps in the game. Yes it is not Ele level while also having worse utility than Ele but I have no idea what you mean with the part saying that thief has low damage compared to others.

Also easier rotation than Ele because you spam 1, dodge when almost full endurance and use Fist Flurry off cd (atleast use it before break bar appears so you can be ready with Palm Strike cc).

Aenaos.8160:

Petoox.6570:

Play 1 more game and record it please, I’d love to review it and see how “bad” your teammates are.

Tbh 100% you are just super tilted/bad at the game.

That’s excellent and deep commentary on the op’s points.
I’d like to add a few words to that.
Or maybe just one.
Hodor.

I said that because his post was mostly whining because he doesn’t know how to counter classes and has overall 0 knowledge about thief for example. 95% sure he is just awful at the game or simply super titled.

Play 1 more game and record it please, I’d love to review it and see how “bad” your teammates are.

Tbh 100% you are just super tilted/bad at the game.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vZAQNAoaVn0MBlPhFOBmOBkmiFYCTLBEAyAzdwTYL0LNcGaDA-TpBEABmXGIijAgBnAAm2fggHAAAHCAA This is what most high level thieves use.

If you guys think you are so great, record 1 of your lost games and upload it to youtube. 100% people will find mistakes in your rotations, build or pretty much anything.

Seriously guys, just because you are bad thieves and stuck in emerald/sapphire/ruby doesn’t mean the class is bad and can’t carry.

Look at Sindrenerr or Vallun for example, they know how to carry.

Asrat.2645:

You do realize that matchmaking is a gamble? Getting to legend on soloQ is 90% dependant on luck, if you are at least a decent player.
Can you sincerely say that you carried? Did your teams at any point loose a fair fight and only won beacuase of your rotating capabilities.
You might be a good player, but if you ‘carried’ to legendary on thief, I will imply your enemies were below average. And therefore also your teammates if they needed you.
If you got any longer winning streaks past ruby, it is likely you got carried by MM. If you had quite a couple of losses built-in, your statistic might be accurate.

Ok explain me how people like Java have 4 legend accounts? Sure he isn’t playing thief but my point still stands, you can carry easily.

But to answer to your comment, I had few loss streaks, lots of winstreaks with losses between them so I usually didn’t get more than 1 or 2 wins off of my winstreak pips.

Blade and Soul combat is super clunky.

Stealth tracking turning while stunned bots making pvp completely worthless.

BnS pvp is basically based on stun/daze locking people and spamming your same 1 combo over and over until you meet Summoner and you are going to get destroyed unless you are actually Destroyer. Fun…

Azukas.1426:

Petoox.6570:

Thief is easily best carry in soloq if you have any idea how to rotate.

edit: I’d also rate warrior, dh and druid lower than thief in average games too.

No

Thief is bad carry when you start getting up in the divisions. Players tend to know how to play and can shut a thief down with ease

Somehow I soloq carried to legend with thief. Idk bad class obviously.

Thief is easily best carry in soloq if you have any idea how to rotate.

edit: I’d also rate warrior, dh and druid lower than thief in average games too.

I don’t know what are you smoking but seriously, do you really think giving mesmer 60% damage reduction is good? Bulwark gyro, Rise! and dwarf passive trait are kittened enough with their 50%.

I liked it until I got to the Queue Simulator 2016 part which is basically me playing other games.

That’s not elo hell, that’s tilt. Take a break.

2 duoqeue games during whole time (and even lost both lmao) and I’m legend. It’s not that hard.

http://i.imgur.com/9OuqSif.jpg thief confirmed op

edit: 95% of my games played were on thief. Purely soloqueue.

tbh only really good build is scholar d/p with dash.

These kinds of suggestions are probably why Anet never reads Thief forums lmao

Atleast it isn’t 1 of those terrible T3 cultural looks right`?

Ragnarox.9601:

Engies are most balanced atm, Reapers and Heralds are hands down twice better cause they are OP.

lmao what have you been smoking, engi is far from balanced.

Mini Llamas. Get https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Mini_Lavish_Llama this one. You need 27 Mini Llamas for it.

Dash >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bound

Moving fast is just waaaaaaaaaay too important.

Yes this is ok.

Bwadark.2519:

You are aware we have quite a large skill cap? The sustain is from the fields. Save CC for when he plays a water field. Scrapper doesn’t need a nerf, you need to improve.

Also please think about PvE. A 20% damage reduction? That’s a massive hit for what is our only strong power based weapon.

Here’s another weakness. Conditions. Hit us with conditions and we fall. Thank you!

Scrapper with meta build is stupidly easy though. Only 1 kit to take care and free ticket out of jail Sneak Gyro. It’s easy as hell to play Scrapper and it’s pretty op to be honest.

You got it from adventure, instead of going to beta character’s inv, it went into your actual account’s inventory.

Eurantien.4632:

Without these pets druid would never kill anything unfortunately.

Yes you would, if you actually went with damage instead of trying to be as tanky as possible and heal/buff your pet.

imMB.3258:

Raid tank is not som1 who can take alot of hits, his role is just to decide were boss will go.
(1400 thougnes thief work just fine)

so best tank on raid is the one who can give another factors like dps, buffs or healing.

1005 toughness thief is fine, as long as your healer if with magi/zealot/berserker.

tbh Scrapper is broken. And before you say l2p, I mean from personally playing as Scrapper.

Any decent player will faceroll you playing that build.

Kuya.6495:

So is the 25k only for sabetha due to damage on adds or can a hammer DH hit 25k on VG too?

Probably can because VG has super low toughness.

BlaqueFyre.5678:

Petoox.6570:

I don’t know. Thief forums are probably worst possible place, you guys are so kittening terrible at the game.

Thief was fine even before balance patch, meta was bit too tanky but thief did not need damage buffs.

Currently, thief is broken in my opinion.

We never asked for Damage buff we asked for sustain, Anet in their infinite wisdom gave us Damage buff instead. Sad really 90% of Thieves will agree we did not need a damage buff.

Where do you need sustain? +1 fights and end them quickly and you won’t need sustain. Ending fights is easy with Scholar D/P

I don’t know. Thief forums are probably worst possible place, you guys are so kittening terrible at the game.

Thief was fine even before balance patch, meta was bit too tanky but thief did not need damage buffs.

Currently, thief is broken in my opinion.

lol.

/15forumskittenposters

Varezenem.2813:

Dagger AA is getting buffed by 30%. Sword AA will get a speed increase (30%) being stronger than rev sword AA now and acrobatics is getting some sustain improvements. Withdraw is getting the 10% heal buff that it was supposed to have.

Better than Rev sword autoattack? What are you smoking..?

Not complaining, I love the sword buffs but Rev sword auto will still be better.

http://i.imgur.com/ZON2eTT.png you won’t do this with thief sword.

Bristleback doesn’t even need to use F2 to basically 1 shot heavy golem, all it needs is to be positioned correctly and get it to use Rain of Spikes. Stacks 1,7k tick bleed and kills golem basically instantly.

Spartacus.5243:

Petoox.6570:

Spartacus.5243:

Sorel.4870:

Petoox.6570:

tbh this http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vZAQNAoaVn0MBlPhlOBGOBkmiFYCzLNcGaDzdwTYLULBEAyAA-TpBEABAcEAYa/BDOBAE8AAe4QAYeZAA is best thief build.

I believe you are right. This build and its variations are probably the best builds if you play a “traditional” thief, meaning you try to outnumber and end fights quickly.

incorrect m8. my build does that job better. jokes on you. its better in team fights and ends fights 9001x quicker also better in outnumbering cuz my build has extra dodges compared to that build so more mobility. Also just believe urejt and me when we say. CS does more dmg than DA. even when DA has executioner. srs. just watch my stream if you want confirmation

What if I don’t want to watch your kittenty ruby stream? What if I prefer to watch Vallun’s or Sinderer’s stream, both using this build with most likely better success than you use your build.

Then it is your loss because it is in fact less likely that they have more success because my build is superior

How is it superior? Once you get out of Ruby you find out that people can actually walk out of your Vault spam, d/p does not have that problem.

Also you can’t spam Vault in teamfights because of Shocking Aura (assuming enemies have Tempest, well 90% of teams have one) and enemies have 40% reduced damage (Protection from Tempest) your Vault won’t do kitten.

Spartacus.5243:

Sorel.4870:

Petoox.6570:

tbh this http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vZAQNAoaVn0MBlPhlOBGOBkmiFYCzLNcGaDzdwTYLULBEAyAA-TpBEABAcEAYa/BDOBAE8AAe4QAYeZAA is best thief build.

I believe you are right. This build and its variations are probably the best builds if you play a “traditional” thief, meaning you try to outnumber and end fights quickly.

incorrect m8. my build does that job better. jokes on you. its better in team fights and ends fights 9001x quicker also better in outnumbering cuz my build has extra dodges compared to that build so more mobility. Also just believe urejt and me when we say. CS does more dmg than DA. even when DA has executioner. srs. just watch my stream if you want confirmation

What if I don’t want to watch your kittenty ruby stream? What if I prefer to watch Vallun’s or Sinderer’s stream, both using this build with most likely better success than you use your build.

tbh this http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vZAQNAoaVn0MBlPhlOBGOBkmiFYCzLNcGaDzdwTYLULBEAyAA-TpBEABAcEAYa/BDOBAE8AAe4QAYeZAA is best thief build.

Acro rework \o/

I’ve been running this http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vdAQFAUnUUBVXhtoCeZB0ehlJjKc7SmwiOur7/W8ZKgAA-TpAZABdu/AAlBAA it has extra knockback from rifle and no elixir gun (only kit being mortar) but it’s actually not that bad.

Petoox.6570:

I’m loving Berserker’s amulet Hammer Sword/Shield build. Got like 80% winrate with it in soloq.

I’m loving my Berserker’s Hammer Sword/Shield build. Got like 80% winrate with it in soloq.

Urejt.5648:

its good pve, best dps, but pvp its trash tier

Thief sucks in pve too, utility is worse than what other classes have, dps is not best. Condi Engi, Condi Berserker, Tempest and Herald have better dps than thief.

Vault is really good already. I feel like it’s going to be nerfed with balance patch lol.

1 million, spammed Vault against 2 MM necros.

Nah, I’d love off hand Sword.

Jesse.4631:

Now that Ogre Rune has been removed anyone know which is the best constant DPS rune available now? Besides Scholar xD

Pack, likely.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vZAQJAWVn0MBlPhlOBGOBkmiFYCzLNEHaDzdwR4KULBEA2NA-TpBFABCcBAEvMA77P02RAYhDBAAPAAA This is Caed’s (top tier thief player) build which is pretty good, it’s not that hard to play either.