You people are sad. It says the 16th(!) everywhere except for the friend trial.
Nowhere has it said 15th. 15th is a thursday, 16th is a friday, 16th makes sense, 15th doesnt. Lost shores goes live at 2100 CET tomorrow on the 16th, not the 15th. Patch will be earlyish tomorrow morning sometime CET.
Learn to look on the forums.
We do, and posted the thread. I also read the page marketing the patch as early as yesterday and it was same time as that forum post, even though it seemed to have been ninja removed. Now it’s 63min after that time we hear nothing. Events starting time, on the other hand, has always been stated to be nov 16 but that’s not what this is about.
They never said we would get a patch today. Different press sites said so and one locked threat implied it would be at noon PST (it was a question answered by a member then closed by a moderator thanking him for answering), but every other threads asking for a specific time have been answered by “you will know in due time”.
It’s fair to assume we won’t get any update until midnight PST. :|
Actually, they said it would be today:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/lostshores/When-will-the-update-be-availible/first#post739202
don’t want to burst any bubbles, BUT…
when will you people learn that Arenanet is bad at these things. its a simple result of over-spending on lore department and leaving other departments under-funded.
all of the future patches will always be late due to this, so whenever arenanet gives you a date, add +24 hours automaticly and you will never be dissapointed.And as far as this thread goes…. CC Eva has been assigned to close topics related to the patch release, so it will be closed soon. (all other 10+ were)
I agree to some extent. ANet isn’t very good at clearly communicating when items will be released, nor are they great at getting things out on time. I felt like the way they handled the Halloween update release was disappointing, and I’m hoping this one doesn’t go the same way.
It’s alrady 42 minutes late.
I dont like that they cant communicate in one place. Some things are said on facebook, some on twitter, some in a random server in game, and some in random forum posts. Why not use one place and put it all out there? I think this websites forum is the perfect place for it, and have people cheer the game on facebook and twitter instead. But… what can one do? You just have to lurk every kind of place and hope to find some information that can be interpreted into something =(
Well they cant close this thread without giving a proper answer, we all know and got links confirming that it would have launched 38min ago. It’s just a matter of us needing to know what’s happening. It was just a couple of hours ago they said it would be released 38min ago and no nothing now about technical issues, delay and how long, or anything at all. Like someone said, even if the patch isnt live they know what will be in it (unless they do a paid tournament once again and remove things last minute), so they should be able to give patch notes.
But guys the event starts on November 16, 9 PM CET (my time zone). Now it’s Nov 15, 9:13 PM CET
https://www.guildwars2.com/en/the-game/releases/november-2012/
Yes. but the patch is stated to be released 17 minutes ago
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/lostshores/When-will-the-update-be-availible/first#post739202
just a couple of hours ago, time is 10 min ago and nothing happens =(
Yes events always were 16 but the patch as early as yesterday had it’s date set to nov 15 9:00 pm CET on the page marketing the patch
But as soon as yesterday it said on the page marketing the patch it would hit nov 15 at 9:00 pm CET. Why do they always ninja change things without telling us?
Did they ninja change the date to nov 16? Smells like paid tournaments all over again. If not, the patch is just 4min away right?
Dont they give 15 min notice in game before patch is released? I smell paid tournaments all over again
strange that it’s not some maintenance now then if patch is hitting soon =) Or did we get ninjaed in last minute again? I can see they removed launch time nov 15 and 9:00 CET from the page they are marketing the patch on. 28 min left now then according to nottsgman then… will be an interesting wait :P
It said patch is coming 9:00 CET november 15. I cant really find a time converter and it’s usually countdowns everywhere. So is it 40min or 1h and 40min left? Me and my friends are waiting and want to know when to be ready =)
Tbh I dont understand why people still complain about mesmers, they got several nerfs without tweaking for other options and especially for weapons. There are way worse out there, you all should know it. Avoiding shatters is all there is to do, and there are several options in how to do that. I bet it’s not the bunkers out there begging for nerfs, and if you go glasscannon, then you are a glasscannon and should adapt your playstyle to that. A glasscannon cant take heavy damage, that’s why they are called it.
So honestly I dont understand what the fuzz is all about. Portal is good, but there are similarities for thief trap, necro snake. Sure not entire team can use their abilities, but I would personally be happy if entire enemy team went to one base… that means two bases for us =) Also mesmers dont have much speed in movement to rush stations, portal makes up for that but it still is on timer and on cd if you dont use it in time. And on trebucher… well, my honest opinion is that they should either do a heavy nerf to the trebucher but best case scenario is just removing the trebucher all together. Would make the map so much more interesting and fun to play, and add proper guardian fix to that and it’s all good.
If it’s spvp then remove wvwvw from title, otherwise this must be the wrong forum :P
elithrar: We all want to conquer them, and have backstab remove stealth and most of us will have the oppotunity to do so.
Anyone got some info what’s in the paid tournament chests? What kind of armor to look forward to for example?
What did they remove paid tournaments from the plans? We all read about it being released with todays patch. They cant just ninja remove it without telling us now… can they? They also said they care so much about the pvp community and we will get so much love and so many hugs? Because who know, perhaps pvp people will buy tournament tickets for their irl cash? A source of income, perhaps larger than a bat costume or what kind of costumes they now decide to sell to the pve roleplayers.
Wouldn’t they have said if they had change of plans? Or was the past answer to some dude in this forum about another upcoming blog post – this time with pictures – a replacement for our patch?
Ah, nvm, in the answer in the other forum post colin said this:
“We’ve actually posted in a number of threads here (now no longer on the front page) detailing what our plans are in the near future for SPvP, as well as posted a blog post that summarizes what’s coming shortly, and the build note preview on paid tournaments for the Halloween update. We’ll be going into more detail specific about competitive pvp next week on the blog including screenshots and feature descriptions, and of course will continue to update in these forums as well.”
So it will be in todays, or well tomorrows, patch. Just another extra day of waiting time :P
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Glory boost dont apply to actual glory leveling, it just give you additional glory outside of that.
I just think trebucher map would be more interesting without the trebucher
Hello! So it’s the 22 october, seven in the morning at least here in sweden. Will patch hit us today or we have to wait until tomorrow to get the americans a chance to catch up in time? Can’t really find any info about it
Hello!
I wonder with the upcoming paid tournaments if there’s any spvp guilds recruiting? Preferably at gandara but other servers are ok as well like far shiverpeaks or well any… since server change is free =) We are a couple of friends that could use one =)
I like all kind of builds, active or passive, want to try it all =) Post everything you can think of, thanks for help!
Posted wrong forum, move to mesmer one please =)
Hello! I have tried the more glass cannon builds in spvp with shatters and I dont feel really comfortable with it. Im mostly defending stations and supporting other with portal. However those backstab thieves and elementalists sure enjoy a good mesmer roaming. That’s why I would like a build with more survival without perhaps losing out too much on damage. Seems hard to find any builds of that kind so it would be helpful if someone could give me some tips and trix how to build a good one =)
Yea me and my friends had this problem past week, and we run different computer setups and different isps. Legacy of the foefire is the most painful one with major lag spikes while the other maps were ok. It’s also a tournament issue as well, legacy for some reason work better in hotjoin. What is the problem here?
Well if you will never see a mesmer ever in a long run, then it’s not working as intended :P Thing is that a profession should be balanced but still viable. If noone plays a profession that profession isn’t viable. If it was working as intended then there should be a mesmer here and there most of the time.
However, the nerf is probably good since most people only complained about phantasms, but mesmer is still a viable profession to play overall and still probably a must have on trebucher last tournament map. In a good shape, just make other professions viable trebuchers as well… boring to be the trebucher man all the time :P
To summarise: you will still see mesmers, and it’s a good thing. Perhaps they wont be everywhere but hopefully as represented as any other profession.
Me and my friends have had issues with lag in tournaments this past week. The map with most issues is Legacy of foefire. We all run different computer setups and different ISP so that can’t be the case… issues must be with the game. No lag in hot-join or in heart of the mist, and first tournament is playable a bit but that second map is a nightmare. Anyone else noticed this?
I think adults use their time more wisely as in making value out of time and money. You know what has been marketed, and if you dont get it after you paid for it the product isn’t good enough. Sure, back in the days when there was either this or no viable option, companies could get away with “soon” in terms of delivery, but we all know that’s not how the market looks today and customers act after it. It doesnt mean they wont still try to get what they paid for, and that’s why they turn to forums like this and express their feelings. And that’s usually what forums are all about, if everything was just sunshine and happy life there wouldn’t be very much life in forums, because people dont need to discuss if they dont have different opinions or gather around opinions about something they need to be changed.
Yea, they should nerf mesmers somehow. I liked at start when mesmers were a rather rare breed to come by. If prefer playing professions that aren’t overflooded, and I love the mesmer playstyle since I played only that at start =( Fortunately I havent got much gametime atm because of busy irl, but I rather dont play then play when my profession is everywhere, so guess I should just try engineer, necromancer or ranger or something if I do play while waiting… not as fun but what can you do?
Well ANet somehow got the greatest rep for caring about their players, if it’s because of clever marketing or just from back in GW1 I dont know. It’s a good start for the company, but some people just check if they got what they paid for or was promised in actual gaming. So far spvp has been completely neglected and ignored. Many people dont wait because someone says the company is a friendly one, if the game is close to unplayable in it’s lack of balance and lack of promised features it doesnt matter if the creators are friendly and working for the salary if nothing reaches the customers. It’s the brutal truth. In the long run it’s affecting the companys rep as well since customers feeling neglected will have that opinion and that’s the opinion they will share. Countless of gaming companies have suffered from bad reputation because they promised players things that never happened or happened too late. You cant keep the game released in beta state for so long.
It’s just a blog with updates, it’s not that hard to post one sooner than later and if something change after the first one is posted, just add a new one with the new changes. People need to feel the developers care, if someone random says they do it’s just words and words means nothing if there’s no action to it.
Learn to be part of a team before joining tournaments! Go sPvP to learn the meaning of teamplay before anything else…tired of leavers who think to be uber pro
Its easy to be a pro if you’re never in a losing team :P
Anyway, I think the function is good, if you dont intend to play tournaments the entire tournament then that’s what hotjoin is for… “hotjoining”
why should 10/1 patch be a major one? any source to this info?
Last week someone wrote that 24 of september had a superduperpatch inc, I asked for source and no reply and we all knew what happened that day :P
You’ve not bought permission to demand Jon to schedule communications around your whims. It’s done when it’s ready; not when you demand it because you feel it’s owed to you.
At my whim? He told us it’d be here 2 weeks ago. 4 weeks total since release where we were promised full pvp game. Why are you making it seem like we’re dragging him off work by asking him to, basically, write an essay? It IS his job if you havent noticed, and we have waited 2 weeks for it, after being promised multiple times. You’re just bending everything just so you can make a reply and feel you won an argument. I dont think its going to change as you’ve obviously already taken the role of forum police, so whatever.
Cant be babyanimal’d to discuss anything further with people like you, in part because the blog should be here after some translations..for real this time..i think.
Oh and please remember, we are only this vocal because we want this game to succeed really bad, not seeing our friends slowly trickle away. Maybe you have the patience, and apperantly we do as well as we are still here, but that doesnt go for everyone and that fact can directly affect our enjoyment of what we consider the most important part of the game and its main selling point.
It’s true. Some of us are GW2 fans, but not all of us have friends that share same love. They want competitive pvp, and go where they can find it. If it doesn’t happen soon enough here many of us might lose friends to other games… and tbh GW2 is not half as fun if you have to play it alone.
Well, since yesterday it was stated that there’s nothing but translation left there’s no excuses not to launch the blog today. What other updates is there to translate atm?
Anyway, waiting 2 weeks for a blogpost just higher the expectations on it’s content. People want the blog of the lords and will be disappointed if it doesnt deliver. Even if it would deliver it’s still just a blog, not updates that are happening in reality. It can say everyone will be balanced to the ground, but it may still take 2 months or more to implement it. The pvp community do not only need that blog that show us you care, but also real updates that are happening in game.
The differences between skill cap is the issue. Each class should reward skill, but if you can just jump in a crowd and spam one or two buttons and cause a lot of damage or death game isn’t working as intended. Clever use of weapons and skill should be rewarding, and that’s not the case in some professions. Until that’s fixed, e-sport is not in sight. E-sport is for skilled people, not for casual button mashing people who just started to play. As it is now, you can be viable in some professions without having to think twice about pretty much anything and serious work around that would make the game interesting.
The sharks are pretty much in the way to have a proper underwater fight, the biggest issue I think. Otherwise it’s a friendly jump and cap map… probably one of the maps that gives you most glory and I like it because of that. I stay away from water though, it’s a shame because proper underwater fights would be fun.
So whats the surest sign of a broken/op/unbalanced class???? Anyone....
in PvP
Posted by: pinkglow.3429
See here yet another person is saying that casual pvpers dont matter its tourney players that do and while i understand that that aspect of the game is important to the players that play tourneys but some of us dont or cant b/c they dont have a team to play with or lets face it not good enough too….i fall into the latter there but that doesnt mean it doesnt matter that the part we/I enjoy is unenjoyable in its current state is unimportant?
I understand you can feel sad. However, since casual play isnt premade teams will be random and sometimes there will be many of one profession. To prevent that they need to fix casual play so that there are just a certain number of certain profession that are allowed in to a game. That pretty much destroy the thing with “hot join”, that you easy can join and leave a game and just play for a little while. What they do have with this “hot join” is that you can easy leave a game and join another without being punished, and I would take advantage of that if I didnt like the enemy team for some reason. Time wasted on something that just annoys you simply is time wasted.
So whats the surest sign of a broken/op/unbalanced class???? Anyone....
in PvP
Posted by: pinkglow.3429
Casual is random players mixed together, and not consider competitive play. If it happens there and not in tournament setup it’s just not a viable build. If a class is overpopulated in enemy team you can always just join another game without punishment for leaving. Casual teams can always consist of many of one profession, not only mesmers. Good thing is that you always have a choice to deal with it, or leave for another game. Premades are pretty much impossible to do in casual play, and option to leave is also very easy with plenty of other games going on in the browser. I wouldnt worry too much.
Guess the chunky update was just a speculation then, dont fool the anticipating pvp community like that =)
So whats the surest sign of a broken/op/unbalanced class???? Anyone....
in PvP
Posted by: pinkglow.3429
Well, if your enemies has 4 mesmers on one station then you got plenty of other players to take the other two bases. They only got one doing something else then, so not a smart setup in any tournament team. I must say I never seen the setup. What I usually see: first map is a guardian, two warriors and two thiefs. Second map is two guardians, a thief and a warrior and a random. Last map is two guardians, a thief, a warrior and a mesmer (sometimes a ranger instead of anyone except the mesmer). That’s overall the most common setups in tournament play.
I bet it will be changed. No problem, as a mesmer it would feel good not to be that person on trebucher all the time. But good teams work on good ways to counter it. Take that condition ranger that eats mesmers for breakfast and let him keep an eye on when the mesmer repaired trebucher again, or any other class or two. If the mesmer starts fighting you he will not use trebucher. If the mesmer start running and you dont kill the trebucher he will have wasted time and portal cd… if you kill it when he comes back he might have cd on portal and then cant fast-repair. People are creative in using smart ways to counter stuff. It’s only when you leave the trebucher alone you might get a disadvantage, but then it doesnt matter if it’s a mesmer or any other profession using it. Nerf or not, your team must always have a strategy to deal with trebucher use.
Where does it say it will be a chunky update tomorrow?
Check in spvp forum, there are posts everywhere about mesmers being superstrongest ever… I just wonder what is the problem really?
There seem to be lots of crying for nerfs for mesmers, but what is it that makes mesmers too strong? Is it a certain weapon combo, and if so is it greatsword/sword pistol or staff/sword pistol? We dont see many spvp mesmers having any other weapon combos than that, and I guess we see more greatswords than staffs. Or is it the moa bird? Or something else? What is the main issue?
LEARN 2 PLAY THIS IS GUILDWARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The thing is that thieves dont have to, they can push out too much damage without having any kind of skill. Anyone can try and will see results. That why they need to do something about them, especially since spvp in this game is suppose to reward skills, and going for e-sport material wont happen if they keep any profession this faceroll to play.
Guardians shouldnt get that many knockdowns for going survival, they are a must in tournaments and too good at holding stations. Add knockbacks to dps weapons and give the survival/heal weapons something else. Also the elite skill is good, no other game allow someone to heal all their team mates to max. It got removed from paladins in wow arena for example, and they aren’t e-sport material which GW2 is aiming for.
Mesmer need to use abilities and swap weapon to be viable. As a thief you can plow through kills with the use of 3 abilities and mainly keynr 2 when its available. Anyone can try. Least skill is in warriors and thieves, that is the main issue. Other than that is guardians are too strong, with knockdowns, heals and survivalbility. They should need to sacrifice ccs for going survival/heal. This is obvious as well, how many premade tournaments do you see that consist of: thieves, warriors and guardians? They are everywhere. Only map where mesmer is an option is last tournament map, and it’s not because of phantasms, it’s because of trebucher.
Game isnt based around 1v1, together with a thief for example they can oneshot things easily. Hundred blades is too strong and even though heartseeker is worse, it isnt skill rewarding as this game should be. Nerf the blades and look over other things that reward using more abilities, that reward weapon swapping. Warriors is in a OP place now because of 100 blades, you can hardly find any premade tournament team without at least one or two of them.
Not to be harsh, but define empty promises?
Many features people are waiting for you marketed with the game: monthly and yearly tournaments, a want to be “best pvp player of the year”, balance so spvp is “e-sport value”, options to play all the way 1v1 up to… 10v10, possibility to create your own games and tournaments, spectator mode. Those are already promised features and now the community is waiting for when will we get these things you marketed and made many people buy the game? You are not in a place now when you can start from scratch and make up things as you want to add, sure you can do that as well… adding surprises is fun. However you already made promises we are waiting for you to keep, and they should be ready by now since you said they would come with the game.