Guild Wars 2

This is a very interesting and fresh idea, go on.

medium armor for guys is either a trench coat or a man skirt. Please add more sexy diversity.

Pandaman.4758:

cranos.5913:

Pandaman.4758:

That’s patently false.

Source: every person who has ever played anything other than zerk.

Actually there are numerous videos of people completing arah and fractals with unbound dodge buttons. Ofc these are people that usually play with berserker gear and know their class and encounters well.

I’m sure they will pop up sooner or later, posted by someone less lazy than me.

Amusingly enough that wouldn’t contradict what I said, since it would be people showing zerkers not needing dodge buttons

These are people wearing clerics gear obviously, “zerkers” most definitely need to dodge. Please show me how you complete Arah in berserker gear without dodging.

Pandaman.4758:

cranos.5913:

Pandaman.4758:

That’s patently false.

Source: every person who has ever played anything other than zerk.

Actually there are numerous videos of people completing arah and fractals with unbound dodge buttons. Ofc these are people that usually play with berserker gear and know their class and encounters well.

I’m sure they will pop up sooner or later, posted by someone less lazy than me.

Amusingly enough that wouldn’t contradict what I said, since it would be people showing zerkers not needing dodge buttons

Read what he said again.

So they can concentrate discussion into one thread so that it can be more easily ignored

They don’t hate farming specifically.

They hate everything that gives players gold that wasn’t bought with gems.

Get More Gold!

Remember that you can exchange gems and gold at our currency exchange on the second tab of the Black Lion Trading Company! Currently, you can get 1 gold for about 15 gems and 50 gold for about 670 gems!

Source.

Did I answer your question?

“Toxic” stop using this word jesus christ

That’s a very fair assessment of your motivation and probably applies to a lot of hardcore players, myself included.

But honestly I don’t see anything happening within the next few weeks/months. sPvP has only just gotten a new progression system and it will take a while for ANet to revisit the issue.

sPvP has always been the weakest aspect of the game and the one that retains the fewest players and adds the least amount of monetization. I don’t imagine it getting much revision anytime soon.

If you want a real long-term goal, try chasing some of those WvW achievements. Now that’s a long-term goal.

As it said it in the title. What’s up?

No, it’s part of the rotation this week. I can read, thanks.

“Why all so negative?” you ask?

This is the final update in the Scarlet Briar arc and I haven’t seen Scarlet Briar since the drill landed. I can’t kill the knights and I don’t have a back piece. I think I’m done.

EDIT: And yes, every update feels like nothing more than a reskin of the previous update’s zergfest. I don’t do zergs.

This would overly favor classes with high toughness and vitality. Investment in more toughness vitality and armor makes no sense when certain professions already have a significant advantage in the same.

Chris Whiteside.6102:

haviz.1340:

“Lore people” will play fractals once or twice and move on to roleplay in divinity’s reach while more dedicated players will get bored because it will lack any sort of challenge except bigger numbers.

What should be done is to severely decrease the number of scales, the difference between 1 and 9 is trivial. Introduce complex mechanics for higher tiers (not just numbers) and make those god kitten cinematics skippable. Obligatory reset included.

I am so tempted to be hyper critical on this post but I won’t, as it isn’t this single comment that has been frustrating but instead a culmination of posts in the CDI.

Suffice to say this post emphasizes why this CDI has been pretty good and not great. In my opinion there have been to many posts that have either not been well thought out or the poster has not taken the time to get educated in the discussion before putting pen to paper, and more specifically too insular in terms of goal resolution instead of thinking about the broader audience.

I will leave it at that.

I am still interested in continued discussion around your boss/encounter mechanic ideas, Rewards and ways in which the fractals could be evolved moving forward to provide new types of challenge.

Cheers,

Chris

You anger the Fractal community by resetting their personal reward level, nerf rewards given in fractals, make no effort to fix a particularly obnoxious fractal (dredge) and by introducing fractals with constant time gating (Mai Trin + cannon phases, molten facility + weapons testing area).

You let said fractal community simmer on these problems without even giving them the slightest bit of response to let them know you even give a **** and then when your dedicated fractal community tries to maybe give you a little nudge to ignore the terrible, completely pointless suggestions which aren’t even real problems (re-rolling and lore are two things nobody even cared about until people decided to invent the problem when this thread started and everyone got their frustrations about dredge out the way) you call out their post for being uneducated, insular (and what about those people crying about zerker nerfs? Aren’t those comments insular too?) and not thinking about the broader audience.

Well I tell you what, if you “fix” re-rolling, and for the love of god I hope you don’t fix a non-issue, that won’t be thinking of the broader audience, since people like to roll swamp and you’ll drive more people away from fractals if they have to worry about getting a terrible roll of something like ascalon > cliffside > dredge at level 50.

Though to be honest, this will probably be removed for whatever reason a moderator can come up with or just ignored and swept under the rug, because who even cares about fractals or dungeons, living story for the win. Let’s only fix slaying potions when they become linked to living story, GG ANet, well played.

EDIT: (3/9/14)
Here are some things this thread is NOT:
-A commentary on the effectiveness of the CDI.
-A catch-all of grievances against ANET.
-A demand (not even a polite one) that ANET compensate people who lost fractal levels.
-A debate about if reaching 50+ in fractals before the reset was an exploit, because it is against terms of use to openly accuse (rather than report) other players of cheating.

What it is:
-A discussion of a topic that was deemed off-topic in another thread (linked below).
-A notice to the community of how the events described below happened.
-A plea to Chris to carefully consider if this decision sets a good precedent.

Please think carefully before you hit “submit” on your response to this thread, and make sure it’s really relevant. If you’d like to discuss something else, please start your own topic. Thank you for your courtesy.

/EDIT

So…. this happened.

Chris Whiteside.6102:

Romo.3709:

Also, Chris.
I’ve been trying to avoid the question for a while now, trying my hardest to contribute to this CDI as much as the time lets me, while trying to push this question to the back of my mind. It never seem to be a good time to ask it, but then again I don’t think it’ll ever be a good time to. But you once said that you will give your opinion on fractal reset after you gave it some thoughts. I was wondering if you got anything for us. Will we ever be compensated for levels we lost and those over multiple toons? Just stating if it’s not even a viable thing for discussion anymore would suffice.

I am pretty sure Izzy responded to this question a few months ago. I will check with him.

Chris

Estriella Faerie.4029:

Chris Whiteside.6102:

I am pretty sure Izzy responded to this question a few months ago. I will check with him.

Chris

After his response, the subject was still talked a lot. And you then told us you would think about how we felt and get back to us.

Source (response from Romo to Izzy): https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/CDI-Character-Progression-Vertical/page/3#post3369056

Your response to Romo after this: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/CDI-Character-Progression-Vertical/page/3#post3369091

This post and Chris Whiteside’s follow-up (here ) is also of particular interest in this discussion.

Since it’s considered off-topic in the Fractal Evolution CDI, I thought I’d start its own topic.

I cant take it any longer. I will be playing teso when it comes out but I give up gw2…

When every single solo q is rank 10’s-20’s even though I am near top of lb…. is just wrong. not to mention the 10+ minute q times.

Idc what “stats” you want to put out but your lying. Pvp population isn’t growing it’s declining quickly. Why? you know why. 0 development.

After 2700 hours in pvp I give up.

GG from
Jindavikk, Elephantitas, Bowser Jr, Yogi Bear, and Thelonious.

thread merge with the other 2-3 afk threads. please bump those if you want to rant instead of creating a new afk thread.

~ new mechanic afki’ing for more than 10 minutes causes friendly fire – i’d use the hammer to send flying those who just stand there back through that exit gate.

ColinJohanson.2394:

We could do something like this, but when ends up happening is the work involved ends up being a lot of additional work to basically build something people play one or two times and then are done with it.

Isn’t this the exact definition of Living Story/World?

Which dot marks the expansion?

If this was an in game feature i would be impressed.

It has been a massive problem ever since the Living Story started that players were forced to go to websites in order to follow the story. ArenaNet acknowledge this was a massive problem and said they were working on an in game solution so players can keep track of the story in game.

“We’re currently working on a system that will better direct players through Living World content. Eventually, it will also provide story context for LW and other content types. The first phase of the system should be ready before the end of the year.
I am hopeful that some of the new systems that we have in development (the LW tracking system, journal tracking, etc.) will make it easier for folks to make sense of the long-term story." -BobbyStein

We should not have to go to a website to follow the story, get exclusive content, this should all be in game. This has been one of the top complaints of the living story and this Atlas only makes things significantly worse.

How about instead of hunting down secrets on this Atlas you allow players to hunt down those secrets IN GAME, creating content and immersing people in the story.

This Atlas tears people out of the story immersion, it only contributes to the massively growing problem of poor in game story telling, and is waste of developer resources.

This is a proposal written by Nike (the leader of DnT, not the other Nike who is posting in this thread) who can’t post because of his temp ban for the forum.

Proposal Overview

To bring back Twilight Arbor Forward Up Dungeon Path (or a shortened version thereof) as a Fractal Shard in order to utilize content that is no longer in the game (but quite popular among the dungeon community) in order to make Fractals more interesting and fun. This dungeon path can be used the same way the Molten Facility and Aetherblade Retreat were, a chance to relive temporary content. This can be a replacement for Underground Facility that will both be skill testing and more popular than UF

Goal of Proposal

• To bring back the best path of Twilight Arbor to the game
• To solve the problem of removing/modifying Underground Facility without having less content than we had before
• Adding a third tier shard whose completion time will be comparable to the others

Proposal Functionality

The Fractals were promised to be a place to relive temporary content from the game, and no temporary content is more beloved by the end game PvE community than Twilight Arbor Forward Up. It was the correct balance of time, challenge and fun. The end boss, as maligned as it was by a segment of inexperienced players, presented a good lesson in how to improve and succeed in PvE instances. With a slight modification (spiders despawning after a wipe) it would be perfectly fair encounter. Additionally, the water fountain and bee swarm puzzle is well constructed. Last but not least, the Vivenna fight is one of the best, most dynamic and challenging boss fights in the original dungeons outside of Arah.
Implementation: Begin the Shard in the room after the six archers have been killed and the group would pick whether to go up for forward, have the up door be open and forward closed. Continue the remainder of the dungeon path as originally constructed. Modify the last boss to have the spiders despawn in case of a wipe, and have his shake/spider summoning attack be an Agony attack. If it is reflected or blocked the group does not spawn spiders (as before) and additionally does not get hit by agony.

Associated Risks

• Masochists who actually like the Dredge fractal get upset that the Dredge was removed for a wholly superior experience.
• Players complain that Vivenna/Oakheart/Bee Puzzle are too hard. Clearly anyone who is progressing to high level fractals should be good enough to handle a dungeon path from a normal dungeon. A de-tuned version for lower levels could obviously be created.

Topic Title: Updates to Fractal Currency and items

Goal: Make fractal currency viable again.

Proposal Overview: Allow fractal tokens to be used for a variety of ascended related items.

Proposal Details: Since launch, there have been no significant changes to what can be obtained from Buy-4373. At the same time, Ascended gear, arguably, has its main use in Fractals of the mists. Currently many of our hardcore fractal players are sitting on tens of thousands of relics and hundreds of rings. Thus, we should add support for the fractal currency to acquire new items from Buy-4373. In addition we should add a new vendor which would allow us to exchange items. The amounts listed below are for demonstration purposes:

Add New Items to the Fractal Vendor

• Amulets – 2000 fractal Relics
• Earrings/trinkets – 1900 Fractal Relics
• Dragonite ore – 5 Fractal Relics
• Bloodstone Dust – 5 Fractal Relics
• Empyreal Fragments – 5 Fractal Relics
• Add a simple white 20 slot bag to the vendor – 100 Fractal Relics
• Add Fractal Weapon Boxes to the vendor. – 5000 Fractal Relics
• Add the Fractal Tonic to the Vendor – 15000 Fractal Relics
• Add Fine infusions to the Vendor. – 3500 Fractal Relics

Add a Currency Exchange Vendor to Fractals.

• Fractal tokens for laurels. 100 Fractal Relics for 1 Laurel
• Fractal tokens for Karma jugs. 1 Fractal Relics per 10 Karma Point. A Jug of 6000 Karma = 600 relics.
• Fractal tokens for Guild Influence. 1 Fractal Relic per 10 Influence pts.
• Ring Exchange: 3 Rings for 1.
• Ring Exchange: 1 Ring for 5 Pristine Fractal Relics.

Goal of the Proposal:
While other parts of the game have been updated, the fractal currency has fallen behind. Currently, and without much sense, you cannot acquire ascended related materials in the place where it matters most: Fractals of the Mists. We are in need of a change that will add support to our existing currency by expanding its base, while at the same time introducing a mechanism to exchange fractal currency into other types of in game currency.

“Dev: These patch notes are not real!” = “These patch notes are real but are missing a couple things”.