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why are people mean to thieves

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Because we steal…

DD SB Thief sPvP/WvW

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Sadly its true ,but its still fun in unranked .

This is my version of it :
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vZAQNAoYVl0MhSnY5Tw3Jw/ELIFFXDEALwc7X/7v3LEEbAA-TZRBABN/AAA4IAYfZANOFA+v/AA

this should work with staff and zerk amulet also
,since evade is only defense then i went with viper amulet for max dmg.
Get in do pole dance ,stealth, get out ,regen ini – health,some cluster bombs ,poison field, pole dance again…
Uncatchable works realy nice with BD or LT( i choose BD just for tempest fights)

Utilities strictly for def purposess

Do not get over confident it is very important to refresh fight every few rotations and 1v1 you have good chance to win.
In team fights just do not try to stomp,lol

Do not ever fight scrapers it is imposible to win vs hammer,honestly engi is worst nightmare for thief right now:(
Tempast is fairly ok if you mangae to avoid shocking aura

Others classes are quite managble , and frankly its just luck since there is so much insta cc.

No stability, no protection , and no resistance >no pasaran

Also playing this i couldnt escape from the temptation to compare

cluster bomb vs coalescens of ruin ,its way less dmg on shorter range

Best Elite Specialization Idea Ever

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I have a feeling they are closing the shop and will announce server closing shortly and wanish…

HoT scam was last job they pulled off now they stealth and dissapear

Shorten match time?

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No1 thinks this is good or bad idea?
Impact on strategy would be huge and que times greatly reduced ?

No comments:(

Shorten match time?

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I was thinking that shortening match timer from 15 min to 8min and lowering required points from 500 to 350 would
- give us much faster games ,
-partly will force bunkers teams to go for some dps -decap classes
-and i think this would also reduce que times…

Any toughts on this?
P.S
Imho unraked should merge with hot join,bring back sque and tque

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Road to Legendary.. Here's how I did it

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Gratz on reaching legendary so fast , i wouldnt expect it form a squer to achive that so fast but then you did play some bove average time a day…

As for tips its sad that everything was said many many times before but very few players ever come to forums before they get pwned or for some other problem they have.

This should be merged with some other posts and stickied to " new 2 pvp start here"

Bring Back Pistol/Pistol Thief

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If you remember it was like that on p/d #3 then they nerfed it so that you must hit before porting:(
Mini sb#5 on pistol 2 would be so awesome

Mallyx is God

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What is making condi rev good in esl is not malyx but
-on demand dissengage(shiro)
-gap closer on demand(shiro)
-5 sec aoe stun(shiro)
-on demand quickness(shiro)
- heal on res if attacked(herald)
-stability on dodge(retribution)
- dmg reduction(retribution) i consider retribution to be dwarf trait line…
-boons (herald)
and lastly resitance (but that works only if 2x rev) and boon strip from malyx

What is making malyx strong are traits from other legends mostly and shield that comes from herald.
Try runing malyx with out only herald line and you will cut ussefullnes to half….

Why do people say score doesn't matter?

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They say it doesn’t matter because they think it doesn’t it matter. Whatever stance you take on score, whether it’s closer to one extreme (“Best score = best player always!”) or the other (“Score means absolutely nothing ever!”), there are going to be plenty of exceptions to that rule. In my opinion, it’s more beneficial to look at GW2’s relationship between score and skill (and lack thereof) as an opportunity to learn more about the use and misuse of statistics than to attempt to determine a concrete answer on how important or unimportant score currently is in this game.

In my opinion its no different then any team sport. GW2 is no exception. nerds just can’t understand that.

Let me make this easier for you. Look at shutdown corners in football like Darrell Revis or Richard Sherman. Many games, their stats are crap. Why? Because the opposing quarterback completely avoids throwing in their direction.

ok so I guess you agree now that gw2 isn’t any diff from any other team sport? But one difference is, in professional athletic sports, noone goes around saying personal score doesn’t mean anything because of the other factors that go into a team win. That would be silly.

Omg you obviously fail to see how scoring in this game works,more imortantly you fail to listen what ppl are trying to say .
If you are trolling ,gg if you are not i wouldnt wish to have you in my team ever.

As for basketball comparsion
imagine that every time you pass ball you get score and every time you cross 3p line you get score or if you touch a player you get points.

You can collect most points by just runing around touching ppl and crossing the line while you done 0 for the team ..

The ONLY time when personal score matter

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It was not so uncommon to win 4v5 a year ago ,especialy at legacy , temple and khylo.
Legacy for obvious lord strategy, and temple offered, beside buffs, posibilty to box teams at base same as khylo…
GG i havent seen this for a very long time…

Snow ball?

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Oh no, you cant team up ? So no “pro” teams ? No riged mmr tanking no afkers or if they do who cares?
My game mode this winter for sure
I feel like iv been given big big orange an juicy carrot and am blinldy following and will probably forget league failiure by next year,i just can not decide if im bunny or donkey …

Bring Back Pistol/Pistol Thief

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P/P need ground targetable shadowstep on #2 so that you can reposition and thus decieve opeonents.

I would also add reflect to unload or some uber buff like stab- aegis or something +swiftness

stealth #1 is to much like unload it should grant quickness and relocate you from your target since you want to have distance after steal…

Following this i would change p/d #3 to rooth with all the conidies with out shadow step working at range of 600-900.
Oh yeah i would love this mainhand pistole…

Snow ball?

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Is it acctive again ?
Its much more fun than spvp:(
Any 1 wants to team up and snowball to hell of pve players ?

As an ele main; Diamond Skin OP

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Quality gameplay from a quality game…

Same build vs same build tends to lead to a draw

Slightly different tepmest can beat meta tempest …

We're top tier...

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Im sorry comparing skills with other profesions is not a valid argument and has never been,this is engineer you are taliking about and they should be able to jump as they please .
For a year, two or how ever is neceserry.This was a design concept.

Vault is obviously a bug and should be “fixed” ASP

couh cough “withdraw” fix

bug list- official release notes

unexpected behaviour (bug)- working as intended

The truth about divisons

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I disasgree that ruby is some border line where thing are measured by acctual skill.

Given time every 1 will reach ruby and I mean every1 .

So at the end you will have same low -high mmr players in same league and same MMr win-lose strings(these strings hapen and are reallity that some tend to ignore some not)

Then is just luck in how many pips you wil attain will there be some afk,or you will be matched vs guild team or not.

Essentialy ruby is/will represent spvp before league implementation with addition of few not so god or rather PvE guilds that will creat impression of unbalanced matchmaking.
So old story again.
If you play casualy you will see this happening right now.

I hardly ever get to play vs premades ,but all those ppl i passed are catching up with me by grind only ,while also due to slower grind im geting to this magic ruby border where im catching all those that reached it before me and are now stuck there…

Tanking MMr is not my choice since it will ruin my goal of having 50% win rate on all classes(ironic isnt it)

Joining a guild is also a double edge since losingas agroup results in losing more pips and somehow you dont alweys get to have a team of ppl who understand each other well.
So i rather solo.

So your first point is invalid- every1 will reach ruby you just need enough 5win strings to get there…
In a real world you will never see “league of high school team and pro team”
cause they are divided by leagues in the begining.
What we will have in ruby is same old mmr all over again since ppl that were beter than me should have started above me or worse belowe me.
And progres in different way.
Folowing enforced 50% win logic in ruby you will again meet all those players out of your rank ,be it lower or higher.
(this also nullifies any meaningfull league divisions since range min-max of mmr in ruby will be HUGE)
This could be interpreted as you say “hit the skill cap”
But im prety sure that 90% of all soloQ player will end in this zone strugling with old Mmr, system while im also convinced that about 30% of this 90% populatin “desrves” to advance but will be unable to….

Conclusion for me leagues change a single thing and that is given enough time i wont have to deal with pro teams since im not delusional anough to think i will reach legendary…
Very bad design and twisted system of values(rewards and punishment) imho…

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Just reminded that this will also lead to inexplainable 2x or 3x pips los -win since chances to win will be calculated by your MMr score while you are in same division

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As an ele main; Diamond Skin OP

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One simple solution would be to make any cc a CC,not a condi cc but just a cc
Then you can by pass his DS
Or simple make a Ds give resistance with auras ,or work while in earth only…

Why do people say score doesn't matter?

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SCORE DOES MATTER

If the rest of the team has 100+ and you have 30, and it was a close game.

Definitely you are dead weight

Well typing everything with uppercase letters help almost as much as score does to a game.

So you are calling me dead weight when I defend home point from being captured through a whole match? Now usually I do get scores sometimes, I do this as there are players trying to take home point and I kill them but most of the time I get to fight Eles or other tanky builds and the fight can go on for almost the whole match if I don’t get help. But I know for sure that as long as I keep the cap point in my teams colour I am contributing to the team with or without any personal score. On the other hand for a tanky build trying to take the cap from an enemy player and who never succeeds to cap the point, well that player is a dead weight.

Please read first.

It would NOT be a close match if you bunked or defended the whole game.

But it would,if for example you have identical situation on far and mid is undecided

You can have almost a tie with 2 players contributing most are side bunkers ,while game is lost in mid fight.
Just watch recent esl and you will see its all about bunkering ,lol

2-4 mesmers got replaced by ele's

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Ppl like to play safe,that is why you see so many bunker builds and game mode requires bunker for win,it is also safer if playing pug games to play bunker
Pro teams contribute to this notion by also playing safe ,they play for big money prises so no wonder.
There are counters but no one is willing to take risk (shater mesmers counters bunker mes realy well and will win in reasonable time ,just an example)
Top take this risk you have to have cooridnated team,but then why would you when its safer …

Ele was op for long time but no1 ever mentioned DS since very few used it,problem is perma protection with -40% dmg reductionin range of 360 its -10% more

Anet keeps ignoring all logic and suggestions from players for a few more $$ and keeps creating unbalanced and flawor of the day builds.

Just go back and read some post in suggestion area and you will see how they can pervert good ideas .

Thief Rifle Discussion Thread

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Give thiefs a sling 1200 range

- #2 whirl /reflects
– #3 aoe daze
– #4 aoe stealth
– #5 block heal

-Axe
– #2 axe spin with gap close for massive aoe dmg
– #3 block with stability and reposte

Granades 1200 range

- #2 slow /quckness
– #3resisatnce/ knock back
– #4 Aoe fire field /might
– #5 evade /smoke field/protection

Christmass time i can make my wishes for that juicy staff every1 have…

As an ele main; Diamond Skin OP

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Pow is not always an answer, you need boon striping.
With perma prot -40% dmg marauder can do ridiulosly low dmg on some tempest builds 1v1 ,tough nut to break.

Ds was here for a long time and was not that much of problem
With auras it is…

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How to overcome the current meta

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This may sound drastic but is acctualy what is needed.
-remove all on crit,on hit,weapon swap sigils form spvp
-remove runes with on hit or % proc
-remove traits with same effects
-reworks trait lines so that they give only one attribute and specialize them for weapons and utilities
In other words give us control in what our toons can or can not do
wheter you def or att or buff or heal…
Well,sounds like a new game,maybe its time for new game…
BS only 1month to go

P.S.
Thief and warrior are closses to this model in traits so they …… deep in meta

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Why is withdraw still missing 10%

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still reVenant.

just a slight correction

Mesmer is invulnerable but can hold a point ?

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Any nerf should be done only to a chrono trait line-wells or alactricity and only sparingly so.
Other traits or wepons or effects were fine before, and some to a point of being usselss or hardly ever used( BD chaos trait)
WoP should be nerfed to decap ,and alactricity cut by 25%(or made a boon, but not bouth) and mesmer is fine

Are Scrappers Underrated?

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They do quite well against chronobunker.

I think a 2 rev, scrapper, chronobunker and tempest/druid or reaper would do well against the 2rev, 2chrono tempest/druid comp. Reapers could also destroy rev once theyre in shiro

Reapers destroy rev once they are in Malyx,i can strip 12-13 boons in very short time,very short.
You wait for rev to get all that condi and resistance thinking he is safe and than you strtip him naked,if you can get good and squize in epidemic you wipe whole node prety fast,with condies revenat hoarded on him self .
You cant pull this alone tho,you need tempest or chrono to guard you(stability shock /magnetic aura and quckness serve best) .
Well placed wells necro /chrono 0F,can do this alone so you dont even have to build for it,just minor adjustment
I seriously dont understand why all this rev hype.

Imho its all big marketing plan on promoting HoT by ESL teams..

League PvP made me hate PvP

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“Keep in mind, I’m not asking for a path that would be easier for me than the current PvP path is to serious PvPers, I’m just asking for a path that would be of equivalent difficulty to non-PvPers as the existing PvP path is for PvPers.”

When they make it that you earn as much gold and mats as PvE player.

I played only PvP for last 3 years and im poor as mice and you complain about equality?

s/d thief till legend!

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Gratz man, gratz…

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Hi ,played some more last night this time pow based,still can do fairly well 1v1,with s/d very good odds vs rev.

And vaulting + bound is huge,but very moment you stop evading you die.
In few team fight if i stop to res or stomp i just die.
(stealth doesnt help because of aoe adn random cc,and anything withcast time longer than 1/2s is death)
I feel like i need one more utility slot,or 3th weapon swap.

As long as you dance you survive ,lol

Every class has options to do multiple roles,with no draw backs,with aboundance of buffs .
Im not for a game wher everyone is boxed in what you can do.

Option to play bunker or broswer or dps should be available for every proffesion.
Problem is that somehow this works ony for thiefs and warriors,significance of roles for other proffsion is mostly lost…

Every1 else(1 or 2 exceptions) has everything in one build and this is not correct.

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PvP I enjoyed

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It says its Riderz online,to me it reminds me of Arch age

Why do Heralds take Shiro?

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Im still of opinion that,malyx is no good and has obvious weaknes that can be used against them.
Why ESL teams didnt counter this still is beyond me.
Maybe they have special incentive for runing 2x rev as to sell more HoT?

Im prety sure this is not best comp and they are saving reall one for later, more important matches.

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rev/mes

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Oh yeha if i can pick any weapon from any class that hammer insanly awesome and would use it for any proffesion.
Pure awesomness that hammer

Back to mesmer isue
i dont undertsand stacking mesmers in teams

Chrono-tempest -scraper is ideal combo ,rev only good if it comes in pairs

Sad thief

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I’ve been having success with:

Valkyrie

Acrobatics/Trickery/Daredevil

Bound dodge/Staff master / Physical reduction

Pain Response / Hard to catch / Dont stop

Thrill of the crime/ (Bountiful Theft or Trickster)/ Sleight of hand

Sword / Pistol + Staff, (Both sets running Sigil of Intelligence, Sigil of Fire)

And rune of the daredevil.

All damage is sword auto, Stealing mid-bound to land bound damage, and staff 5.

Roll for ini, Shadowstep and Agility sigil for utilities, Basi for Elite.

Staffs hit heavy, common dps condis get cleared by trait and sword #2, and stealth is on demand with pistol offhand.

Plus you end up with stacking swiftness the longer you fight, so its easy to run away if you have shadowstep up.

Ironically it’s bad against dagger mainhand thieves because blind spam whiffs your burst by 50%, so working on that.

It lets me beat the hell out of revenants and condi engies though.

I tried almost exactly same thing but with s/d ,and asssin reward and quick pockets for non stop bouncing boon striping,heals.
That small frame in LS and landing after Vault gets me killed every time in team fights.

I was very hyped about this build ,this was first thing that came to my mind after i saw dardevil traits and tought that I will have a chance to play somthing that scraper is right now.
lack of some of the things i listed in my op proved me wrong(mainly buffs ,tho some utilities could do better)

Could be i just lack mechanical skills+ reaction time or better internet connection for this to work properly

Strange tho that on other proffesions i do not lack that much….

Hardest class to play these days thief…

Showerthought: full Thief sPVP team?

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Oh , man look at number of games that man played as thief and tell me how many other players can come close to his, or Sizers skill and knowledge of that class??

There was a time when s/d -SB thief was considered most op thing in this game,
why do you think no1 even tried to do that at that time?

rev/mes

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Why is there no skill in playing bunker mes?
I must say first im not best mechanicly and im not counting my self very good player ,just good.
We had match with mirror teams (my mes is bit different than classic bunker mes but its not the point)
So 2xmes ,rev scraper and reaper in each team .
I died once had most resurections,condi clear and some other top stat i dont even remember ,since its not so important.
Any group fight on my node we won,at the end of the match enemy team mesmers pm me that im good .
This is happening in spphire league so im not top notch and my oponents are not.

But why is that in esl matches mirror tems get trashed by same comp?
There is still skill needed(or expiriance with class) and you cant exactly have same rotation for ever.
Admitedly less skill than it was before .

Playing tempest aura requires much less concentration and team /enemy averness than bunk mes.

I still think that some pro teams are holding back true team comps for finals

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Only seen 4 classes the last 7 games......

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Well before you had 3x ele so nothing new…

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So your crusade for justifying rifle thief continues.

The first point is still a real problem, no matter how hard you try to downplay it.

No i dont think so

Engi in particular can nuke you from range and have godly stealth and reveal.
Ranger ,and Dh with traps same thing alot of stealth.
Mes was there long time ago and will be

Do tey have less mobility ?Well just a lil bit…

Besides ther is so much reflect around it wont do much good to a thief having more range.
It would be nice for change and diversity

My Opinion After Today's Pro League

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Blame Aoe
Any kind of aoe has no skill in it its a random hit,so they gave us aoe defensses aka wells.

Ther was not so much cleave also
Long time ago you had to think about fields and how best to use them and make team comp revolving around Roles.
Now there is no roles since every 1 can sustain ,dps u name it.

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So u plan to have 5 men zerg bouncing around spaming #5?
Why do you think they even need to engage you with full team to whipe you all?
One mes with portal and your strategy is done…
One aoe stun ,be it rev or engi you are all down in few sec
One schocking aura and you can bounce no more….
And then they punish
You can run to other point but doubt you will do much better,theif has dmg and mobility .
They everything else + what you have…

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note for OP – thief also has no reliable knockback. only class without one.

Thank you

This was the point of my post.

every other class has multiple tools available for diffrent situations in a match,and can do multiroles and deal with prety much anything you throw at them .
Some do this with ease some strugle but still can do.

Any group fight with thief in it is doomed to fail,evasion stops at some point.
If some1 remember lowel (he was posting at gw2guru more than here and had most extensive thief guid ever done)

There was this 2xd/d build with swap weapon ini and stuff,i made somthing similar to it with LOT of eva and good condi dmg
I could kill that DH on point prety easily some other classes not prepared for condi thief.

Any group fight some stray aoe ,cc wil catch you and there is so much more condi cleanse in group fights that i become usseless.

I see that there is a staff build like that and im happy it works for some ,but truth is it is very limited.

Caed says that thief is only class that is Ok and others are just pow creep.
In a way he is right,but that doesnt change fact that you are more liability than ok.

Also i can not find any other class with so much buffs taken from them
Most of them lack 1 or 2

So so many things that were nerfed to the ground on theif are given freelly and in abundance to other classes.
Because, if thief have boons with stealth and condi cleans that doesnt fail if you are revealed ,its called OP .
If others have evasion frames super high dmh with boons strping its ok.

Maybe theif is only class properly developed and specializes in a role assigned by developers,maybe others need to be tooned down ,but we are still playing same game .

Almost all utilities before HOT need to be remade ,thie is true for other classes as well

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Leagues were suppose to be for Guild Teams

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You will be assimilated))

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I dont think i have high MMr my self ,and i still enjoy thief but not in ranked.
Ppl simply dont want you in their team and with reason.

Im currently in sapphire and honestly i cant fight ppl there with thief,maybe thats my skill cap forthis class
With other proffesions i can ,not exactly easyly but with much less effort,i have tools given by devs to face most situations on them…

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When you have 15k games with thief compared to my 1.5k games you must know class beter than i do and be better than i am.
Im not exactly want to roll over ppl ,but when you take in cosideration that every other class was given easy access to stuff i pointed in my post ,you must say that something is wrong here.

Our main proffesion mechanic -stealth+anti stealth is given to other proffesions ,and other means of negating dmg and buffs thet thief has no axccess to.

I think i forgot resistance in my list,with access to resistance that absolution trait might have some sense but it doesnt…

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Oh dont get me wrong ,i tried caeds build and it was good till some point.
I even had some success with it ,but in any organized fight its just not enough.

Before i could at least res ppl,finsih donw players and had som means of escape now …
Sinc i play all classes i can tell difference ,and belive me thief is not ok.

when you swap to thief after ,memser (even GS/s.t pow) ,engi ,necro ,ranger, you need to up your concentration 10x just to stay alive ,it is very very demanding on sped reaction and map over view and concentration in all.
No room for mistakes,in anything beyond 2v2 you are liabilty to your team…

55HP vs TCG - Good ol' Meta

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Yep i like it more 2.
Can you imagine some1 runing save yourselfs now?
Its kamikadze skill, insta suicide.
They mad so many utilies obsolate with HoT

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Suprisingly only guard,rev and wr have as selfish heals as theif has but they have more sustain trough other means and team utilities.
Im kind of stuck on withdraw since it gets me out of that stupid aoe or condi fields flying all around.
But yes you are right heals are not as bad as I made it seam.

Recent NA ESL Made me <3 Abjured More

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Dont know wht comp you used but if it had theif in it my respect.

On the other hand exploiting leagues ,even if its not strictly in rules forbiden to do,
need you to run WR,Thief, and pre hot classes -to wash that stain of shame on your team…
P.S.
I’m not for punishing ppl for exploiting leagues,but you guyz are PRO and a winers of last ESL resorting to such tactics is just….

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So i have been trying unsuccesfuly to find thief build that could work in this meta.
To much reveal ,to much aoe to much dmg for a builds that should have mediocore dmg.

This is a class with least and lowest aplication of

-Quicknes,Stability,Protection,Resistance?,Aegis

-worst condi cleans of em all (absolution just somehow dont work for me)

-least blocks and inv(lol) time

Lov hp + low armor
Mobility that is not important since you can just run around and do nothing.

Worst heals in game,
-worst traps,
-worst signets
-deception that became ussles with so much revealed(now every class can stealth and reveal but thief cant reveal kitten except him self)

-Venoms that have insane cd while other proffesions sprout conditions just by passing by.

Even in soft cc we fall behinde almost every 1 since every other class can AOE daze on much longer duration than thief.

Single target Dmg that is sub par to ALL classes and with very high risk ,while other proffesions can walk in park and kill you by kittening aoe around:(

Before HOT i had at least that stealth res, +1 game play to look forward to ,now this is just obsolate . It was hard class to play but it made it even more rewarding for earned win.

What we have now is endles evade,that you can dance around you enemy and wait for a moment till that random aoe cc will catch that (ppl are not so stuipd to throw skills while you are dancing around them)

Im just raging a bit ,just feel completly lost now, as a thief nothing works:(

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no retaliation
edit:2
i just rememberd time when Flank /Lasc strike was guted to hell for boon striping
revenat has that same thing if not better

So boon striping if not lowest but still usseless

Agin im sorry for all this rant, i went trough all classes since HoT release and thief is by far most underwhelming of them all .
For most of other i can find place in team ( i swap accoridng to whati think is needed imho to complement team) theif doesnt complement anything

Another P.S.
im just sitting bored and rewinding last weeks of gw2 spvp trough my head and this is most distingushed impression of them all.

edit 3:
removed reflect remark…
totaly forgot about D storm,and honestly neglected staff as weapon (i was trying so hard to push sword/somthing to work but its either beyond my skill or it realy is usseles.)

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Pro League: A preventable disaster approaches

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deda.8302

Half of these memser(almost all )were there before and were not op in slightest so you cant blame these traits for bunkines or distrotion or blured frenzy .

Resistance on BI?

What is giving all that survivability is chronophantasma clone generation (again chrono )and F5+ wells.
Dont touch skills and trait that have been there for ages and almost NO1 used them.

You are seriuosly compalyning about skill that is on 45sec icd?

So average player vs average player,i beat that viper rev.

Does that mean when you lift skill lvl a few grades that suddenly rev becomes invincible, or that higher skill lvl you dont know when to stop attacking and just stomp?

I brefly saw one match yesterday it was mirror team comp with 2 rev ,yet one was demolishd by other, why?

I didnt even see a team trying different comp ,pro guyz all just copy paste.

Also i dont see any difference in what is happening now and what was before with cele ele x4.

In conclusion not all blame is on anet for this situation ,if they even consulted some1 on took their insght i bet it was PRO teams who gave passing light .

For sure they did not listen to 90% of players

ESL Balance

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I think you will never see 2x mes 2x rev
This could be contered

By range -boon striping-cc

I beat bunker mes best with my pow shater mes ,or ones i played against were just bad…

Other wise i think you are right , to many no cast time cc and blocks with quicknes becoming as ordinary as potatoes.

Boon strip and cc ? Hum.. I wonder which are the two best class at doing that right now..

Oh….

In my book still best boon striping class is necro…

This same necro if power based will beat that mesmer ,how many bunker mes realy take that null field(since you dont go in shater line)?

Engi hammer and tool-kit ,match revenant if not outmatch them,a good engi is better contrinbution to a team than revenant imho.

A good wr, yes wr will take down that rev in very short time,or just time that shocking aura on UA and half of revenant* dmg is gone.

PPl just copy “pro” teams not thinking and even pro teams are copying with out thinking,as it seams…

You dont have to be super player to find counters,question is can you execute them and against which oponent.(this is in the area of theory only since no1 can measure this )

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chronobunker ultra version [VIDEO]

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I dont care whose build it is as longe as it works,i genrealy tend to play my and if it doesnt do well i search why on forums ,or how to counter certain classes.
What i loved about Osciats and Sensotix’s guids is insight on skill and why they were used.
You could be completly new to the class or a vet and still have some thing new to learn.
Ther is somthing siomilar latly made by this embolism guy ,alse very educational for any mesmer (he can claim any buld that has inspiration and chrono in it lol)

But his guid is very detailed and iformative,as your post is build showoff i wont hold it agaisnt you, that your post is not .

Even tho some claim this to be condi meta i personaly build my toons as with litle boons or condies as possible ( lot of corruption boons striping and condi trasnfer aroun latley)
I like things raw.

So even tho its not so new tought on boon sharing(ther was some guide on this, before chrono, forgot who has the honour exactly)

Applaud on trying different things to bout of you