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The silent majority is probably the biggest threat because they don’t care whichever way GW2 develop. They just go where there is more fun. They will leave the game at the first instant when the tide turn.
The ‘noisy troublemaker’ complainer minority are those who worries and cares about this game to feel frustrated to complain. They are vested into this game and will not want to see it go down to the competitors.
So, cool down the bashing of the ‘noisy’ minority. Silence of the majority does not mean approval. It probably meant apathy.
Im one of the silent majority (well mostly silent) I dont post much and play games as a hobby. Im 40+ have disposable income to spend on my hobby, Im the perfect customer for MMO’s (I play a few). I came to GW2 with 3 things in mind:
1. PvP/WvWvW play: Its had some problems, while not game breaking from time to time those problems were prohibitive of fun.
2. To play a ranger and be viable: I always play ranged classes in MMO’s, i like it. The Ranger in Gw2 is the absolute lowest toon on the totem pole. That wouldnt be so bad if the pets werent crap.
3. I dont want to grind. I leveled to 80 I did what I needed to do in PVE even did the Orr karma trains to get gear. I want to be done and competitive. Im seeing the begining of the treadmill (ascended gear is absolutely a gate way to the grind) to be competitive in the areas I enjoy.
Im close to leaving the game, the ranger patch was a joke. Im the guy they want to keep dumb fat and happy, MMO’s love me I have a $75 a month budget for video games, if there is something worth purchasing.
I’m an adult. I’m not going to ragequit or whine about my disappointment in the ranger patch. But as an adult, I am making the decision to shelf my guild wars 2 game and move on to something else to play in the meantime. I simply can find more enjoyment with my freetime. My main in GW1 was ranger, I made my main here a ranger and I absolutely refuse to reroll and start all over as a warrior just to attempt to find that “ranger feel” for unbroken class play. Frankly, I’d be bored leveling another character.
I reached level 80 long ago, completed world map completion, and have been disappointed for a long time trying to stay motivated to play as a ranger in WvW which is pretty much end game for me. The bugs in WvW and the perpetual issues with the ranger class combined have not made this game fun as a level 80 char. I’ve always told others who take games too seriously or seem to get wrapped up in drama “If the game isn’t fun, don’t play it”. Games are made to be fun. So in lieu of that, I’m done with GW2 at this time. I’ll keep reading the forums from time to time hoping for these patch promises to come. I did have fun leveling in pve but that was over long ago…and if I divide the game costs by the months its been out my expense comes out to about $15 per month…same I would pay for P2P. So, I call it even…not great, but even.
This is a pretty good articulation of the position I am in as well, less the GW1 expirence. Im going back to my old MMO for a while.
This is dissapointing to say the least, anet has made some bad choices the last several weeks. I dont want to roll another class, i want to play a ranger thats why I rolled it in BWE 1 and play it as a main. Highly unlikely I will be purchasing any new content at this point.
As a casual player my expectations are pretty low anyway, I did expect more. To bad, this is really dissapointing.
I’m a casual player who dwells mostly in WvWvW. Ive got Karma gear and play a ranger, for the most part Im happy with my set up and understand my class. I dont want to grind again it took a lot of effort to get this gear.
So one of you kind souls spell this out for me because Anet says no grind, I see grind. In order to stay competitive in WvWvW am I going to have to grind this new armor? Thats a game killer for me, I just want to play WvWvW a few nights a week and be competitive, I dont want to grind.
thanks in advance.
People tend to ignore your pet when you’re using melee.
This is a pretty key point here, when you use swoop and get in tight with people they really are forced to deal with you. Of course the pets are not going to win the day most of the time but it helps. I use the greatsword and as melee and mix and match bows. I fair pretty well against well geared enemy.
Still I only switch to it when necessary as the DPS i can output from my bows is better. While I dont think its instictually wrong to use the GS as a ranger in WvWvW you can be brought down very fast if you into melee, so I attempt to stay ranged.
Its situational IMHO. If your running with a zerg or even a small group short bow is a solid choice. if you are defending a keep and are on top of the wall you’ll want to have barrage for the AOE.
The longbow packs a punch based on distance, if you have range yeah its a good option but if you are close range (but out of melee) then shortbow crippling shot is a great have, it also makes your pets next 3 attacks cause a bleed and chances are youre already stacking them from crossfire.
IMHO the shortbow allows you more flexability in play style, but isnt necessarily superior overall. If you like to stand back and snipe, long bow is the way to go.
I do not agree, I feel that rangers should hit hard with their longbow, its not hard CCing or kiting a pet therefor lowering rangers damage by half. Pets should be comrades, battle companions, not liabilities. They should be utility based not damage based honestly. Unless you go BM your pet should do medium damage while being focused on its skilled like CC or conditions over damage.
This sounds about right to me, if Im going marksmen and skirmishing the pet damage output should be decreased and my personal damage increased. So the build is critical here, you go 30 marksmen you have some nice choices. Eagle eye, piercing arrows and long range power. you could add crit chance to eagle eye or piercing arrows. Long range power could reduce induction times as well as the 5%.
These are rough examples not meant to be real talking points but my point is the long bow can be buffed for damage through the trait lines, the bow skills themselves are pretty solid. Although I wouldnt mind seeing hunters shot amp up pet damage instead of swiftness.
Full berserkers EVERYTHING.
With 1500 range on the longbow, you don’t need vitality or toughness.
As others have pointed out, you’ll die fast in PvP with this build. I have a glass cannon build (went berserker jewels, working on armor) but I went in knowing i’d be dead in seconds.
@OP: Id personally wait a while and accumulate karma and make due with decent drops. Rangers are due for an update/overhaul and once that is done it would be a better time to assess what you want to do with your builds.
We checked google, and the first result we found was a working hack (well thats what their forum said). Since then some of us have stopped playing, if it is this easy to get a hack, use it freely in WvWvW and not get perma-banned, then we won’t spend our money and time playing this game.
I am begining to fall into this camp as well. The hacks and lack of action on them is a deal breaker for me. I like WvWvW, but the lack of perma banning people for knowingly using hacks will harken me back to one of my old MMO’s. Im hopeful things get better soon, i bought Gw2 specifically for the PvP and for the most part its really good outside of the hacks.
Just reading the chats on my server, I know im not alone. Guess we will see what Anet does, time is ticking away.
If you think Rangers are the biggest threat and most OP thing in WvW causing you to quit WvW, you kind of shouldn’t be in WvW in the first place :/
^This. Ive played a ranger since day 1, ive done alright but ive yet to have someone tell me Im OP, lol. I’ll take this as a compliment.
It has to be time for free transfers to go away, or at least change.
I think you’ll find plenty who agree, probably Anet too they just havent done it yet. Its begining to negatively impact their product, I came here mainly for the WvWvW (never played gw1) this issue has me looking back to my old mmo by tuesday at the lastest most weeks.
Im more in the camp of “dying”. Still time to fix it, dosent change the facts though:
There will be fighting at the weekend during the reset, but once there is a winner, by Monday everyone has transferred away from the loosers somewhere else, Leaving the winners a 100% taking
This is a problem, not sure what the delay is in correcting it.
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What happened?I logged out yesterday to IoJ holding 99% of the map with both sides struggling to get a hold.
I log in today and CD has half the pie.
Did IoJ give up? gasp Or are they not what they claim to be?
Despite popular belief, not everyone on CD “gives up” some of us have been there since day one, fighting every day (when can log on) win, loose, draw, cubstomp.
If you’re the ET/CD ranger for example I did that too….the others aren’t going to be that nice so when you try to leave your spawn point…remember, there is a back exit, other can and obv did stomp you.
I am a CD Ranger and when I get caught out and about I expect to die. When Im at range, not so much…
That said your sentiment is a nice one but in all candeor some of the issues with this match up are due to anets choices for WvWvW. People can call it whatever they want but the orbs, the hacks and the transfers/population are factors. CD also tends to mail it in early when the chips are down.
However not all of us do, I was out last night following one of our commanders (Luvpie) we got some kills and we flipped a few points. CD is a consistant rank 5-7 rank server. Ive been here since day 1 and Im not ashamed of that ranking at all. Thanks for the sentiment in your post and good luck in the next match up.
I would look at the knight’s set. I believe that’s power + toughness. I don’t recall off hand if there is a toughness & precision. All stats are the same through sets, the rest is just looks.
Thanks for the reply.
Yeah nothing jumps out at me as a great set to be honest. Wondering what others use and how they like it.
Ive leveled my ranger, and looking to get end game armor reccomendations for WvWvW play. I’d like a bit of toughness but mainly ranged damage (IM thinking precision).
Ive looked through a lot of data on the Med Armor sets but nothing jumps out at me. Reccomendations/comments most welcome.
CD was simply never meant to be a tier 1 server. Tier 2 is where it fits nicely. IoJ has become a tier 1 server with the mass exodus from ET to IoJ. CD simply doesn’t have the hardcore WvW guilds and alliances that is required to be tier 1, so going against any server that is tier 1 is obviously a mismatch.
Obviously a lot of IoJ has seen the dramatic change this match-up. It’s definitely not the same IoJ that it was before.
There is some truth to the first paragraph, as a CD player (stuck with the server, no transfers) ive observed it is infact a T2 server. That dosent negate the validity of the people saying CD gives up, ive seen it, its real. That said match ups like this help shake out where servers should be in matches. CD is a solid T2 server, not the worst place to be, in fact its not bad at all given the casual nature of the player base.
Guess we’ll see how things play out once the server transfer issue is resolved and people have to pick and settle for a server for a full match. Good luck out there, see you on the field.
As a CD player, I’m glad to see TC taking second..you guys put up a hell of a fight! Very exciting matches. As for DB…I can tell your server has some decent, respectable players by the posts in this thread, but nothing makes me happier then seeing your server on the bottom where it belongs after the ridiculous stunts your server pulled during the JQ/DB/CD matchup. Overall, great matchup!
Pretty much this. Its an absolute joy seeing DB in 3rd and the semi tears (our server quit after the 2nd night because of transfers QQ). Hope to see DB again when they cant hack, driving them further into the ground will be a pleasure. I’ll happily blow all my gold to help ensure they end up at the bottom if we face them again.
TC, good server overall much respect.
in the EB: Days 1-3, CD applied constant pressure to spend/anz, while DB repeatedly hit org/pang/speld; the fighting was mostly 1:1:1 while each server assessed and tested the others, and it took a while for things to stabilize (which is why SM was initially a fight between blue/green – DB and CD fought over it constantly, and TC mostly waited for an opportunity to sneak in, wipe everyone and steal it from both sides; we had too much pressure on either front to be able to do much else.)
CD player here, this seems about right based on my observation.
DB has an extremely poor sense of sportsmanship.
I cant speak for an entire server but Im confident more then a few people from CD feel the same way.
Most of the CD guys i’ve bumped into have been fair-to-great players, regardless of orbs.
Again cant speak for an entire server but based on what I observed in CD chats, a lot of us found TC people to be good players too. Certainly a solid server with good performance at peak times. Some more population and a tier jump wouldnt be out of the realm.
Good luck, see you on the field.
When you reach that level of zen in MMO pvp after years of unfair advantage, you don’t need to see. You SENSE ahead. ‘Invisible’ enemies is least of the problem
I found this part of the OP to be the best. I sense B.S. ahead.
Good times or bad I was out nearly every night in WvWvW for CD since release. The rendering issue and orb hacks though are ridiculous. Not a Gw1 player, came here specifically for better PvP/WvWvW from other MMO’s I play. I concede and understand it will never be perfect but I’ll be cutting back my playtime until, at a minimum the rendering issue is fixed.
Im seeing more and more negative comments in chat as well, people are tiring of hacks. Im sure Arenanet is aware and is working on the issues. I just hope they are addressed timely, the mood is going in the wrong direction.
CD here, its been a good match. TC and DB fight well, they are good opponents and should they get more population would be very formidable. Sadly the rendering issue has hit me (ive done what I can with my PC, its pretty high end) and its affecting my desire to do WvWvW.
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The rendering issue makes them ridiculously OP. I got no problem with a regular setup, no nerf bat from me but if ontop of their stealth they arent rendering thats a major problem/annoying.
It’s a double edged sword, on the one hand Narathkor is correct, on the other is a lot of people arent transfering to balance, but rather take advantage of an exsisting imbalance.
There is going to have to be a point where they shut it down, or at least suspend it during matches. We’ll be moving to 2 week matches soon if things continue as is with the transfers your going to have some matches done the first weekend and people transfering from the loosing side.
Human nature is what it is, you log on to see one server has 95% of the map guilds from your server flipping to it (or another winning server) thats going to kill the W3 play for the match (already happening).
The faucet has to be turned off at some point, if it means long queue’s then thats going to have to be the catalyst for people to move servers. This expirement isnt working.
Yeah what mug said.
We pretty much have a concensus that the server transfers is the major problem right? At least what I am reading here and elsewhere that seems to be the case why isnt it being addressed?
Do we have a direct answer from Arenanet yet?
I really don’t get why people just give up so easily.
Basically because Arenanet still gives them an out. Pretty easy to flip to a better server and zerg for the drops. Shouldnt be to hard to figure out really, happening all over.
Or they can disable WvW for the current round once you transfer.
Thats a good solution.
Karmakiller is right, the lockout should be a week moved to two once the matches extend. As it is WvW is joke and largely a waste of time until server flipping is put under control. Im not sure what the mystery is for Arenanet, it dosent appear to be a complex issue and frankittenhere seems to be concensus within the player base about the issue.
Whats the delay?
EDIT: “frankly and there” trip the language script?
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I was reading the chat last night and had people leaving the match because of this issue. Now they were being dramatic but still on CD we need all the bodies we can get. Regardless of accuracy of the claim (I dont know if its ruining W3) the perception is it is. Obviously we are still only a month in after launch but the issues are pretty clear (real or imagined). ArenaNet would be wise to address this quickly and begin to implement caps (once a week, then every 2 weeks).
We need the servers to stablize for the matches so we know what populations we have. As it is, if one jumps out to an early lead people transfer off the loosing server. This issue has to be addressed sooner rather then later.
The reason CD gets hit hard is because you don’t have the people online to put up a solid resistance.
It really isnt any more complex then this. No Queue that last 2 nights on CD, this weekend 1.5 hours.
@SoPP
Can’t really blame them when JQ W3 population is like DB/CD combined, and then doubled it.
I for myself have given up and joined the bandwagon(HoD), apparently server hopping is the intended way to play W3
^This.
Although I wont server hop, lets not get to silly with W3. There is work to be done by Anet before I and I suspect a lot of other people take rankings/performance in W3 to seriously.
WvW would be more enjoyable without that many whiners as i see in this thread.
Then you havent done PvP in other MMO’s have you? This is a right of passage, there has to be QQ ive yet to come accross any MMO with a PvP portion that didnt have people crying about something. There are legit problems here, I dont think the tears are totally baseless but people already using terms like “WvWvW will be dead in a month” is an over reaction clearly.
Anet needs to clean up the Queue’s, make server transfers more prohibitive and do a better job of matching servers based on time specific activity. Scores cant be the only measure, we know that to be a false indicator due to night capping. These issues are fixable in the short term, now in a few months if these 3 major issues arent addressed? Yeah its heading to the toilet but the tone of the outcry is premature, IMHO.
That being said, enjoy struggling against tier 2 servers during primetime only to roll them during weekday off hours, followed by being completely demolished in tier 1. Have a nice day and a nice four hour queue.
Pretty much this.