It’s less a question of ‘is MMR broken?’ than ‘does anything work?’.
You also need an option to ‘dismiss’ (hide) advertised parties in which you have no interest, to cull what can be a long LFG list at times.
Two years later, obvious improvement is still obvious.
Everyone I have ever met loves skyhammer. #unrepresentativeanecdote
You crybabies are going to be embarrassed by this thread when the voting stats are released.
Instead of PvE, you get to play the Mists Minigame: accept the match ready prompt every 30 seconds until you eventually get a game or fall asleep.
There’s no good reason to have to queue in the Mists. Afks gonna afk, no matter how much you change the UI. If someone knowingly queues for pvp, why is there even an option for them to not enter the game? Give people 10 seconds notice then just boot them into the pvp map.
If player is in a load screen or cinematic, redirect them. If afk is still a problem, increase the afk dishonor penalty exponentially until people get the point. Anything but this.
The problem is I don’t have an option to avoid reading kittenbaggery like yours because you ‘cleverly’ disguise your ongoing dummy-spit baby tantrum in moronic, nonsensical threads like this one.
You made this OP only a couple of hours after this (popular as always) thread in your typically uninspired format of “X Y wah wah skyhammer”.
Maybe I should make a thread called “Is Warrior OP or Should style Uninstall and Go Back to The Sims?” Legit, right? It’s about warrior being OP.
Wait, what? That kind of limpwristed pedantry wouldn’t fool anyone, you say?
or
babies stop spamming forum with their l2p issues about maps they don’t like.
The verdict is in. Skyhammer stays. Grow up, move on and stop wasting everybody’s time.
Sick of seeing this trash qq spam clogging up the forums every time I come here. Start banning blatant trolls like style and people might actually start using the Skyhammer thread as intended.
And Entropy, you are bordering personal attack, if you have a problem, block me, leave it out of here though, you seem like someone who cannot discern the difference between fact and opinion.
LOL, you just can’t help yourself, can you, hypocrite. Even as you berate me for launching what you meekly characterise as a ‘personal attack’, you can’t resist injecting your own limp little personal snark.
This lack of self-awareness probably explains your unintentional contradictions, and your subsequent defensiveness when trying to cover up your embarrassing blunders.
If you have a problem, block me. See how that works? Just like if you have a problem with abusive players, you block them rather than isolate yourself from all team communications like some kind of emotionally fragile, home-schooled religious nut.
If that doesn’t help because everyone is calling you a noob… then you’re probably a noob. Consider reasonable criticism and try to improve.
The biggest reason why pvp in GW2 flopped incredibly hard was due to lack of (combat) depth in some areas. Without proper depth there will never be a strong/long lasting pvp community.
And so you whinge and complain about the one map that offers something a little different to your straight-up conquest bunker grind-fest.
And dont get me wrong…im a f ing monster on Skyhammer. Not because im skilled….but because its f in easy and im not braindead.
If Skyhammer is “f in easy” if you’re not “braindead” then the skill ceiling is simple to reach, ergo everyone should be playing at the same level. This is clearly not the case, as evidenced by your ego and all the qq Skyham threads.
In a hypothetical game where everyone is playing Skyhammer at the same level, you will get insta’d as much as you insta others. It’s a level playing field that offers a different challenge and adds a little variety to the standard game type.
BTW, it’s not hard to be a ‘monster’ in a 5v4.
I am perfectly fine with not reading chat
Hey, you don’t need chat to zerg around getting carried. I can see how getting raged at by people who are sick of your attitude would be ‘a distraction’.
You actually think you can read everything you need to know about a game from the minimap. Says it all, really.
You can still call things like 4 home, etc. even being unable to see it.
Everything that can be done, you can do yourself in SoloQ, by looking at the minimap every so often.
Way to contradict yourself, genius. If you can get everything you need from the minimap, why call numbers? Isn’t chat “simply a distraction”?
Your post is the reason I turn off chat, or should I say, the type of person behind the post
Yes, I’m the type of person who makes you turn chat off. I’m the type of person who expects some minimal level of effort and consideration from my team.
You’re the type of person who turns chat off so you don’t have to internalise challenges to your delusions of grandeur.
Worst attitude in PVP.
No wonder Solo Q sucks…
Turn off chat. There are times when having chat is actually useful…but if you are soloQ, just turn it off and save yourself the headache.
You can still call things like 4 home, etc. even being unable to see it. Just do the best you can do, and don’t let others bring you down.
So if everyone takes your advice, no-one is listening to anyone. You expect people to reinforce/avoid home in response to your calls, but you’re not even giving them the benefit of the doubt by listening to theirs?
How about you just do your best impersonation of an adult, discover some intestinal fortitude, and not care so much about what random strangers on the internet say about you. If someone is being particularly nasty and you’re all out of tissues, you can always block them, but if you’re turning off chat to spare yourself hurt feelings because you keep getting called a noob… you’re probably a noob.
If you don’t want to work together as a team to win tourneys, go back to hotjoin and stop wasting people’s time.
Pretty much. I think it has become apparent that devs aren’t going to put in the work that needs to be done. sPvP really did have a lot of potential, but it has been well and truly squandered in Anet’s obsession with PvE. Now it’s just a question of how long until the ‘next game’ comes out.
It’s sad that this is the competitive legacy of the great GW1. Exclusive PvP content would definitely be a step in the right direction, but at this point it would just be a band-aid improvement. Market share has already been damaged by the non-existent schedule of improvements. All I can reasonably foresee is a downward spiral.
woa i totally hate ppl like u
u may not have meant it but writing omg in caps then commanding him to do something, its just one of those situations i dont feel like doing anything that guy says further
OMG, DON’T GO AND JUMP OFF A BRIDGE.
Sometimes, you just have to put your ego aside and take good advice.
Future of sPvP looks good.
In other games.
Yo I was strolling, chillin’ in the desert with my sandwurm buddies. I turns out they are getting pretty angry at this whole skyhammer business: they ain’t no dead meat eaters. They want fresh blood, or veggies, but no corpses. I hear they say the feeling of lameness from falling through the glass floors makes the flesh taste bad. Can’t blame them.
I don’t know which hippie vegan sandwurms you’re talking to, but all of my sandwurm buddies say the tears of skyhammer noobs are the sweetest nectar.
The metagame in Skyham is not getting pulled through holes and knocked off edges. If you’re too cool to play the metagame, or you ‘know better’ for some reason, get used to faceplanting the ground and earning stacks of dishonor.
Really, no-one cares about your whiney l2p issues. There are a bunch of other vanilla conquest maps for you to roll hambow on, if that’s all you can play. If you absolutely can’t or won’t roll a CC spec in Skyham for whatever reason, just stay on midpoint and get carried by your betters.
So, cool story about every class being able to do this and skyhammer not being aids; please convince us more.
1. See Skyham pop, relog as engi. Problem solved.
2. Hotjoin, TeamQ or PvE so you don’t have to Skyham.
3. Harden up, know your role, know your enemy, stay away from edges, play better and have fun.
It’s amazing to me how ignorant people are when it comes to certain things.
Most of you failed to get it. I wasn’t even given a chance to try out just because I’m deaf. That fact alone was ignorance at its finest.
Thanks to those who came to my defense. But it’s no use arguing with ignorant and naive people.
4reals. Freaking nerds.
Have you considered the possibility that no-one wants you on their team because you’re a massive prat? Everyone who disagrees with you or doesn’t give you special consideration is ‘ignorant’ and it’s ‘no use arguing’ with them? Then don’t.
Your mother may have kicked up a stink with the school administration to make sure all the other children played with you when you were growing up, but you’re a big boy now.
As already mentioned, people aren’t excluding you because you’re deaf, they’re excluding you because you can’t use TS, but don’t let that stop you from playing the disabled card and acting like a victim.
It’s past time you were called on this ridiculous entitlement complex.
Yeah. It’s up to the players to all learn to play engi because one class dominates on a map, not the devs’ jobs to balance the map so that people can play all classes, right?
push build engi’s are already ridiculously overpowered in 1v1 situations but in sky hammer it’s just game ruining
Things Warriors Say.
why it’s hard to not say “screw PvP”
Why fight it?
3. Blaming other people means you don’t have to recognise your own faults. It’s a convenient ego-saving strategy and you should pay no heed.
Externalising criticism as ‘a convenient ego-saving strategy’ is a convenient ego-saving strategy.
the TOXIC members of the pvp community
Okay Britney.
Trashtalk win: hurt feelings, quit threats and a lengthy forum post.
Wish I knew that guy’s formula.
Ele burst is so telegraphed and predictable, of course it hits hard. If ele burst needs to be nerfed, why is no-one playing it?
Bunker guard is only OP because of the nature of conquest, decap engi because of the poor implementation of conquest, and thief/pu mes only really dominate 1v1. Every class has strengths and weaknesses, yes. What this has to do with your agenda against the weakest class in the game, I’m not sure.
When post-balance ele turns out to be the new hambow, I’ll march with you. Until then, let’s try and keep things in perspective.
OP, what you’re writing implies that you’ve gotten your glory boosted all this time
That doesn’t follow at all.
Does pretending to be a knowledgeable veteran usually get you off the hook?
To back up your claims of ‘I PLAY THEM ALL’, why not post your class pie chart? Let’s all see that great big chunk of thief pie.
You may be new to this game, but ele was nerfed almost a year ago. You claim you don’t care what gets nerfed or buffed, yet you are clearly terrified of any prospect of an ele buff. Hence your agenda to scare people off the ‘future OP ele’, despite it being hands-down the worst PvP class since April 2013.
You made all of those comments over the last four days. You’re obsessed with keeping ele down. Coming from a thief, that’s pretty lame.
The only funny part of this thread is thief complaining about other people running thieves.
Sigh. Unlike you, some of us run all classes. I think I was on engi that particular game.
‘Sigh. Dealing with people who call me on my bullkitten is so tiresome.’
You main thief, that much is clear. One might say you main bad thief, considering how scared you are of eles in this meta.
Either way, you have Champion Shadow title, yeah? So you’ve played at least 300 tourneys as thief. Probably getting carried while you kitten around on your no-responsibility roamer. But now that you’ve rolled engi, no-one else is allowed to play thief.
Funny really is the wrong word.
normal glory vendors removed
only 1 kodan npc glory rewards remain i think
All rank glory vendors will be staying in the game until the feature build.
I like your old stuff better than your new stuff.
Needs more angst. You must be getting too much kitten now that you’re famous.
The funny part is when they QQ about thieves being OP but somehow a team of 5 hambows or 5 engi is a guaranteed win.
Thieves are ‘OP’ 1v1 because that is broadly the role of the class.
They are largely useless in conquest because nubs who like to feel pro in duels run stealth/escape builds that can’t even prevent a decap.
The only funny part of this thread is thief complaining about other people running thieves.
“Please keep carrying my zerg, I want a free chest.”
Is it, an brilliant idea or a brilliant idea?
The phrase is, unlike this thread, “a brilliant idea”.
If you had meant ‘live’ as in breathing, I would have agreed with you.
As soon as eles get a bit of a survivability boost, you can add burst ele into that list as well.
This guy’s kitten is hilarious.
Mains thief, is terrified of hypothetical future ele. He must really need those free kills.
Further examples of this weaksauce agenda from the last 4 days alone:
- “As soon as they buff ele survivability, burst ele will be on this list as well.”
- “Burst ele will be the new fotm if they increase survivability and leave burst the same.”
- “If you add survivability to the ele without reducing its burst damage, you might as well add that to the list as well.”
- “Ele was OP at one point. Hopefully ANET has learned.”
- “Soon, we might be able to add a burst ele to the list if they keep the burst the same while increasing surivability.”
This isn’t circular reasoning.
We’re not saying we are going to do nothing because we said we would do nothing.
We’re saying we won’t change direction (from the previously stated plans) because it would put many players at a disadvantage, and on top of that these players would be hurt because they listened to us.
While this may not be circular reasoning, it’s still pretty light on the reasoning. I assume that is why there has been no further dialogue on this issue.
No-one ever suggested that players should benefit from hoarding boosters. The stated reasoning that players would somehow be ‘at a disadvantage’ for having used glory boosters as intended is farcical. The obvious compromise -providing some glory for unusable boosters, yet significantly less than what would be harvested using the booster as intended- completely exposes this ‘logic’.
This seems to be just another case of devs not having thought a fairly simple issue through in the first place. Their subsequent reluctance to throw dedicated PvPers such a cheap and easy bone as a token of sorely lacking goodwill is further evidence of the contempt they hold for the PvP community.
not only were they dropping after that they were selling them up till this month isn’t that bait and switch? something along the lines of hey lets sell this item till the last possible moment then after we take them off sale lets tell them we are deleting them a month or less later……seriously???
Selling known useless products is fraud.
Unless an expiry date was communicated at the point of sale, the consumer should be afforded a ‘reasonable’ window of time in which to use the product.
Now, Sensotix, I’m really happy for you and I’ma let you finish, but if the biggest issues you have are diamond skin and skyham, I don’t know what game you’ve been playing.
Always good to see eles.
On the other team.
You just haven’t played with good eles.
I haven’t played with any bigfoot or loch ness monster, either. That’s not evidence of bigfoot being a viable GW2 class.
I main ele.
You main something that likes free ele kills. Thief?
Always good to see eles.
On the other team.
The whole point of the thing is to bring in more players so player B has more than 10 people to play with.
It s less the problem that they break down the barrier, it is more like they seem to do it only in one direction.
Both good points. PvP fundamentally benefits from more players in a way that PvE doesn’t, however there are very real issues of equal access to content for time invested in the game.
Technically, we don’t know what the new PvP paradigm is going to be like yet but given ArenaNet’s track record, I’d say that being outraged in advance is a perfectly reasonable reaction.
…I don’t think this is a group that would throw hissy fits over broad, meaningless stereotypes.
Evidently, I was wrong.
Didn’t infract the racist, though.
#priorities
Solution: taking damage removes stealth.
Stealth balanced.
GOD YES, but add imo:,
if 20-30 % of life has been taken while in stealth, you will be revealed (or just add blood traces/ bloody footsteps, wutever)
% damage strips stealth sounds workable.
Oh the irony. Oh man I haven’t laughed this hard at forum go-ers in a long time. Thanks guys! My sides hurt again!
Small minds, huh?
what’s the counter to stealth revives?
Fear, push, knockback
AoE only. Can’t target, remember? But yeah, everyone should have stability and a PBAOE CC to counter one class res. That’s balance.
chaos storm, hundred blades, poison field and cluster bombs.
LOL, no. You don’t want to put auto-attack in there, too?
Now, were you going to reply to the rest of the post or just the couple of lines you have juvenile comebacks for? “+1 reading skillz”? Really, kid?
Haha get over it you poor suburban white male.
Odd stereotype. Or was it supposed to be a burn? I don’t know… kind of pointless as a burn. Definitely sounds racist, but I don’t think this is a group that would throw hissy fits over broad, meaningless stereotypes.
At least I’m hoping so after my recent speculation about the trickle-down effects of GW2 developer salaries.
According to poll 75% hates Skyhammer and wants it removed.
Results are unreliable.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/merged-The-Skyhammer-Thread/page/4
See also: Unrepresentative poll is unrepresentative.
Stealth Crank Gem Exchange Rate → More Money → Richer Devs → Richer Drug Dealers and Prostitutes → Same Game → Fewer Players → Dead
Intentional.
Approximates the differential value of GW2 players to Ar€naN€t.
Skyhammer…why?
Because.