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i kept pressing play and escape and the game kicked me out of character screen

here comes the fix

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When playing the Marriner’s Horn, usually after a sequence of notes, if you try to play a half or whole note…you end up playing a quarter note inbetween the half or whole. Its been like this for awhile now and I am not sure if it’s been reported.

greeting from the mesmer forum. thanks for posting the vid and tips on playing warrior. this really help me play more efficient in the class. props

a long long time ago

how is everyone? it’s been awhile since i’ve checked the forums. hope all is good and good discussions is being discussed. here are two videos of thieves forcing me to defend myself from their aggression
weapon sets: sword/torch – scepter/pistol
PU build: 0/3/3/1/0
key traits: deceptive evasion, harmonious mantra, prismatic understanding, mender’s purity
http://youtu.be/E7MdIbAxmXQ
http://youtu.be/bH4rfDeeh_o

i love you all. this is a great discussion. i feel that change was a good step in the right direction. thank you devs for listening and making that call. from time i do play shatter condi with confusion and focus on +condi duration.
certainly i feel the “melt” being done but never really felt the “burst” from condi, the same goes for me when playing PU, a fight where who can outlast who’s +condi duriation
with MtD, i feel like focusing on just straight +condi stat gave it the “burst” we mesmers felt missing and away from the +condi duration metas. truely this change promotes build diversity. condi shatter 6/6/0/0/2 and for MtD i went 0/4/4/0/6 and it played well
for me, i’m starting to get a feeling of ying and yang in the condi shatter builds, but line that seperates black from white hasn’t swirled into each other in harmonious figure yet (Compounding Celerity/Chaotic Revival/Retaliatory Demise). okay…starting to talk weird…back into the cage i go. monsieur madame mademoiselle take care mesmer forum.

i’ve run this build in wvw a few times. nothing wrong with it. i just would like to point out MoR. while having Hamonious with Mender’s, MoH should be enough for condi cleansing. although it’s nice to have peace of mind from condi bursting i find that having MoR is overkill on condi cleansing and often leaves me open for attacks when charging.

i would swap MoR for MoD or MoS because it can cover my charging of MoH if stealth is not availiable. if you still want that piece of mind for condi bursting try null field instead. it will give you combo for chaos armor with torch or staff and more control over a fight

yes this build will do well in wvw. dual scepter with doom sigils…tells me you have class…i have sometimes run 2 giver’s scepter with doom sigils. with most players using -40 condi food, it doesn’t stick very well compared to stacking condi like bleeds or torment but is very effective with bleeding and torment.

Ross Biddle.2367 does have a point with raw damage when it comes to condition stacking but sometimes overpowering doesn’t equate to outplayed. Doom will wreck heals but as i play with 2 scepters with doom sigils, i find that doom allows more time for bleeding and torment to do it’s thing if not cleansed. basically they either cleanse doom(maybe allowing your bleeds and torment to continue to stack) or they wait for poison to wear off and then heal back the health while waiting…either way youre going to make your opponent think a bit and that’s is key.

the classes that i have trouble with are necros and guardians cause of the condi to boons skills/traits so be wary of them. play scepter as if it was a melee weapon rather than range and thank you for your post

i know it’s late…but here’s…my liadri fight for this year’s gauntlet using scepter/focus pistol with an ending only a mesmer can appreciate. enjoy

just want to say thanks for getting the server. i go in there when it’s empty with a friend to test out some theories…we mesmers know…the buggy theories. i was doing fractals earlier and our group ended with the mai trin fight. those of you that have fought her as a mesmer will also realize that fighting mai trin and reflecting her shadowshot will make you shadowstep towards her, it really didn’t hit me until i remembered pyro’s little experiment involving phase retreat which i can not find any records of it on this forum…hmmm…very strange and sadly…kinda normal for information like that to disappear in the mesmer forums, information that can be used for further testing…in a controlled area…away from competative play and players to further progress the state of this profession is in no way an example of exploiting when a NPC in the game is causing the same effect due to the game mechanic …removing that information from the community of begining and veteran players under the grounds that it can somehow be exploited is and i use the word strongly…stupid. i guess that’s how anet ninjas do espoinage? anyways i believe that [OMFG] room should have been given to the guild because we have players with good intensions to test a profession that is slowly requiring a player skill cap but is also becoming ineffective in the game. veteran condi mesmers know…when anet put nerf…excuse me i mean balance to condition in pvp and wvw…i saw players quit mesmer to play more low risk high reward profession ( the lazy players all switched to warrios and guards basically and used hammers, remember that?) but a devoted condi mesmer knew, heck any condi build profession knew…the balance just means we have to work a little harder to be effective as before. but now it’s getting kinda rediculous. i have over 6k hours logged just on my mes cause that’s my main. pyro had a build back then that really made me main mesmer. i don’t know how to explain it…the punishment for players mindlessly spamming attack was so rewarding i tried to find the biggest mindless player at the time and i found that player we all call the ZERG. in wvw 1 mesmer could fight a zerg….probably not going to win but the chaos and destruction that mesmer did to the zerg before hitting the ground was very rewarding that mesmer felt no rage after getting stomped. mesmer wanted to spawn and play some more. we all meet those players that get so upset when you get them in the downed state that they won’t even let you stomp them…they just..poof alt f4…that’s so rude….back then you get no bag if they alt f4 on you…they wouldn’t get punished. now they do…just log in dead but our reward for wining the fight…i guess the reward is they drop a bag now…but it’s just not the same. i don’t ever want to see another mesmer do that on me…it’s usually a thf doing the alt f4 on me…usually the ones that is playing thf because of profession trolling factor rather than bursting factor, so rude and that kind of mentality is the killer of mmo communities. two years playing this game…hell look at pyro, he’s still here even after getting banned for trying to get the devs to address issues with mesmer and QoL lol. chaos angel really did immortalized him in his grimoire. man i remember him putting it together for the forum and the mesmers of old…every week or so the forum would have the “who do you think is the best mesmer” and it would sometimes spark debate and challenges …i just saw one earlier trying to find pyro’s post…it’s been awhile since i saw one of those topics. when i read it nobody replied any names which i thought was funny…i think it’s one of anet’s tricks to get names of people to spy on and nerf things based on player’s playstyle. best player…best build…whatever…it’s one of anet’s tricks. again thanks to everyone that donated for the guild. now back into cage i go. i don’t post or reply in the forums much…feels like my mind took a big dump…sorry fellows

Fay.2357:

@Shadowkiller: Have you really never had your clones 1shot by….any mob ever?

now i remember, most definately…been awhile since i’ve PvE. thanks for clearing that up pyro and everyone responding to this discussion.

i believe clones health is based on per hit which i think it’s 3 hits, five hits if you have signet of illusion. i’m not sure about phantoms. someone correct me if i’m wrong.

what in the world…lol…wow

maybe there’s probably more than one version of a certain boon…like how there’s 2 versions of revial or some class skills when traited like blink or guardian sancturary

sephire.7296:

Bit lame to not do the cure first before applying the heal.

traiting menders with mantra of healing to counter anet’s lameness…until they decide to put a 10s CD on menders and call it balancing

i miss old decoy

yes…why not just rename the current mimic to arcane thievery and give us back the old mimic, the mimic with that 4 sec of invul after inital hit…would be lovely now that clones benifit from IE…o yes pls…with sugar on top…we want the joy of catching mossman’s axe and one shot things…you devs so sneaky, ninja nerfing and calling it a new skill thinking it would add balance to the profession for the upcoming changings…you devs do not mesmer…it’s like youre trying to kill two birds with one stone…it’s not going to work…you must take baby steps with mesmers…it’s ok…the mesmer community will help…we take step together…do not be afraid of the purple butterflies…otherwise…you must ATONE for your sins against mesmers! the power of lyssa compels you….compels you all!

…iunno guys…have a feeling something gonna be broken…scepter gonna apply torment on ourselves or something like that

i say ditch the PU idea…it sounds like youre giving an excuse to keep it in your build cause trait line also has bleed and staff CDs. i understand, it’s ok my child we will help guide you to a better understanding. you were necro so you like to see people melt before you. my suggestion is to keep your weaponset and gear setup butchange your traits to 6/6/0/0/2 or 4/6/0/0/4. if i remember coreectly, traiting torch makes the phantom more like a disenchanter, each hit will cleanse a condition…or maybe i was dreaming it did that someone correct me if i’m wrong

well anyways that phantom help stack or reapply confusion. i play with this set up in wvw zerging or havoks with success…never tried pvping with it but i would imagine it would hold it’s own. i tell you what though, this ain’t no PU where you kick back and drinks ome sweet iced tea.. it’s a lot of work to keep that confusion to stick along along bleeds and a stack of torment, but once you see get it at the right time and see that 1000 confusion floater ticking few times the dude is already on the floor, it happens so fast and if confusion stuck long enough pass the invul from down stage..you probably won’t have to stomp him cause he probably have spam killed himself. always a nice to see that and whisper to them " that was very kind of you to kill yourself so i don’t have to waste time on stomp"

it used to be a lot easier to burst like this and mesmers didn’t need torment but we all know how much anet loves mesmers. i rambled on long enough..see yall next month…back into the cage i go.

a long time ago…temporal curtain use to stack with other switfness including itself…mesmers just had to walk back and forth over it to stack 1m swiftness…anet did not like mesmer having perma swift from one source so they “fixed” it to become what it is today…

the power of lyssa compels you devs !!! give mesmers dual wield GS and all will be forgiven from the mesmer community. atonement for your sins against mesmers

warden is OP in PvE

“24. Sometimes shatter effect does not get applied
Shattered with F3 (daze) yet the stack of defiance was not removed. Next, used Daze mantra (same effect as F3), and viola – stack of defiance is gone”

i was doing PvE and running with Restorative Illusions and noticed that sometimes i would not get healed when my illusions shattered on target. i think i was using F3 as well. i wonder if it has to do with how F3 daze does not stack if 2 illusions shattered at the same time.

frifox.5283:

Tested #19 (Mesmer Runes & Confounding Suggestion). I used pistol 5 as the test subject. Mesmer runes should increase duration by 33% and CF should increase it by 25%. Here are the observed daze duration (60 fps recording):

• 2.000s – base
• 3.150s – 25% CS (57% actual)
• 2.683s – 33% Runes (34% actual)
• 3.367s – 66% Runes & Trait (68% actual)

So, looks like the runes do stack. The numbers for Rune and Rune+Trait match up close enough. However, why on earth CS trait alone increased daze duration by more than double than expected I don’t know…

Then, tested CS trait on its own:

• 1.021 – trait (Mantra of Distraction)
• 1.000 – trait (Diversion)
• 0.987 – trait (Chaos Storm)
• 1.583 – trait (Counter Blade)
• 3.150 – trait (Magic Bullet)

Looks like the Confounding Suggestion does NOTHING to Mantra, F3, and Chaos Storm dazes. I wouldn’t blame duration rounding because while all of those 3 have base duration of 1s and 1.25s might get rounded down to 1s BUT, Counter Blade is also 1s base duration yet it got a huge 58% daze duration increase. What’s even more odd is both Counter Blade and Magic Bullet got a massive 58% boost in daze duration from that “+25%” daze trait.

good research frifox, definately something going on there and salutations fellow mesmers. i just finished watching the temperal curtain reflection bug video and wanted to point out that the player placement of curtain was incorrect. reflection from curtain works best when it’s closer to the caster’s feet. a good scenerio for it would be if you need to run away, cast it and once you walk over you’ll gain swiftness and a wall between you and range attacks. if they continue to chase, the cripple from it will slow them down for 5-6s…once they are crippled and past the curtain, you can pull them away…messes up gap closers like heartseekers from spam happy thieves

pyro is right on the half half deal. not a strong power build and yet not a strong condi build…not reaching your build potential. youre on the right track though as for shatter goes. you need to rethink about your choices on traits, both major and minor and try to focus on traits to complement either power or condition. ask yourself…do i want to see my target explode or do i want to watch it just melt away

for the “Strong 1v1 damage dealer” i want to point out for phantom style which is our current strong 1v1 damage builds…opponents have not only 1 but 2 chances to evade any damage done…they can dodge our casting of phantoms, a 1 sec casting time…if not then they can dodge the attack of the phantom once it spawns which usually has a 1 sec delay before attacking our targets

i want to say your build is viable for pvp and can be helpful…that stability is crucial in pvp for us and to get our signet off. for dungeons your build would not be as useful as is, i would switch out CD for bountfiul interruption and PU for BD in traits and MI for TW and MoC for maybe MoR, feedback or disenchanter/defender to stregthen my support role

edit: keep CD and change PU for BI. thanks chaos

give scepter a try…the block is nice for her lunges and it has blind for her VoM

i should be good now. can you please try sending again? thanks pyro and wb

i tell you, that IP with any shattering traits gets me so excited sometimes…i just want to button smash all f keys ftw. unfortunately this is not the case. i would like to thank everyone for their valid points. after reviewing it it and giving it some thought i agree, definately underwhelming for it’s worth

Shadowkiller.6725:

this is like forming the jedi academy lol

In game name: Lighterthief
Server: (NA)
Playstyle: PvE, WvW
Role: Tester

bumped for invite

if you play street fighter you can get a Cheese icon instead of a V icon for winning a round if your opponent blocks your last hit

the build lives !!!

take down another player with this build? forget it…everytime i am by myself with this build i loose 1v1. takes them awhile but all i can do is run away and apply boons on demand. that’s why i like testing out this builld.

the thing about cry of frustration is that it’s giving 3 stacks of might with no illusions out so it’s bugged is what i am tryingto say. if anything it should only give 1 stack of might from shattered strength and IP. the other shatter skills should also give a stack of might if no illusions are out but it doesn’t.i just find it interesting that Restoritive illusions with IP. i read somewhere that an extra illussion is beging counted for so you get healed for more that what the tooltip says. and shattered illusions doesn’t work with IP.

Ourcore mechanic as mesmer is so messed up int he inside that there is no room for build diversity from the outside. all mesmer build is some form of DPS…it’s either a burst type or a slow and burn type but always dps. it’s like joining a single pick dota game, you know some kid be clicking at a certain spot on the loading screen so when the protraits of heroes come up they are the first to get the hero..stealth assassin aways…in every match someone picks him…and if you want to win and have gg…youre going to have to carry that sob

when chaos posted his maestro build waaaayyy back in the day…lol…i barely saw any other mesmer play that build…everyone wkittentering each other like mad monkeys cause of you could get 7-8 illusions out and mindwrack would count all of them. it sounds insane now but back then it was thought to be normal and later called it a bug.

anet pls hire me as a liason for mesmers

pyro really looked out for the mesmer community. the change was supposed to change blurred frenzy distortion only. mesmers that blurred frenzied a player with retaliation would not get hurt and back then retaliation was a big killer. it was considered imbalanced skill and i think pyro agreed that it was imbalanced but it changed our f4 non-damaging f4 shatter as well one of our most useful skill in wvw and spvp..changes to our profession skill was very unfair

Xaylin.1860:

Shadowkiller.6725:

i know people been talking about Boutiful Disillusionment with Illusionary Persona but no one has really posted any observation with these two GM traits.

People probably don’t talk about it because there is no real synergy to be found.

Shadowkiller.6725:

i did notice something though…devs might want to “update” tool tip for f2 with BD but i’m going to be hush hush about it because i like it the way it is incorrect.

Are you sure? Looks all right to me. Maybe you got tricked by Shattered Strength?

it can be hard to see sometimes but i’ll guide you. try doing this….with the GM traits BD and IP use your F2 shatter and then observe the boons you recieve….after that…press any other shatter skills besides F2 and observe…do you know what is anet ninjas?

i told pyro about anet ninjas..hey finally came for him…i bet they were like 2-3 of them taking turns to CnD and Backstabbing pyro. i betm anet ninjas…t pyro took one down but the other would throw SR on top and res his friends back and forth. they probaly the types to hang around the wall of a tower or keep to get an easy CnD

have used centaur runes and would have constant swiftness for me and the group once the swiftness boon from inspiration signet procced or from a kind guard shout or warrior warhorn. i swear sometimes we would run circles around outter SM looking for skrimishes…you know how the centaurs roll around their camps. i’ve also tried 2xalterism+4xlyssa for some extra boon stacking to share. used chocolate omnom for 20% boon duration…most boon only about 1/2 to 2 second increase but i’ve notice that might is our longest lasting boon, it’s base duration around 15s and also i use choco omnom for the swiftness from centaurs. sometimes if i keep my heals up i can get 2m swiftness and then share it. the healing skill i use is mirrors with menders purity.

synergy, those two GM traits with signet of inspriration be. strong support build it is.

i know people been talking about Boutiful Disillusionment with Illusionary Persona but no one has really posted any observation with these two GM traits.

i’ve taken it to wvw and it is viable in zerg play but i believe it shines in the group roaming style. excuse my button smashing style, everyone starts plays aggressively once they see the boons on them.. the signet does live up to it’s name here.
here’s the wvw video http://youtu.be/MX03OtxsGqs
in the video there’s a thf that daggerstorm as i throw up mimic. the video quality isn’t that great but i saw thf life bar slowly dropping. it’s the the health bar when you target but the bar when you hover the mouse cursor over the player. not sure if it was me doing that damage. after that, thf healed up quick with that evade/heal skill but as you can see power ranger quickly dropped the thf once i targeted. took like a big chuck of blood away.

i also took the bountiful persona build into spvp and i would say it was viable…needs a little tweak here and there.

in wvw, i played it with power stats (soldiers gear with runes of centaur) with a focus on retaliation giving traits 0/2/6/0/6 with retaliatory shield and confusing cry (you will need an illusion to shatter for retaliation boon from confusing cry since IP alone will not grant it) if you do get it to shatter, you get might to go along with your retaliation which makes sense. i did notice something though…devs might want to “update” tool tip for f2 with BD but i’m going to be hush hush about it because i like it the way it is incorrect. so gentlemen and ladies check it out and play test this build and remember we lost a kitten good mesmer on the forums. /salute pyro

the devs are aware of it. it’s not only happening to mesmers but other profession as well. last i heard devs trying to pinpoint what’s causing the bug. in the meantime you can blurr frenzy to unstuck or do a quick emote like /no…yes emotes will unstuck you

in case anyone missed it

http://captiongenerator.com/15374/Super-Secret-BG-War-Council-Meeting

give us back molassass muscles and the 2v1 will cease

clones are the exact copies of your charater, usually your #2 weapon skill or scepter auto-attack and illusions are clones and phantoms

“ring ring ring” what’s that mr president? ok i’ll let them know. guys, i just got off the phone with the president of anet…he said enjoy the bananas

should have eaten our bananas quietly

sshhhh…the anet ninjas will hear us…just hush and eat our bananas quietly

we ask for oranges..anet tells us apples…we get bananas…bananas gentlemen…bananas