Guild Wars 2

Have we received any feedback at all from ANet regarding Mirage in current state (or the beta state we tested)? Are they happy with the design or have they admitted to some of the concerns the players have and plan to look into it?

Where? How? I’ve had birthday booster and played quite a bit and still only a ascended ring :/ One friend no ascended at all and other just a ring or so as well even though spending several evenings there

I just glanced through the materials needed for legendary armor obtained through wvwvw and noticed they needed Cube of Stabilized Dark Energy? From what I understand the easiest way to obtain this is through running fractals?
And the ascended rings in wvwvw do not drop very often, or can be bought with laurels which takes a looong time and is quite expensive.
How do you guys work around this without having to run fractals?

Kiza.5630:

pinkglow.3429:

What are the other weapons called, for staff, scepter, axe, that are similar to whisperblade?

I think this is the list you’re looking for:
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Phantasm_weapons

Thanks a lot But there is no staff either? :/

What are the other weapons called, for staff, scepter, axe, that are similar to whisperblade?

Hackuuna.4085:

I tried both full zerk and full condi Mirage in WvW this past weekend and it’s definitely extremely strong. In large scale fights it far outperforms base Mesmer and of course doesn’t bring any utility that the Chrono does bring.

Having said that, I don’t play Chrono for the utility in zerg fights as I only play it full zerk or full condi. My impression is that my Chrono will do better in some situations and Mirage will do better in others, but the overall fun factor goes to Mirage.

I completely disagree with those saying the class mechanic sucks, as it seems to be a l2p issue. When you dodge with Mirage you can move freely in any direction you want. I think the dodge backwards might be the only situation where regular dodge has an advantage but even then an about face would do almost the same.

In terms of small or solo roaming the Mirage is going to bubble to the top of the food chain as the mobility and cleave is top notch.

What gear/weapon/runes do you recommend for condimirage in wvwvw?

I’m going to roll mirage wvwvw, good or not I can see myself having some fun (former shadowpriest in wow, used to being UP in pvp most of the time :P)

However, I imagine a lot of people here are more veteran mesmer players so I need your help to make it work

I will mostly solo, but every now and then join the zerg. What would be best weapons and gear and spec for it? I’ve asked in so many threads and made my own but only been met with silence Must be many of you who have speculated about it?

I felt the same that the axe might not be the best weapon for wvwvw in comparance to scepter, at least not in zerg, and perhaps even in roaming, though it feels like for roaming it won’t be completely useless. Perhaps to have a scepter handy for zerg wouldn’t be too bad? And I think we all agree that the only offhand to go with is torch?

The other weapon I feel like staff would be the best option. A powerbuild with GS seems fun in zerg, but that is to get an addition gear set when I have money, and atm I’m a poor pink asura mesmer, far from legendary armor as well :P

For gear I think about trailblazer/dire, because the survivalbility is not the best in mirage spec? Would it be losing out too much damage? Perhaps add some piece of viper into the gear?

For runes, is perplexity still the way to go? I can imagine lots of conditions going on with the new elite specs, so could antitoxin be a better option?`

I hope that in this thread I can receive some help?

I don’t know why they didn’t beta test the expansion properly before launch, there is not much time for them to fix many of the issues before launch tbh

I got top kills several times, because my ambush could kill downed players :P

Fay.2357:

pinkglow.3429:

Great feedback
You seem quite good at mesmer, if one wanted to play mirage in wvwvw what gear/runes and weapons would you suggest?

Since trailblazer and dire works for crono, same gear could work for mirage? And then keep staff as weapon, and get sword/shield and axe/torch? A kitteneaper way and then it is possible to swap between both specs?
But I feel mirage is much more squishy, so perhaps other runes are needed?
Seems tricky to get any information about what people think about it, so perhaps you can help?=)

Are you thinking for roaming or for an organized group composition?

Mostly roaming, but joining the zerg every now and then Hope you can help

Great feedback
You seem quite good at mesmer, if one wanted to play mirage in wvwvw what gear/runes and weapons would you suggest?

Since trailblazer and dire works for crono, same gear could work for mirage? And then keep staff as weapon, and get sword/shield and axe/torch? A kitteneaper way and then it is possible to swap between both specs?
But I feel mirage is much more squishy, so perhaps other runes are needed?
Seems tricky to get any information about what people think about it, so perhaps you can help?=)

I kind of like the spec in pvp, however I don’t feel like using any of the utilities :/
I’m just curious about what to gear, which I made a post about:P
If I absolutely hated the spec, I would probably still play mesmer but chrono instead

From what I’ve tested in mirage condition seems to be the way to go, overall. Perhaps try power for fun in wvwvw zerg, but condition for roaming.
What I’m thinking about is survivalbility? Is perhaps full trailblazer the way to go? But someone spoke in an earlier thread about condition duration reduction which seems appealing?
For condition, best choice of weapons feels like axe/torch and staff.
Any ideas people?

You can still play on live without new specs, or?

You must be doing something wrong, my friend is rolling around like crazy in pvp

Still the worst elite except for revenants perhaps :P
Wait until other classes hit you with real condition, but these classes have higher survivalbility :P

So with the nerfs to condition I read in other forums that people claim that power gear is just as good or better than condition gear now. I haven’t crafted any ascended yet but was on my way craft my first viper piece. Is this still the way to go with the nerfs? Perhaps it is possible to go full viper/trailblazer because it is harder to reach the cap now? Any advice would be helpful before I spend my money completely wrong

Watching new warrior spec 1000, 2000, 1000, and mesmer damage is OP?=)

Only one? evilness

swiftness signet?
Then you dont need to use focus

You can go chrono and mirage, live a little?

Why cant you????

Yea that is why it only worked back in the past during beta weekend, once game launched people learnt too fast in pvp to spot the real mesmer so shatter became the togo spec. Long time ago, but those beta weekends fooling players in pvp were the best days

Pretend to be the clone is what I always wanted in this spec, it was possible during beta weekends before game officially launched but died quite fast. If it is back I’m very happy

Seems like heavy condition damage so condition gear seems the way to go, no turning back from that trailblazer I guess :P

Do my daily crafting stuff, and stockpile gold and wait?=)

So, in order to prepare for expansion what gear should I focus on? Rumors said it will be a condition spec, and if so what condition gear should I be aiming for? Those trailblazers are expensive but perhaps gather the gold and get it done? Was starting to work on a budget GS power gear setup :P

And what about weapons? Will chrono and shield work together or are there other weapons I should start looking for?

Any ideas, what are you guys planning?

Swagger.1459:

You receive tomes of knowledge as rewards that can be used to level up.

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Tome_of_Knowledge

How often do they drop? Do they come with every progress reward or are they quite rare? Thinking if it’s viable to level in wvwvw with that change

I read in patch notes that xp gains have been removed from wvwvw and you now level through participation system that will reward a free level (how often seems unclear).
Is this faster or slower than former leveling system?
Does gathering herbs and stuff not reward xp either?
Thinking about perhaps making a return to GW2, but if leveling is slowed down in order to sell more boosts I probably won’t return :/

Btw, little info on what classes are on leaderboards. Anyone had the time and energy to find out most represented ones?

Heizero.9183:

pinkglow.3429:

Heizero.9183:

What games are you playing…? In tournament games? you only see 1 thief on each team at the most. and they are usually S/D… Heartseeker spam is easily countered and a horrendous waste of initiative on the thieves part making them an extremely easy target afterwards…

In solo queues. Well they zerg and stealth all together, the 2-3 of them each team each game. Sure, it’s better than the backstab-oneshot combo that lasted way long. But still, the class is never balanced right, it’s always too much damage and too much escape. Stealth is an issue, I would like to have it removed from game, would probably make my mesmer a bit more interesting as well.

You must be low rating or something, because i can assure you higher up the tier, or even mid-tier you hardly see them. stealthing hurts the team considering it can’t contest a node, which is why 80% of thieves these days just run S/D evade builds.

Maybe so, I just played 4 games so probably got no rating at all, not playing game regulary so checking in every now and then to see how the game is doing. 2-3 thieves in each team each game… I dont know how long I need to play to get rid of them… but too much of a buzzkiller to even try. Rather just wait and see if they will ever manage to sort that class out right. Even noticed my favourite mesmer in team paradigm rerolled thief, and they probably play as endgame as one could. The horror, the horror, and enough to put game back on shelf for a couple of more months.

had afker in 2 of 4 games. Looked for a report as well, had to choose botting which isnt true but only thing closest. AFK would be something, and autokick if entire team report. AFK:ers the new leavers?

Heizero.9183:

What games are you playing…? In tournament games? you only see 1 thief on each team at the most. and they are usually S/D… Heartseeker spam is easily countered and a horrendous waste of initiative on the thieves part making them an extremely easy target afterwards…

In solo queues. Well they zerg and stealth all together, the 2-3 of them each team each game. Sure, it’s better than the backstab-oneshot combo that lasted way long. But still, the class is never balanced right, it’s always too much damage and too much escape. Stealth is an issue, I would like to have it removed from game, would probably make my mesmer a bit more interesting as well.

Heizero.9183:

pinkglow.3429:

I came back to check out solo queue. Thieves everywhere heartseeker spamming, still viable since day 1 launch. And rest ranger/necro. Not fun, not balanced. Game is back on shelf again for me. Playing dota 2 instead, will probably log back after 3-4 months and check how things are again… maybe something happen. However, they really seem to have a hard time balancing those thieves, I think it’s mission impossible, if not done in a year… will it be easier in 2?

Heartseeker spamming…viable? Either troll or really awful.

Just play it, at least 2-3 thieves in every team every game… like they say “the truth is out there”

Remove stealth from game, problem solved. And yes, I even sacrifice the stealth my mesmer has as well. Something need to be done to those thieves.

I came back to check out solo queue. Thieves everywhere heartseeker spamming, still viable since day 1 launch. And rest ranger/necro. Not fun, not balanced. Game is back on shelf again for me. Playing dota 2 instead, will probably log back after 3-4 months and check how things are again… maybe something happen. However, they really seem to have a hard time balancing those thieves, I think it’s mission impossible, if not done in a year… will it be easier in 2?

I left when planetside2 hit, dont know the date. Just logged in to try christmas bg and recently the new map and tonight 1 team vs 1 team tournaments. My friends left in planerside2 and Im the only one who has returned to try some things out. They arent coming back, and tournaments arent sorted out enough for solo queues for me to return yet. Also balance is lacking, I want to be able to play more than glass shatter as a mesmer.

1. No updates
2. allergy to hotfixes
Pretty much this made my friends leave, and they arent coming back. So Im playing other games with them… and can only come back when theres a proper solo queue implemented. And it isnt right now, I tried tonight and patch has been out long enough to have premades progress through pugs… still I met premades every single game. So..

Anyone still on gandara eu?

Im out of questions, I need to see action

If players got to vote, the game will never be an e-sport. Now, according to me, it’s the devs to prove them wrong. So far… no big difference from the game since launch.

Thief backstab combo hasnt been touched for several months, and we quit when planetside2 launched =) Just tried it this night, Mesmers are strong, but still stuck with glass cannon shatter spec, I play mesmer and would like some more viable options. Overall problem is either bunker or glass to kill bunker which is boring and leaves out options. That has been a problem since launch. Balance fix + fix premade vs pugs but with no players left balance if the biggest issue. When balance is fixed, market the game somehow to bring old players back and organize ranks..

If the pvp community isnt that small, how long until premades are sorted out of rank from pugs? Im a bit drunk now, my bf is counting math with his friend so I tried a couple of drunk tournaments on my own. Havent played in some months.
Played a couple of games and all against premades. I dont know, the patch has been out for some weeks now right? Either the playerbase is really that bad in number, or matchmaking isnt working as intended at all.
Ah well, heavy assault with rocket launcher is fun, will go kill some planes and tanks now.

Nah, I will study most of the day. Might check the new map this weekend, a game or two… check if some changes are made to mesmer to make anything else work than glass cannon. Then logout and wait for another map to try once or twice or wait for solo queues

Well, me and my friends had a team and we were really trying our best in tournaments and we played when we had time. But lack of communication to playerbase, bugs being in too long and so on… you all know the story. When we were on skype some of our friends were playing other games and we had to drag them into this one and play with us. Then planetside2 launched and some of us went there and one went irl. We all played pvp in wow in the past and GW2 was a great place for us to meet up again and play the playstyle we liked, especially since this game was hyped around pvp and e-sport we defenitely didnt expect it to be same ol pve first, pvp second… but hey, look what happened =(

I know I will never get a second chance with my friends in this game again, if we meet up and play same game it will be another one. For me to return solo queues is a must. I dont have time looking for teams with randoms, and I really dont want to, I rather play other games with my friends then be forced spending hours in mist hoping that one team will pick me up. And I personally doubt it will happen anytime soon. This february patch is being stated as a pvp focused patch, and when will we ever got one of those again? Also considering the huge amount of pvp updates in this patch, next one will probably include same amount and perhaps not the right ones in there as well. It’s a shame that a game with so much possibilities ended up this way. It’s rare having an mmo being hyped as pvp focused, the competition out there is next to none existant and still they jump the train of focus pve, slack on pvp. Luckily there is no other serious competition to be released anytime soon so with right priorities they could stir things up to get the mmo pvp players back… however, current direction is too little too late, and it’s a shame really =/

It’s already been break for me, and as far as I can see this patch wont make it be less of a break to me. I will try new map one or two times. But as a sane pvp player Im getting my pvp fix in another game, and it’s for ANet to show and me to find out if there will ever be a make enough to bring me back… perhaps after summer or something like that considering their working speed.

I’ve followed forum and patch notes, think most people can add a summary to what happen from launch to now in a single forum post… sad but true :/

Lack of transparacy, lack of proper updates, and admitted allergy to hotfixes. People remember this, and even if players come back they need to be able to keep them. If they keep on letting bugs stay too long until they are fixed, if they keep on not giving us any heads up in their plans and if they keep on doing things too slow players will leave again. Their foundation is really lacking, and from what I see that is nothing they are planning to fix. They dont want to hotfix things, so bugs will keep staying in game for longer than they should have if they happen. Noone complains about too many hotfixes if they get a proper working game as result, but people will complain about everlasting bugs that breaks the game

I dont care about showing off in pve, it’s good being separated as it is. Just give some good competition going, split up solo queues and premades, a proper ladder, weekly and montly big tournaments or why not even one every night? If they even make tournaments for solo queuers it would be epic. And some more skins to choose from, heart of the mist works well for a show off place… just need more gear and more people actually being in heart of the mist. But we need to get some serious competition going, and to be able for anyone to take part the way they like it.

I expect my wait to continue. Will check in some evening after patch to try new map, check if they even tried to balance things and then log out and keep on playing other games until solo queues hit and hopefully some proper balance happen