Guild Wars 2

FrownyClown.8402:

So like I could run a d/d elementalist then switch to s/f and die in that instead.

Well said.

style.6173:

Why are so many of you bitter about an ele team doing so well? Be happy that the class can win. No need for jealousy.

I think we hit the nail on the head, the other team was 5 ele’s.

Ryld.1340:

ARM.3912:

Nihilus.3015:

Mine crits for about 4k, got a rare 7k on a thief that was running away from me.

No, it doesn’t.

It’s completely possible that he could have hit 7k with full zerker gear with a crit with full ascended gear with Fury, 25 stacks of might, the right traits while standing right next to the guy while teleporting while the enemy thief has 25 stacks of vulnerability and is a level 1 upleveled thief in WvW with no gear on.

Completely. Possible.

^

Nihilus.3015:

Mine crits for about 4k, got a rare 7k on a thief that was running away from me.

No, it doesn’t.

So in the casual player section of the game, some ele’s won one fight…

Ok I guess that is worth posting after all the nerfs. Most classes expect to win a fight once in a while though…

MoooHOOOHHAHAHAHAAA!

HOD you are mine again at long last!

2.3k power and 51% crit chance is fine (crit damage is important too tho). It is all too subjective to say what is good. I can easily kill someone while doing 1k damage in some scenarios while I can’t kill them from critting for 7k in some others… so… meh

SilverUniverse.7103:

ARM.3912:

TGSlasher.1458:

ARM.3912:

TGSlasher.1458:

ARM.3912:

TGSlasher.1458:

ARM.3912:

Zumy.6318:

As everybody here is playing necro now, I feel like this is the right place to ask for this.

Well if the goal of your necro build is to kill ele’s, you really don’t have to bother spec’ing traits. They just drop.

Your doing something wrong if you can’t take on a Necro

You must be fighting condition necros.

There’s another kind?

That explains a lot about your posts right there. Without even fully stacking might a power necro can hit you for 4-7k with auto attacks. With real attacks it gets even worse and there are multiple combos you have to burn a cooldown to avoid. So your 12k hitpoint ele can talk the talk, but not much more than that when two auto attacks can flatten you.

It does, its says … “I don’t play WvW at all”, which is true. Meanwhile in sPvP power necros can’t stack that much damage so they don’t exist.

Edit:
That would be a nice 4-7k they would be hitting themselves with, say goodbye to your Death Shroud. Or a nice 2-4k with my protection, but again, I don’t play wvw.

Because of your elementalist reflect wall?

he’s either a staff ele with magnetic aura (very unlikely), or */f with magnetic wave (very likely) or he’s an armour-plated spy.

I wanted him to spell out his 3 out of 25s defense to an autoattack for the obvious issues that brings up.

TGSlasher.1458:

ARM.3912:

TGSlasher.1458:

ARM.3912:

TGSlasher.1458:

ARM.3912:

Zumy.6318:

As everybody here is playing necro now, I feel like this is the right place to ask for this.

Well if the goal of your necro build is to kill ele’s, you really don’t have to bother spec’ing traits. They just drop.

Your doing something wrong if you can’t take on a Necro

You must be fighting condition necros.

There’s another kind?

That explains a lot about your posts right there. Without even fully stacking might a power necro can hit you for 4-7k with auto attacks. With real attacks it gets even worse and there are multiple combos you have to burn a cooldown to avoid. So your 12k hitpoint ele can talk the talk, but not much more than that when two auto attacks can flatten you.

It does, its says … “I don’t play WvW at all”, which is true. Meanwhile in sPvP power necros can’t stack that much damage so they don’t exist.

Edit:
That would be a nice 4-7k they would be hitting themselves with, say goodbye to your Death Shroud. Or a nice 2-4k with my protection, but again, I don’t play wvw.

Because of your elementalist reflect wall?

TGSlasher.1458:

ARM.3912:

TGSlasher.1458:

ARM.3912:

Zumy.6318:

As everybody here is playing necro now, I feel like this is the right place to ask for this.

Well if the goal of your necro build is to kill ele’s, you really don’t have to bother spec’ing traits. They just drop.

Your doing something wrong if you can’t take on a Necro

You must be fighting condition necros.

There’s another kind?

That explains a lot about your posts right there. Without even fully stacking might a power necro can hit you for 4-7k with auto attacks. With real attacks it gets even worse and there are multiple combos you have to burn a cooldown to avoid. So your 12k hitpoint ele can talk the talk, but not much more than that when two auto attacks can flatten you.

12 seconds is too high as long as the other nerfs are still in place.

TGSlasher.1458:

ARM.3912:

Zumy.6318:

As everybody here is playing necro now, I feel like this is the right place to ask for this.

Well if the goal of your necro build is to kill ele’s, you really don’t have to bother spec’ing traits. They just drop.

Your doing something wrong if you can’t take on a Necro

You must be fighting condition necros.

TGSlasher.1458:

ARM.3912:

TGSlasher.1458:

Belorn.2659:

Is there a video of an staff elementalist doing massive amount of 1v1 and winning? I checked out the Xunleashed videos, but none of that is staff 1v1.

Give me a video of an staff Elementalist winning a 1v1 fight with a good D/P thief (like, has a build at least and know where the dodge button is). That would at least provide some proof that staff Elementalist can do 1v1 fight if you have the right skills to pull it off. Otherwise, sorry…

My friend runs Staff for sPvP and tPvP. It is a support build though, so not as effective at 1v1 (he will last a long time, but wont kill the opponent either).

My friend? Hmm, interesting.

Well MY friend says he is a dev from Anet and he said they intentionally nerfed the class into the ground so that people would buy gems to trick out their new toons.

Friends talk a lot.

Yea, my friend as in the guy that lives 2 kilometres from my house, is peved as much as I am about the lag and has been playing Staff ele in pvp since release (he also plays a S/D build with the Flame Axe as a troll build and plays a S/F signet build [my build]) even though it has been super nerfed. It was once the strongest build that an ele could spec into for support and bunker. Now its good for mid support only (or holding off for a bit).

Mine lives 2 miles from my house. He says that there was never a time when S/F was the strongest build at anything.

Averaelas.1876:

ARM.3912:

Averaelas.1876:

I will agree to stop putting holes in SM if someone on SF will mail me 150 ancient bones.

Yes, this is extortion.

Yes, you can choke on my kitten.

Yes, I’m gonna swiss cheese dat kitten.

OMG that is brilliant! This game would be so awesome if you could extort the other server for gold at any time. Want us to stop spawning? Make an offer. Want me to stop spamming /sit on your body? Make an offer. I am so glad I thought of this and posted it months ago…

ARM

Shut up ARM :p

All is one in ARM. This mighty body is my church. When I command your surrender, I speak with six billion voices. When I make a fist to crush your resistance. It is with six billion hands. When I stare into your eyes and shatter your dreams and break your heart. It is with twelve billion eyes. Nothing like ARM has ever come among you; nothing will again. I will take you to a hell without exit or end. And there I will murder your souls! And make you crawl and beg! And die! Die! DIE FOR ARM!

ARM doesn’t always speak, but when he does it is the greatest speech ever.

Averaelas.1876:

I will agree to stop putting holes in SM if someone on SF will mail me 150 ancient bones.

Yes, this is extortion.

Yes, you can choke on my kitten.

Yes, I’m gonna swiss cheese dat kitten.

OMG that is brilliant! This game would be so awesome if you could extort the other server for gold at any time. Want us to stop spawning? Make an offer. Want me to stop spamming /sit on your body? Make an offer. I am so glad I thought of this and posted it months ago…

ARM

How much longer is HOD going to keep hiding from GOM so it doesn’t have to face ARM?

Naab.4301:

ARM.3912:

The Game Slayer.7632:

Look dude, the class was NOT destroyed. I can still play my ele with fun! Yeah, it got nerfed pretty hard in terms of wvw roaming. But that doesn’t make it destroyed.

So you have video proof?

Hah, two can play this game…..Do YOU have a video proof backing your statements? :P

Of course I do:

Five minutes of running, couldn’t kill a single level 80 player. Feel free to argue how bad that ele was, I won’t mind.

Zumy.6318:

As everybody here is playing necro now, I feel like this is the right place to ask for this.

Well if the goal of your necro build is to kill ele’s, you really don’t have to bother spec’ing traits. They just drop.

The Game Slayer.7632:

ARM.3912:

Ian Kennedy.4563:

Are you serious right now? So what if it happened or not? The point is that it is possible as demonstrated by the Xunleashed video. This is a stupid argument. The nerfs happened, no one who plays an ele with any regularity is happy. There is nothing that fighting with each other will accomplish except to prove that you’re a bigger idiot than the other guy. Whether Anet hates the ele or not is irrelevant, if you don’t like the way the game is designed then don’t play it. No one wants to here about your boohoos over the nerfs.

*I have a level 80 ele before anyone accuses me otherwise.

Are YOU serious right now? Of course it matters if claims are real or not. Referencing a video from months ago does not prove a thing about the current class. It only proves that there is NO ONE currently doing well on an elementalist in WvW.

You can continue to make all the crazy claims you want, but the reality is you can’t show a post nerf video of an ele doing well because the class was destroyed.

Look dude, the class was NOT destroyed. I can still play my ele with fun! Yeah, it got nerfed pretty hard in terms of wvw roaming. But that doesn’t make it destroyed.

So you have video proof?

sephiroth.4217:

Leopardclaw.4258:

sephiroth.4217:

Leopardclaw.4258:

sephiroth.4217:

Pretty sure GoM has an SF spy.

1. We had mesmer hiding in Ogrewatch for 10 minutes, when he announced it in map chat, he got zerged at his exact location he gave us.

2. Before SF assaulted our keep in EB, our keep was drained on a bunch of arrow carts underneath supply huts.

3. Where ever we move, SF are there hiding in a corner waiting for ambush. ( I was convinced you had an awsome scout but point 1 and 2 disproves that.)

Also to the picture – Really?

Zerged because he was simply hiding in a tower that wasn’t his. And yes, I was there when it was called in map, and was one of the ones that fell half a dozen times trying to jump over to get a hit on him.

Oh, and please. You act as if this is your first time in the presence of SF. Choco bananas and print spam is kinda what we do once we get bored of repeatedly filling our inventories. :P

Honestly I don’t care. You get loot, I get loot, Ioj gets loot. It’s wvw. My reply about loot was to someone saying to GoM thx for the loot even tho what GoM recieved from Sf at that point in time was a lot greater.

Anyway, I’m done forum warring with you SF.

SF = No fun.
Ioj = great people, Fun and tactics all round.

I’m sorry that my single mention of loot to explain our behavior has upset you so. I did not realize GoM suffered so heavily at the hands of SF ambushes and farms. Good to know, I suppose.

If you say so man, I got infracted 6 times from getting involved with you guys telling me how I MUST feel so I guess what you say is the almighty!

We respect your sacrifice.

6 seems a little amateur though…

Lightsbane.9012:

Banzie.5248:

Lightsbane.9012:

Banzie.5248:

Lightsbane.9012:

TrainMuncher.7938:

Banzie.5248:

GoM Needed to not only zerg us with 15+ people, But they needed to portal bomb us at their north camp in their BL. 15v3 come on GoM. Wheres your ub3r l33t sk1ll5 we all hear about? ITs only 3 of us in an upgraded camps with 2 ballistas, You didnt need nearly that many people or the portal bomb to take it lmao.

Anywho, Seems the 3 R guilds or w/e failed to take a keep today, We’ll be sure to keep watching every NA morning for you guys and flip keep before you can in your bl

The footage we gained from that portal bomb was well worth it! <3

http://youtu.be/3iRuFUmEGHA

that’s more like when you’re the orb carrier in old WvW o_o

Reminds me, Who’s ready for the “Revised” Orb buff to come back to WvW?

ARM

ARM gonna be 1v50ing us all now? :c

ARM!!!!!

ARM (aka Heisenburg)

Sororita.3465:

I like GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLDDDDDDDDD!

=D

now please…back to WvW shenanigans!

If you really cared about GOM you would donate all that gold to the Supreme Commander ARM commander fund.

IMO, the lack of response is a clear response from the devs saying “People still play ele’s???”

DevonCarver.5370:

We’ve got thick skins, but I certainly appreciate constructive feedback. It’s also much more likely to receive a response both in the forums and in the game. So, as always, make good suggestions in a positive way and you’ll see changes. Cheers!

I would love to set something like this up at work for myself:

A) If I agree with someone and they are praising me, I respond to them.

B) If I don’t agree, or they are pointing out my MANY mistakes, I just ignore them and periodically say ohh I’m busy.

C) But the really smart idea is to say well if you have good ideas and you are super nice to me you might get your way! This is great because it forces everyone to be nice to you, despite the complete lack of accountability and responsibility and professionalism demonstrated in A&B. And even if they are nice to you, you just automatically imply their idea was stupid because you didn’t do it.

This is the best 3 step plan to avoid work I have ever seen. Are you Wally from the Dilbert cartoons IRL?

cheshirefox.7026:

yes, elementalists are practically perfect in every way
also, ArenaNet cares about its customers and develops accordingly
furthermore, this is a fair and transparent forum

LOL. It is funny (in the ironic way, not the haha way) that in order to post truth on this forum you have to lace everything you say with sarcasm.

Deneb.2697:

are you really asking this in the Elementalist forum?
obviously Thief, really. The Ele is pretty useless in 90% of the game

This^. Thief hands down. Ele is a dead class.

Yeah I miss the way the class was before it got nerfed into oblivion. All our nerfs should be reverted.

The class isn’t viable anymore.

Nordic Natedog.4360:

I got the biggest compliment while chilling on Kaineng’s BL today. After I dueled with a pleasant Yaks ele (who we agreed was a draw), I sat outside the south camp and just relaxed for a bit while some of her server mates took the camp. Once they finished several saw me and passed by as I obviously was just sitting there with my kite (plus we even acknowledged each other with some waves). Unfortunately 5 of them (1-2 were uplevels) decided to jump me. I say unfortunately but it was more for them. I wiped them clean but they came back to the camp shortly afterward. At which point they wouldn’t leave the camp towards me (who was still sitting on the western edge with my kite) and then decided to build a ballista. I couldn’t help but laugh with my guildies in guild chat over this. Now that is what I call respect. A lone mesmer keeps 4 guys in a camp plus them making siege to try and hit you.

Also a great shout out to our mini 5-man pug gang who played havoc on the Kaineng BL earlier today. Flipping several towers (including Dawn twice) in the process.

Typical GOM… owning 1v5.

ARM

Kubb.9764:

ARM.3912:

Translation: We don’t know how to play, so when we face GOM we roll with 15 v 1 odds or better. What’s a cool way to say we just toss out more players to make up for zero skill? How about we are “organized”.

You are facing a server full of PvE and PUGs.

Duh

Kronyx.2570:

pita spoon.5708:

ARM.3912:

Kronyx.2570:

Wow this RH guild from GoM never sleeps lol. They really have it for the SE corner of our BL….

Just an FYI for your server, but you could try to take supply camps back with less than 30 from your side.

they could also defend them with less than 30 people too.. if they make it there in time.

Believe it or not we never used to have 20-30 people respond to camps being flipped. The fact that you guys are constantly in our map, means there’s constantly people from our side as well. But I do have mad respect for RH, very annoying and good pvpers. And we can’t use a 15 man pug group to take your 15. You guys use combo fields, stealths, and portals properly. So most of the time we do need the numbers advantage. Of course when GoM does face an organized force from our side, they generally get rolled.

Translation: We don’t know how to play, so when we face GOM we roll with 15 v 1 odds or better. What’s a cool way to say we just toss out more players to make up for zero skill? How about we are “organized”.

LightningBlaze.4913:

ARM.3912:

Calae.1738:

Shockwave.1230:

I compare it to blink. Blink it just better due to recharge and stun breaking. Lightning Flash deals damage, but I don’t know of anyone who ever used the skill for offense.

You don’t?

Swap to earth, cast earthquake followed by a quick lightning flash to your target.
If both crit you’re looking at around 6k damage. While your target is laying on the ground, swap to lightning for a quick zap, updraft, swap to fire, burning speed then fire grab.

6k from lightning flash and earth 4? It is lies like that, that get classes nerfed. While we are at it, my air 1 does 2.5k, and my fire 5 does 19k, and my water 5 does 7k…

All ele nerfs should be removed.

Clearly he meant total dmg of both skills which is correct if you are not playing all bunker/healer type of ele.

2+1.5=6? Nope.

Kronyx.2570:

Wow this RH guild from GoM never sleeps lol. They really have it for the SE corner of our BL….

Just an FYI for your server, but you could try to take supply camps back with less than 30 from your side.

Calae.1738:

Shockwave.1230:

I compare it to blink. Blink it just better due to recharge and stun breaking. Lightning Flash deals damage, but I don’t know of anyone who ever used the skill for offense.

You don’t?

Swap to earth, cast earthquake followed by a quick lightning flash to your target.
If both crit you’re looking at around 6k damage. While your target is laying on the ground, swap to lightning for a quick zap, updraft, swap to fire, burning speed then fire grab.

6k from lightning flash and earth 4? It is lies like that, that get classes nerfed. While we are at it, my air 1 does 2.5k, and my fire 5 does 19k, and my water 5 does 7k…

All ele nerfs should be removed.

Any build is viable for PvE. Killing mobs doesn’t require anything.

style.6173:

Eles are in a good place right now, at least in WvW. They do not really need any other buffs. PvP is also ok. PvE likes needs some help.

First off, PvE doesn’t need help for a couple reasons. FGS in a corner kills most things, plus PvE is boring static play and if you can’t figure out how to kill mobs a buff wont help you either.

Second, WvW is not ok. The elementalist is the complete bottom of the food chain and might as well be renamed “rally bait” or “free bags” when shown to enemies.

Third, I don’t play PvP since i’m not a casual gamer. But I understand the mechanics and ele’s are slightly better off there than in WvW because the map is just simply smaller. But they still suck there.

RTL should be 1550 range, with 12 second cooldown. Anything else is just proof that Anet hates elementalists.

FirstBlood.7359:

Shockwave.1230:

Lightning Flash deals damage, but I don’t know of anyone who ever used the skill for offense.

Churning Earth > Lightning Flash to your target to avoid it getting dodged.
Earthquake > Lightning Flash to your target to stun it immediatly.

That’s just to name two offensive uses of it. I think it’s still a great skill. It can function as a stunbreaker without being one. Most stuns in the game have only a 3/4 to 1 second duration. Despite being stunned you can still use Lightning Flash to teleport out of danger. It doesn’t break the stun, but who cares with such short durations.

Yes, but since lightning flash hits for 1k, and churning earth hits for 7k, and the following earth 4,2, fire 5,4 hit for 12k; no one cares about the damage from lightning flash.

I played the ele for the mobility. Plenty of classes can reset fights; like the thief, engineer, mesmer, gaurdian, warrior, ranger, and necro. Using that as an excuse to kill off the elementalist class was utter nonsense. Using it as an excuse not to revive the class is equal nonsense.

Oh snap look at who just got hit with the ARM smackdown in SM.

Zero siege in the lord room, and you couldn’t make it in.. roflcopter

Lightsbane.9012:

Myst.5783:

Figures as soon as we leave GoM gets an interesting match up.

stay out of this thread.

Don’t be so mean! wvw leaving GOM is the reason we moved up! Thank them for ceasing to bring down our averages!

Serophous.9085:

Averaelas.1876:

Atleast this week we can have fun on the forums and have some good natured trolling without SF/FC/ET being sore losers on the forums and reporting every kittening post.

Also, We only ask that we’re allowed to have SM on Thursday for the Commander Ritual.

Only if we can have your first borns.

Gamers don’t complete the requisite actions required for first borns.

Also:

ARM

Somoe.3621:

Fire = AoE Burn
Air = AoE Blind
Earth = AoE Bleed
Water = AoE… heal? Why?

1. AoE Chill when you dodge in Water Attunement fits with what the other 3 Attunements do.

2. It would make the trait less of a must-have for every situation/build.

3. It would allow other traits in Water/Arcane to be buffed or reworked to make them more interesting.

That sounds like a huge nerf to a dead class.

I fail to see any logic. Just because they nerf something doesn’t mean something else gets buffed. In fact, for an ele it just means 3 more nerfs are coming.

Shiver.5903:

The disturbance in the Force created by this thread awoke an old power from the depths of GoM…

ARM

Lightsbane.9012:

Xom.9264:

ARM.3912:

BS – Stay in school.

ARM

Ah yet another fellow trying to talk the talk but cant walk the walk…. Nice troll agree to a GvG then not showing up, thought your were small man and down for the hard fights?

People like brah and you might troll Vs for agreeing to GvG, but if you wont even try for fear of failing you will amount to nothing in game and life, and thats some real talk.

thank you friend, for greatly dishonoring the foundation i helped create in Basic. stop acting like this and play the game. you’re good players, we get it. no one cares.

Oh snap and then hit with the guild dishonor!

Three times a bad night for you guys!

Xom.9264:

ARM.3912:

BS – Stay in school.

ARM

Ah yet another fellow trying to talk the talk but cant walk the walk…. Nice troll agree to a GvG then not showing up, thought your were small man and down for the hard fights?

People like brah and you might troll Vs for agreeing to GvG, but if you wont even try for fear of failing you will amount to nothing in game and life, and thats some real talk.

So first you get owned by us 3v5. Then you get owned by the omnipotent trolling power of ARM and your entire guild sits and waits.

Bad night for you eh bro?

FooDang.2498:

Every week we get these GoM haters posting on the forums

Every week I get new people to laugh at

Want a real laugh? I just got the entire BS guild to sit and pve for an hour.

Cross server whispers: 0
ARM:1000000000

BS – Stay in school.

ARM

This thread is making me yawn. Maybe add some more gifs?

I think everyone knows GOM is the number 1 server in the world. Why does anet stick us with these easy wins? And why doesn’t anet un nerf elementalists?

No drug tests at hq, that’s why!