Guild Wars 2

Back up the list. Not going to go silently into the night.

Really hoping this is more than just rumors. Giving us our 3 secs back would be a great start.

Second that, brilliant post Lily and some great, valid points made throughout. Good to see Anet put some effort into scourge its great. No doubt itll be toned down but maybe or hopefully some of the dmg pulled away could be placed on our power builds. Please dont’t forget past elites and prove that you really support build diversity.

Kaladel.1670:

Necros are usually bad, so when they are middleground people cry that they are OP… That’s one of the reasons we can’t have nice things.

.Bingo.

Nerf our only avenue of def/off – shroud… tch tch. We go backwards before going forwards… its like the mj moonwalk backwards over a cliff but then miss timing spectral walk

Not lettin this thread slip down the list

Yep theres a vid online and i remember hitting the 1 in vb via a bit of a glide

the only times Power reaper feels usefull in Spvp when your with your team and the enemy blown majority of their stuff in the fight THEN you can go on the point and release hell.

Thats it mate thats my set of tactics right there. I come in all chest puffed out when everyones half health and depleted… feelsgood

^ yes please Anet

Zoltreez.6435:

Sephylon.4938:

1st and foremost, and this is the most important part of this, stick to your team. Necros need an effective babysitter to perform effectively.

2nd, try using flesh wurm, and spectral walk, those should give you some outs.

3rd, accept that you are the most dangerous person on the field due to your boon hate, and at the same time the weakest, due to your lack of personal suitability, and as such, will always be 1st target. You need a good team to support you to survive.

in other words….

your useless alone as a class…
you will see the respawn room more times then dead enemies…
you need to be hard carried by others to be competitive….

Welcome back to the Necro………..

This post made my day.

In rebuttle we also need a “Happy as Larry” thread.

SoS back to 7secs option. VP back to what it was. Thats a huge ask but Ive got used to this playstyle and if i want a change ill hit scourge.

Vp nerf plus this was too much. Hit the rewind pls

I dont think anyone wants everything just maybe even some semblance of what we had. Call me crazy but i was content. I applaud you and your build or can do nature to be cool with our current state. What is it you think we offer or do better when compared to other classes/builds

..‘closer..singular. That’s right, better be mindful of using that 1.

I’m with you……But are they????

KidRoleplay.3615:

The traits’ve been fine for four years. If a new mechanic isn’t going to be using what’s offered in the trait, considering it’s for necromancer core, that trait should be updated to include additional features instead of removing things from it to dampen build diversity. There are many traits even still across all professions that are very specific. I guess in their arguments, a specialization is a bigger deal than the general, bigger depiction of the profession’s main mechanic?

^THIS!

Return us to what we were. Dont even bother changing a thing. 7secs sos, vp as it was, dont touch anything after that, i dnt care if we’re still middling dps or worse. Leave Reaper alone and move onto fiddling with scourge.

Tobias.8632:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/6sixjn/to_the_devs_can_we_please_have_a_conversation/

A particular highlight of that post

1: How Much Damage does the Necromancer Actually Do?
I will preface this by noting once again that this entire discussion is predicated on Deathly Chill being nerfed into the ground to make way for a new Necromancer Condi Spec. Given this, I will be mainly examining the damage output of Power Reaper. Now, the most recent benchmarks I could find with corroborating evidence that actually list Power Reaper set the build’s DPS with realistic buffs at 23,385. We should all agree that this is low, but there is a question of how low it is. Once that is figured out, we can be more equipped to arrive at workable balance changes. So some context. Examining qT’s benchmarks prior to today’s patch:
As it stands, Power Reaper is not listed on these benchmarks, due to its DPS being lower than that of all meta DPS specs of all other classes, including for example Jalis Revenant, Hammer Guardian, and of all things Condi Mesmer. It is 0.5% higher than Power Phalanx Strength Berserker. The only meta builds with lower DPS are Power PS Zerker and pure support Chronomancer.

If you were to increase the damage of all necromancer skills by 50%, Power Reaper DPS against large hitboxes would be less than all meta Tempest builds and comparable to Dragonhunter. Against small hitboxes, Power Reaper would be only the third highest DPS, following Condi Daredevil and Condi Engineer. So an across-the-board 50% damage buff to all necromancer skills would not make power reaper the highest DPS class in any context

If you were to increase the damage of all necromancer skills by 33%, Power Reaper DPS would be lower than all of the following classes: Condi Daredevil, Power Daredevil, Condi Engineer, Condi Tempest, Condi Ranger, and Condi Berserker. DPS would also be in-line with Power Engineer.

If you were to increase the damage of all necromancer skills by 25%, Power Reaper DPS would be under 30k, less than all of the above in addition to: All meta Tempest builds, Condi Revenant, Power Engineer, D/D Thief, and Sc/T/GS Dragonhunter, narrowly edging out Condi PS Zerker.

Any heros going to refute this and give us the stop crying line. And to those who think their spvp hasnt changed you are truely blessed

nekretaal.6485:

You are misremembering history. Necromancer was awful at release because of interest in the class at beta. It took more than two years to get out of the garbage can.

Then one week Dhuumfire came along and a lot of people flocked to the class for the new style. It still wasn’t OP even then.

But it was nerfed back into the garbage can.

Then people were really interested in well designed Reaper skills during the HOT beta, and the class got nerfed hard again at release.

This time, I don’t think people are interested in a turret spec with extra F keys to press (more than elementalist) and boring non greatsword weapons with long cool downs and “1-spam”.

So, the class will not get nerfed due to beta excitement. Instead, the Scourge will get nerfed because somebody will play with both minions and the turrets and pvpers, who hate both on a conceptual level, will loudly demand nerfs (not to fix stuff that’s broken, but to take unwanted fight play styles out the game).

So something new will happen September 22.

Spot on. Its only fair for scourge to get the same treatment. After all then itll be balanced like nec reap and create…diversity.

I had the same experience but only in lions arch and while at the forge basically same performance as prior to patch i dnt see any issues

Now we’ve had some time..we can see reaper is yesterdays news and its time for scourge. Tunneling us all to condi specs complete 29.99 thanks

Zoltreez.6435:

Elessaria.9142:

Necros are the whine meta class. Anyone viewing the patch as a whole as anything other than a buff to the class shouldn’t be playing power reaper. This patch makes power reaper dps competitive in raids overnight, opens up new builds with some great synergy for open world and instanced pve,

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Ziggityzog.7389:

Mmmm too much qqing going on. Power necro for about a year n a half now. I’ve never had a issue with power necro and getting to gold t3 or plat each season without really trying since i hate conquest and how it’s boring. If i tried and did the required games, I would have gotten top 250 ez. Last 5 patches now have either boosted a bit or done nothing to my build.

Always remember like in gw1 unique builds win the game if you know how to use them right. No one expects builds that aren’t “meta” so they are caught off guard a bit. Yes Copy Paste “meta” builds seem fun till people know the easy counters or anet buffs them down for being over used. Then your stuck in the wind. I’ve head nothing but necros hating the patch but i laugh because it improved my build a tad and gave me more power build options to try. It just screwed the condi necros a bit lol. Just wish they buffed me a bit more

Power Reap 4 life.

Nice to see a player positive about the changes. I’m a completely non meta power reaper build and this has gutted my survivability. Let us know how your newly buffed build treats you.

Yeah this has hit alot of us hard. I myself came came from a break of mmos gw2 being tht one till i tried reaper. Man was i elated tht we had a somewhat quick moving, power spec, been here since. Now with this..its taken the wind outta my sails. I was looking forward to getting into the new expac with a build tht ive held since forever. Really amazed at how they came to this. I agree with lord they (devs) really are just that BAD.

Agreed. But screw condi i started with that and like many decided its a slowgoing playstyle. Screw Scourge. Screw it all i tell ya

Im no pvp superstar but when being focussed i rely on ds to soak up spike so my cds reset on whatever and getting into ds with its 10 sec cd will be interesting. Im keen to see builds posted that wrk, power tht is with the same effectiveness as what we were at. Show us.

Ive made an almost identical thread to this and had it removed. They want our cash… our hot sweaty cash

Serenity.6135:

Its not about camping, its about proper rotations. The nerf on vital persistence ruined the synergy with a lot of traits therefore delivering a big hit on a lot of builds. VP is also necessary to keep up with the current meta.

+1

Myself and other powerreapers aren’t so much against scourge, just what it brings, an obtuse nerf.

My thread Titled: Vital Persist nerf = buy Expac, was wiped from the omniverse. Keep up the banter guys maybe someone will do something about this disgusting downdate. Like apologize and change a minor trait or somethin.

I reckon they have trainees come in and they get the necro patch booth and go to town. Coz if its the same base team ill give ‘em this they’re consistently crackers

Read it now! Focus necro

We Reapers will be tuned into the true nec power spec"…by reducing the time we are in dps state……….Bahaha DERRRRRRP.

Flumek.9043:

1) Trashsword becoming at least Mehsword

Its a concept weapon with 2-Autoatacks.
The problem is that even the “almighty hurrr durr big hit mommy get camera” is actually equal dps to thief autoatack.

That is with all its pre-required conditions and fail options. The necro and thief dagger used to be equal but they speed up one cz a 3rd class was broken and did 0 for our dagger

Also the trait effect on both shouts and GS trait is garbage. I wrote once that GS-2 should have superspeed + evade frames …. AND IT WOULD STILL be about equal iin counterplay mindgames to rest of game

2) Adding functionality to above trait, currently there is none

3) Improving GM trait ReaperOnslaught
-the 5s CD reduction SHOULD POP MID CHANNEL , CRUCIAL FOR PERMA SPINING ON TRAHS MOBS
-preferably improved it , like if last hit of RS-2 HITS you get the 5s (fun in PVE, decent in PVP)

4) INSTANT UNBLOCK SHOUT FOR MINDGAMES like warri signet

5) Better DPS and a debuff for PVE

100% Agree mate, some1 at Central READ this!
Please for the love of biscuits READ this.
Make us a truely viable POWER spec.

-PLEASE-

I didnt realise i was hurting the game until I came here. If in fact i did this, i apologize for Ill continue with further hurtful actions until my thumb falls off.

Anyone else wish you could choose a differing pupil type. Eg if you like a specific face type you’re pretty much pigeonholed to use a particular pupil .. eg cat eye/the white dot etc..Just throwin it out there.

Nphect
Always consider textured armour detail > obvious effects.
.Looks are everything.

Nphect

Perfection. Fully specced BG conditionmancer.

Nphect

Perfection. Fully specced conditionmancer. Choice of attire = no clipping issues + BS expensive dyes to get the texture necros need in their aged cloth. Cheers for looking.

I went for the horns, scalings out of whack. looks great on a super closeup.. space them out seeing as we’ve a decent size head and a little bigger in general thanks. Standing next to a similarly horned human = lols.
+1 Pls do something

Heaps of great points made. I just insta – froth and laugh maniacally now when checking what the bat comes out to hit and what other classes get to have at lesser trait levels in comparison to us. Any Dev out there play a Necro.. does anyone know? Coz I’d love their take on this.

Same deal as many here. High end gaming lappy not overheating, fresh install, no issues on anything outside of gw2. Comp freeze, only way to get back is to reboot.

+1. Waste of time issue.

All here require some form of an answer. If its not going to happen, tell us so. We won’t bother feeding this thread. To make it less painful I’ll do this.

Type “1” – We will seek to rectify this issue in the future
or
Type “2” – We are happy with the current state of this.

Thank you

Asura
Male
Necro

Issue: Winged Headpiece changes eye colour dramatically.

Any update on this issue? A definitive answer would be great. Josh or someone with an inside line at least give us this eg. – " Hai guys, sry for the delay, but NO, none of you will get what you want, everything will remain as it is, KthnxBai. See, now that way we can all just use the skin or whatever it is we choose and leave this thread with a sense of completion.

Fused sceptre waitin to be sold, now i stare at it blankly in disgust. Pls find a way to get this sorted…

Great work, I and the rest of the Necro community applaud your efforts.. roll on the wvw build !

8/10
Im over the stereotyped necro looks so i rate yours, slick and understated.
I’ve mixed and matched to get a combo that allows the asuran necro to not look like a bobble head, and also show the armour detail which we very much lack. Just my opinion.
Cheers for the gander

Nphect