Guild Wars 2

I play only female toons. No male ones and i’m male.

It really has to do with how secure you are with yourself. Why does it even bother you? You need to really think about it.

As for me. If i’m going to be looking at something for hours on end I’d rather it be a females rear then a mans lol

Hello everyone!

I’d like to discuss with you an “issue” that i have with main/alt characters:

I main Thief and have something around 2000 hours on it, on the other hand, all my other 7 characters together hardly have 250.

The problem is: i would like to spend time on other toons, specially Elementalist that i really like, however, whenever i log to play with her, i get the feeling that i’m “wasting time that i could be using to do something more productive for my main”, and also there’s gear issue, my Thief is the only one full ascended, and i don’t really want to spend the money/time to craft a second set of ascended armor.

I would like to know if i’m the only one with this “issue” and if there are others, what do you do to mitigate this feeling?

Thanks!!

Rin.1046:

tldr: GW2’s loot system is excessive in quantity and poor in quality. It needs to change before it drives me away from the game again. I want to enjoy GW2, but poorly implemented systems like this make it difficult.

I have been playing GW2 since launch, but over the recent few months I have hardly played at all (I just log in for the login rewards then log straight back out again). The game just doesn’t hold my attention any more. I don’t know fully why that is, I think it is a combination of many minor things that get on my nerves. These issues individually are hardly anything on their own, but collectively they all add up and make the game more frustrating than entertaining. That said, I recently pinpointed one of the bigger issues that is really annoying me and I wanted to express my views on it.

I have started playing again recently, mainly to do the new living story stuff (which I am enjoy… loving Canach!), but one thing really hit me yesterday, something that is really starting to get on my nerves now and I think it is one of the contributing factors that is putting me off the game. And that something is the excessive amount of worthless loot you get. This has always kind of been present in GW2, from the start, but it seems to have been getting a lot worse since HoT.

The problem is you get sooo much crap these days and even though they are trying to make it better, by stacking some of it in bags, your inventory still fills up way too quickly and with stuff that is 99% worthless. I have two major issues with this setup:

1) It breaks the flow of the gameplay far too frequently. I start enjoying the meta events and other activities around the map, but it is not long before I have to stop and clear my inventory, which, thanks to all the loot bags, takes a fair amount of time to process. So by the time I have finished clearing my inventory the event I was in has ended or I have missed out on some other events in the area that started while I was cleaning up the crap. It can take a good 20+ minutes clearing your inventory sometimes, which is not what I call entertaining, when all I want to do is go from event to event having fun. My game time is limited these days and the last thing I want to play is Inventory Manager 2016.

2) Almost all loot is worthless. At the end of the day most of it just amounts to extra gold, and to be honest I would rather just get the gold direct, rather than having to spend time processing it (while adventuring) before I can spend it. The ‘rewards’ are not rewarding, they are frustrating. And even if you didn’t have to clean out your inventory that often, the rewards you get just aren’t enjoyable, at all. Why, at max level and in full ascended gear, would I want to get 50 blue weapons and armour pieces?! If you want to give me materials or money, just give me it directly, don’t force me to perform the tedious task of salvaging and selling huge quantities of junk. It’s just a complete waste of inventory space and a frustrating activity that I do not want to have to do.

Looking at it the other way, the good rewards are so infrequent in GW2 you just don’t FEEL like you are getting rewarded. You know, those rewards that give you a moment of surprise and joy when you receive them, like an exotic or ascended item. I could play GW2 for months on end and get nothing of worth. I’m not asking for an exotic drop every 5 minutes, but you should feel like a few hours of play are rewarding and currently they are not.

To be continued…

I think the same way as you do. There should be loot that feels rewarding. A weapon that is only dropped by a specific boss that is actually good (stats+design) instead of some crafting materials a chest and maybe a trophy. In order to make boss drops ever more enjoyable just make the boss harder.

Yeah I know but there really isn’t a difrence between a drake dropping ble leather armor or some piece of hide. The result is you get leather because you are not going to use that armor anyway.

Hide would be stackable and thus easier because it takes less space in your inventory.

They have this system why not expand on this instead of the bags in bags if the result is the same anyway.

yeah, mobs dropping leather, scales or mats to craft armor would make much more sense and be stackable too.

I think mobs should just not drop as much weapons, armor and trinkets. It would be far nicer if mobs just droped salvagable stuff instead (because in the end all the blues and greens are just a source for mats anyway). And it would also make the game more immersive because they can make it so drops make more sense.

IndigoSundown.5419:

My biggest beef about the various currencies is not that they exist. It’s that they take up space in my bags. If the game is going to award such a thing for every zone (or more than one — looking at shovels and bandit keys), it would be nice to have a key chain/currency purse.

I agree with this.

Turning map specific items a currency that occupies no inventory space would already fix 70% of the problem. We would still have issues with the lack of excitement of finding new loot, but inventory management is indeed the worst part IMO.

To fix the excitement part, maybe they should do something like adding at least a guaranteed good quality reward after a long chain of events. I have to say I enjoyed when in Diablo 3 they added those guaranteed great drops after killing bosses, since at least this way I had a goal to pursue when logging on.

Ive been working away a lot for the last few months and haven’t had time to stay ‘on top’ of loot – and I realised just how bad it was at the weekend…

I decided to open up all the champion bags, Hot event boxes, PvP track chests and ascended salvager gifts that had collected across all 9 characters

It took me the better part of 4 days worth of play time ( I normally only get 2-3 hours when I do play) all spent moving, opening, sorting ,salvaging and selling and organising results between characters

- and for my troubles I only got 1 ascended weapon box ( I was opening all magic find boxes of which a had quite a few under the Mists buff of 200%) 1 ascended ring, 2 unique exotic weapons worth under 3G each and 1 exotic leg piece worth 1G.

Personally I don’t think 6 items considered ‘good’ from hundreds of chests with magic find buffed up like crazy is reasonable, I also don’t think its reasonable that as my magic find has increased over time ive actually been getting ore and more white items because 1. loot tables appeared to be nerfed when HoT arrived, 2. magic find isn’t worth kitten these days due to Anet deliberately removing most of the loot from being affected by magic find in the first place.

Its the ONE thing that puts me off the game for large periods of time its not ‘fun’ to save all these godkitten boxes up only to get a tiny amount of actual usable items the rest being mats that have to be stored/sold/organised into more items I can make/store/sell

Its just not satisfying….

Would have been much better to implement a new system with 4 different maps, instead of having 3 copies of the old map back.

It isn’t them fixing everything on the list that is concerning, it is HOW they are proposing to fix them that is the biggest problem here. Before this poll should have even been considered, they should have shown different ways to solve the problem and considered the numerous alternatives that are much better than their proposed solutions. If all of the solution’s being offered are bad and fail to address the core problem, a bad poll is just bad.
end game for the proposed solutions = PvD undefended objective, KIll NPC get Chest, Siege it to the teeth, Zerg avoid fight get i n tower siege hump and kill 5 ppl outside . This only matters during 6 hour period, everyone else outside of that time left game already.

As long as PvD undefended + zerg siege humping is the way to win END GAME is YB 2.0 for all servers eventually, + devalue players outside of prime time = kill the game faster because this is bad/ lame game play that treats players like crap.

What’s holding S/P back is the .75s wind up for the stun. This is the only skill that has a shorter CC than its cast time in the whole game.

If the cast time was .25 seconds, S/P would be competitive instantly.

Kicker.8203:

Pulmonary is too good not to interrupt every autoattack with headshot. Used to be better when u had to time your headshot to key moments.
Has to be nerfed in some way. I’d accept any of these: much lower dmg / internal CD /rework.

I don’t really have a problem with Pulm as of now, but I wouldn’t mind an ICD. The trait is meant to be very effective at killing glassy classes, which it is, but it isn’t really useful in anything outside of 1v1s. Not very good in actual PvP. Plus, you sacrifice survivability for it, and it can easily be countered by stab. While it is annoying to fight sometimes, it can easily be worked around. So I really don’t think it needs changed tbh.

Cyanon.1928:

Evan Lesh.3295:

I feel like 24/7 ladder would create a lot of burnout.

Thats correct Evan, off season is very important because it give us time to learn new classes, diff builds, take breaks, mess around, play for fun (the ultimate purpose of any game). Competing all the time is not fun for all the people.

Additionally, many competitive players tend to bee too emotional for ranked and they start their insults rhetoric since first fight of the match is lost. Thus, destroying the community aspect of the game. This is something your metrics don’t show, but people are a lot nicer off-season in comparison to season.

I love the idea of having breaks between seasons. Am I actually enjoying the off season a lot because I’m playing many diff builds on several toons. Its very good experience!

You aren’t forced to compete at all, Unranked Queue is 100% available at all times, on and off season.

However, for the people that do want to be competitive and enjoy a high level of competition, their venue is now removed, and that exact behavior that you dislike and described is now forced to clash with a population of players with different “goals” for playing (if not playing a competitive game mode competitively can be considered a goal).

You aren’t EVER forced to queue into ranked, aka the more competitive setting, so it’s hard to understand why you’d want to take away the venue for players aiming to play more competitively, when with both queues are open, the player base can at least coexist.

I was struggling with the decision to make a post regarding this. I decided to go ahead so people can understand how upsetting this action is from someone who was witness to these activities and how it affected me.

First off I’m not a young player. I am in my 40’s. I am an avid Star Wars fan. I have seen every movie since the franchise began usually on it’s opening or shortly thereafter. It was something I looked forward to, became a close family activity that endured over the years. With the announcement of Star Wars The Force Awakens, the excitement was rekindled all over again. I have eagerly been awaiting it’s release since the announcement. I was very careful to stay clear of any speculation regarding the movie and I wanted to be fully surprised with a clear head of nothing but the anticipation and excitement of another Star Wars movie.

Well things have changed from when Episode 3 premiered and now. Currently I am permanently disabled. As such there are special needs I have in order for me to actually be able to watch this movie. This limited the number of theaters and showtimes I could see. Only a certain number of auditoriums at my local theater are accessible by me. So this time the earliest available time I’m able to go is tomorrow 12/22. This was the earliest time due to my lack of mobility and disabilities which I have no control over. Remember I’m not looking for pity, I want you to understand.

So recently I was in Lion’s Arch doing my thing. I don’t typically have map chat turned off because I usually answer questions for some new players or even ask for help myself in map chat. That’s one great thing about the community is that there are still people who do want to help one another. Well all of a sudden an individual starts spamming in map chat spoilers for the movie and bragged how he saw it opening night and was ruining it for everyone just because he could as he stated. I didn’t want to cause any drama in map chat so I whispered this individual and pleaded to him to stop that I had not seen the movie, was very excited and would really appreciate it if he would not take that away from me. His reply was a key pivotal plot spoiler that pretty much gave me the outcome of the movie. Then he began calling me names so I did in fact block and report him for “verbal abuse”. But the damage was already done. All I had done to avoid any form of speculation or spoiler was ruined in an instant. For the sole purpose to grief people.

With that said I’m still looking forward to seeing the movie tomorrow because it’s another reason for my family to get together as we’ve done for many years regarding the Star Wars trilogy. But that doesn’t diminish what this person took away from me for no reason but to be a troll.

I have faith that CS will determine an adequate punishment for those doing this maliciously. I know the difference in openly discussing the movie and actually trolling in an attempt to cause players grief. The griefers are the players who should be punished. A ban may be too harsh. But a week long map chat ban I think would really teach people that trolling/griefing isn’t acceptable behavior.

My hope is that people will now have a better understanding of why this type of behavior is just plain wrong. Put yourself in another person’s shoes before you judge.

Thanks for listening! May the force be with you!

I’m surprised there isn’t more complaints about mastery points hidden behind JPs, which is a more core function right now. Shoulders are a luxury item.

Wryscher.1432:

Vayne.8563:

Manthas.6234:

Vayne.8563:

Nope you don’t have to say that. Nor do you have to trot out trite words like lazy to express your dissatisfaction which is a lazy way to complain, and an offensive one.

Anet can’t be lazy, because Anet isn’t a person. Anet is a company comprised of people. It is extremely likely that a percentage of employees of any company are in fact lazy, but the company itself can’t be lazy unless you’re personifying it. Whether you’re a developer, a customer or a norse god is not really relevant to the conversation.

You chose to use a word some would consider to be an insult and directed it at a group of 300 people. So unless every single one of those people is lazy, you’re doing a disservice to them, and you’re potentially being offensive.

If I were working really hard on something and someone called me lazy, yes, I’d take offense. Last I’ll say on the subject since to anyone reading it, this was obvious a while ago. Only someone deliberately ignoring what I’m saying would keep going and what I’m saying is factual. You can’t call a company lazy, without impugning everyone in the company.

Really? Are we really talking about how word “lazy” should be used? Ok.

First of all, be honest with yourself. I’m pretty sure you were not running around at release (when reviews were glowing) saying how we can’t praise Anet, because it’s not a person. There still could have been one slacking programmer, you know

Secondly, companies have personalities, in fact, they’re juridical persons. Companies are not the people working for them. For example, 2 of 3 Anet founders have left the company, does it meen Anet is no longer Anet? No. It’s still the same company, even though it changed over the years (people change too, right?). Companies could be good, evil, corrupt and yes, lazy. Its personality is represented by:
1) the people working there. It’s usually the senior officers, but there’re a lot of exceptions. In Anet case, that would be every red post we see on forums. Yes, there’s a living human being with the name who says something on those forums, but in the end, we remember that it was the Anet, who said that thing. Anet can’t go behind that persons back and say: “Dont look at me, it was he who said you that the fractal rewards will be fixed” (yeah, I know it’s still December).
2) its work. It this case that would be the expansion. And if someone, who had the ability and resources to produce something good, presents me a half-finished product… well, I have a pretty nice word to describe that person.

Basically, you say that I can’t call Anet lazy, because that would hurt their feelings. Well, it’s the reality talking and guys from South Park even made an episode about this. Saying anything else just gives them a wrong message that they could get away with this. No, they can’t.
Yes, you could say that my critisim is not constructive. But how can I been constructive when all I want to say is “give me more stuff for the money I paid”?

If you’re defending your use of lazy to describe a group of people, my conversation with you is pretty much over. Using a legal fiction to create some type of reality is what lawyers do. It’s offensive to call people lazy if you don’t know how hard the work and doing so only makes your argument weak. Surely you can complain without inventing stuff.

As for getting your money’s worth, you’re absolutely entitled to that opinion. I have no problem with you feeling that.

But using the word lazy? I can have no respect for that argument.

By the gods do I love you. You are so freaking good at this.

But i am curious because he actually makes a valid point. Is there a list of words that you are ok using to describe a company? Just the positive ones then?

I’m not sure it’s necessary to malign the company to critique the game at all. Look, I’m a professional editor and I’ve been in my critique group settings. Nothing like what appears on this forums would be allowed. I’m also older and find a lot of stuff to be disrespectful and rude.

So it’s very easy to say, I don’t feel like the expansion has enough content for what I paid. I expected more. That’s a perfectly valid criticism. It doesn’t impugn the devs. It doesn’t blame or set fault. It states it as a fact.

Saying that the devs are lazy is not constructive, it helps no one, not a single person and it’s almost definitely untrue. If Anet has an issue it’s more likely to be an organizational one than one of laziness.

But again, I don’t work there, I don’t see the devs every day and I think it’s bad to draw conclusions about them based on the game. If I want to critique something an author wrote, I focus on the work. I don’t use language to malign the author.

I could say you’re too lazy to have done the research but who does that help?

Directions unclear, rolled warrior in pvp.

KKaelyn.5904:

PopeUrban.2578:

Sungtaro.6493:

Personally, I find open world PvP tedious. It lacks overall strategic importance in its gameplay and does not feature any higher level tactical and/or strategic coordination.

Ultimately, I find those games shallow.

So, basically, just like WvW. Objectives that mean nothing, produce no rewards, and can not be held for any meaningful length of time.

WvW is just as shallow as any random open world gankfest. You’re just randomly ganking buildings. That’s the primary problem with WvW. Good siege implementations actually attach benefits to owning and holding territory for the players that hold them.

I can earn more gold losing wvw than winning wvw. Score is pointless and awards nothing of material value. Being attached to allies based on server selection in stead of by choice makes the teams meaningless.

RvR in general is an annoying concept, but its an absolutely stupid concept when it doesn’t even award your realm anything for winning

Ganking people in obsidian sanctum has deeper and more strategic gameplay than the rest of wvw combined. There’s an actual objective with an actual reward that you can actually deny your enemy from obtaining.

Seems we are both playing a different MMO. The MMO I am playing (GW2 and Hot) a reward means to be given something of value or one of the currencies designed by GW2 to be used in game to acquire game items. When I take a camp, tower keep or Stonemist castle with those I run with I am rewarded with several currencies’ within the game. If I hit any of the vet’s or champs I get bags if I kill any player or assist in killing any player I am rewarded with bags. I believe that constitutes a reward by this MMO’s standards. I also acquire wxp and experience.
Their are rewards to your world just very few pay any attention. If you have no idea what I am talking about it seems you don’t play much Wvw (hint even the pve players on your world benefits from how well your server plays without stepping one foot into Wvw so yes there is a server benefit.)
Please by all means losing to gain more gold is new to me please explain that statement in greater detail. I would really like to know how this is accomplished.
Wvw might be an annoying concept to you but to those that Wvw all the time it is not so that is pure opinion.
Please explain in enough detail for me to understand how ganking players in obsidian sanctum has deeper meaning and more strategic game play then the rest of Wvw combined. Sounds again like more of an opinion (which you are entitled to) than an actual fact.

Fact:

Pve Players on your world derive no benefit from WvW. This was how it worked at release, and anet removed this feature shortly after launch because PvE players complained it was unfair. pvE players aren’t even separated by server any more. Megaserver simply dumps everyone in to fresh maps and allows them to taxi around. The only place where server selection matters any more is determining which wvw team you’re on. I’m guessing you haven’t been keeping up.

Fact:

I can get more wxp and loot from murdering people in a field than taking an objective. I can get more wxp and loot from failing to defend a keep than I can get from taking down a keep. The majority of material rewards in WvW are a result of player kills or flipping. The objectives themselves confer zero benefit. In fact, losing a lot of keeps in rapid succession has been the most money I’ve made off of wvw. Just get an arrow cart, aim it at a superior force, and collect bags until they breach the wall, then move to the next one. You’ll make far more money and wxp than the guys that just took over your keeps.

Fact:

You gain score for owning objectives. You do not gain loot for owning objectives. You gain loot for flipping objectives and killing people. You will come out richer from wvw if you do exactly what people do in EOTM. Run around in circles and flip stuff. There is no strategic depth that corresponds with earning potential. There is no incentive to defend objectives. The only incentives that exist are to remain on the offensive perpetually. The only people playing the game as designed are doing so by choosing to play less efficiently in terms of personal reward so that they can maintain PPT

Playing the game as intended, attempting to win the matchup, does not pay as well as attacking undefended objectives or simply killing people regardless of where they are. in any siege game with depth and purpose, material reward is gained from controlling territory, which creates meaningful fights. WvW’s objectives are meaningless from a reward standpoint, and serve only to tick points on a scoreboard that does nothing to award players for their efforts aside from rank up on a leaderboard. This is in stark contrast to a well designed siege game in which the primary motivator for warfare is personal gain which works with rather than against the primary goal structure of the game.

WvW is a system of all gain, and zero loss. It is a shallow system with meaningless objectives that only serve a niche community that cares about scoreboards more than income. It is hampered by weak objectives that are unsatisfying to own, and only marginally satisfying to take over. It is a rapid fire misinterpretation of siege game play designed to creat ’action packed" game play, and does at at the detriment of strategic depth or meaning that makes siege systems compelling to play. It is devoid of any sense of ownership, player agency, or adequate reward.

Until this is fixed it’s going to have population problems. You don’t have to take my work on it. You only need to step in to WvW on any server and see for yourself. Even at T1 per-realm population is hilariously low, often not even approaching the cap for most maps any night after reset. And these are the servers that are “serious” about WvW. I recently moved to gate of madness, down several tiers, from tarnished coast specifically because I no longer give a crap about wvw and can just kick out my wvw guild missions easily on unpopulated maps and move on with my day. That’s how badly wvw rewards “proper” play. So badly I actually left a populated server with competitive rankings because I realized that those competitive rankings did nothing but cost more than they paid out in siege. At least now I can make a few gold a week pvdooring guild missions and don’t feel like I’m wasting my time.

If you want people to care about WvW, and you want people to play WvW in stead of keep flipping and ktraining, you have to make the rewards reflect the intent of play. Currently the rewards are horrible, they reward the wrong things, and there is more incentive to let someone else take ownership of an objective than to claim it for your own guild, as it costs you more to to slot tactics, and pays out nothing for doing so.

I want it to work, but the current reward system isn’t going to cut it. Until the primary method of earning wxp and loot mirrors the primary method of winning matches, nobody is going to care.

Death Stroke.9875:

Not that Conquest is bad but I do prefer Stronghold for most of my classes and wish that would could still play it knowing that there is that glitch, just include a warning “there is a stealth glitch, play at your own risk” or something

…or disable only for Ranked.

The dev already said he would make a post on the official forums as well, and that he picked reddit first because he is more comfortable with reddit’s format. Also, he stated he was doing this because he wanted to, not because he was told to. Looks like OP just beat him to the forums.

Let’s not jump down devs’ throats when they’re actually communicating with us.

Agreed.

Keep the grind to titles like you did in GW1 so I can just ignore it. kthx Anet.

Your idea is great, at least it’s better than the current system.

Personally I really don’t care if it’s Alliances, Globes or all these other things people have proposed… Server identity or not.

All I want is to connect, play and find large fights with 4 full different maps.

While, I do agree with the overall context here, I will be requesting a refund if the items are split up and sold.

In fear of missing the sale, I went ahead and purchased the bundles as Anet has a knack of not bringing back some gemstore items at all and while they do bring some back, the timing and availability seems to be totally random. So while I do agree these items should be sold separately, in the spirit of fairness a refund to those who purchased the bundles should also be issued.

Tigaseye.2047:

I know, ITA.

The bundles should be an option, for those who want everything (or most things) in them, but not the only option.

Swift.1930:

Uh… really? Hasn’t work for me any other time; I’ll need to try it again when I get home. I’ve also never seen anyone in an outfit minus the helmet, but maybe I just haven’t been paying enough attention.

Yeah, they toggle off.

I pretty much never show helm with outfits.

Most of them look better without them, IMO.

Auralae.7482:

Several people are using the word “forced” here. No one is “forcing” you to do anything. The items aren’t something you need and no one is holding a gun to your head and telling you to buy the bundle. Yes, it’s a crappy business tactic, but let’s not be overly dramatic. If you don’t want to buy the bundle, then don’t buy the bundle. At least you aren’t being penalized for not purchasing.

They don’t mean “forced” in the sense of having no option whether to buy the bundle, or not.

They just mean that, if they wanted to buy object a) they would be forced to also buy objects b), c) and d).

Which is true and is a correct usage of the word “forced”.

You could substitute the word “obliged”, for the word “forced”, there, if it makes you feel any better; but it all means the same, in the end.

I really think people need to be a little less literal, on these forums.

Words, in English, are often quite fluid and can mean, or imply, many different things and/or or levels of things.

If someone is just sitting there Googling word meanings and taking a word to only mean meaning number 1, all the time, of course people may look like they’re being overly melodramatic.

But, that isn’t how the English language works.

Thank YOU for the lecture on how the English language works. I’m well aware of how it does and have made a living off it for a very long time. Perhaps I should break it down for you, since you seem to have missed the point.

No one is being forced, whether literally or figuratively, because they hold all the power in this scenario. As a consumer, they can buy it or not buy it.

As someone previously said, “It is your perception that this is forced they are counting on.”

Being forced or other such terms imply that the consumer is a powerless, hapless victim who must just go along with it. Not only is English fluid, it’s also powerful, and the appropriate choices can make a difference in perception. There is no obligation or being forced to buy. There is choice, and in that choice, the consumer has far more power to change Anet’s practices.