Guild Wars 2

Medeyn.8562:

Tarkus.4109:

Medeyn.8562:

Tarkus.4109:

Medeyn.8562:

Tarkus.4109:

Uric.3280:

TIL Tarkus and Magikarps are intimidated by a small PvX guild that half the members of are running MF builds.

Nope, the last thing I think is “oh kitten its OCX”, more “get ready for thier CC, as they are going to run”, I think NYS/SONG are the only SEA guilds that deserve respect for what they do on field (very good comp, don’t yolo it and also will fight with even numbers and don’t run to their ACs and call in a few more guilds like OCX or HIRE). Regardless, trying to win an argument on the official forums is pretty much kitten ing into the wind, so I’ll knock it off and do something more productive at work lol.

LOL @ HIRE and OCX calling for help, Okay… Go call WM, ND or TKG to stay on you and to crash even fights I know you spent a night crashing GC’s fights against TKG, cause you love it when you have bigger numbers Also. You have no right to say ‘run to AC’s when its all you basically do. Stay in your towers!

Since when are crosses on the map at your home tower a GvG that can’t be crashed – and if GC can cause crosses by themselves it was an equal fight as /supplyinfo indicated 24 people on me in SEA last night (yeah I blob really hard). Usual pattern of engagements are that HIRE/OCX PvDs a tower, we defend with equal numbers and they wipe the first time, half your numbers log due to being incapable to cope with dying in PvP. You just run away from that point on. Also if we tried to blob with TKG (I wouldn’t do that because we are more effective in seperate forces), Flake would probably slap me upside the head and ND/Urge/XF are always on other maps so are you supposing we cross map blob?

If you’d like me to printscreen/record your blobs so you could eat your own evidence, I would gladly do it.

The way usual pattern of engagements actually work is – HIRE or OCX joins a map, we catch MERC in open field, MERC wipes. Then you lead them into a tower or keep, make roughly 7-15 Arrowcarts, then when we push in with roughly 18-20, cause we obviously never have more than 20, since MERC runs a staggering 23, yet looking at your guild roster, you had over 33 people in WvW. Thats usually how it happens, you hide in your choke points, and claim to be better from that

Also, GC runs ~15 of just GC, I could show you the teamspeak photos to prove it too, TKG is mostly very similar in size, so 15v15 + MERC with 23, then “additional pug friends lets say to be ezmode, an additonal 2, make it a flat 25” 15v over 30? Thats your usual fight

Ahaha Magikarp! Please! I cant control myself with that powerful serenation!!!!!

We’re only wiped by HIRE when they run in the late NA map zerg when we are still getting our numbers in (~5-6pm GMT+10), and since is defending against consistent PvD “running to towers” is because we always are defending open field near towers. You’re just kitten that we can’t let you guys fight against doors on a consistent basis. Defense is more important than defense, and if yo have less numbers ACs are acceptable – but often as not when fighting HIRE/OCX that isn’t the case.

And we’re only wiped by MERC when you guys get SEA to log in and enforce you, so we are hit by over 45 ppl. Ya, AC’s are acceptable with less numbers, however even if you have more, you will still retreat to a choke and build more AC’s than we have numbers.

Don’t worry, One day i’ll call for support to even out our numbers, and ofc, you’ll be in your tower We already know you need a full map blob to port to save anyway, its how we so easily distract you to recap something, We send 15 ppl to go hit bay on your bl, you port ~45 ppl over, and we cap something with the other 20 since you left something unguarded!

You really have no clue do you about what goes on in oceanic do you

silkysoft.6749:

It’s Friday, Friday
Gotta get down on Friday
Everybody’s lookin’ forward to the weekend, weekend

This is why we can’t have nice things

Fannwong.3059:

Hello guys,

I’ve been ordered to give this message by Zac, our 2nd OIC NA Commander to BG NA OIC Commander. I did a pure cut/paste because I think her language is on the trolly side but I think her intent is extremely clear.

FW

With leadership and posts like that why are you surprised that you get doubleteamed in every matchup during SEA. It’s kinda funny that we’re getting trolled for defending objectives against map cap blobs, stop blobbing as much and you might actually get people to want to fight on open field.
We play for the fights, but we don’t feel the need to get all of your coverage on on or two pins as SoR does. We’ve gotten used to fighting with far less numbers and if this means using ACs who cares – its a tool at your disposal. We play for the benefit of the guys who log in every day and its our responsibility to make sure our EU has a good handover vs proving how big your ego is.

Azure.8412:

oxide.8324:

Shifty.4985:

So this week, BG are going to be doing a Vizunah and get as much stuff T3, then sit in it with Arrow carts. Only a FEW will come out and fight. Sad times and is a shame.

Funny coming from the only server I’ve seen use 16 ACs to defend 1 door lmao

You haven’t shown us any screenshots. Back up your claim with evidence, please. Show us exactly 16 ACs on one gate.

The thing about seiging a door is that if you go through it and kill seige is thakittens rather difficult to take SC’s after you take out most of them. The only time I’ve seen that was Wednesday night last week when I think Pryan was commanding in OC/SEA where the keeps supply immediately dropped by ~800 when we got in inner. We had a thief go in to check how many ACs there were there and that was his report, but to be honest if you are given the tools to use a choke to your advantage why the hell wouldn’t you use them.

Everyone uses AC’s, so what if they seige cap their keep with AC’s – just counter them with counter siege.

@ Joe; I seriously doubt that Aco, WARD and KISS actually were recruited intentionally, more that they transferred for whatever reason. Aco and WARD pretty much wants to remain in the old T1 (more people = more bags, and from their on field strats I presume they were to get BG so SoR was the logical choice), and KISS probably was sick of EU and went to a server that had a strong EU because no-one wants the responsibility of being the only guild on 4 maps. While it would’ve been nice if they had stayed on or transferred to JQ, the reasons why they changed to SoR are understandable. No need to complain and play the game.

Burl.9567:

Krypty.3897:

Nakoor.1980:

Ladies and Gentlemen, tonight I present you with the chance to relive the 45 omega golem rush that was done on BG BL the other night. I would like to give a big thanks to Icoa and Merc for being wonderful host that night.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXCj7HjQD6w

As a BG player…. that looks awesome and hilarious. I wish I was there to see it!

I wanna know what the initial scout in Bay said when he saw that.

inc

Otay Ranchero.5487:

Manualbreathing [BALL] Baller Ballistas username: zerg.3465

He follows the Commander tag and lays down regular Ballistas everywhere we stop to drop Flame Rams, or in the middle of an openfield fight, very obvious griefing. Here is an example screenshot series, he got in a golem and jumped off the ledge at Hills. Is there anything can we do about it? There is a general mapchat assumption that he is being paid by SoR forces, but that seems very unlikely.

Manualbreathingx is on SoR – also a member of BALL and I guess a second account. SoR is being trolled as well and I doubt that he is “doing it for a server”, the greatest likelihood is that he’s just a solo troll that does it for the lulz like most trolls.

Rombus.2910:

Need to put a zerg destroyer dragon on the WvW map.

No

Esqi.8496:

Tarkus.4109:

All in all, the fights this week have been pretty great in late oceanic/early SEA fighting the HIRE+OCX squad, and FoO+JQ PuGs where early in the week we had some seriously epic fights (especially on monday) with these two. Fighting FoO is always a welcome challenge and opposed to what some forum warriors say, when FoO appears on the map we actively seek them out because we know it’ll be a good fight win or lose.

I do agree that SoR did get double teamed at the end of the matchup, but if you are playing for ppt do you actively bash your head against an enemy for a couple of hours and gain only a few objectives? Or do you target the vulnerable faction, because if we don’t take SoR’s stuff at this window it’ll only just be capped by JQ. Nothing personal.

Also as a FYI, on a normal night we get 30-40 guildees in WvW – we just have good scouts and know where TKG is going to do their inevitable 2 golum rush on south gate of BG hills (please change your tactics, you’re getting predictable)

Oh simple MERC. You do realise TKG have scouts on you and flip BG hills for the tick? You can have it back after that

lol, that is if they can get through the paper gates w/ 2 golums in time to stop us rushing you. Btw props to the thief who basically spends his entire night tapping garrison, it has to be boring but hey you’ve gotta admire his persistence. Seriously you guys did 7 golum rushes on the keep on monday, we stopped 6 of them (one of which we got stuck in outer and basically capped it for the next tick) and in 5 of them we took out your golems – you must have a kitten-load right?

Calvin.5380:

Too many guardians in BG… my log always shows death by “Wave of Wrath”

Lol half of MERC are guardians. But the true question is ,who guards the guards

Its not completely not obvious that HIRE has been using the duplication glitch on Omegas; 4 omegas on every keep offense. That number of golems cannot be gathered by donations or rank chests, try to make the glitch a lot less obvious – I really hope there is some way to track this to see who have done this. People from all servers have done this so far (including BG) and this stuff just isn’t acceptable.

Sam Gem.1246:

If you do a dungeon with a BG, you’re a traitor. Just say no to BG. No BG.
Leave groups that do cof with bg members.

lol, thats got to be one of the most childish things I’ve seen on these forums

oPP is a pretty solid small ops guild and don’t really have anything to prove. Tonights engagements in JQ bl have been pretty fun, thanks for the fights SoR and BG.

wtb tactical nuke to kill AC’s though

Warlord.9074:

I’m noticing a decline in normal attendance this week from SoR. I could list a bunch of excuses as to why that is but I’m sure that is the case on the other servers as well. BG just seems to want to win this week so GG BG on your victory this week you guys really earned it this time.

Its not over until reset

Shaojack.3871:

It did feel like a bigger struggle back then =D
Other than these forums, I mostly love this match up.
All 3 servers have their bad eggs. We got someone on SoR raging about something and breaking all our golems right now… not like we can kick him out =(

QFT on this one, all servers have their village idiot/troll/whelps and sometimes it’d be great to have a /teamkill or a /serverkick for these guys. If they are being loud obnoxious brats in map chat, they have the freedom to say whatever they want but you also have the freedom to press the mute. In respect to the forums I think people need to develop a thicker skin, I mean one guy from SoR making a sneering remark is one guy and probably doesn’t reflect the communities outlook. One or two guys from BG crying 2v1 does not mean that the server are huddled little children crying, wrenching teeth, tearing at clothes etc. Take everything you read here at face value, its the internet – everyone is a troll to the other side, and a forum warrior to thier own.

About the golems, well yeah that happens and until there is a fix theres nothing anyone can do about that. Maybe a way of fixing it would be instating personal ownership of the golem by the placer, similar to every other piece of seige in the game, but hey sorry to hear about that.

Seigfried.5938:

Robot Chocken.7012:

MasterYoda.8563:

package.5147:

Glad to have this matchup back all the others are soooo boring. Just sucks that SoR and JQ have to resort to 2v1.

Oh please BG and JQ always 2v1 SoR

Everyone 2 v 1 everyone. Just letting out the secret

Fact: JQ never gets 2v1’d

There are very good reasons for that, and JQ thrives off the animosity between BG/SoR every time

Robot Chocken.7012:

Wotah.2975:

Tyaen.5148:

moolie.5927:

Tyaen.5148:

I love these statements as fact that can’t be verified by any source.

I’m the best Engi NA BTW.

No sir, I can indeed say you are wrong here since I am best Engi NA.

^^ This guy gets it :-)

We in JQ have best OpenFieldTrebShooterNA, Best2ndthiefNA, BesthideawayMesmerNA, and oh by the way put a # in front of all of that for the tweeter feeds! But…but…prove I’m wrong!

We also have the largest Asuran population in ALL of Guild Wars 2!

That’s not a good thing.

gebrechen.5643:

Don’t take monsoon too serious, he stills thinks wvw ranks are connected to the skill of the player.

I’m pretty sure if you play alts you lose 50 dkp

Just a quick heads up, any guild caught RPing and expects not to be slaughtered on compassionate grounds, that isn’t going to happen. No offense Silver that extends to SoR LOVE – I don’t discriminate.

I really want a DB/JQ/BG matchup and see who would get double teamed

Fuzzion.2504:

JoePhuket.8045:

Can i ask all sor and bg to help farm cof for the whole JQ server to transfer to TC? Right now jq is so dead third and its not even fun 3way fights for first anymore. Imnot trying to insult JQ or anything but the current T1 is not fun when 1 server cant do kitten and outmanned. I am from BG but TC merge with JQ sounds awesome and will give us more fun to the game imo. Right now JQ cant compete with both BG and SoR so its kinda 1v1+random all the time. If money is the problem then both BG and SoR might be able to help becaue we want 3ways fight 24/7 right?

First, JQ is far from dead. Second your assumptions are without merit. Thirdly, evidence speaks for itself. JQ may have 60% of the total numbers of BG in WvW and 40% the numbers of SoR in WvW but what we lack in quantity we make in quality. Lastly, nothing is stopping TC guilds from transferring to JQ to balance tier 1.

Here is a graph of the last 5 days for your perusal

JQ is far from dead, (feeling dirty for agreeing with fuzzion for once ) and calls of RIP x server tend to lead usually to a massive increase in pressure to whatever server calls it. Sure they don’t have the NA numbers – but no-one really has the same numbers of players in each respective timezone.

I still don’t believe the whole idea that JQ is the last bastion of skilled players as portrayed by some posters but JQ is a T1 server for a reason. Asking for an entire server community to die or assimilate is just downright rude when it isn’t necessary, that being said they could do with more EU coverage.

Clockradio.3257:

Cameron.2315:

stevie.4187:

BG now has Commander Kidinkk :0 yeyeye

How much did they pay you?

The rumor that I just made up says that BG War Council paid him 10,000g + an Eternity to move to BG in an agreement that he would continue to make videos and insert BG propaganda in each of them.

I resent this, we spent 90 000 gold, an eternity and a handie from Morgoth on the premise hat he would strike fear into his enemies via telepathically scaring off his opponents with how intense he is in TS.

Azure.8412:

MagiKarp.8201:

VBK.6325:

That MERC Norn Ele commander is terrible at pvp XD

plz continue with your mad, run back from spawn some more

and yes, Amarathy mentioned your comment on forum I started taking pictures ;P HiRE baddie.

No wonder conflicts often happen between HIRE and MERC. Both of you never stop making crude/rude/egotistical remarks towards each other. At least HIRE has stopped doing that kind of trash on the forums. Why can’t a MERC commander, in the least, stop the boasting/ taunting? You summarize MERC pretty well for me, and for many others.

Karps is one guy and only represents himself on the forums, he is entitled to express his opinion but if you find it offensive it isn’t representative of the guild at large.

Use chokes, line of sight and flanking amnuvers that take larger forces by suprise. i.e. we were able to wipe a SoR zerg of ~ 50 players with 35 due to not standing in the SoR deathpit and keeping them CC’ed into ours.

This has been an issue since launch and they can’t really do that report option as it would be abused too easily

No offense but anyone who has played WvW for a long time really couldn’t give a jack about a 2v1 for ppt.

Forum trolls are going to be forum trolls, so a lot of just play the game even when all SoR oceanic decide to run ikittenerg with members of TW and Choo who stayed up during the night. I don’t mind the fights because playing against overwhelming forces and still taking objectives, holding them and occasionally wiping a zerg that is almost double your size due to use of terrain is why I still play the game and why I didn’t rage-quit last night.

I see that some guys are talking kitten, its understandable SoR not so much capitalised on reduced numbers but is just doing smart play in focusing second seed. You have to keep in mind that last night we had 23 guildees in WvW last night + 8 or so malitia against:

Choo – 15-20
HIRE – 20
OCX – 10-15
TW – 5 or so
Others: 10-15

All running around as a unit with a single commander, but seeing as we still had some good fights; fighting SoR in outer hills after they bought ghost tonics (caught you guys in a choke and by surprise), fighting them in garrison where they charged a 50 odd feet on the battlements through all of our CC and necro wells (I love these guys), and when we made a push with a CC/blowout train.

Meh, the fights were fun and crazy kitten was done. Even though the score didn’t really reflect the amount of effort my guys were putting in, we were chucked into a kittenty situation under poor odds and managed to get a good fight. I can be happy enough about that at least, thanks guys for holding on.

+ 1 for Arrogant NA BS; our primetime is just as important to us as is yours. Transfer to one that does have coverage if you care about ppt, if you don’t care about ppt just fight in NA. There are no ways that locking 1/2 of the timezones in the world out of playing the game that don’t sound arrogant full or on offensive to those who play in OC/SEA/EU.

All in all, the fights this week have been pretty great in late oceanic/early SEA fighting the HIRE+OCX squad, and FoO+JQ PuGs where early in the week we had some seriously epic fights (especially on monday) with these two. Fighting FoO is always a welcome challenge and opposed to what some forum warriors say, when FoO appears on the map we actively seek them out because we know it’ll be a good fight win or lose.

I do agree that SoR did get double teamed at the end of the matchup, but if you are playing for ppt do you actively bash your head against an enemy for a couple of hours and gain only a few objectives? Or do you target the vulnerable faction, because if we don’t take SoR’s stuff at this window it’ll only just be capped by JQ. Nothing personal.

Also as a FYI, on a normal night we get 30-40 guildees in WvW – we just have good scouts and know where TKG is going to do their inevitable 2 golum rush on south gate of BG hills (please change your tactics, you’re getting predictable)

Something tells me that this will be the first of many locked threads

DeadlySynz.3471:

hammer.9721:

DeadlySynz.3471:

DeadlySynz.3471:

Anet could solve the point differential made by overwhelming SEA numbers is to just turn of the PPT during the overnight hours. Or at least the overnight hours native to that area. Basically when people should generally be sleeping, the points don’t tick..

Would that make people happy? How might the results look then?

The intent of you post seems honest so I think it deserves an honest response.

The fact is, this game is available to be purchased and played by just about anyone in the world, and because of this, Anet cannot lock out content to the prime play times of one specific region. When a player in North America is usually sleeping, a player in Australia just got home from work, ate dinner, and is ready for some WvW. Not to mention there are people who may work a grave shift, and play during work/school hours for many.

I don’t mean the content is being locked out, it means everything remains the same. Players can do whatever they want, cap everything, siege everything all to high kitten. Fight small groups, zergs, get loot bags, karma, gold, etc.. The only difference, that ticker on the top of the screen reads “0”. That’s the only change.

I would presume, or at least I’d hope those who are in T1 (and who transferred here) are here for the fights, not the PPT. If they’re here for the PPT, they are probably in the wrong Tier. Many other tiers that can be transferred to, to rack up the PPT if they so choose. From what I understand, the general consensus was those who are here, are here for the fights because there are lots of them. If this is the case, then most should not be against shutting down the tick during off hours.

The idea has been kicked around 2-3 weeks ago and did have overwhelming support. Perhaps in the past it didn’t, but now (from what I’ve seen), it does.

Their play time wouldn’t be less valuable than others. I’d say capturing whatever you can, upgrading it, and filling it full of siege for the next group is a lot more valuable than you think.

Before the prime timers log, they try and leave the SEA crowd something to work with, so they can concentrate on offense. Vice versa, the SEA crowd should be leaving as much as they can for the next group to come on.

The PPT is basically a by-product of whats going on and doesn’t need to be ticking during the off hours. It’s not a measure of skill nor a reflection of a servers capability to have large amounts of people playing from different time zones.

People need to ask themselves these 2 things:

1) If Anet does decide to shut off PPT during the off hours, what are the SEA people going to do who have the capability to play during a time slot where it ticks? Do they swap severs? Could this be a possible answer to server population mismatches? For Anet, the quickest and easiest solution to many blowout matches is to just turn off the PPT during off hours.

2) How exactly would T1 look if the PPT was shut off during off hours? On reset night, it was pretty much dead even up until people started logging off. It was close, it was fun (minus the skill lag of course). I can’t speak for others, but I think people have more fun in close matches than they do during the extreme blow out matches that we see.

This will never happen and should never happen, as it would marginalise half of the active WvW population. Just because you are asleep doesn’t mean the Oceanic/SEA/EU players are somehow less competitive than NA, posts like these will kitten off a lot of people because it is completely arrogant and ignorant as hell.

To counter the first point, no they wouldn’t switch servers because of the communities that were established on those servers. No-one wants to move because its a massive cost to the guild, in terms of influence, money and members that leave because of it.

In regards to the second, it would most likely be as it is now in each of the match-ups but probably with less people because removing SEA/oceanics/EU from the game in regards to score would make most of T1 quit.

So no, its a bad idea

Don’t put your tag on a ranger as it is probably the weakest class in WvW within a zerg even if run the broken beastmaster builds that are viable 1v5. You will be focused to the high heavens, and as a commander you have one job – that is to stay alive while giving directions. Ranger is a poor choice due to its low survivability.

DKNS.2135:

celeron.3469:

juicifruitz.6251:

at the time of the SoS implosion BG had just received 13* guilds (including the AOL alliance, MERC, FOE, AGG to name but a few) from SoS.

*this number maybe out by 1 or 2 but it is extremely close to not give a kitten

It sounds more like you couldn’t name 13 guilds. I’ll help you, I’ll even include the numbers they usually ran at that time.

NA:
AoI: ATac (25), OnS(25) , Work(15), DR(10), VI(5-8)
Agg (30)/FoE (25) – Transferred 2 weeks before the rest, then transferred off BG 2 weeks later or something

Oceanic:
MERC (40)

SEA:
ND (40)

I’m 95% sure I’m not forgetting any guilds, leaving 5% there because it has been awhile… maybe there is some guild I don’t remember… maybe. That is 9 guilds, 2 of which were small guilds with about 50 members each. I’ll also tell you AoI did not get paid to move anywhere. I farmed Orr for 3 days before I had enough to move.

I’ll also tell you it was probably JQ’s stacking during free transfers that made the move happen, not their EU, not SoR, not SoR’s EU. SoS got VoTF and ND during that, but it was still not enough to compete with JQ. Also during that time JQ was telling every potential transfer how stacked SoS was, even ignoring the fact that SoS had lost half its NA and the only SEA it had was MERC (who didn’t always play SEA at that time) and ND.

There’s always somebody who tries to bring that move up, but when I come in there as somebody who was actually part of it, you never hear from that person again.

It was both JQ and SoR responsible. JQ after forming the mega-server went all out on us because of the bitter JQ-SoS rivalry and SoR, knowing at that time that they can not compete against JQ, decided to focus SoS for weeks. I was with MERC at that time and i too remember how those weeks went. It was daily overtimes and a chore just to try to stay in T1.

Meh, it’s over anyways and is like beating a dead horse (i myself shouldn’t have brought it up originally). I am just enjoying this match-up for the time being because of them SoR tears so let’s just drop it. Besides, BG has been awesome and i have no regrets and i am pretty sure many of the others who came as well

Just have to point out that the major reason can’t be lead at the feet of “x” server, as its always internal – if a server collapses after a peak there is usually a strong in-house element as with what happened on ET with TL/PTX/RUIN/FoE/LotD.

For a while there was a little tension between the NA guilds on SoS regarding when they could take “rest/training weeks” – as it sometimes was not communicated widely to the other NA guilds. This often left the other guilds such as AoI to get the rough end of the stick and I remember after the first couple of incidents a majority of the NA guys just stopped logging in. I remember one of the weeks that we had to break JQ and SBIs T3 structures in oceanic (0000-0400 server time), that being our home towers on our home bl that were high tier (including a t2 JQ garrison, and the home two t2 towers).

This constant stress was amplified by the fact the server had no SEA coverage albeit from ND who were one guild against the many from JQ. I wasn’t in MERC while on SoS, and joined later when DiE began to field like 4 guys per night as opposed to its old 15-20; so I can’t speak for MERCs internal issues with SoS

But what would you do if having dismal ppt into your prime became a repetitive thing, where you would log and have to break high tier home structures for around 4 weeks with no likely change? We started on like 120 ppt each night (ONE carrying the server in EB) and had to work with paper until SEA where it was guaranteed that we’d lose everything. Every night was a losing battle because we eventually lose to attrition on everything other than home bl.

BG/SoR were appealing for transfers as they had strong NA on one hand and strong SEA/EU (Thai and co) on the other – we eventually settled on BG and yeah you know the rest to a degree. When MERC moved there didn’t seem to be much of a point for the other guilds that moved to stay on the server as when a large amount of your population leaves from a timezone it is guaranteed to bite the rest of the server in the kitten .

Siege trolling by random players happens to most servers at some point, and currently there is no way to get these guys to stop other than waiting it out and hoping they get bored. There is a precedent to get these guys banned (i.e. Manual-breathing got banned after a ANet staff member was contacted) as what they are doing breaches the ToS (https://www.guildwars2.com/en/legal/guild-wars-2-rules-of-conduct/).

There really isn’t a way currently to report these people, as filling a garrison full of ballistas and rams whilst emptying the supply doesn’t fall under botting, spamming, verbal abuse or scamming.

Here’s an example (http://imgur.com/a/8VCrm ) of a person who decided to fill BG garrison with useless paper siege recently after he got called out by a well known commander for making racist slurs. I’m not going to add the name up here as it will likely get this post deleted.

This isn’t a complaint thread about one server in particular, but more to the underlying issue that there is no other way other than contacting an Anet employee directly to get these guys to stop. Including a function to report griefers would be easy to include into the report UI and would probably fix the issue.

magikfox.9658:

Kiff.8157:

magikfox.9658:

Liquid.9672:

Jahn.7019:

BG is buying over 3 more JQ guilds on top of re/esol.

The stacking continues.

The check I wrote you cleared. You can hit that transfer button anytime bro.

Sir, by any chance were you thinking of the word ‘cheque’.
Although the words sound the same
Their meaning are really quite different.

And esol? Isn’t that learning english as a second language?

spelling correction when you yourself fail at it? esol and esl, but you are close, well done for a learner

ESOL = English for Speakers of Other Languages.

Slight difference of course. I believe the difference between ESOL and ESL isn’t ANYTHING to do with syntax. Slight difference in semantic features. Therefore I didn’t really fail at spelling.

I was being an ignorant non-American

I find kiwis to be especially ignorant, I mean they don’t even know how to play rugby well let alone knowing an abbreviation that is used globally as a standard.

While we may complain about this matchup being stagnant as hell, it is the most competitive WvW that we’re likely to get in its current stage. Think of map politics this way (presuming everyone plays for first);

JQ: Strong SEA/Mod NA/Weak EU/Weak OC (1 strong, one mod and 2 weak)
BG: Mod SEA/Mod NA/Mod EU/Mod OC (4 moderately pop’ed)
SoR: Mod SEA/Strong NA/Strong EU/Mod OC (2 strong, 2 moderate)

SEA: JQ comes out ahead, SoR and BG fight over ppt and is often a stalemate (JQ++)
NA: SoR comes out ahead, JQ and BG fight over ppt and is often a stalemate (SoR+)
EU: SoR comes out ahead, BG leeches JQ points (SoR++; JQ-, BG +)
OC: SoR and BG come out ahead, and both leech JQ points (JQ-; BG/SoR +)

On paper SoR should always win via coverage, BG coming in second and JQ last – why is this never the case, well its to do with server politics. Its in JQs best interest to buddy up with either side because in that way JQ has less points that are leeched off by either BG or SoR (in oceanic for BG, EU/NA for SoR) – they have used this strat ever since the ET/HoD days where JQ would double team ET so that JQ would get a guaranteed 1st or 2nd place.

In a three way there is always a server that in reality is stronger than coverage than JQ but you have to give them credit, they are good at the politics game. Also it doesn’t hurt that BG and SoR generally don’t play nice to turn the tables back on JQ.

Comparing API from last week to weeks prior (thanks neli for fixing these up):
*2v1 on SoR
(33) https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArqZ3AWECmvVdHJiX2tYZXpYYnhvVjhxeFNNaDZtcmc#gid=1

*2v1 on BG
(32) https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArqZ3AWECmvVdDloMEozRlhIcUJiMjR2bjhWbFA0M0E#gid=1

Kiijj.3594:

Nakoor.1980:

Ladies and Gentlemen, a short preview to the Drunk Commander Night hosted by myself and Sanghae every thursday night. Some actually singing by Miss Lana also included.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilGNRTA_xS0

I hope you guys have a video of us singing ‘Dancing Queen’ and wiping MERC with it.

You could probably sing daisy and wipe 25 with 75 people. Are you surprised that you get doubleteamed in SEA?

Only a WvW player would respond to “inc” being called and respond: “Where the kitten is inc!”

Only a WvW player would get recognise one FoO/WM/ND guy in a zerg and does not shout out in map chat OMG FOO/WM/ND zerg

Only a WvW player would see a guy towards a jumping puzzle as a free bag

RavyGravy.6830:

Im keen to see how the new patch will effect the meta, good luck tonight everyone

Basically it’ll be an arrow-cart driven meta I think, more open field siege and objectives will be far more stable if there are players to defend it using seige. The boon hate trait for the warrior looks to have promise, and I’ll be trying to theorycraft some builds around it, however I think its just a bit gimicky. Glamor bombs will still be viable due to the AoE blind, but the nerf to confusion damage will definitely pull things back a bit.

Will be good to see

Taldeer.6720:

RPing in SoR BL spawn. We even smuggled Tarkus into our spawn to witness it! See, 100% proof Tarkus is a pro RPer.

(Completely realistic art effects made by Tati)

oh god

Deli.1302:

blackgatewvw.com

This is a discussion to be had on your own server forum.

^This

If you haven’t registered yet dont be shy, just contact an admin and they’ll set you up.

Cover Girl.2580:

Ok. SOS guild leaders. We have an issue with DiE (Darkness is Everywhere). Twice they have exploited the hills on SBI BL. Please address this with your guys and handle it accordingly.

Wrong, guess again. (clue: we had a mesmer in here)

Organization and not random zerging OP, please nerf. If you have issues with losing fights become more organised and boonstrip if you think thats your issue.

Who has a sudden urge to put all of the forum trolls in a sack and throw them into the ocean if you could?

Fannwong.3059:

Gentlemen,

What we have now is a full blown arms race between BG and SOR.

The enmity, distrust and hate between both servers have gone far and deep. In the last 5 months, I’ve had a senior Merc commander/leader tell me how SOR folks were slamming and insulting him via PMs. SOR also has received it’s fair share of hate PMs, etc. The list goes on, tit for tat, etc. There is no end to this.

Like in the real world, the server leaders from will not trust each other to have a ‘fair’ number to deal with. The outcome is simple, each server will continue to mud sling, chest thump and accuse each other of having ‘unfair’ numbers and continue to bring in WvW guilds into their fold. There is also no end to this.

If only we could fight like gentlemen, as warriors of old with honor and integrity. Alas, I think it may be impossible.

FW

Kaidengaran.3528:

SOR, stop complaining about coverage. You have NA/EU coverage stacked, we have OC/SEA stacked….it balances out.

Doomdesire.9365:

Also interesting read here, if you refuse to believe anything I say because I’m from SoR.

Good post, thanks Fann for writing a level headed response

HIRE and MERC are similar in a way, in that we both have commanders of various skill levels, a high member base and also utilize militia (i.e. don’t turn away PuGs). You can’t blame either side for really getting a huge zerg in Oceanic as they are usually the only guilds that tag up in that prime-time. For example on a good night we would routinely roll over the top of HIRE, usually when we have T3+WP we would get militia support due to server morale and the same applies with SoR when they have more numbers and we have a lot less. Server morale is a really important factor, and I don’t think its even possible to compare each guild as we usually run with mostly militia forces anyway.

To the guys who ask why don’t we just run tagless and try to dissuade militia from following? Well the simple response is that if you are the only guild covering the BL’s you need to remain w/ a tag or you will lose people from all maps and that would be an overwhelmingly negative thing for the server. I’d argue that the numbers in the oceanic timezone are pretty much equivalent in regards to actual GMT+10 players, but where the imbalance is is when you get late NA and early SEA joining in.

Lorthos is a decent commander and I have respect for him on-field, but often as not the decider is usually absolute numbers, in regards to skill level – well that is usually dependent on the commanders on field. We have a few decent commanders, and a few less so – as does SoR.

tl;dr: Quit the BS and play the freaking game. If you have less numbers just roll with it, and if you have more be respectful and realize that the next day you might not have the same advantage

Israel.7056:

Lightning.4129:

No. MERC fields more numbers than HIRE. They’re not necessarily stronger.

It’s a matter of opinion but after playing with both I’d put MERC above HIRE.

elithrar.7143:

kitten.3178:

All this skill lag… is this how T1 is? How do you even play like this

111111111111111111111111

Pfft casual, everyone knows its, 1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1 f-f-f-f-f-f-f-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-f-f-f-f

Azure.8412:

Similar…
OCX – 10 – Occasional Raids
AFS – 10-20 Daily Raids
NYS – 15-30 Occasional Raids
SAHP – 15-20 Occasional Raids
SONG – 10+
HIRE – 20-30 Daily Raids but rarely ever go into SEA
(TSYM – 15)
(IRON – Early EU – 15-20)

BG, ON the other hand…
MERC – 30-40 Daily and venture into SEA as well (15-20 Oceanic; 20-25 SEA; 15 EU; Consistent)
WM – 15-20 (15-20; may play in NA so not play in SEA)
ND and ND – 30+(20-30 SEA; Consistent)
Urge – 20-30 (~15-20; SEA; Doesn’t play every night)
CA – 20-30 (~15-20 CA; late NA-SEA; consistent)
XF – 25-30 (~20 SEA; Consistent)
Thai – 20-30 (15-20; Occasionally raids into EU; not generally running in SEA)

Equal, definitely, considering sometimes SAHP and NYS don’t even go on raids.

Corrected in Brackets, everyone presumes numbers are higheer than they really are considering the length of red names. You also have to consider PuGs as well, as SoR is known for having NA militia stay up, for example TSYM and having NA get up early (TW). Same thing happens in BG to a degree, I’m not going to dispute it – but everyone likes to play the underdog and I think SoRs oceanic/SEA need to stop thinking that they are somehow outmanned when they run map zergs.

Ciic.3679:

Karma train has made wvw a joke atm – no server pride

Agreed, Karma training is just a bad joke of whats supposed to be a PvP mode. If people want to PvE, do it in PvE.

600+ppt from any server in a “competitive” matchup is a sad sight to see. This isn’t a complaint or QQ, its just disappointing to see this happen to any T1 server to other T1 servers. This season will cause a lot of hardcore players to quit the game, I can guarantee it.

Liquid.9672:

Peetee.9406:

Merc logic, taking offense to a compliment.

I’m pretty sure Tarkus quoted the wrong post, and was responding to Azure.

Yeah, my bad