Guild Wars 2

Chopps.5047:

TheMaskedParadigm.3629:

Chopps.5047:

Of course, Guang and Brazil get all the credit for that build. If it wasn’t for Brazil and his meddling bear, I’d be kind of a big deal. Lol

You had a much longer time and a greater opportunity to do exactly what Guang and I did and you did not accomplish that.

Lol I hate making videos though :p

I did talk a lot about it but was always shouted down, made fun of, or basically ignored so I gave up. I had no street cred. You do, thank you for getting the message out.

Remember how Guang was treated at first? I was treated the same way here, on guru, and on reddit. I didn’t have the math and experience like Guang to argue my points as well as he does though.

Seriously, though, thanks for finally showing everyone that ranger is “OK”. I am grateful for that! Rock on!

why would people underestimate sword ranger
i believe each profession does relatively high melee dps and weaker range dps (well not engineer bcz they dont have melee)

colesy.8490:

ccspokai.6941:

colesy.8490:

ccspokai.6941:

colesy.8490:

Marrond.1385:

Chopps.5047:

Some small fraction of players who farmed CoF suck at dungeons. That does not mean that someone in CoF armor sucks at dungeons. To be honest, as a player who prefers ranger in dungeons, I’m more worried about elitism than anything else. Also: nothing wrong with full berserker gears.

If someone kicked your ranger from CoF farm because of your class he’s just so dumb it’s not worth thinking about it. Any class (maybe except Elementalists since they’re extra squishy) in zerker gear just tear through enemies. Not to mention full zerk ranger melts gate faster than full zerk thief (which is often taken to farm runs). Also don’t confuse elitism with blindness

Some small fraction of players who farmed CoF suck at dungeons. That does not mean that someone in CoF armor sucks at dungeons. To be honest, as a player who prefers ranger in dungeons, I’m more worried about elitism than anything else. Also: nothing wrong with full berserker gears.

Actualy huge fraction sucks. People post “only experienced”, “speed run”, “gear check”, “only ascended” and then you’re seeing them not knowing how to speed up NPC, not stacking adrenaline, mesmer doesn’t using feedback or pulls wrongly, mesmers that doesn’t use inspiration ring, warriors that don’t care to FGJ at the same time so Mesmer can multiply might stacks… and so on, and so on… this run is really easy and fast to do but so many people fail at it, it’s a pain.

People boot rangers because the population of competent, proven rangers is Brazil and … nobody else.

And for as long as 99.9% of rangers sit there shortbow spamming with bear pet, i’ll just kick them on sight. Brazil’s tests do make me want to level one up and test them out in my farming group though so I can see on my very own game whether they’re worth it or if the spot can just be filled with another war like it usually is which has the plus of having more room for error unlike the ranger with the rooting attack chain.

i will accept ranger , if they are sword spec , it deal decent amount of damage that can parred with thief

I have never met a sword spec ranger.

guild mate of mine spec a very decent sword ranger , i never ask what his traits and utility , but we take the exact same time to down slave driver with 3 warrior 1 ranger 1 mesmer , compare to our usual roaster 3 warrior 1 thief 1 mesmer.

For our runs , we usually utilized combo field before every fight (slave, efiggy, brazier)
a warrior will carry longbow and cast firefield before start , then the other warrior will cast warhorn 5 (blast finisher), summon banner(blast finisher) and thief’s cluster bomb , thus we can always get full 25stack of might before every fight. Battle standard(s) is also a good way to maintain our might stacks and fury duration.

One thing about mesmer is , we spec it with Lyssa rune, thus mesmer will cast staff’s Chaos storm , TW , gain all boon and lastly SOI for teammate.
Our warrior will take empowered traits which gives bonus damage according on how much boon you have. This will further increase our output damage and 10 seconds to down legendary efiggy is possible.

Each guild I’ve been in has just been full of shortbow spam rangers.

It’s depressing really that people would so happily play badly just because they’re lazy.

actually , i gathered elite player from several guilds and made a temporary guild to make us easier for quality farming.
shortbow can deal decent damage , but not as good as sword.

the con of sword ranger is much vulnerable to range damage since ranger is literally weaker in terms on defense , in that case i would recommend sword axe that cast defensive bubble to block range attack.
i have tried it out in PvP and it works quite well.

if someone have better skill rotation for close quarter combat please share it out, i am eagerly to learn.

shox.3971:

I know this has most likely come up before but, why does the legendary scepter look so poor compared to the others. I love being a s/d ele, but i cant push myself to make this legendary for what i am getting out of it!

All of the other legendaries give off cool flashy effects, a pattern on the floor when you walk, but the scepter just a blue little stream when the weapon moves.

Does anybody else feel this way?

my friend made moot/flameseeker/bifrost/meteorlogicus on his guardian
now we can never run dungeon with him because all his skills and appearances are too flashy and hurt our eyes

according to my past experience ,
i usually got all 77 clover within 20 tries , no sure about other
my way of doing it is craft once , then back again tomorrow
since the clover only have 30% chance to success , i prefer not to do it all at once
there is no guarantee you will get at least 30 clover out of 10 tries either.

the other believe of me is , i usually have a boon on me before i forge it

ccspokai.6941
Proffesion: War/Guard/Mes/Theif
Triated: Mostly tank healer
Experience: path 3
Other: Melee Lupi , only if everyone agree

ascended/exo zerker/ tank /healing banner warrior(depends on situation)

PTV ascend/exo Guardian with mace and shield, mostly on AOE healing

full ascended zerker mes and theif

colesy.8490:

ccspokai.6941:

colesy.8490:

Marrond.1385:

Chopps.5047:

Some small fraction of players who farmed CoF suck at dungeons. That does not mean that someone in CoF armor sucks at dungeons. To be honest, as a player who prefers ranger in dungeons, I’m more worried about elitism than anything else. Also: nothing wrong with full berserker gears.

If someone kicked your ranger from CoF farm because of your class he’s just so dumb it’s not worth thinking about it. Any class (maybe except Elementalists since they’re extra squishy) in zerker gear just tear through enemies. Not to mention full zerk ranger melts gate faster than full zerk thief (which is often taken to farm runs). Also don’t confuse elitism with blindness

Some small fraction of players who farmed CoF suck at dungeons. That does not mean that someone in CoF armor sucks at dungeons. To be honest, as a player who prefers ranger in dungeons, I’m more worried about elitism than anything else. Also: nothing wrong with full berserker gears.

Actualy huge fraction sucks. People post “only experienced”, “speed run”, “gear check”, “only ascended” and then you’re seeing them not knowing how to speed up NPC, not stacking adrenaline, mesmer doesn’t using feedback or pulls wrongly, mesmers that doesn’t use inspiration ring, warriors that don’t care to FGJ at the same time so Mesmer can multiply might stacks… and so on, and so on… this run is really easy and fast to do but so many people fail at it, it’s a pain.

People boot rangers because the population of competent, proven rangers is Brazil and … nobody else.

And for as long as 99.9% of rangers sit there shortbow spamming with bear pet, i’ll just kick them on sight. Brazil’s tests do make me want to level one up and test them out in my farming group though so I can see on my very own game whether they’re worth it or if the spot can just be filled with another war like it usually is which has the plus of having more room for error unlike the ranger with the rooting attack chain.

i will accept ranger , if they are sword spec , it deal decent amount of damage that can parred with thief

I have never met a sword spec ranger.

guild mate of mine spec a very decent sword ranger , i never ask what his traits and utility , but we take the exact same time to down slave driver with 3 warrior 1 ranger 1 mesmer , compare to our usual roaster 3 warrior 1 thief 1 mesmer.

For our runs , we usually utilized combo field before every fight (slave, efiggy, brazier)
a warrior will carry longbow and cast firefield before start , then the other warrior will cast warhorn 5 (blast finisher), summon banner(blast finisher) and thief’s cluster bomb , thus we can always get full 25stack of might before every fight. Battle standard(s) is also a good way to maintain our might stacks and fury duration.

One thing about mesmer is , we spec it with Lyssa rune, thus mesmer will cast staff’s Chaos storm , TW , gain all boon and lastly SOI for teammate.
Our warrior will take empowered traits which gives bonus damage according on how much boon you have. This will further increase our output damage and 10 seconds to down legendary efiggy is possible.

colesy.8490:

Marrond.1385:

Chopps.5047:

Some small fraction of players who farmed CoF suck at dungeons. That does not mean that someone in CoF armor sucks at dungeons. To be honest, as a player who prefers ranger in dungeons, I’m more worried about elitism than anything else. Also: nothing wrong with full berserker gears.

If someone kicked your ranger from CoF farm because of your class he’s just so dumb it’s not worth thinking about it. Any class (maybe except Elementalists since they’re extra squishy) in zerker gear just tear through enemies. Not to mention full zerk ranger melts gate faster than full zerk thief (which is often taken to farm runs). Also don’t confuse elitism with blindness

Some small fraction of players who farmed CoF suck at dungeons. That does not mean that someone in CoF armor sucks at dungeons. To be honest, as a player who prefers ranger in dungeons, I’m more worried about elitism than anything else. Also: nothing wrong with full berserker gears.

Actualy huge fraction sucks. People post “only experienced”, “speed run”, “gear check”, “only ascended” and then you’re seeing them not knowing how to speed up NPC, not stacking adrenaline, mesmer doesn’t using feedback or pulls wrongly, mesmers that doesn’t use inspiration ring, warriors that don’t care to FGJ at the same time so Mesmer can multiply might stacks… and so on, and so on… this run is really easy and fast to do but so many people fail at it, it’s a pain.

People boot rangers because the population of competent, proven rangers is Brazil and … nobody else.

And for as long as 99.9% of rangers sit there shortbow spamming with bear pet, i’ll just kick them on sight. Brazil’s tests do make me want to level one up and test them out in my farming group though so I can see on my very own game whether they’re worth it or if the spot can just be filled with another war like it usually is which has the plus of having more room for error unlike the ranger with the rooting attack chain.

i will accept ranger , if they are sword spec , it deal decent amount of damage that can parred with thief

Marrond.1385:

Player Character.9467:

Compare running across the entire zone pushing events twice to 6 minutes in CoF… hm…

I will fix that for you:
Compare running across the entire zone pushing events twice to 6 minutes in CoF with one hand on your keyboard and another on your cup while watching movie on 2nd screen.

No overexaggeration there.

let me add some : watching movie on 2nd screen during acolyte and let your mate do the job while you waiting for chest

Crossplay.2067:

Borked.6824:

ccspokai.6941:

Borked.6824:

Marrond.1385:

Spiuk.8421:

isendel.5049:

Will there be a use for these infusion?

Getting more gold.

To get more gold you need an actual enemies that drop it. And after removing guaranteed dungeon gold drop there’s not many places you can actualy use it.

Are you sure you aren’t taking the phrase “gold find” literally? All enemies have a chance to drop “gold.” Gold being the mainstream in-game currency; equaling copper, silver, and gold respectively. The concept is very simple. The more gold find you have, the more of each of these 3 you’re able to gather per drop. So gold find will have the exact same uses as it has before the patch.

please equip it and farm DE , then you will not saying the same thing again.
the only reason we buy it is for dungeon champion. and how much silver normal mob drops? 1s? congrats ! now you have 1s 20c ! wow what a efficient use !

Welcome to Guild Wars 2, where 10 times the work=1.0000000000001 times the reward.

That’s because you’re comparing a common mob to a champion. The fastest time I’ve seen a champion go down is 15 seconds. The fastest I’ve seen common mobs go down is less than a second.

You only kill 2 champions on a CoF1 speed run so magic find is what’s really earning you money. On the other hand, the shelter’s gate event spawns at least hundred. I would say at least a third of them drop money. 1.34 silver here and there add up quickly, especially if you have gold find.

I would do the math for you but, really, it doesn’t take a genius to realize that gold find is mostly wasted in dungeons. Yes, you see bigger numbers for the gold you receive in dungeons but you skip most of the common mobs while doing so which is why you’ll make less than you would at any “defend this area” dynamic event. But don’t take my word for it.

I have a guild mate that can make 3 gold from half of the meta event chains for one path leading up to Balthazar’s temple. Compare that to CoF1.

, 15s? too slow
champion efiggy 10s , that’s what we been doing.

" 3 gold from half of the meta event chains "
do you mean at best luck you can make 3g

in CoF even with maximum DR you can still get solid 50s per run ,
16s at slave driver , 10s from 2nd chest , 25s at champion efiggy
exclude loots (wondorous good, exo/rare , core/lodestone , blue/green)
not to mention most common mob in CoF doesn’t drop anything.

this is why after CS is heavily nerfed I move on to full time CoF farmer
you will never make same amount of gold in CS compare to CoF at current state( unless you got a dusk)

try again.

Broadicea.8294:

SE 1 is 10 minutes max, should be down to 7-8 once your group is organized and comfortable, SE 3 is 15 minutes max, down to 11-12.

And there is no Up/Up in TA. It’s just UP!

/twitches

haha sorry for that , i rarely do TA unless i want token from it
now the problem is , how do we minimize the travel cost(vote kiel!) , or we just park toons across the dungeon entrances , with specific gear. but that will not so possible because not everyone has spare sets for different situation

SoDeep.1739:

This is a suggestion.

Everyone know how hard it is to get the fractal weapon skin they want. I think there is a viable solution people will agree upon.
Step 1: Make a vendor that has all the skins and cost 5 or 10 fractal weapon tokens.
Step 2: The only way to get these tokens is by salvaging an unused weapon skin.

This eliminates selling and everyone knows how hard it is just to get a skin. I feel this could make both sides happy.

or… pristine relic that is almost forgotten , it can be a token for skins

MagicalSilence.1837:

As much i hate to loose cof farm i mean come on making 50g a day on fair runs ain’t bad considering Stuffs prices etc, i got 2k tokens from all dungeons they are all kitten easy to do but why bother with them if Cof is few min run and 1g per run.

But thing is that Apart from CoE and CoF no other dungeon offers you fair reward against time spent really.

After update yeah we cof farmers gonna have to run other stuff often, i just hoped rewards for Long paths would have been more better or least improved drops on chests due to Long paths like SE P2 and Arah P4 – From a View of Normal player since.

And please stop being trolls toward cof farmers there are plenty of skilled ones who knows dungeons well

from what i’ve been discussing with my fix dungeon mate , we will circling
Cof P1+P2 , Hotw P1 (bcz is just a map away) , Ac P1+P3, CoE All , TA U/U , lastly Arah P3.

this would be our first consideration of farming , further improvement need more times for figuring out.
as always : minimize time , maximize profit.

Borked.6824:

Marrond.1385:

Spiuk.8421:

isendel.5049:

Will there be a use for these infusion?

Getting more gold.

To get more gold you need an actual enemies that drop it. And after removing guaranteed dungeon gold drop there’s not many places you can actualy use it.

Are you sure you aren’t taking the phrase “gold find” literally? All enemies have a chance to drop “gold.” Gold being the mainstream in-game currency; equaling copper, silver, and gold respectively. The concept is very simple. The more gold find you have, the more of each of these 3 you’re able to gather per drop. So gold find will have the exact same uses as it has before the patch.

please equip it and farm DE , then you will not saying the same thing again.
the only reason we buy it is for dungeon champion. and how much silver normal mob drops? 1s? congrats ! now you have 1s 20c ! wow what a efficient use !

Vick.6805:

ccspokai.6941:

“oh i am casual player , i don’t care farming , SO YOU SHOULDN’T AS WELL” that’s their attitude

Uh…CoF is the casual player’s dream…absurdly easy and fast farming…

Zylonite.5913:

why is everyone against the idea/fact of farming CoF1 by other players? how does this affect you? if someone wants to run CoF p1 100 times a day then so what? It is their choice how they wanna play the game and not yours. I personally try to run CoF p1 once a day for the tokens for my future alts…but I really don’t understand all the hatred against CoF farmers…

The main problem is that even with diminishing returns, CoF hands out disproportionately large sums of gold with respect to the time put into it when compared to any other content in the game.

I’m not going to claim to be an economics expert, but all of the additional gold from CoF farming without a relatively equal sink will eventually create economy-wide inflation that hurts everyone. Casual and hardcore alike end up having gold that is worth less than when they started. That is the economic downside of such an easy farm.

The other downside for the overall playerbase is going to make me sound elitist, but I’ll say it anyway. CoF zerker farming is training people to play their characters lazily. Admittedly, there are players who can play glass cannon character builds successfully no matter what content they attempt, but there are many more who do not have that level of skill. There are far too many players who complain that other content is too difficult simply because they can’t approach it as a CoF-type zerker faceroll. I’m hoping that when people have to play other dungeons, they will also have to relearn how to play their characters intelligently.

I’m not averse to farming at all, and I’m not saying I haven’t farmed CoF at times, but CoF has been abused for far too long.

TL;DR: IMO, CoF has created inflation so that everyone’s gold is worth less, as well as a player base with expectations that all content should be a CoF-type faceroll.

No , CoF was once the same as other dungeon ,UNTIL cursed shore nerf and effigy difficulty reduction. Since then more and more people prefer CoF than D.E or other method.

nerfing reward will also cause inflation, by doing this they are reverting economy back to day 1, where supply is even lesser than before.

keep in mind that heavy loot bags farm has been nerfed on malchor’s leap as well.
and for dungeon nerfing , the first and most affected price was molten core/lodestone where you will need it for volcanus/incinerator, and this will further push up the price.

75C ….. so low
i always getting 80C and above since day 1

dani.1956:

Best post i saw was :

LFM Cof path 1 NO ZERK WARRIORS OR MESMERS !

engineers ONLY ! we doing extended run for 1 hour !
no gear requirement ! green are most welcomed !

we all know anet only care the minorities , when they don’t even want to catch up the pace

ilr.9675:

colesy.8490:

Yeah, completing it efficiently requires teamwork, any old random scrubs can walk in and actually complete the dungeon though.

…roughly 2 minutes slower than the most organized teams do…

yeah that’s a real success/failure mechanic lol, ranks right up there with foodstamps and tagging the Queensdale Troll/SB

most pugs didn’t realized how much a 2 minutes being snowballed after hours of farming
why don’t we minimize time while maximize profit when we can make it happen?

And to add on T6 price , T6 has never been cheap. never had and never will.

isendel.5049:

I’m just speculating but..

Cof nerf -> less gold for buying t6 -> lower demand -> lower prices.

If you plan to buy them and you aren’t a mindless grinder warrior who stays in cof ’till his eyes bleeds and more, this is going to help.

not for short time , those who foresee this will drain up supply by bulk order
to sell later, so the price can be remain at higher price.
this work very well on T6 , which i’ve been doing it since cursed shore nerf.

Zylonite.5913:

why is everyone against the idea/fact of farming CoF1 by other players? how does this affect you? if someone wants to run CoF p1 100 times a day then so what? It is their choice how they wanna play the game and not yours. I personally try to run CoF p1 once a day for the tokens for my future alts…but I really don’t understand all the hatred against CoF farmers…

“oh i am casual player , i don’t care farming , SO YOU SHOULDN’T AS WELL”
that’s their attitude

chance to get rare skins? meh, i prefer my legendaries
and yes skipping will be the new approach for speed farming
and my guild will still figure method to minimize time while maximize profit as usual.

farmers always control the TP economy
control or under control, your choice.

i built 3 legendaries
never buy gold using cash
never mystic forge , i bought 3 precursor
gather all the mats
gather all karma
1000 hours of it

and yea i also do sPvP and tPvP
feel free to challenge

nerf will never stop us farmer to mess up the TP
never had and never will

that makes player who still in progress to make legendary even tougher.
while i’m looking at them , waving my legendarie(s).

well goodluck for molten lodestone price

if you don’t know about TP , here’s a good website to learn to watch the trend:
http://www.gw2spidy.com/

i usually farm gold while waiting my ordered item and listing item with some sites.
and yes , consumable item has very high resell value , especially event only items.

i personally owned 3 legendaries : incinerator , dreamer and frostfang
to be honest , with maximized grind fest , it takes around 250~300 hours for each legendary (pure grind) .

the first i made was dreamer , and by that time i was completely no clue of efficient farming and it took me 700hours to finish it. Then i learn some way to decrease the farming time and made 2nd and 3rd legendary. In fact , legendary are meant for people who “dedicated” to the game, and once you make your first legendary , the following process of 2nd and 3rd will be much more easier since you always leftover material from the previous one. getting gilded infusion and always equip with omnomberry bars always help to boost your income.

my best record within 24 hours is near 100g , with 10hours farm , 4 hours nap , then continue with 10 hours. of course i have meal break within the period.

I’ve been guesting server to confirm it , and it is disappeared.

Vol.5241:

-Sell everything
-Reroll a warrior or mesmer
-Spend your money on zerk gear
-Run Cof1 with hardcores
-Get your legendary in <2 months

Back when we had the old shelt/pen farm I made enough to get a legendary in 1 1/2 to 2 months. Now with all the nerfs, cof1 is pretty much the only farm you can do to reliably earn money.

second this , made my Dreamer and Incinerator within 4 months using this way

no idea, i tried to swing my dagger and attack mobs , nothing changed

the cheap and affordable is chef(about 3-3.5g) and jeweller

at least dreamer shoots rainbow unicorn

i suggest you go through your first character to 80 first, then just start to learn crafting
because with some gold you can “craft” about 20 levels on a character later

you need at about 500 obsidian shards(1.0525m karma ) , 150+ skill points
gift from dungeon(500 dungeon token) , 1 gift of mastery(500 badges)

these are those you can’t skip in making of legendaries , even they didn’t cost single gold

just completed my incinerator few days earlier , i cant be more happy when this patch is giving it more visual update

i’ve made Dreamer and Incinerator
dreamer tooks me 600 hours because i was still new that time
and incinerator only took me 350hours++
i’ve never regret my decision , and glad new patch they updated visual effects on incinerator
now im going for frostfang and howler , they look very nice while unsheathed together

have you recently transfer large amount of gold between players? those probably made Anet suspect you are botting

Katreyn.4218:

Some of the bug fixes kind of surprised me that took so long. For example, the weird Elementalist auto attack bug on changing elements. That has been around since launch but the issue kind of disappeared for me and I haven’t really had any noticable issues with it since.

Overall it seems pretty good, classes seem to remain in tact. And with that some interesting additions to Living Storyline as well as existing content (WvW) and the leaderboards next week.

I kind of hope the Living Story dungeons are solo-able for story times sake (I’m thinking more personal storyish as opposed to the story mode dungeons, but now that I think about it it probably would be more story mode dungeon with nice artwork cutscenes I hope).

it just stated weapons, but not armor , so i think it is still possible , or else what we can do of the excessive tokens?

also , quickness boost has been reduced from 100% increase speed to 50%
this gonna affect some of the gameplay , especially final boss fight at citadel of flame

did u guys notice that right after the puzzle u can jump above the wrecked ship
and cross to the opposite hill? there is a small chest on the top of the hill !!
and also a champ spawn right after i claim the chest