So this basically confirmed what we were expecting. Why have they wasted so much time delving around Fractal Leaderboards when it was clear from the start it was a flawed concept?
And they keep going at it: they said they’re not done with that just yet. Seriously? This isn’t how an iterative process should be like at all. Things should be filtered right out the bat to avoid wasting time in failed concepts.
They keep on rebuilding and “laying foundations” but no buildings are actually being built. They need to turn that ship around while they can (can they still?)
Just got word that Colin is leaving and Mike O’Brien is taking a double-job post. Is this a good thing for dungeons/raids challenging content in general, considering his latest endeavours? Meanwhile while they don’t find a replacement for the job, does this game need an outside person to come in and shake things up more than never?
Then I go to another raid and its like a circus, people dieing left and right, people going AFK for long periods of time wasting everyone’s food
Holy kitten, that sounds like a horrible circus. Nevermind people dying in front of me while I’m trying to watch the kitten clown, but they’re wasting MY food, MY popcorns? Hell no!!
Not only are we doing gear checks, DPS checks, our raid team will have to send in Age verification, No one under 18 will be taken on our Raid team.
Chew on that one for awhile.
That might actually prevent future conflict. When you know, stuff starts to fail. People cant blame on gear or whatever, and will just keep trying instead of trying to find flaws
Maybe they should have allowed Whiteside to do it the right way. He left because he saw this Elitist type of content ripping the fabric right away from the Casual Gamer that built the Guild Wars franchise.
The kittens acted like kittens, and got slapped down. Nothing to see here, move along.
If you ever encountered them in game, it was easy to see this result.
What the kitten?
Guild Wars franchise was not casual.
The outlier here isnt “raids” or GW1. GW2 base launch was the outlier. It went to a completely casual direction, different from the predecessor
I really think DnT’s branch in guild wars 2 should not be blamed for what the DnT twitter account did. Obviously Nike still tweeted the #first which is a little childish but I feel like Anet is going overkill with the punishment. maybe just remove them from the next wing of testing. not my decision though and im not going to be to upset as it doesn’t really matter. although i still feel like should have been done behind closed doors and not public. Also I would like to know how quickly the beat it (obviously it wasnt the 15min) but if they beat it in any time under 40min then I feel like we need to be focusing on that and how short the raids will be once everyone else will get them down. I would really like to know how quickly they were able to beat it so we could get some idea of how much content the raids actually are
DnT already tested the 2 other wings. Anet said so.
Nearly 90% of the game is designed for those players. GW2 is incredibly successful, has won numerous prestigious accolades, and has a very high concurrency for players three years after initial release; for all intents and purposes it’s faring splendidly.
Now count 2 and 2 together, will you? The game is greatly intended for “casual” players and it is doing well. Could it be that it is doing well BECAUSE it is intended for “casual” players?
Or.. You know, because of the business model?
Do you really think GW2 would be alive right now with a subscription fee like Wildstar did?
People who say W* died because it was hardcore are clueless. The game wasnt worth a sub fee.
Guild Wars 2 would be dead on the ground for a long time ago if it had a subscription fee. Would you say it failed because it was too much casual then?
In response some of their guild attempted to clutch at straws with an NDA arguement saying they was “Not able to tell people they was testing” when the first post in this thread from a MONTH AGO clearly says they are testing it.
Wrong.
They said the NDA didnt allow them for the tester to properly identify as such. That means everyone knew DnT was testing, but we couldnt know WHO was testing. It was not the entire DnT guild, only a few.
For once, I don’t mind another “Open World Boss guild” (like this one) to become a raid tester. At least they are openly honest about their skill level and genuinely excited about and committed to a challenge that it is refreshing to see their opinions on it.
Rather than some individuals think they are better than everyone else, but always try to taxi to the “Open World Boss Guild”- organizing maps to profit off others’ hard labor.
Just my two cents.
Also, congratulations to DnT for the world #first removal.
Iris, genuine excitement and happy faces do not help in testing a raid catered to the extreme and only the best players, does it?
The raid testing needs to be pushed to extremes, not to the happy middle ground. If the latter is the case, raids are just dungeons or high level fractals. And they were supposed to be something more.
Thats why they need to get another dedicated guild on track. I can’t suggest any names because I dont wanna discredit anyone I didnt mention. I know there are guilds in here more than capable of doing this.
The more room you allow for error, the more people can join in a raid and in contrast, the more mistakes that can be made and the less of a chance for a firm meta to be born.
This does NOT mean things will not be hard.
The more room you allow for error, the easier the raid is.
Team of bearbows, it would make for the safest and most effective way to successfully beat the boss with little chance of failure.
Dude are you trolling?
Effective doesnt mean what you think it means.
DPS Checkers exist exactly for that reason: to prevent kittened builds that are braindead to play and extremely safe and tanky to be able to just afk or chill through a raid encounter.
DPS check keeps them on their toes. Let me remind you that the main objective in PvE is to kill the enemies. Not to outlast them and see who dies first from old age.
This guy is mad about DPS Checks but is okay with, and actually suggests, that teams that “defeat a boss in under 5 minutes are triple rewarded”. Are you seriously that naive?
You know what will happen? Exactly what you tried to foolishly stop on your first point.
No one wants to get 1/3 of the rewards.
Another fundamental flaw in your logic: by adding 3x the rewards if the boss is completed in <X minutes, that means your Boss is already nerfed by default.
A raid boss should be extremely difficult to kill. The challenge shouldnt lie in killing him in less that X time. Thats just downleveling yout encounter that was supposed to be extremely hard in the first place.
So many posts about dungeons and has Anet even responded to us? I really hope they read these posts and realize people loved dungeons and still want to do them!!
Meh. If the community loved dungeons as much as you claim, they’d still be running them on a regular basis even with the decreased rewards.
Guess they really were more of a chore, after all.
Why do you would run content if you need gold/currency to progress towards a goal when said content doesn’t help you reaching that goal at all?
Most people want some new skins, gear or whatever else, it only makes sense to try to combine fun with rewards.
Get your common sense out of here! This isnt the place for it!
They could 2 Ranged adds in the Mai Trinn cannon phase (for high level Fracs) whose only attack is a 3 seconds channel that will stun you if it hits you, forcing you to save dodges for it while evading cannon AoEs.
still no sign of any developer. i feel like a unwanted, neglected child. NO HOPE? (…i assume not, but u can craft it in a few weeks…)
it feels like they put more work in halloween than to fractals
While the number of people farming dungeons is likely to go down a LOT, I suspect in time the quality of the experience will go up once I don’t have to do alongside speed runners and people demanding ‘all zerker’ groups
This was my question to a Dev way before patch. It went unanswered and un-iterated upon. Now you see a rise of players complaining about there being less variety in fractals you do because of the new daily system coupled with fixed islands.
This could have been avoided if they had read and gave us feedback
Based on my data, Archdiviner did 7682-8663 damage with his swing prepatch on scale 1 and 18644-21024 damage on scale 50. If he now does 4k on scale 59, something is seriously wrong.
Considering they restructured fractals to be casual friendly, I can see why they nerf-batted them.
Refering to my old napkin math fractal comment, Old FOTM lvl 10 is now New FOTM lvl 40
That game has some serious graphics. But I heard there are no dungeons and devs are making it directed for casual play, is a korean casual MMO even a thing? Or is it the first haha
Uhhh… The video title has “Ancient Ruins Dungeon” in it, so I guess that answers the first part of your question
Also kitten , that ice storm looks and sounds magnificient.
It isnt a real dungeon, just an area with slighty tougher mobs. The whole game is very easy
I was expecting to see some discussion about new builds, specs, coms but all I read were complaints
I’m all ready to do some theory-crafting and testing but it was pretty depressing seeing my hero points at 0/400 with 0 specialization unlocked… Can’t do anything till I grind them out
That game has some serious graphics. But I heard there are no dungeons and devs are making it directed for casual play, is a korean casual MMO even a thing? Or is it the first haha
I simply asked a honest question because I value this subcommunity opinion.
Anyone can go around and from time to time drop bitter/mean remarks like breadcrumbs for others to stumble upon and stare in awe, but we don’t do that right? Because we’re civilized. Maybe some people need to be reminded of such.
Are you saying Elite Specs are outright better than the base Speccs? Because if you are, you are contradicting Anet who claimed they are just “different” that “they shouldnt be better or worse”.
Which would make nowadays PvP look like Pay2Advantage.
Their metacritic review illustrates the fact that there are a portion of players kittened off with the expansion. For all its worth its just a dumb review anyways
