Guild Wars 2

He’s not, thousands of teams have killed him. Learn the fight, come prepared, conquer the boss.

Easy as it can be.

Shufflepants.9785:

Windu The Forbidden One.6045:

I agree to an extend. Though I have to point out that “It’s optional, you have HAVE to do it” is the worst excuse for a problem and I’m sick of hearing it.

Keep in mind that the entire game is optional.

Your grievance with the use of the word “optional” as an excuse to the problem comes from your misunderstanding of the exact use and context of the word “optional” when we apply it to things in guild wars 2.

When we say that it’s “optional”, we mean, “you do not need to do this first in order to do or see any of the content in the game.” You do not need ascended gear in order to complete explorable dungeons. You may need ascended gear to do some later levels of fractals, but later levels are not considered new content, they are the same fights with lower tolerances on mistakes; ascended gear is not necessary for Fractals lvl 1.

Notice, this sort of system where the best gear is unnecessary to complete certain content is not present in all games. In vanilla world of warcraft, epic gear was not optional. There were simply some fights in the later dungeons that your group simply had no hope of beating without farming up epics from previous dungeons.

But in Guild Wars 2, the best gear (and the best skins) are not necessary in order stand a reasonable chance of defeating all the content in the game. Thus, they are optional.

This usage of “optional” is not the same at all as the “optional” you use when you say “the entire game is optional”.

You NEED ascended gear to progress your character to max stats. All the stuff you listed are usually things people do in order to accomplish the ultimate gamer goal, maxed out stats. If you can recognize that playing any game is a want, then you should be able to realize that inside of a want there are needs. If those needs aren’t met then the person no longer wants. With games one of the needs is character progression.

GW2 does horribly at cosmetic progression(worst armor design) so they added ascended. Instead of just making ascended gear have an agony slot and no increase in stats, which would make it truly optional to anyone not interested in fractals, they went for stat progression. Now people are forced to grind content(dailies, missions, fractals) in order to fulfill that ultimate gamer need of max stats.

When that need cannot be fulfilled in a fun/timely manner people will quit the game because they no longer want to play it. Blockading that progression behind grinds and time gates is absolutely poor game design trying to exploit the need for progression. Not only that it hurts character variety because people don’t want to try new specs/stats combos because of the time sink that is ascended. Laurels, commendations, and Pristine fractal tokens(least of the bunch) are terrible progression systems for a set of gear that should have never been in the game.

If you say anything possibly negative about moderators or ANet they hit you with infractions. Ive been personally targeted by angry moderators before and it sucks. I had a moderator following me around for days infracting every single thing I said that wasnt absolutely positive. If I disagreed with someone in a polite way, I was infracted.

Who cares?

I have 15 alts. I run Zone 1 on each of them daily, if I feel like it and time permits. So far I have one found skin and one bauble-purchased skin. I’ll have one more bauble-purchased skin today.

If someone has dedicated that much time to deleting and re-creating alts, then running again and again, I don’t see a problem with it.

The nice thing about SAB is that it actually is accessible to everyone who wants to play it, the way they want to play it, for as long or as little as they want to play it. It has a chance to get nice things, and a guarantee of getting nice things.

There are plenty of things to be elitist about and angst over who has something you do or who didn’t earn it the way you think they should have. Please don’t bring it into this.

JonathanSharp.7094:

We’re going to be working on a lot of Warrior stuff in the coming patches. But will we be changing things, in the OP’s words, “in a few days”? Nope. We have to wait for patches to move through the system of developing content, refining it, iterating on it, getting it tested, and then getting pushed to live.

Warriors are very strong in PvE, and they’re struggling in PvP – we know this. Contrary to popular belief, we play our game, in all formats, and we talk to player experts in all formats. We also read the forums.

But that doesn’t mean we’re going to throw knee-jerk/reactive changes based on any piece of feedback we receive. As we’ve said NUMEROUS times, we’re doing slow tweaks so that we don’t have to do whack-a-mole balance.

Just because things don’t happen “in a few days” doesn’t mean they’re not happening!

Hey. For now i like only play as a warrior because of his gameplay style. There’s so many ppl like me. And as you say, you ruined our main gameplay mechanics and the class itself for months only to see what’s happen. To get some statistics… Do you think thats normal?

Well, now you see clearly about warriors dead in pvp and need no more stats to prove. What about some temporary fixes? Like decreasing frenzy penalty to 25% or million possible decisions that are easy to deploy and cost nothing. Just playing with values. This is what i meant “in few days”. By the way, what about to do this things right now?

Your “methods” – to do things slooowly, get statistics blabla – totally bullkitten. Look at the most balanced cybersports games like Starcraft 2, League of Legends, etc etc… They have regular balance patches, hotfixes. Some test servers to experiment, “watch feedback” and to prevent stupid mistakes be on live ones. And your game with your unique super-ultra-methods-mark3 has no balance at all. Has some core features broken after your tweaks. No test servers. You said that you do some tests before apply. But you dont even know how pvp works. NO SIMPLY BUG FIXES. Only words and promises. Sometimes it seems like all of your class changes are pretty random and were maid in a day before its release date just to show ppl that you do something.

I love this game so much, I see its awesome pvp potential and it hurts very hard to know developers does not interested about that. Nothing personal to you, Jonh. I hope you prove me wrong.

I’m not sure if this is solely a suggestion thread, but it does pertain just to living world. I’ll start by saying this isn’t my idea, this has been mentioned in several other threads. But I haven’t seen a thread dedicated to the idea. (Correct me if I missed one and this is a repeat.) I am adding on anything I believe would better the general idea.

I think the living story ends should allow players to receive one weapon ticket for trade to get a skin. Now it is called flame and frost, so I’m hoping there may be a frost style weapon to counter the fused ones. The ticket should be account bound, and 1 per account. So technically you would finish both/all the stories and receive one fused and one frost ticket. This would allow the weapon skins to remain somewhat rare as only one character could wield it. I believe the point of these skins being so rare is to allow them to not become an every day skin. Much like dungeon skins have become the norm for many players. Both tickets would still be available inside the BL chests for those who are lucky enough to get them that way. This idea allows for 2 possible ways of getting them, while keeping them rare.

After the one skin both fused and frost, players could then; if they wish, purchase keys to try and get more.

So hopefully this thread can be seen by devs and the people who wanted this idea can be heard. I understand the frustration some people have about the BL randomness of getting skins, but please keep in mind that is not the purpose of this discussion.

So how many people would like to see this idea implemented, and does anyone have anything to add to this?

Thank you for your time.

The most annoing is fight with a large pack of mobs with high health polls, high DPS and 0 combat mechanics just to obtain 2 grey item and 1 blue.

PPl only fight trash for 2 reasons: 1) necessary to progress in dungeon (like dredge in frac) 2) loot. If mobs are a waste of time ppl just run.

Martin Kerstein.3071:

We will leave this thread open, but will keep an eye on it. If it will get derailed or something like the earlier “incident” will take place, we will close it immediately.

We understand that leaderboards are very important to you, but please understand that we also want to make sure they work as intended, because I am very sure incorrectly working leaderboards would not make a highly competitive PvP base happy. We will let you know when they will be going live as soon as we feel comfortable to do so.

So please keep the discussion in this thread civil and on point.

Martin,

Thank you first and foremost for communicating this to us. Please understand that 99.9% of the “highly competitive” community would be content if you guys simply kept us in the loop more. In the last 6+ months, we as a community have been jerked around with empty promises of e-sport and it is very hard to continue to support this game when we know NOTHING about the direction it is headed.

You are the first (FIRST) dev to come on and give us something of a concrete answer on what the heck is going on with the leaderboards. Thank you again for your time and please encourage your higher ups to COMMUNICATE via a formal announcement regarding the delay of leaderboards SOON. Without such an announcement, how can you expect the player base NOT to ask questions?

Thanks again!

It has a much higher learning curve, which is why you see people that dislike(typically too complex for them) and you see people that like the game. Overall the community in GW1 is much more mature and the game truly rewards you in everything you do.
P.S. builds are awesome in the game.

You only completed them because you were doing WVW and Fractles.
So, you inadvertantly were killing vets and completing events.

If you did anything else you would have found the monthly to be difficult.

Let’s beat this horse to death once more, with feeling.

Old AC was fine. Easy, nice introduction to dungeonning, Kohler was a fun fight for organized group, you could go in and out in less than half an hour for reasonable rewards, and it was altogether rookie and pug friendly.

New AC is a chore. Unorganized pug fail it massively, organized groups struggle with tedious/bugged boss mechanics, and it’s no longer rookie friendly as you need to expertly dodge, purge conditions, keep on your toes not to get repeated knocks backs from trash mobs.

Is it more challenging? Not really for someone who already finished multiple times the other dungeons in the game.

Is it more fun? I, for one, find it spectacularly tedious. Ghostbuster fight was fun for two minutes the first time. I don’t want to go through it ever again. Howling King (and the burrow event) lags horrendously on my system (it used to work as intended), so it’s not fun at all being mauled to death by invisible adds. Never tried Grast, but from what I’ve heard it’s the most bugged of the three flavours, so no thank you.

No wonder then no one want to run it anymore, except experienced players that have no way around farming tokens for legendary weapon crafting. HotW is now a better farm spot for PVT exotic armor.

A game without a subscription will never die. If players get bored they can take a break and come back whenever.

It is doing pretty well. I would guess the game has at least 1 million active players. Others come and go.

Based on info around the net it is probably the second or third most populated MMO on the market right now. Depending on how much Aion has dropped in the last year.

A developer should always be hiring and looking for new talent. The skills required to create a game like this aren’t very common. They are quickly snatched up by the many different companies.

Plus there are so many suckers spending a ton of money on the gem store, they have probably made more from that than actual game sales.

Game launched and its a beautiful fantasy world, possibly one of the best ive played.
But im starting to see it go down hill pretty fast.

I mean what exactly is Anets goal here? Is it not a fantasy game ?
It had some questionable concepts at first, then back packs and hoodies came out in the store…..really ? theres almost nothing worth buying as is, and 1 of the 3 armor sets looks like a reject from a bad kiss concert superhero convension..

But now theres the super box…..now im seeing people running around with digital monkeys and theres anoying digital effects and clouds……

So what is Anets goal here? some kind of hybrid game ? will I be able to buy a ford truck in the cash shop soon ? maybe a skate board ?

Am I the only one disapointed by this stuff? The game has the potential to be a fantastic fantasy world and instead its turning into some kind of mashup of american mmo game play and nonsensical japanese anime styling .

Can someone explain the point im missing ?

Ooshi.8607:

Stop being so grumpy, it’s a bit of harmless fun!

If you really don’t enjoy it do not take part in it, avoid Rata Sum, do not open the mysterious boxes!

Sure ill just turn off all the sound to so i dont ahve to here anoying 8bit music in the load screen, or the anoying sounds of all the effects and pets running around.

Im not a RP player or anything but i like to be immersed in a world when i play, and this stuff destroys it.

Im happy some like it I really am, but this game is turning into something other than a fantasy mmo. Personally this makes me sad.

Dark FQ.1038:

And again people are comparing Guild Wars 2 with other MMO’s

Ok then, what am I supposed to compare it to?

This game is amazing compared to Super Mario Bros! It’s got amazing graphics and story and it’s in 3d and the different characters aren’t just a palette swap!

This game sucks compared to ice cream. It tastes like plastic and metal. Ice cream tastes like cold, chocolate goodness!

I can’t help but agree. This method of content updates just doesnt have the same substance as previous games. The very idea of something happening or changing in the world whether you’re there or not is not going to grow fond memories for any kind of casual audience or players who miss out on such events due to other real life responsabilities. Southsun cove is a good example, any new players joining the game around now will probably have no idea of the relevence behind the karka and will probably wonder why there is an empty level 80 zone in the middle of the sea.

This method also greatly reduces the amount of time people will be playing the game. Older games with expansions of new areas etc. still have those areas open to new people joining the game late. At this stage in GW2 there is just the personal story and the living story. With the living story constantly progressing and removing the old living story content to make way for new content, a new player will only ever have the personal story and the current living story available to them. Older players will have had the entire living story up until that point, with the experience and the memories of what happened in them. New players get shafted, feel hard done to and decide their time is better spent elsewhere. I know it sound ridiculous but in my experience, this is what happens over the course of the life of such MMORPG games.

I hope future content isn’t as mediocre as this has turned out to be.

It is a valid point; this strategy may actually be backfiring.

I know quite a few players who arn’t actively playing GW2 anymore because they are waiting for “more content”; this short term content tends to fly under the radar and when they finally DO return, they see no new content, shrug and go back to playing something else while they wait.

This strategy is novel; but it might not be working as intended

I can’t help but feel like it’s a strange idea to spend development time on temporary content.

If you look back at older MMOs like Everquest or World of Warcraft or City of Heroes(RIP), they contain a seemingly bottomless pit of content. Years and years of updates and expansions stacked on top of one another make for a wealth of content that newer MMO’s can only hope to obtain in time. Even if it ends up being largely unused as the players keep up with the ever advancing endgame, it allows newer players to see and explore the past. Kind of like how the Southsun Cove is now. It’s fallen into obscurity, but newer players who wern’t around for the event have the oppourtunity to discover the area and explore it.

There are still so many areas of this game that can be filled out. Why spend time on this when you can make more permanent additions to your game and use them as selling points? Just from past updates, I get the impression that the dev team is spread thin enough as it is without tacking on tasks that only have a temporary impact. Spend those resources elsewhere like patch QA, bugfixing, mini games, new zones, polishing the personal story, balancing skills and traits, etc. I think that would be appreciated more than what were getting with the living story now.

Oh lookie there, the new GW2 monetization manager is doing a great job at making all the items the people want so expensive that you have to buy gold to afford them.

Just wanted to share my reaping of the 100 Black Lion Chests I opened today in attempt to get a fused weapon claim ticket.

• 7x Black Lion Harvesting Sickle
• 6x Black Lion Mining Pick
• 6x Black Lion Logging Axe
• 4x Black Lion Salvage Kit

• 1x Total Makeover Kit
• 2x Dye Pack
• 29x Unidentified Dyes
• 1x Pink Quaggan Backpack Set
• 15x Transmutation Crystals
• 82x Mystery Tonics

• 7x Revive Orbs
• 7x Instant Repair Canisters

• 10x Karma Boosters
• 3x Armor Boosters
• 6x Magic Find Boosters
• 9x Rejuvenation Boosters
• 15x Experience Boosters
• 6x Crafting Boosters
• 8x Strength Boosters
• 6x Speed Boosters
• 11x Armor Boosters
• 9x Killstreak Experience Boosters

• 2x Large Guild Discovery
• 5x Medium Guild Discovery
• 5x Small Guild Discovery

• 12x Trading Post Expresses
• 13x Bank Access Expresses
• 12x Merchant Expresses

0/100 Black Lion Chests for a fused weapon claim ticket. I have 2 guildies who received a ticket in under 5 chests. RNG Troll strikes again!

That sort of RNG luck is actually quite depressing. Good luck to you, truly, hopefully it is better than mine.

About the orders, I’m quite surprised that they didn’t do it like EoTN where you can do favors for each of them and in the process, participate in their story and learn more about them. Possibly also progress your character through an order of choice. Even the kurzick/luxon war in factions were more involved than the three orders in GW2 now.

The “Defeat pure evil and save the world” plot is about as simplistic and forgettable as plots can be. I’d be more interested in the conflicts the orders face amongst themselves and how their different ideologies clash.

Instead of just throwing the personal story away though, I hope they salvage it by making all three orders recognize our hero after we defeat zhaitan, and let the three orders continue to drive the story onward. It even fits the current living story. The order of whispers should likely have both the dredge and the flame legion infiltrated by now and can provide a lot of intel as the vigil continue to escort and take care of refugees. The priory should have started working on a solution to the problem as well.

If players could take part in that capacity, it will allow continuity for all future stories, no matter what kind of story they add. Even if it’s a complete new plot where the main antagonists and everything is entirely done from scratch, players will still not find it confusing because by then, they’ll likely have picked a favorite order and has already familiarized themselves with their usual channels. The stories can be delivered more coherently, without unnecessary not-quite-a-quest-dispenser heralds that nobody cares to click.

Let’s also at least try to create some justification for why Orr is still swarming with undead after it’s supposedly purified. Maybe the process just takes very long, but at least people who have completed the story should be able to visit that sanctum in a separate instance, it could be a hub for people who have completed the story to meet and possible have some ongoing story stuff there.