The moderator who keeps locking these threads has no idea what a real “match-up” thread is. I guess they weren’t around back when they actually existed.
These current threads are to discuss an issue with the match MAKING. Stop silencing us when we try to get our voices heard.
I can say the current issue does revolve around the adjustments that were made to Maguuma’s rating. -100 glicko rating was removed from Maguuma, thus causing the matches we currently see.
There are so many ways to counter condi and you want a base way where players can simply ignore condi against them? Learn to play.
Honestly it is you condi lovers who need to learn how to play. Don’t you realize that the condis play FOR you? There is a reason something becomes meta… and that is because it is the strongest and easiest thing to do. That said, condi is certainly meta on almost every class nowadays… Engi has avoided the condi meta and always had preferred builds in power, but now they’re running around with flamethrower spamming burn lol. Any person who defends the idea of a condi nerf is just scared that they’ll have to do more than just kite while their enemy’s health ticks away, AND FAST.
Condi damage should never be a main source of damage. It should assist your dps, at most, and provide soft CC pressure (chill, cripple, etc).
Gonna bump this. It’s a bad situation that many active and knowledgeable WvW members can agree with. People on my WvW server were shocked at the lack of attention this subject received.
HoT kills off small guilds with locking WvW upgrades behind huge gold gates, causing a lot of active non-blob players to leave the game.
Plus
HoT/Elite spec design reigns supreme and blatantly overpowered with unfun mechanics -> small-scale scene dies from lack of interest from those who remained.
Therefore:
Those entering WvW maps are going to be inherently blob-focused since the incentive to perform in small-scale is no longer there.
Consequently, as explained by an ANet programmer on reddit some time ago (without stating the real cause of it coming from changes to profession design):
Bigger, blobbier zergs all running an increase of passives, proc effects, and the likes which killed off small-scale and distributed the number of players on the map causes huge propagation of events to fire server-side every time blobs engage. Passive traits are interacting with passive traits which proc others’ passive traits which proc an effect and so on for each individual player. All of this data is loaded into a queue for processing meanwhile due to all the power creep via such low cooldowns things just keep happening while the servers try to handle all the raised events and interrupts.
Basically, if we just deleted HoT/current elite spec design the problem would largely go away. And while I think people would love to kill off the lag, playing without elites is nigh impossible when trying to win.
Until the profession team gets its **** together and designs things in a not-terrible way such that there are no system slowdowns due to event propagation coming from passives, it’ll never be solved.
Lol dude… “it has nothing to do with the servers.” Really? This game is 4 years old and I was active during all 4 years. I have been in more 3-way blob fights than you can imagine and I can promise you right now that the server/skill lag is MUCH MORE easily triggered than any time in the past. I mean really, do you think that full-queue map blob fights are something new? Do you think that all 3 servers in a match having full mono-blobs each just never happened in the past or what? It has always happened. If anything, it happens less NOW with lower populations.
Never in the past would you get server/skill lag with just TWO blobs fighting. Only when 3 full blobs would fight in Stonemist Castle. Recently, however, we have been seeing this server/skill lag/delay happen when only two blobs fight. I’m not going to pretend like I have all the answers, so it’d be nice if you wouldn’t either.
its not a downgrade….. Servers are having to do more calculations than ever before. Condition stacks, sigil/rune procs, boon duration effect and removals, stablilty etc etc etc
You seem to have everything figured out. Oh wait… all of those things always existed. :P
You downgraded the servers, didn’t you? We are getting server lag (skill lag) when just TWO zergs fight in a tower or something. You wouldn’t have ever seen that before… In the recent past, you would only see server lag/skill lag if THREE servers were fighting with full blobs, and even then you normally only saw the skill lag if those three servers were fighting in Stonemist Castle on Eternal Battlegrounds.
The celestial avatar already received a huge nerf. If druid loses anymore defense vs condi then the class will be almost pointless to play until condi is fixed. Yes, I say fixed because honestly condi damage in this game ruins the gameplay, in my opinion. It does absolutely too much damage. People are able to drop loads of condi and then kite around while you die… pretty funny. :P Then we instead have people complaining about something already nerfed, like celestial avatar.
A bug has persisted in the alpine wvw map for some many weeks now. I cannot provide any specific details besides that if a person dies in Askalion Hills keep and then tries to waypoint to spawn, they will often be teleported to spawn in a DIFFERENT map. I’m not sure if this happens in both green & blue alpine maps, but I am positive that it happens in the blue alpine map. This is a very bad bug for organized gameplay because on most servers there will be a queue on this map, preventing the return to that map. Good players, and even commanders, will be stuck out of the map due to the queue.
Not many details can be given on this bug because all we know is that we get ported to a different map when trying to respawn (while dead) in Askalion Hills. I hope an investigation to fix this can be started. I’m sorry if this thread has already been made before. If any people with similar experiences can post here to make the thread active, that’d be nice.
Thank you!
edit: In my case today, I was ported from blue alpine to red desert.
I would really like for this new team chat to just be removed and reverted to the old team chat. It has mainly only been used for trolling and random chat spam so far. Toxic members of a WvW community are just going to use team chat to flame and shame members of their server where EVERYONE can see it.
Servers have pretty much already formed other ways to scout across maps. This new team chat really just makes life easier for trolls.
Yes, it was. “Search and Rescue” became bugged after the patch. When activated, it can teleport allies very far away from your location. I mean very far.
Even after 3 yes votes, not moving. I feel like I came back bought HoT on 3 accounts, gliders and such to update it. Just getting back into WvW … feeling excited and pumped about this game again. Seeing the results all week up above the threshold … wanting to support the company again (already spent over $300 in 3 months across my 3 accounts).
Now looking at the glaring 74.9% knowing this would result in 3 month rotations of maps versus providing players the ability to chose the maps they want to play … not even worth it. There was people actively in WvW maps encouraging the votes for simultaneous borderlands … and others on comms saying they already on comms backing there votes for it. And now – end of week … it’s going to fail? When does it close tomorrow?
Well … kitten. Faith in things sometimes lead us to make stupid choices. I’ve had faith in Anet since GW1 bwe’s … I’m getting the sinking feeling I made a poor decision. I hate making poor decisions.
So, how did Anet fail you? ANet gave the community as a whole the opportunity to let their voices be heard and provide a change based on the majority of opinions. That sounds like a positive aspect in a company… not a negative one. Expecting more than that is a bit far-fetched.
So glad to find out that it wasn’t a personal problem. This also began happening for me after the update patch. I couldn’t even play WvW properly earlier today because the commander would randomly disappear and his tag would stay in the same spot and slowly fade away. Large groups of allies would either disappear or appear near me. I could still see their dots on the mini-map.
Hoping this issue is an easy one to figure out. o/
slimike.1693 let count how many complains vs how many ppl love this patch , ( there are MORE complains ) also did you waited 1 to 2 hours ? will you be happy waiting 2 hour per day from now on ? if you say yes u don’t mind , transfer to my server lol ,
I will give u a week in my server waiting for 1 or hours to get in wvw , then you will be posting complain lol
if you wanna use the word majority , if there was a majority of you ? why do I see more complain then ppl posting they love this patch ?
also majority of us , who work , got family
and just wanna spend an hour or so in the game to relax
for the people who want to fight in high population servers , let they pay to transfer
that is best its a win win for everyone
You saying that there are more complaints than satisfied players is not true. Most people are very happy about this update. The reason you see more complaints on the forum is because people that have complaints are more likely to make posts than people without complaints.
I agree with OP. Thank you ANet. Condi meta was too bothersome. Condi reaper will still be viable, but I am so glad to think that some people may give power builds a shot.
go say that to mesmer, s3 will be all about mesmers and anet is swinging the nerf bat to them next same goes to revs
While chronomancer condi was annoying, it didn’t bother me as much as a reaper would. Reapers would show up to a fight and instantly make an insane difference to the outcome of the fight. Chronomancers at least needed a moment to get started.
Not to be dramatic or anything, but I have also been DYING (literally) to see condi reapers whine and moan like this. Thank you condi reapers for making pvp more annoying and tedious than anything else. Please sit down now. o/
I agree with OP. Thank you ANet. Condi meta was too bothersome. Condi reaper will still be viable, but I am so glad to think that some people may give power builds a shot.
ANet, thank you! I have been waiting for this day. So excited. I enjoy all the changes that you have made. Honestly, the patch notes are almost too good to be true. Love it.
Okay- we’ve seen a major undocumented change in the guild bounty this week from the last patch which is probably unintended.
Our group started the guild bounty – and were not rewarded for killing 1 of the 3 bosses for there personal credits/chests.
The behaviour of the guild bounty has always been kill a bounty target (of any in the list) and you would receive a personal reward.
Now it seems we need to kill all of our bounty targets (e.g. 3 or 5) etc for people to get there personal rewards.
Note: Guild Rewards always have required killing all the targets.
Is this change going to stay – cause if it is – we wont be doing bounty again (ever) – being a small guild (<5 for GM) its impossible to get all the targets within the 10 mins.
Please confirm if this change is staying or an unintended change.
Many Thanks
I did not have to kill all 3 personally to get the reward today even though I participated in them. However, I did not receive a personal reward for Trek, Race, or Puzzle today. I completed all 3 perfectly, just like I have in the past, but still did not receive a personal reward. I think the personal rewards are rather buggy at the moment and I hope it is addressed.
Last week I didn’t get credit for the guild challenge. This week I didn’t get credit for guild challenge or guild bounty. I did everything the way that I was supposed to. I’ve been doing these guild missions since they were released and it has become very frequent that the personal rewards are bugging out for people and they are not receiving them. How can this be helped? Or am I wasting my time?
Strafing, if you are in range, or get to melee range if you see hammer. Problem solved. there are 2 additional counters to hammer besides the usual of dodge/blind/block etc
But i guess its easier to complain on forums rather than L2P
Clearly did not read thread lol.
There are no complaints about it in small format WvW, in a duel you can see the wind up and ur not going to get hit by the final CoR in the chain. You can push to the target and engage in melee.
The problem comes when you have 5 of them at the back of say a 30 man zerg, in fact with hammer how it is you might as well replace every backline DPS class with a rev. Zerker staff eles, get rid of them, DPS necros, cya later, no waiting for wells to come off cooldown, hammer 2 every 2 seconds!!. Replace all of them with hammer Rev’s, they are vastly superior in DPS.
If you dont play WvW a lot you are not really qualified to be talking. T1 backline for zergs or guild groups 15+ is pretty much a chain of hammer revs. You cant strafe and avoid 5-8 hammer revs CoR’ing every 2 seconds, you cant push through 30 people to
get to melee range if you see hammer
like the kittening Einstein’s on here would have you think is the counter.
In fact given the pirate ship meta you cant push at all unless you want to be blown up in about 1/2 a second.
First of all, WvW is a failed format and no one cares about 40 v40 balance.
Then why are you even commenting, the complaints about hammer 2 are only in WvW groups 10-15 and up. Not PvP, not Duels, not PvE. Rather than coming into a thread not reading it at all and coming up with some solution that is not plausible to a problem you have no clue about.
There is a semblance of balance to WvW despite what you like to think. Im not even sure if it’s just an attempt to be disingenuous or you legitimately think the game has no balance at all in WvW. And some things just break that entirely like the hammer 2 skill. Look at other backline skills, Meteor shower has a 1.3 coefficient and a 30 second cooldown is a good example.
Also notice you are the only one crying about hammer 2. If your complaint is about wvw take it to the wvw forums. Hammer is fine in pve and spvp which are the game modes Anet is balancing on. When everyone else tells you that you are wrong chances are you need to stop replying
Lol all these people defending their broken class. I know it probably scares you to think that you might have to be balanced to be more comparable to other classes. He is not the only one “crying about hammer 2.” You must not log into the game very much. I hate to break it to you, but there is no doubt that ANet will nerf Revenant hammer. The only question is just when.
And why they would nerf underpowered weapon? Doesnt make sense for me.
It really kills my brain cells to read this after my elementalist was hit by a CoR that for some reason hit twice with one blow, dealing 10k damage each blow- which adds up more than my max health. I was 1 shot. How can you not agree with these two points:
1) Nothing should be hitting 10k except maybe kill-shot on warrior.
2) Nothing should be one-shotting ANYONE.
I know you really want to keep a broken advantage over other players, but please don’t make such an eye-rolling joke response to me. The reason I know ANet will nerf it is because (if they stick to their past behavior in patches) they nerf every single skill that does really high damage up until this day. CoR doesn’t only have really high damage, it has game-breaking high damage. Why play any other class if you can smack multiple people for over 10k damage with a skill that only has a 2 second cool-down and 1200 range?
Come spvp and show me these mad 10k crits on my tempest. Oh and in case if you didnt know – on regular basic true shot hits harder than max range CoR.
Oh and in case you haven’t logged into the game recently, everyone and their mother knows CoR can easily hit over 10k.
Strafing, if you are in range, or get to melee range if you see hammer. Problem solved. there are 2 additional counters to hammer besides the usual of dodge/blind/block etc
But i guess its easier to complain on forums rather than L2P
Clearly did not read thread lol.
There are no complaints about it in small format WvW, in a duel you can see the wind up and ur not going to get hit by the final CoR in the chain. You can push to the target and engage in melee.
The problem comes when you have 5 of them at the back of say a 30 man zerg, in fact with hammer how it is you might as well replace every backline DPS class with a rev. Zerker staff eles, get rid of them, DPS necros, cya later, no waiting for wells to come off cooldown, hammer 2 every 2 seconds!!. Replace all of them with hammer Rev’s, they are vastly superior in DPS.
If you dont play WvW a lot you are not really qualified to be talking. T1 backline for zergs or guild groups 15+ is pretty much a chain of hammer revs. You cant strafe and avoid 5-8 hammer revs CoR’ing every 2 seconds, you cant push through 30 people to
get to melee range if you see hammer
like the kittening Einstein’s on here would have you think is the counter.
In fact given the pirate ship meta you cant push at all unless you want to be blown up in about 1/2 a second.
First of all, WvW is a failed format and no one cares about 40 v40 balance.
Then why are you even commenting, the complaints about hammer 2 are only in WvW groups 10-15 and up. Not PvP, not Duels, not PvE. Rather than coming into a thread not reading it at all and coming up with some solution that is not plausible to a problem you have no clue about.
There is a semblance of balance to WvW despite what you like to think. Im not even sure if it’s just an attempt to be disingenuous or you legitimately think the game has no balance at all in WvW. And some things just break that entirely like the hammer 2 skill. Look at other backline skills, Meteor shower has a 1.3 coefficient and a 30 second cooldown is a good example.
Also notice you are the only one crying about hammer 2. If your complaint is about wvw take it to the wvw forums. Hammer is fine in pve and spvp which are the game modes Anet is balancing on. When everyone else tells you that you are wrong chances are you need to stop replying
Lol all these people defending their broken class. I know it probably scares you to think that you might have to be balanced to be more comparable to other classes. He is not the only one “crying about hammer 2.” You must not log into the game very much. I hate to break it to you, but there is no doubt that ANet will nerf Revenant hammer. The only question is just when.
And why they would nerf underpowered weapon? Doesnt make sense for me.
It really kills my brain cells to read this after my elementalist was hit by a CoR that for some reason hit twice with one blow, dealing 10k damage each blow- which adds up more than my max health. I was 1 shot. How can you not agree with these two points:
1) Nothing should be hitting 10k except maybe kill-shot on warrior.
2) Nothing should be one-shotting ANYONE.
I know you really want to keep a broken advantage over other players, but please don’t make such an eye-rolling joke response to me. The reason I know ANet will nerf it is because (if they stick to their past behavior in patches) they nerf every single skill that does really high damage up until this day. CoR doesn’t only have really high damage, it has game-breaking high damage. Why play any other class if you can smack multiple people for over 10k damage with a skill that only has a 2 second cool-down and 1200 range?
Strafing, if you are in range, or get to melee range if you see hammer. Problem solved. there are 2 additional counters to hammer besides the usual of dodge/blind/block etc
But i guess its easier to complain on forums rather than L2P
Clearly did not read thread lol.
There are no complaints about it in small format WvW, in a duel you can see the wind up and ur not going to get hit by the final CoR in the chain. You can push to the target and engage in melee.
The problem comes when you have 5 of them at the back of say a 30 man zerg, in fact with hammer how it is you might as well replace every backline DPS class with a rev. Zerker staff eles, get rid of them, DPS necros, cya later, no waiting for wells to come off cooldown, hammer 2 every 2 seconds!!. Replace all of them with hammer Rev’s, they are vastly superior in DPS.
If you dont play WvW a lot you are not really qualified to be talking. T1 backline for zergs or guild groups 15+ is pretty much a chain of hammer revs. You cant strafe and avoid 5-8 hammer revs CoR’ing every 2 seconds, you cant push through 30 people to
get to melee range if you see hammer
like the kittening Einstein’s on here would have you think is the counter.
In fact given the pirate ship meta you cant push at all unless you want to be blown up in about 1/2 a second.
First of all, WvW is a failed format and no one cares about 40 v40 balance.
Then why are you even commenting, the complaints about hammer 2 are only in WvW groups 10-15 and up. Not PvP, not Duels, not PvE. Rather than coming into a thread not reading it at all and coming up with some solution that is not plausible to a problem you have no clue about.
There is a semblance of balance to WvW despite what you like to think. Im not even sure if it’s just an attempt to be disingenuous or you legitimately think the game has no balance at all in WvW. And some things just break that entirely like the hammer 2 skill. Look at other backline skills, Meteor shower has a 1.3 coefficient and a 30 second cooldown is a good example.
Also notice you are the only one crying about hammer 2. If your complaint is about wvw take it to the wvw forums. Hammer is fine in pve and spvp which are the game modes Anet is balancing on. When everyone else tells you that you are wrong chances are you need to stop replying
Lol all these people defending their broken class. I know it probably scares you to think that you might have to be balanced to be more comparable to other classes. He is not the only one “crying about hammer 2.” You must not log into the game very much. I hate to break it to you, but there is no doubt that ANet will nerf Revenant hammer. The only question is just when.
I find it absolutely hilarious that ANet nerfed Warrior hammer and D/D ele before because they were “too OP,” but then they go and add something as game breaking as Revenant hammer in their expansion. How annoying is that? I cannot help but shake my head at the majority of the changes to the game that came with the release of HoT. I am not trying to be overly negative, but GW2 has been my favorite game for 3 years now. I don’t want to see these kind of game breaking changes. Why has it taken so long to fix? The holidays are not a good enough excuse, because HoT went live on October 23. So, your holiday break lasted all the way through the last week of October, all of December, and is extending still to this very day? Work on the game, please.
The “Plush Ram Backpack” has taunted me and called my name every time that I have opened the bank wardrobe. I would really, really like to have this item. I have been really impressed with the anniversary sales in the gem store currently. I would love to see the “Plush Ram Backpack” added into the sale before it ends. I hope that is possible!
I’m not sure how much it will help by making this thread, but I decided that I would try something!
I’m looking for a server (either NA or EU, whichever server seems interesting) that could use an extra public commander. I prefer leading open-field fights, but I keep interest in the game through a combination of both open-field fights and supporting the server that I’m on. This means that I lose interest on servers that don’t care about their allied guilds and server performance. I am very well experienced in open-field combat given my guild history since the game released. I have been in several successful GvG guilds since release.
I do want to mention that I only command in voice comms (teamspeak, mumble) since I prefer organized and compact combat. I would like to make sure whatever server that I join actively uses their teamspeak/mumble/whatever and that pugs/militia would actually join the channel. Not saying I need a blob, but I would definitely prefer commanding more than just 5 or 10 people in voice comms. I would focus on commanding mostly during NA prime, but I’m honestly free to command at most times and find myself playing both EU and NA prime on most days. Most of my experience comes from being part of open-field oriented guilds and following their commanders/drivers. I have commanded several times, but I’m not perfect on siege placement just yet. My combat skills are more refined.
Please either send me a PM here on the forums or add my account name in-game and send me a mail or whisper and I’ll respond.
Would FA be looking for an additional public commander? I prefer playing for open-field fights, but I keep interest in the game through a combination of both open-field combat and server interest. This means that I like playing for a server or else I find the game pointless (outside of fights, anyway). Playing ppt when necessary still amuses me if I find the server that I’m on worth playing for. I also only command in voice comms (teamspeak, mumble) since I prefer organized and compact combat.
I think it’s only a matter of time before WvW is poisoned with the megaserver disease that has fully engulfed PVE maps now.
DAoC had “clusters” and other games have server mergers, and it seems that GW2 is going to have the same even in WvW. But there are a few things that still need to be addressed like queues before megaservers is rolled out into WvW. We currently have 27 EU servers and 24 NA servers and my prediction is that by the end of the year we’ll only have half as many.
O sure, they’ve given assurances otherwise, but after the bulldozer rollout of megaservers in PVE, I fully expect similar consequences in WvW.
I have to disagree with you that megaserver is a “plague.” I am very happy to have the pve maps more populated. I’m sorry if you’re from a high populated server that didn’t have this issue, but many places were nearly dead-zones.
The megaserver update is a great way to keep a game healthy and lively, certainly nearly 2 years after its release. Your idea that this may hit WvW is just a speculation. Doing this to pve maps and pvp maps are two very different things. It was a huge plus for pve.
Megaservers in WvW does not even make sense. Don’t worry about that.
You say it’s because of megaservers, yet this same queue issue happened last reset. It wasn’t as bad, but still happened with people unable to spam at the portals correctly all the sudden.
Why the BG/JQ/SoR thread was just closed is beyond me. With full respect, I think your moderators are creating more of an “issue” with the threads than there really is. My post three posts above this one goes further into detail than this one, but I’d like to say again that these match-up threads should be open to competitive conversations that are not moderated in such a strict manner as other sections of the forum.
It’s obvious that your code of conduct will become strenuous for moderators in environments where there is competitive talk between opposing servers. That doesn’t mean that they need to be shut down… just simply moderated with slightly different codes of conduct.
I think this is not a very helpful decision. The match-up sub-forum had a lot of traffic from the WvW community and, for a significant amount of people, provided some of the entertainment involved with WvW. Having match-up threads where servers and guilds could converse in competitive manners brought more life to the game than you would think.
Sure people get angry, but doesn’t that come with any type of competitive gaming? This including any type of game, even offline (football, baseball, etc). It adds a hype that we can’t get in-game due to obviously not being able to talk at large with opposing servers and guilds. As the game progresses in age, you want to avoid any decisions that may dull the competitive game-play since most of us have been here for a long time and we need to stay interested.
I understand that your forum has it’s code of conduct and the match-up threads can get fiery, but your moderators do clean it up pretty efficiently. As for how you state that they spend too much time doing this, I think that just goes to show how much your player-base is involved competitively with each other. This just means that your game is alive and kicking.
18 RG would’ve wiped any 25 man guild group, why can’t TW?
Not sure, probably cause we end up having more range than melee every night? You guys sure do like RG huh? You guys shoulda seen them back in the day, they were quite a sight to see. Were you guys even around back then?
LOL who what guild? Tell us please. Quit your kittening. You guys came to many guilds on SOS last week asking if we wanted to team up with you against BG. Get over yourself. As I’ve said the MAIN sos guilds have no deals and intend not to make one.
I have a few screen shots. I’ll PM them to you. But I don’t really feel that this is a conversation that needs to go much further. SoS is confused whether they’re double-teaming or not, SoR are a bunch of whipped dogs, and BG are conquering kittens. I think we’ve established the current modus operandi.
I see. I think this is a 3-way match and SoS can hit whoever they want to.
