Guild Wars 2

Noctis Assassin.4035:

well,i’m not sure if you guys noticed but you can see all the conditions/buffs and hp/downed hp of all the teammates around you by looking in the top left corner of your screen. idk, maybe i’m missing something since its not that hard to miss. As for your enemies, you should already know how much hp they have since you should be prioritizing targets by their role and profession. This is based on tpvp btw, hotplay doesn’t mean squat.

^exactly what i said earlier

I am glad i am not the only one who does not need to rely on hp bars over every ones head. I can also tell who is low on health based on their behavior , i dont need a bar to help me with that having 10 or 16 of them on my screen only makes a mess. Most of you who cry over it probably need it to get the cheap kill at every single opportunity.

I also would not have a problem with it if they made it a option but the loud crying for it is beyond me.

If you are making this much noise over it your just bad,really bad.

TRAINING WHEELS is what they are really.

vince.5937:

Smackjack.5071:

The moon and the dark night sky sort of tend to give a little tiny hint.

Never been to Orr, have you?

Sometimes it’s not that obvious— sometimes my Sylvari will glow even though it still appears to be daytime. It’s a sort of ‘dusk’ that hangs around forever.

So the dusk atmosphere should tell you it is night then. Its not really hard , you notice a difference you deduce it is the zones nighttime look , your done , set.

Unless you somehow forget..

tyu.9470:

What i meant is.. if you read what arenanet said it clearly means that they are having trouble proving people are botting in some cases and they will give accounts back if they appeal for the bans thus they are trying to make some upgrades so they can perma ban the botters.

And i think this encouraged some botters to do even more. I mean if i was botting for weeks without getting banned – i’d use it on a lot more accounts after reading that.

Just wondered if this could be the case or it is just pure coincedence ..the timing.

The great majority of botters are goldsellers, (i dare to say more then 90% of botters are goldsellers) they have to make ingame currency to sell it. Those goldsellers do not care 1 bit for the accounts that they use. They did not care before the speech and they do not care any more after the speech. Nothing about the botting problem is any different then what botters have encountered in any other MMO. Nothing that Anet has said is much if any different from policies in other popular mmo’s.

xok.2915:

about exploit programms !!!!

(Lolli and Koko you crack me up man xD)

Xok , maybe it was a missclick on their part who knows you know. I know i have done that before.

Guild drama about some power tripping guild officer (yup, happens in every mmo and every day) So what was the point making a thread about this ?

The thread title could have just aswell read : “Someone was being a jerk to me!”

so ?

Edit:
Ah i now see i was not the only one who mentioned it , at least one other (Vespers) did before me

wtf lol.

So , what was your message about anyway ?
What was in the header ?

Some people are just too gullible or jump at every opportunity to create a drama thread. Logic and deduction would have come a long way in figuring out the answer.

Caedmon.6798:

Everyone will take the title with the best buff.Same as in aion where people all went for the speed%. I rather not have anything from Aion in Gw2..when i look back to aion..im seriously wondering why in the hell i ever played that crappy grinder..I actually just stayed and played for so long because of my guild.

Not true at all i led 2 full legions in aion for 3 years, in pvp many would choose speed but even in that you had flight speed and run speed and many different titles with different speeds and combinations of speed and a other buff. But surely not everyone went with speed there were still loads of players that choose titles that complimented their builds outside of a few speed points and rangers and sins had less reason to prefer those titles,at higher level and with more seasoned pvp’ers you saw less and less use of speed titles and more that complimented their build as there were numerous other ways to increase speed compared to a small single buff +5 speed title .

Then there was pve where there simply was no popularity with any particular buff and it simply came down to the situation build and class.

This was still true for PvP btw for instance , i never saw anyone bother to switch to a speed buff title for a fort siege.

Then we have GW2 where the whole PvP side of this story can be tossed aside, title buffs simply would not count in pvp in gw2.

The fact that you do not like aion as a whole is of no relevance here.

Jormag has a lot of minions running around plus the Claw. They only need to add some zones above frostgorge for him.
Kralkatorik sheer size might be a problem, it’s still probably for him to be the second. But if I’m not mistaking his defeat would unlock Elona, right? Not sure if they are going to do that so soon.
Bubbles is my 3rd option. After the defeat of Zaithan his area is accessible. But again, his defeat would unlock Cantha and we don’t know much about him either.
I don’t see Primordius being attacked any time soon. He is the closest dragon, but also the least menacing with the dwarves keeping him at bay.

I doubt that the ‘defeat’ of a dragon has to mean that a certain area will have to be unlocked. It will be quite simple to device a reason why this would not be the case even after defeating the dragon. Take bubbles for instance , you defeat him but instead of dying you simple make him retreat from the encounter and so canta will remain off limits. But you still got to fight him.

That was just of the top of my head and i am sure gw2 writers can come up with better schemes around issues like this.

I prefer a title system like they used in Aion for instance. Certain titles had 1 or more buffs. In other words next to being a title for accomplishing something they had a use.

Switching between the titles was quite common too so no one walked around with the same title for a year or longer simply because they stopped caring about them.

It also gave us a real actual reason to go for titles.

I read it 3 times but i cannot make out with any sort of certainty what the actual question is (im not trying to be snide btw)

i will try to answer tho.
They can never just perma ban any account on just a suspicion , this is true for every mmo. Benefit of the doubt will have to be given until proven otherwise in to prevent banning legitimate players.

Problem with gold sellers/botters is that they have a long laundry list of hacked accounts at the ready , ban one and they start using the other. This takes some time after the first initial ban wave to go to the low minimum (no popular mmo has NO bots at any point in time).

The moon and the dark night sky sort of tend to give a little tiny hint.

vespers.1759:

i don’t think i’ve every seen a mmo that allowed multi boxing… for obvious reasons.

Eve-online.
Rift.

Paranoid.9542:

I stuffed around with builds in hotjoin yesterday for a good few hours and got into a match that had 4 out of 6 as rangers on both sides, other matches that had 0 thieves in them. Wait long enough and you will get games with any combo you want in them to post a screenshot of.

I think that applies more to your example of your match filled with mostly rangers tbh.

I cant count the times i entered a tourny even where the other team had 3 to 4 thiefs or mesmers. 4 out of 5 rangers? maybe like you say , if i wait long enough i get to make that unicorn screenshot.

same applies to hotjoin.

DirtyDeeds.6075:

Welcome to GW2 where solo friendly is actually “solo” friendly.

Because playing with npc helpers is not solo friendly at all amirite?

Bluestone.7106:

The existing skill system works fine because it forces you to consider what weapon you take into a particular encounter along with what utility skills to pick, which elite skill along with the other strategic choices you need to make to be successful in the various game encounters.

Please don’t change it.

This of course has nothing to do with the topic at hand. Being able to change the order of skills 2 to 5 would have zero impact on what you just mentioned. The only thing it would do is allow a preference of order per weapon , it would change nothing about any weapon and all weapon skills would remain the same.

It is simple really, just like you can change the order of your availlable utility skills,nothing more.

Xirin.8593:

gwawer.9805:

…maybe you guys are right about the FOV being different than zoom, although I have my doubts…

Quote of the month.

Considering that all the info one would ever need about FOV is linked in this very thread it sure made me have a …….. 0-o …. moment.

mouse.1689:

Smackjack.5071:

I am not sure yet what it is you have issue with. I am just asking here, how is this hampering you ?

Im curious because it in no way impacts me negatively in anyway.

If you don’t know why it’s beneficial to know at a glance which of your enemies is at the lowest health or which of your teammates are in immediate need of protection, no answer the OP provides is going to make it any clearer to you.

Lol calm down honcho

I can see my own teammates health just fine and at a glance too

*wtf how?

Its on my screen -_-

My enemies i attack/kill based on their class and the situation at hand , i have no need to see their current health to aid me in that.

garethh.3518:

@Smackjack
Do you shower every day?
Do you comb your hair?
Oh snap you care how other people perceive you…

If you had the choice between looking like the grim reaper himself or a lump of plastic in a game, what would you pick?
Oh snap if a game had cool looking gear it would be more appealing.
Oh wait this game does, it just dyes it all horribly at the last moment so it might as well not matter…

eeeeerhm… i …think …you might want to unplug from the matrix for a while every now and then.

oh snap

I am not sure yet what it is you have issue with. I am just asking here, how is this hampering you ?

Im curious because it in no way impacts me negatively in anyway.

I remember reading on reddit about a week ago that a guy managed to do it in 4 hours. i cant find the post atm ><. Thats still amazin tho, how much did it cost?

That was by abusing a exploit in the game.

Taiance.6213:

notebene, smackjack sums up my dense comment quite nicely and anything I add will detract from the point s/he explains so well.

Edit: smackjack i totally didn’t see the connection with the other thread, i think i may be getting too old for this internets are serious stuffz malarkie.

:)

In the other thread the OP was purposing to go around with a guild whisping other players as a bot check to see if they respond and report them as bots if they dont respond and to do this as a guild.

Just imagine how many afk’ers would get reported as bots or people who just dont respond to weird random whisps.
It just goes to show how he puts just about anything out there without any thought to it.

@smackjack

Oh how surprising a learn how to play comment…coming from Certain other MMos the targeting system is wonky here. Sorry. It should target closest ONLY in your FOV. BAD code kiddo. If that’s by design, then ANET should play its competitors MMOs and learn what’s intuitive.

I can play just fine, but if tab doesn’t target the closest enemy EVERY time, it’s not good. Its about consistency.

Owh how surprising a “Kiddo” comment.

Look grandpa , You may be stuck in the MMO mindset from before steam powered trains but “closest target” means the target closest to you and it does not mean the closest target that happens to be in the direction you happen to look at, a very simple concept.

Do you even know what the word “consistency” means? If i hit closest target it targets the closest target each and every time, not sure what the issue is with that. If it targets a enemy that is not closest to you but the closest in the direction you are looking at then it is not….targeting the enemy closest to you ….. get it now?

You started to play a different game , the game does thing differently. It is not the games fault that you need hand holding and prevent you from using skills outside of your range while you are hammering the skill mindlessly while waiting for the game to fire it off for you.

Seriously , Learn….to …..play
Or don’t and just give up.

Don’t expect the game to automate itself for you.

Sincerely yours ,

Kiddo

I agree. Dodging and stunbreaking is too hard.
ANET please dumb down your game.

^ at least Anet does not need to dumb down some of its players anymore then the already are.

Thiefs need some serious balancing allround ,period.

This sort of thing will always be a problem in MMO’s. One thing you cannot fix with coding is human behaviour. The rewards in GW2’s pvp are pure fluf yet people feel the need to max out their glory for the fluf anyway no matter the cost.

I myself , i dont even look at how much glory get per round, i just want a fun match.

Josher.9612:

If its out of range it shouldnt fire. The entire skill should be red also, instead of a thin line. Due to lousy tab targeting system…YES even pick closest enemy does NOT choose the correct one. It will target enemies completely out of your FOV which is messed up. I’ll fire off a skill assuming the game will target properly and sometimes it doesnt. No its not me…I’ve played other MMOs where I NEVER had this issue. In those if you target is out of range you don’t waste it due to bad coding.

(i never had the targeting issues that you claim to have)

You think they forgot or did not have the technical ability to prevent a skill from firing if your target is out of range?

Think again. Allow me to let you in on a little secret………It is on purpose.

If you cannot play the game while dealing with your skills ranges then it simply comes down to 1 thing, a bad lazy player.

The reason why the OPP is considered dense is not because he does not understand but because he pretends to understand and at the same time imply that others who do know and ask for a FOV slider (because they do understand) are wrong about it.

It is obvious that he simply does not know what FOV does or how it works yet he has the arrogance to tell other that they dont need it and are wrong about it that, is dense.

It is also not just about getting nausea. I dont get sick from a narrow FOV but it iritates the hell out of me to the point that i stop playing a game with a locked low FOV.

Kopipoki.3542:

Well, if you had explained it clearly I would have understood the first time. Basically you want to be able to customize all your skills the way utility skills are currently, and you want to be able to do so with each weapon set individually. That way you can have similar skills share the same buttons on your mouse.

What your asking for would be nice but TBH its 14 skills(24 for elementalist) and I doesn’t take that long to get comfortable with the way it is.

What was so hard grasp for you after reading this:

The problem is that when changing weapons skills i don’t want on certain keys cant be changed.

?

I got it the minute i read his post and i kind off agree with him. Switching between my 6 toons sometimes has issues related to this and would be easily solved if i were to be able to switch certain skills around.If we would be able to change the order of 2 to 5 it would be fine and would not impact anyone in a negative way.

I dont see how there is any valid argument against it really.

Wow! At least someone else who feels the same way and isn’t afraid of the obviously predictable, “Lol learn to know your max range noob” posts. I agree, abilities should be locked so as to not waste initiative/needlessly blow a CD.

There is a indicator for each skill on your skill bar that tells you if you are in range for that skill or not. Wanting the game to hold your hand like you are asking for is just noobish. It is especially worrying considering that you play a thief, the class that already requires the least skill to perform well.

It is simple , YOU are responsible for using your skills within their range , not the game. It is considered skillfull and mindfull play if you do so. Only a nab noob needs the game preventing them from using their skills wrong.

Taiance.6213:

OP must be trolling, no one can ever be this dense and still know how to use a keyboard to type.

I dont think this one is trolling , i think this one is seriousz https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Creating-an-Anti-Botting-Guild/first#post560242

gwawer.9805:

What if each realm had a big group of people who made guilds specifically dedicated to raoming around the world as a big search group to find and report bots?

I think maybe this would be fun it would be like a police patrol looking for criminals

Imagine a big 50 group of people finding botts and cheaters sending multiple reports to get the attention of arenanet faster

your guild can also play detectives and hunt for people who are doing other malacious activities in game on your server

Totally and utterly ridiculous idea which will most certainly also result in reported players instead of bots.

Any more “bright” ideas to add?
Here is another one from the OP https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Dont-need-FOV-slider-can-already-ZOOM/first#post560187

Vynestra.8279:

Hi,
I just bought the game and downloading now. I was hoping leveling would take time and deliver lots of fun.
Is the game made to level fast (Like umm….WoW?) I hope not. :-)

The OP already had 2 80’s to begin with. If you start your first toon you will never be able to do this since you simply lack the crafting mats and gold to do so.

But still i dont think it should be possible to level a alt to 80 in 8 hours through crafting.

Uneducated people will be uneducated.

Guess what , whether you zoom out or in completely the FOV will not change. A narrow FOV will stay as narrow no matter how much you zoom in or out.

sorrow.2364:

Smackjack.5071:

Mammoth.1975:

Smackjack.5071:

sorrow.2364:

Mammoth.1975:

How would you like to jump on a server right now and see? PM me.

You just need to enter in any sPvP/tPvP match, open fraps, record a video and put it on YouTube or to give me a video of someone’s else doing this. There is no need to let me jump in a server and wasting half an hour of my life to see something that probably won’t happen.

You are being offered the oportunity to see it live right there and there. You are offered evidence like this and you turn it down with THAT answer??

wow , just wow and how sad is that? :/

To be fair, he’s probably right. I won’t survive for a minute+ against 3 players if one or two of them are semi competent, but every now and then you get fights like the guys trying to take down that guard.

Well yeah of course. But it only takes one time to show how it can be be happen. Like in most videos complaining about how OP a elementalist is followed by a showing how someone is being schooled by one.

He only needs to see it once to get his proof that it is possible and because of a skilled player. but he already chickened out of the offer so we can all throw all his arguments out of the window from here on.

There is still the fact that none already posted that video.
Obviously I’m talking about sPvP/tPvP, don’t even try to post WvWvW kitten, like someone did to prove elementalists were good.

You were already invited to a live match in SPVP , you declined in disbelief please, be quite lol.

Mammoth.1975:

Smackjack.5071:

sorrow.2364:

Mammoth.1975:

How would you like to jump on a server right now and see? PM me.

You just need to enter in any sPvP/tPvP match, open fraps, record a video and put it on YouTube or to give me a video of someone’s else doing this. There is no need to let me jump in a server and wasting half an hour of my life to see something that probably won’t happen.

You are being offered the oportunity to see it live right there and there. You are offered evidence like this and you turn it down with THAT answer??

wow , just wow and how sad is that? :/

To be fair, he’s probably right. I won’t survive for a minute+ against 3 players if one or two of them are semi competent, but every now and then you get fights like the guys trying to take down that guard.

Well yeah of course. But it only takes one time to show how it can be be happen. Like in most videos complaining about how OP a elementalist is followed by a showing how someone is being schooled by one.

He only needs to see it once to get his proof that it is possible and because of a skilled player. but he already chickened out of the offer so we can all throw all his arguments out of the window from here on.

sorrow.2364:

Smackjack.5071:

LOLLMAOROFLOMG what?

If i had not been in danger of a ban for saying it i would have said something else but you know what ,have a lollipop ,suck on that.
-
You know what you could do to see the answer that go back and read my 5 last posts or so in response to you and you can count the amount of times i have resorted to using my own quote to answer the same daRn subject including the original post from which i started quoting myself in order to keep answering that same subject you keep bringing up time and time again.

I am not going to do it for you , do it yourself there simply are to many of them.

I did, I’ve just seen me trying to focusing on the game balancing itself and you keeping argue about op’s skills. This is probably why you have the time to write bs but you have no time to quote when I drove the argument on op’s skills.

Considering the lame way you just turned down mammoths offer i decided to compile it anyway.

empty quotes failled because of typo ,misplacing the tag but you can add them up cant you ??the ones that do come through are more then enough already.

sorrow.2364:

This is not the point of op. He is aware that he is not the best player of GW2, but focusing on his skill level without considering what the OP actually wanted to show is just stupid

This isn’t BS. I see everyone here saying that he is bad, that he has to learn to play and so on while none is actually discussing the skills and mechanics the op wanted to show. This is BS.

@Smackjack: You are doing all wrong, seriously.

1. Is the video about op’s skills? Is the topic about op’s skills? If yes, it is right that everyone is talking about his abilities, but since the video isn’t about his skills, not talking about the problem but focusing on his skills is just stupid.

sorrow.2364:

6. The op has just started the topic dude, we are the ones which discuss about the matter. I really don’t care if the op is good or is bad if I think that what he said is right, also if it is said in the wrong manner. That is what you should do, discuss about what is wrong and what is fine, without taking into account the skills of whom started the topic because they just don’t matter.

[quote=430312;sorrow.2364:][quote=428665;sorrow.2364:][quote][quote][quote=428665;sorrow.2364:][quote]

sorrow.2364:

Mammoth.1975:

How would you like to jump on a server right now and see? PM me.

You just need to enter in any sPvP/tPvP match, open fraps, record a video and put it on YouTube or to give me a video of someone’s else doing this. There is no need to let me jump in a server and wasting half an hour of my life to see something that probably won’t happen.

You are being offered the oportunity to see it live right there and there. You are offered evidence like this and you turn it down with THAT answer??

wow , just wow and how sad is that? :/

sorrow.2364:

Mammoth.1975:

OK, let’s discuss the mechanics. Nerf mesmers because moa, nerf thieves because backstab, nerf warriors because 100b, nerf rangers because qz crossfire, nerf guardians because they can survive ten seconds.

Then nerf necros, because I can kill the treb with 2 guys on me, then keep fighting them until a third one repairs it, then kill the treb again while all three are on me. That seems a bit stronger than standing on a point for ten seconds.

Nerf engineers and eles, because if it had been an engi or ele on that point, and an engi or ele had turned up as backup, he would have had just as much opportunity to act before he died, as he got chain knocked to death.

Then, when all the class nerfing is done, nerf skill, because that’s why he lost here.

So, am I right if I say that when you are playing a Mesmer, Guardian, Thief, quickness 100b or crossfire you are winning because of skills?
Is that really your opinion?

What mammoth was basically saying in the case of this thread is L2P but at least he has taken the time like others have to point it out in detail as to how and why.

Smackjack.5071:

sorrow.2364:

Guys, please. I don’t want to argue about op’s skills and you are keep driving the topic to that matter.

What?

I dont know … Do you even have a sliver of a idea what you do and say ?

It is you who keeps bringing this up. Maybe you havent noticed but i even resorted to copy/paste/quote myself because of the sheer amount of times that YOU brough it back into the discussion.

FOUR times in my last post because YOU bring it back up.

…

my god man xD

Please, would you be so kind to quote when I drove the topic back to op’s skills and when you tried to drive it away?

LOLLMAOROFLOMG what?

If i had not been in danger of a ban for saying it i would have said something else but you know what ,have a lollipop ,suck on that.
-
You know what you could do to see the answer that go back and read my 5 last posts or so in response to you and you can count the amount of times i have resorted to using my own quote to answer the same daRn subject including the original post from which i started quoting myself in order to keep answering that same subject you keep bringing up time and time again.

I am not going to do it for you , do it yourself there simply are to many of them.

sorrow.2364:

Guys, please. I don’t want to argue about op’s skills and you are keep driving the topic to that matter.

What?

I dont know … Do you even have a sliver of a idea what you do and say ?

It is you who keeps bringing this up. Maybe you havent noticed but i even resorted to copy/paste/quote myself because of the sheer amount of times that YOU brough it back into the discussion.

FOUR times in my last post because YOU bring it back up.

…

my god man xD

I don’t care of the video itself, I just care about some mechanics which in my opinion and op’s opinion are broken. If you want to argue about that, it is fine. If you want to argue about op’s skills, than I’m out.

Just focus on the real subject of the topic: game balancing. Is this too hard?

jesus christ…

I give up -_-

sorrow.2364:

@Smackjack: You are doing all wrong, seriously.

1. Is the video about op’s skills? Is the topic about op’s skills? If yes, it is right that everyone is talking about his abilities, but since the video isn’t about his skills, not talking about the problem but focusing on his skills is just stupid.

Considering that you have been bringing this up ad nauseum over and over and over again and i already addressed this i will just resolve to quoting myself:

It is quite obvious that he lacks the experience to even know what he is talking about and THAT is very relevant to the fact.

Do you understand that now?

2. You are missing a very important point. The guardian survived for more than 10 seconds against 3 people, without dodging not considering the time passed while he was fighting with the warrior. Try to archieve the same survivability with any other profession.

Yep you are right , it turns out i is actually 15 seconds. Dont blame me though balme the OP for the misquote i was just quoting the op on it since it is a bit hard to sense the difference when watching a vid.

It was 2 people vs the guard unless you can those 2 autoattacks from the warrior.

3. I’m pretty sure the op has Soldier’s Amulet, so he has at least 1700 toughness plus 27k hp. He was killed by just one thief in less than a second, while the Guardian survived for more than 10 seconds against 2 people.

Jesus H chrrrrrrrrrrrist !???

How …many….times….has…it…been…said….that…no…one…dis…a…grees…with….that…????
0_0

The fact that he got bursted down by the thief that is !

YES FOR THE 10 MILLIONTH TIME WE ALL AGREE ON THE THIEF BURST ISSUE ,GRATZ YOU NOW HAVE IT WRITTEN IN TENFOLD IN THIS VERY THREAD. lol

I dont see the relevance in regards to this of a guardian surviving for more then 10 seconds though… :/

4. Moa Morph isn’t a profession mechanic, dude, shatter is. Again, you are missing a very important point: Death Shroud does not let your enemy most likely die or make him useless for 10 seconds.

Uhm ok… So a tactical skill is dismissed just because of……why was it exactly ?

…. ok (LOL) got it…. HF with that

It does not matter whether you consider something a mechanic or not DS is simply a more effective skill ( u know like moa is a skill) with loads more utility then moa will ever be.

That was the pont you were trying to make right ? that moa was moar OP then DS!?

5. People are not saying that the op is wrong, people are just saying that the op is a bad player and this is quite sad.

Mmnoo?! People simply could not help but notice that he wasnt very good they also pointed out in detail as to why , that is very fair wouldnt you say (no need for guild trippin here it wont work of course in case you hadnt noticed) and yes people are disagreeing with him, you just seem to mind that a lot, A LOT.

Well to bad , it has been argued in detail as to why they think that. Like i said that is fair not to mention logical.

here for you , again

It is quite obvious that he lacks the experience to even know what he is talking about and THAT is very relevant to the fact.

6. The op has just started the topic dude, we are the ones which discuss about the matter. I really don’t care if the op is good or is bad if I think that what he said is right, also if it is said in the wrong manner. That is what you should do, discuss about what is wrong and what is fine, without taking into account the skills of whom started the topic because they just don’t matter.

>.>

It is quite obvious that he lacks the experience to even know what he is talking about and THAT is very relevant to the fact.

Do i need to add to that now just to make sure you get that now ?

Fine

A bad player calling out other classes like he just did is a joke. A joke that no one can take seriously as is evident. He simply is not in the position to do that properly at least not without others pointing it out, if you do try then dont cry when people do not agree with that.

And before you get all excited i will add this for you :

That obviously does include the thief burst issue. But any player 1 hour old would have noticed that.

Thank you for the good laugh though and helping me kill some time

Peace V

Teknobug.3782:

I’m done with this thread after that response.

My main is necro, I use DS when my heal is on cooldown, that has nothing to do with topping off health with DS.

yes it does since DS facilitates you doing so.
/

Teknobug.3782:

I’m done with this thread after that response.

My main is necro, I use DS when my heal is on cooldown, that has nothing to do with topping off health with DS.

Your main is a necro ??

And you had to ask if DS can be popped while moa’ed?
As i pointed out before, next to that not 1 class has its own skills availlable while being moa’ed or have you ever seen any other necro run around with DS as a moa ? But you just had a genuine question ,right.

tom.7468:

Merciless.5349:

I don’t understand why you’re stuck on the Guardian surviving “only” 10 seconds. If I put up a clip of a 3 v 1 Guardian, and it took us longer than 20-30 seconds to kill him, and I say that that is too long, you would say that we were all bad and it wouldn’t have taken you that long.

it was not 3 vs 1. it was you and the theif against the guardian and 3 seconds later another theif. the warrior didn’t do anything except for hitting her with a hammer one time. i don’t see why you quote 10 seconds its nothing and your point is invalid.

Indeed and has been pointed out multiple times im not sure how many times it has to be pointed out.

Merciless.5349:

Apparently, there are a lot of pros running rampant in the forums.

Nowhere in the video did I try displaying my skills as a Necromancer or at killing other players. If I wanted to do that, I’d make a montage showcasing my “skills”.

Necromancer is not my main class, nor was I trying to represent it in any way. If you hear at the beginning of the video, all that footage was recorded from within the last 24-48 hours of random tPvP.

It is easy to armchair quarterback anything from behind the keyboard.

You mean like you are doing but without even understanding the mechanics?
Even dodge seems to difficult for you.

Let it be clear i am not trying to hack on anyone for being inexperienced but flinging these sort fo things around when you are well im sorry to say that you got the critique that you deserved.

I don’t understand why you’re stuck on the Guardian surviving “only” 10 seconds. If I put up a clip of a 3 v 1 Guardian, and it took us longer than 20-30 seconds to kill him, and I say that that is too long, you would say that we were all bad and it wouldn’t have taken you that long.

That is some assumption.

Fact of the matter is you claimed that a bunker guard takes to long to take down and from your 48 hour footage you manage to show a 10 second kill to prove it.

I have killed guardians on all my 6 toons, solo (i dont have a guardian or a engineer) and yes it has taken me even longer ,way longer then 30 seconds and you know what, i never ever needed to complain about it because i simply understood what i was fighting.

If I put up a clip of 1 v 1 Thief, with me trying to capture a node from him while he’s popping in and out of Stealth, you would again call me bad and armchair qb me. Instead, I showed you all what a single Thief was doing to prevent 3-4 other players from capturing.

You should have CC’ed him , you were standing there with 3 of your teammates im sure someone had something availlable and im sure your gang would have been more then able focus and burst him down.

the thief may have OP burst but in this case he outplayed you all and he deserved the time he bought his team.

Sorry but it is a L2P issue
/

It doesn’t matter who I go up against in a 1 v 1. The fact is, any Thief can come from anywhere and Steal + Backstab for major damage. I plainly showed an example of that when I was fighting the Guardian.

Im not sure if you noticed that nobody here disagreed with the thief having to much burst and specifically when it concerns backstab so what is this all about then ?

You complain even when people agree with you , that is Whine.

And apparently, a lot of you have never been MOA’d before or tried to kill a Guardian and failed or were fighting a player and never got Stealth killed by a Thief that came out of nowhere.

I find that very hard to believe.

Well you just answered it yourself , it is hard to believe and everyone has been in those situations. Your problem is simply that people do not agree with you.

Teknobug.3782:

Smackjack.5071:

Teknobug.3782:

Hm I don’t remember DS working while in Moa, does it?

Your point being ?

What? I was asking a question, I was asking if DS can be casted while in MOA because I don’t remember.

And please enlighten us on how you gain health while in DS?

Sure you did…

How many times have you seen a moa walking around in DS?
Have you ever seen your regular skills on your skill bar when you got moa’ed?

but it was a genuine question right?

You never played a necro or paid attention to them. You pop your heal if you can then DS ,when you come out your heal will be almost around again. If you heal was on CD before DS it was already running its CD, you come out of DS you heal.

Thats the advantage of a second HP bar , add the secondary skill bar with dmg, drain and fear and your set.

You can’t really think Necro is OP, you just make everyone laugh.
I don’t even try to explain you why, you just have to let your brain works for few seconds without any bias.

Talking about letting brains work how is that reading comprehension coming along?
Where did i say that the Necro as a whole is op? Thats right i didn’t but DS just like MOA and even more so then moa is. But i will refrain from explaining that to you once again even though i am sure you still dont graps most of what i said and twist it into your own words just like you did with what the dude supposedly really means in that vid which is just lol.

This isn’t BS. I see everyone here saying that he is bad, that he has to learn to play and so on while none is actually discussing the skills and mechanics the op wanted to show. This is BS.

And you are still wondering why that is ???

The OP can show whatever he likes but a bad player complaining about skills and builds has how much value exactly? This is proven by the fact that just about everybody here disagreed with what was said in the video with the exception of the thiefs back stab.
Here we have a bad player (we all seem to agree on that) he doesnt even know how to dodge…..he complains that he needs 10 seconds to take down a guardian …..Value , ZERO ,credibility ZERO , proof ZERO ,reasons founded ZERO ….people LOL for quite obvious reason i might add making it quite clear that there is no discussion in this case , get it ?

And you complain ?

This aren’t build he only has issues with, these are builds that the whole community, except players who are running those builds, have issues with. He just wanted to point out what is broken in his opinion and people here keep saying he is bad. That video isn’t a skill showcase, that video is a broken mechanic showcase.
Again, I can’t really accept that you think Necro is op. If you really want to make your argument valid, please, don’t base it on these kind of clearly wrong statements.

[/quote]

Big…Huge *SIGH
I never claimed that a necro as a class is op ,thats it , i already adressed this once with you. You can keep repeating it in your head that i did all you like for all i care.

If this video is not bout how he is bad, has no understanding of counters and counter builds and thus no valid know how to make the argument he tried to make and thus no credible knowledge on what the entire community has issue with then it is quite obvious that he should not have attempted to do so in the first place woulndt you say ?

It is quite obvious that he lacks the experience to even know what he is talking about and THAT is very relevant to the fact.
He also forgot about a few other classes and builds but it just so happens that he chose these 2 ,how convenient, and here you are putting words into his mouth defending someone who has no experience or a clue how to play telling eveybody that a bunker guardian must go down in under 10 seconds ,using words that even he did not and motivations that he did not even use.

GL man

sorrow.2364:

Smackjack.5071:

We are considering exactly what the OP was showing AND talking about. If what you say were to be true then why did he use these specific examples in his video in the first place?

You said, these are examples. It is like when your father is explaining reproduction with the example of bees and you say “Daddy, bees does not make sex! What are you talking about?”.

LOLWHUT?!!

Did anything in his video quallify as a ANALOGY ?
The answer is a obvious NO.
If you want to learn about the meaning of that big word then you can ask yours.

The complain about skill was obvious, of course a good player can survive way longer than a bad player but, in the case of the guardian, bad player or good player doesn’t matters at all, they survive freaking long in both cases.

erhm…..were did i bring up good player bad player in that quote again??? Are you sure you are not putting words into something AGAIN ?!

Answer me this:
Is 10 seconds to long for a guardian to survive?

The complain is founded. Half a second to kill a player without requiring any skill should be archieved by no professions at all. But, you know, it is better to say that he had do dodge the burst in that half second than see the truth.

omg,

Do you even comprehend what you read?
Let me explain it to you ,again…

He can kill the guardian in 10 seconds….. , he thinks that is too long……
Followed by:
Complaining that a thief can kill him in 2 seconds

so…..if he wants to be able to kill a guardian bunker in less then 10 how long does he think it should take to kill a clothy like himself who was obviously not tank specced.
So he should be able to kill a Bunker guardian in what , 5 seconds but he himself as a light armor wearer should not die in 2 ? ..yeah this guy has some reeally valid points ….
lol

If you had payed just a tiny bit of attention you would have noticed that i am all for a thief nerf but this guy just want it all and for himself.

Get it now ?

You know, Death Shroud is a profession mechanic, Moa is a kittening skill.
Also, looks like you have no idea how Death Shroud works since there is no way to come out of Death Shroud with more health than you had when you jumped in.
Also, Death Shroud does not make you useless for 10 seconds and can be easily countered by… Moa! Just cast Moa on a shrouded Necro, he can’t exit DS, all his life force melts (life force melts fast also when you are fully traited) and you won.

Looks like you are the one who needs to go back to school.
DS is a game mechanic , so is MOA and DS is more effective AND has more utility all on its own. Can it be countered by moa ? yuup , does moa have a 180 second CD ? yuup? Does MOA always land on you ? nooope

i can re-use DS multiple times by the time SOMEONE’s moa comes of of CD that might or might not be used against me, DS effects every single player in a group fight, moa does not.

So get a grip with reality will you.

I want to commend Anet— a good sign that professions are pretty well balanced: almost every profession forum has complaints about being weak/sucky/nerfed. There were 1-2 professions that didn’t seem to be complaining but for the most part everyone is complaining. That is a very good sign that professions are well balanced. I’m not being sarcastic either.

Good job

Uh..?

By that logic every single mmo i ever played is balanced.

Travleer.6301:

pretty sure noone gives a kitten whether legenday items are given for free or take a lot of time, this game is all but dead.. its going to be a sideshow for people playing other games more seriously than they play this game. noone gives a kitten

I see people like you claiming thiis gaame is deeaad in every single forum of every single mmo.

I have to do PvE to get 100% completion, I hate PvE. Yet I still do it.

So, why can’t ‘you’ do PvP?

And I bet there’s challenges out there in PvE just as hard as the ones in PvP.

Also, why stay on a low-pop server. The ability to transfer worlds for free is temporary…so I suggest you people pick a server now. *Checking the World Selection page all but Kaineng are listed as ‘High’ (5:30 EST)

Are you complaining that you cannot complete every single achievement because there are pvp achievements?

It is really simple , they cannot seperate that simply because pvp is part of the game and has achievements. No matter how you look at it if you havent gotten those you will never have 100% completion ,period.

What is next , i dont like the dungeons pls seperate the dungeons from the rest of teh pvee’ees so i can has completionsss.

What completion ? You havent even tried everything and downright refuse to, let alone completed it. If it is part of the game it is part of completion, if you have issue doing parts of it and refuse to do it then you are not a completionist at all and should not have issue with it.

The ones who do actually do all content even just for the sake of completion ,they deserve it…because …you know…they completed <everything> it is sort of defined right there, obviously.