Guild Wars 2

Well it is sad but at the same time you have to admit that dungeon content in this game was kind of a joke. I mean they took no effort, could be glitched through/solod andgave an absolutely ridiculous amount of gold, enough to cause massive inflation.

Whatevs, not fussed.

Honestly I never liked dungeons, open world content is much more fun.

Donari.5237:

Why is the red text of the numbers so much blurrier than the rest of the image?

/squints

Resized the image on imgur to not show my friend’s name. Account safety reasons. :P

Just hoard the potions before the event goes away and wait for the oil to go down in price. Thats when you would be able to craft the thing and sell it for 1k+ profit.

Xyrus.6037:

Hmm. Max unsigned integer. Definitely a bug. :P

Yup, when I saw this number I was like “Hey I know this number!”

http://i.imgur.com/vtuiplJ.jpg?1

brb robbing a bank…

Note:

On a serious note, this is a picture of a bug I’ve been having for a few months. For some reason, these story chapters have been set to this totally affordable price of 4,294,967,295 gems at some point and stayed that way ever since.

I have contacted support. But thought I’d share this for the lulz.

Khalisto.5780:

GW2 will never be an Esports, better mmos will be released and 80% of the community will move to those mmos.

Yeah like Wildstar for example is so much better than GW2 in every way, when it comes out GW2 will die.

Oh wait…

Well Archage is so much better than GW2 when it comes out noone in their right mind would continue playing GW2 any longer the game is already practically dead.

Oh wait…

Well when B&S comes out there is no chance GW2 survives because everyone would be playing that amazing, action packed PvP game instead.

You get the idea.

style.6173:

@OP:

How many times should a person need to complete the track before they receive a llama? If it is 1, I completely disagree. I’d be fine with your suggestion if every track complete gave you a component. Combine 4 of them together to get a mini llama.

In other words, if you do the track 4 times, you can get one.

From a realistic point of view this would be disgusting.

First you get the head, then the leg, then the torso… Then an Asura surgeon to stitch it all together.

No thanks, 2cruel5me.

They probably know tbh.

Sol.4310:

@Spirigo.2897, if you want people to listen please stop trolling/flame posting, knowledge and willing to listen to other players work wonders.

I don’t see how I am trolling/flame posting. In fact I can safely say that my posts here were highly constructive in regards to the current state of the class, what fun things it used to have in GW (still has) and what I want to see play in the future if the updates permit.

So all in all you are wrong, unless for some reason you are referring to my back and forth with the user who played a LB Ranger at a competetive level in top 5th or 9th team in the world and was ignored by everyone upon pointing that out. It was a hilarious situation.

A lot of people here seem to suffer from seeing what they want to see rather than what was actually posted.

Actually it depends on what part of the internet you’re referring to. Most websites worth caring about (i.e. not the stuff the teenies use all day) are rather civil.

I want to see a full team of zerk FT Engis just zerging around.

Effective? Most like not.

Fun to watch? Surely.

Dahkeus.8243:

Toxsa.2701:

Basically any team composition that doesn’t has a ranger will do

Because an entire thread complaining about ranger wasn’t enough, eh?

We Ranger Thread now.

Meeeeeeeh PvP can bring out the worst in people.

You just have to realise that most flamers aren’t actually psychos irl and would thus feel incredibly bad/stupid upon calming down, unwishing all the terrible things they wished upon the poor sod they were flaming.

Dawdler.8521:

Nah, I still play my Charr female Warrior because of the voice.

“Gaining adrenaline!”
Oh yeah baby, work that tail
“Almost ready!”
Me too!
“On my mark!”
I know exactly where hehe
“Here I come”
Uuuuuuuuungh
“Cant walk right!”
Me neither tomorrow if you know what I mean
Shake it off!"
WHAT? OH GOD ITS EVERYWHERE
“For great justice!”
Mumble mumble…
“Need more endurance”
You’re mean

Beastiality is bad, kids.

StickerHappy.8052:

But i think Im not against your side, the OP says they were 0 rangers ToL

Do you hear this faint whispering? Listen closely. That’s right, it’s the 95% of people, loyal followers of The Church of the Ranger whispering in unison:

“Shun the nonbeliever, shun the nonbeliever, shun the nonbeliever… He does not belong to the Rangerform! …”

You don’t understand!

Here a passage from The History of the Ranger Thread:

“Passage 392: Spirigo is a vile demonic creature hellbent on bringing down the glorious Church Thread of the Ranger. When spotted, must be chased out with pitchforks.”

Obviously. I must’ve made it so clear with my posts so far.

Disappear me the pewpew Ranger though, sure.

StickerHappy.8052:

Still ignoring that were top 9th or 5th in our bracket. Played ranger.

Cuz I’m the MVP. Get on my lvl.

StickerHappy.8052:

Spirigo.2897:

Because… Ze Rangerino Threaderino.

I also main mesmer. So are you telling me BLK and SOAK are not good? because it seems to be everyone is ignoring my post.

Who knows? Anything can happen in the strange and wonderful world of The Ranger Thread.

Because… Ze Rangerino Threaderino.

StickerHappy.8052:

Everyone is ignoring my post.

LOL.

You have seen nothing yet. Stay tuned for The Ranger Thread.

You sure of that? GW2 isn’t that hard. But if he’s extremely good I’m happy for him. Most Rangers I encounter are not, or simply don’t bother because the whole LB build is all about getting high rewards with minimal effort.

It has been a long time since I played GW1, but disregarding spike teams the bow was used there to great effect as an utility weapon capable of shutting down mages and interrupting key skills. This is something I want to see reintroduced in GW2.

Also spirits, traps, condi, throwing axes, pet-centric builds aren’t a thing partly because they’re not strong enough and partly because of the longbow pewpew nonsense. One of my favourite builds from GW1 days was R/P pet/spear build that I used to spam a whole lot in RA. There was also a time when trap Rangers were highly effective in HA and that was hella fun. The problem now is that Ranger doesn’t have any of that versatility even though it is clearly supposed to

It is sort of fun to play LB, in an odd way. Just like it’s fun to play P/P venom Thief, power Necro and zerk FT Engi. It’s a case of being hugely successful by doing something that feels horribly dumb. Still, these things shouldn’t see play.

Eurantien.4632:

The ignorance. There are virtually 0 safe places to be on temple (where teleports break) moreover, the design of it makes it very hard for the relatively immobile ranger to keep up with the zerker classes it competes with. Not to mention, there are no places to go once you do get jumped on unless you are at mid… But you can’t get to those high places because it takes so long to get there via walking from a side nodes, where most of the fighting takes place.

Also, no one ever wanted longbow buffs, we have always wanted other improvements.

Let me channel the dark energies of the typical PvP Ranger thread and say the ultimate words of wisdom: Sounds like a L2P issue.

Spam 1 and 2 until someone noticed you, then spam 1 and 2 while they’re running at me and then improvise?

Works wonders so far. TotSS is the perfect map for Ranger, so many hard to reach places to shoot from, which also happen to be nice to PBS people off.

I think all ranged power builds are a bit dumb atm.

Meanwhile hundreds of pewpew Rangers are gathering free wins in sPvP by pressing 3 buttons tops. Myself included.

Nobody cares about the pro scene, it’s tiny and doesn’t reflect the normal gameplay at all because of how insanely strong communication is in conquest.

Nerf the LB BS to the ground. Buff everything else.

Darksteel.8412:

Akikaze.1307:

Darksteel.8412:

the rng of some rune and sigils are amazing…learn to think ahead in creating builds instead of have the game nerved to nothingness, sick of people crying dumbing the game down…srsly

It is literally amazing, so amazing that I got one-shotted from 80% hp from an necromancer pressing 1 today. Totally required skills, not dumb luck right?

someone did mention something about dodgerolling

How would he know that a particular attack would double proc? Or we infinite dodge hax now?

I hate you.

Sorry.

uhohhotdog.3598:

Having Randomness to a game doesn’t negate skill. Poker is random as far as what cards you get yet it is a very high skill game.

Doesn’t automatically mean GW2 requires skill despite RNG. In fact it doesn’t. Currently all of the lamest builds work well purely because of the proc sigils.

On that note tPvP takes no skill, just a good mouse and decent reactions.

Procs are still lame. They should be what helps get kills, not what gets the kill.

Avoid going for “road kills” i.e. kills that happen between nodes. Kills give very little amount of points by themselves so over-commiting like that can lead you to fall behind further or lose the advantage.

If the enemy goes down outside of the point and you have the means to tank their downed state damage it might make sense to let them wither instead of stomping to keep the numbers across the map uneven for longer.

They are introducing a dota style map because it more closely resembles what we had in GW1 where PvP was tolerable instead of being the joke that it is now.

Maps where there is nothing stopping you from contesting objectives leads to a toxic and anti-fun gameplay it seems. If anything it’s because those maps have a counter-intuitive dynamic.

Imho the main objective should be extremely obvious to everyone while the means of getting that objective should be hard. Instead we have absolute clusterkitten of a map where players don’t understand what’s going on for weeks, but begin to find it painfully easy once they do.

As it stands, kills outside a certain area make you lose. Like, seriously? For example one strategy I had lots of success with lately was harassing people on the way to the node if I have the said node. It puts them in a lose – lose situation where attacking me puts their team further behind, while ignoring me means taking unnecessary damage.

That’s only the tip of the iceberg of lame strats one can play.

A miracle.

/15chars

I prefer venom share.

Also once you reach lvl80 and start to PvP/do dailies you will get Tomes of Knowledge. A consumable item that allows you to up one level. Think Rare Candy.

That makes levelling alts super easy.

I don’t like Dumbhammer map so I play ranked. Couldn’t care less if people flame. On that note I think that flaming is very rare and much tamer in this game than in say, Dota2 or LoL. Having something worse to relate to makes it easier to cope with any toxicity that happens in ranked here.

Sagat.3285:

Kako.1930:

This thread in a nutshell: Every profession except the one I play is brain dead easy and overpowered, low risk high reward.

I play all and my find a joy in all but to me it looks like it’s a meta vs non meta argument the idea that a class in general should be significantly lower than the rest actually 3 because team capacity is 5 same argument for PvE. Sure some things are seen as cheesy by others but I would to remind that if that “cheesy” stuff has to go something else has to come same way with necro we’ll sacrifice our downed state damage for real competitiveness but we won’t just let it go imo it did happen through bug fixes and not pure buffs.

I think the powerful downed state is one of the more interesting things about the Necro. In fact I feel like the downed state in general is not as impactful as one might expect from a mechanic that is one of the focal points of the game. Although certain classes can indeed shred 50% or so of the target’s HP while downed.

I play venom Thief atm. It’s the braindeadest thing ever. Not to say I normally enjoy taking that path with what I play, but this build somehow pleases my inner hipster enough that I spam it. But I digress.

TIL GW2 uses Glicko-2.

JoshuaRAWR.4653:

If i’m to fight something, i want the person I’m playing against to have to think about what they’re doing.

The way the games designed, this is actually discouraged, you’re rewarded more for just hitting whatevers off cooldown and letting procs and sigils do the rest.

And er.. if we’re not to blame Anet, who do you expect us to blame? They are the ones who made the game the way it is..

It’s probably not ideal to do that but it actually does the job nicely enough. Atm I just kicked everything to the kitten it bucket and rolled a P/P venom Thief. All i have to do is spam 3 and hope my sigils proc. Does the job, kittenes people off as an added bonus.

Benjamin.8237:

Mesmer is a high risk high reward class, Necromancer is an average risk, average reward class and Ranger is a low risk, average to high reward class in my opinion. I wouldn’t say that all three of them are easy which is why they are abundant. Ranger does have the lowest skill floor in the game as far as I’m concerned but it also has a pretty high skill ceiling, as evident by the lack of competitive Rangers.

I generally agree but I feel like you have to drop the pewpew build to tap into more advanced ranger mechanics.

Illusions are wonderful. The flashy Mesmer plays are just icing on the cake.

The thing is that celestial builds are more an issue of classes being able to do everything relatively well making the meta feel stale rather than the builds being necessarily easy. Another issue is that right now Celestial and Berserk amulets seem to trump all others by a huge margin.

In terms of particular builds…

Warrior builds were always kind of hurp and the class is good for beginners due to its innate tankiness. At the same time they always have to be in the thick of things which puts them in a direct line of fire, thus at a higher risk. I actually don’t have much of an issue with shoutbow because it’s more about applying pressure and providing utility rather than directly impacting the outcome of the match.

Guardians have to rely on advanced tactics that involve timing and weapon weaving in order to be truly effective. They can be played by chasing the enemy around while spamming 1 and sustaining but in that case you may as well pick a Ranger and stay out of harms way altogether.

Thieves need practice and quick reflexes. They were always on the higher end of skill bracket due to how squishy they were. Sure, Thieves have more sustain than before, stealth is also the greatest disengage tool ever but really they pop in seconds if caught and have to put themselves at a high risk while performing their burst in melee range.

Engineers and Eles need an extra set of fingers to do well with. The builds they use are also more utility centric rather than revolving around instagibbing people with one skill.

This is not to say I find this meta particularly exciting. In fact I don’t like the idea of having a bunch of highly versatile classes instead of having them excell at a specific thing. The thing is that the 5 meta classes + Mesmer have advanced mechanics that are fun to use and play against. At the same time we have Rangers and Necros who excell at being pure DPS and feel completely dumb to play as or against.

With mesmers it’s a case of having the option to rely on advanced mechanics to great effect but also having the option to endlessly juke it out with illusions without bothering much. I’m generally ok with it though, it makes Mesmers feel more like what they were supposed to be. GW1 Mesmers were basically like Necros with less conditions and more interrupts/control.

Tbh a lot of popular builds suck in a sense that they are completely lopsided and anti-fun. It’s a case of rolling around until someone trips and gets instagibbed.

All 3 are low risk high reward, especially the rangers. Mesmers less so but still, hiding behind illusions until everything dies is so easy.

At this point it’s hard to see a match without these three on each team.

Toxsa.2701:

Spirigo.2897:

The above is neither a good argument nor a good comparison.

Just listing the strengths of other builds without taking their playstyles into consideration as well as relating to a number of case studies won’t get the discussion anywhere apart from whataboutism battles.

Both Engi and Mesmer knock backs are typically used for defensive purposes rather than as a primer to unload the burst damage from a single skill so the player interaction with it is different.

It’s pretty obvious at this point that people talk about situations where the ranger uses PBS as a primer for the burst rather than situation where knock back is used as an utility-centric move.

Nicknamenick has worse comparison because he doesn’t even show examples, yet saying total package-wise LB is a much better weapon than Mesmer GS and Engi’s rifle. Also you don’t seem to play Engi, saying overcharged shot is mainly used defensively, even though many people use this skills either to decap or to set-up burst.

But we already know you HAAAAAATE ranger, it’s ok bro, you can take a break, we know that already.

Actually he did an alright comparison and his thread of thought makes sense because really it’s a question of how the rest of the kit interacts with the knock back as well as how easy it is to combo it with other skills.

The thing is that the quality of his comparison has no effect on the quality of yours. It doesn’t change the fact that what you’ve posted is essentially worthless in the scope of this discussion because it simply lists the strengths of certain other kits without taking playstyle into consideration or exploring a number of case studies.

I don’t hate Rangers per se but I do hate this particular build because of its extremely low skill floor, to the point where a player can essentially tap into its full strength on their first match with it, contrasted by how hard it can fall off against more experienced players but still somehow remain a neusance.

Whereas both Engineer and Mesmer both take a lot of practice to learn and will never be truly effective as long as the player doesn’t know what to do with them. This is more evident with Engis than Mesmers though.

The above is neither a good argument nor a good comparison.

Just listing the strengths of other builds without taking their playstyles into consideration as well as relating to a number of case studies won’t get the discussion anywhere apart from whataboutism battles.

Both Engi and Mesmer knock backs are typically used for defensive purposes rather than as a primer to unload the burst damage from a single skill so the player interaction with it is different.

It’s pretty obvious at this point that people talk about situations where the ranger uses PBS as a primer for the burst rather than situation where knock back is used as an utility-centric move.

^ Agree with the above.

Zenos Osgorma.2936:

Spirigo.2897:

You don’t even have to watch the animation tbh. Rangers will always use this skills once you are in range. With enough practice it should become quite easy to avoid that skill most of the time in a direct confrontation. It’s still a pretty BS build though especially against matchups where you have to dodge a lot of kitten or against less experienced players.

My issue is that, it’s not like they are even doing anything terribly useful apart from DPS, but you still have to go murder them asap which means climbing up some random cliff while avoiding all the garbage they throw at you. kitten Ranger, either disengage properly or die. Don’t throw a ton of semi-effective stuff at me.

not all of us , I’ll do the normal rotation and then When its off cooldown i’ll use a different Skill like Huntershot right after a dodge move to bait out their dodge followed by PBS forcing a double dodge or he’ll take the Pbs and a full combo.

and i don’t need a cliff to win a fight and dude Calm down its Valid advise.

^ Doing it right. Facing something like this is alright actually. It’s all about forcing the enemy to use up the dodges before doing PBS into RF. Tbh you can follow that up with GS 3, 4 into entangle or something along those lines.

But you have to admit most of the time the LB ranger would just camp LB while using 3, 5 and utilities to essentially delay the inevitable. It just makes the fight feel like such a massive chore.

You don’t even have to watch the animation tbh. Rangers will always use this skills once you are in range. With enough practice it should become quite easy to avoid it most of the time in a direct confrontation. It’s still a pretty BS build though especially against matchups where you have to dodge a lot of kitten or against less experienced players.

My issue is that, it’s not like they are even doing anything terribly useful apart from DPS, but you still have to go murder them asap which means climbing up some random cliff while avoiding all the garbage they throw at you. kitten Ranger, either disengage properly or die. Don’t throw a ton of semi-effective stuff at me.

Inb4 church of pewpew Ranger.

But seriously it’s more a matter of predicting when they are going to use it rather than reflexing the animation. A smart Ranger will never fight you head on anyway.

Rule #1 of LB Rangers, power Necros and P/P Thieves is to be on the lookout for targets that have used up their dodges before unloading the damage. Though tbh forcing someone to waste a dodge roll is also a good thing.

With Ranger point blank shot into RF is an extremely powerful combo which is also very easy to execute unless you are playing with your feet or something. Remember that push also disables the target for a duration making it a great primer for high dmg channeled skills.

Meh, possibly.

But I doubt Anet has the resources to pull it off. They bit off more than they could chew with the whole esports thing. They have only 300 people with the team apparently being very artist-centric.

What they need is more programmers and game designers to keep PvP in a top notch condition and even do something crazy like letting people play GW2 PvP for free.

It won’t work. I will be very surprised if GW2 PvP gets any more recognition than it does now.

This game is more about PvE, great community and chilling above all.

It might change things for the better. Hard to say at this point.

I suspect that Stronghold will suffer from some sort of broken, lame mechanic though.

I got an interesting message out of the blue today and decided to investigate. First by looking at the post history of the sender for any clues. It lead me to this thread.

Here is the picture of the message in question:

http://i.imgur.com/yYWXDCP.jpg?1

This user has already caused a massive fracas in the PvP board by flaming and raging uncontrollably for two pages straight before mods intervened. Now, it seems he thinks I’m EremiteAngel for whatever reason. Zoso certainly doesn’t strike me as sane…

Situations like these sure are hilarious though.

Good Engis are pretty fun to play against that’s true. I’m glad they’re more about kits these days than turrets/decaf.