Guild Wars 2

Nikkinella.8254:

They just need to unnerf our skills that they messed up. We should be able to heal in mistform again, RTL needs its original cooldown and range back, they need to unnerf our condition removal and healing as well. And there was no reason for them to remove the stunbreakers on purifying flame and lightning flash.

This^.

Anet: read it, do it, love it… well I don’t care if you love it, just do it.

Grevender.9235:

Flamealchemist.2681:

seeing no reply like eva of devs on the ele forum… i can say they dont give a kitten bout ele now…..they themselves roll as warrior or theif (majority)….so i guess they should shift+delete the elementalist profession!

they explained elsewhere that want for us a support role (they are gonna buff our support abilities)

And they explained elsewhere still that they want us to be a jack of all trades (and thus suck at all trades)

That is Anet’s secret new plan for ele’s. We did too much damage so now all we can do is toss hearts at our enemies and then we insta-die.

Daecollo.9578:

Ryld.1340:

Daecollo.9578:

Ryld.1340:

Daecollo.9578:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/elementalist/Static-Confusion-Build-testforme/first#post2846286

Try this build DOOM/GLOOMERs.

Perplexity does not exist in sPVP.
If you’re in WvW, you’d be more useful just staying in Staff.
Arcane Abatement can only be used near a ledge.
Perplexity only applies if you actually interrupt an action. Just stunning someone who runs through static field doesn’t apply Perplexity.

Perplexity is also pretty broken.

All interrupts apply Perp.

Only if they’re doing something when you interrupt them. Thus the term interrupt.

When is someone not doing something? Most people smash there face on the keyboard.

Only when they have picked up an ele conjure.

Or just take away all the nerfs that were put in place for no good reason.

Daecollo.9578:

How can they improve elementalist when all they read is DOOM/GLOOM?

The question that makes more sense to me is:

How can they NOT improve the elementalist when all they read is DOOM/GLOOM?

I think a better idea would be to delete conjures so they can stop distracting us with them. Ele nerfs need to be completely reverted and they keep tossing out meaningless things (like conjure changes) to distract you from the fact that the class sucks.

There are tons of idea posts, and they are all ignored… hence the doom and gloom. I don’t understand the confusion.

Yeah, conjures are garbage that ruin any chance of using any other ele mechanic… but then again ele’s are garbage too…

Just because it has already been said that the ele is a dead class doesn’t mean it should stop being said. Maybe the 9789th time is the one anet will listen to.

Yeah I’m sure those notes are real, since they don’t help the ele class AT ALL. But i’m sure next week someone will be like OMG this is the best buff ever while the rest of us are saying dude we can’t even using conjures because mistform and lighting flash are required to live more than 3 seconds.

Link to leaked notes?

edit: jk I spent the 2 seconds to look down 3 posts

16 second RTL or just end the game.

Lostwingman.5034:

I, as well, don’t like doing damage.

This^

No, just take away all our undeserved nerfs. There is no reason to invent anything new until that is done.

ps; WTH are they nerfing us over and over for if they think all we do is sit in 1 attunement????

Oh, you guys are switching attunements? You must be pro’s!

Sadly yes the ele is a dead class in WvW and PvP.

I too would like to play an ele without being dissolved by all the other classes. Please address imbalance by taking away all ele nerfs immediately.

dreztina.4820:

My first though when I saw the title was:

Self Immolation – You save time by killing yourself when attuning to fire.

This post wins the forum!

This is a great idea! I think we should do a dev mentoring session too. Probably before the ele mentoring though.

No ele can kill a competent thief. The best you can hope for is that a lower level ele walks by and he kills him first giving you time to get out of combat and port.

Azunai.5974:

Nihilus.3015:

Azunai.5974:

Nihilus.3015:

Ryld.1340:

Nihilus.3015:

Ryld.1340:

ARM.3912:

Nihilus.3015:

Mine crits for about 4k, got a rare 7k on a thief that was running away from me.

No, it doesn’t.

It’s completely possible that he could have hit 7k with full zerker gear with a crit with full ascended gear with Fury, 25 stacks of might, the right traits while standing right next to the guy while teleporting while the enemy thief has 25 stacks of vulnerability and is a level 1 upleveled thief in WvW with no gear on.

Completely. Possible.

I had no might and he didnt have vulnerability <

Oh. Then no, no you didn’t hit that hard.

Even though I did, ya

Okay, look. Nobody is ever going to believe you. And you have nothing to gain from this.

See, that’s the thing about the Internet. People’s always saying stuff. The reasons may be attention, self-gratification, trolling, and so on. Sometimes a poor sucker do believe. But realistically, most of the time people won’t. They won’t believe people like you until proof is provided. Welcome to the Internet.

tl;dr pics or it didn’t happen

Still did it. Its common in dungeons too.

pics or it didn’t happen

Still didn’t happen even WITH pics(not that we will ever see them of course).

Eslakon.8149:

Ehhh honestly the old RTL could be locked down by decent players. With the new condition meta I can see a lot of eles dying anyway even if they do escape with RTL. Cause.. you know.. conditions and such. Either is fine, I still escape just fine if i need to with the current RTL, just can’t use it for damage anymore..

There is no elementalist that can ever escape from my thief.

katniss.6735:

I’ll duel you.
That’s my story.

My guild is also [D-ERP]. Dashingly Elegant Respectable People. I shall duel you and destroy you guildy!

oooo that is good stuff

Kodiak.3281:

ARM.3912:

I agree. I am clearly the best candidate for the interview.

We should all come up with a fictional story for ARM’s Elementalist and submit it.

Yes! Best idea ever!

Kodiak.3281:

I recommend you contact ARM.3912

He would be the most useful in this scenario.

I agree. I am clearly the best candidate for the interview.

dreztina.4820:

D/D is absolutely terrible for 1v1 right now. If you’re good enough, you can kind of make it work against other mediocre builds, but it is in no way competitive with the currently popular builds. If you want to 1v1, go S/D and do OK, or even better, play a different class.

Yep, best bet for ele’s to win is to reroll.

cheshirefox.7026:

being a staff elem is about doing an elaborate song and dance that isn’t nearly effective in any way whatsoever
the ringmasters of this game dropped the ball on elementalist.. if i had to make an educated guess based on the events of the past year, i’d say they couldn’t care less to pick it up again anytime soon

I wish you weren’t so right.

Even with that change GoEP would still be a waste of a slot.

EchenSketch.9142:

silvermember.8941:

ARM.3912:

RTL should be 1550 range with a 15 second cooldown and no conditional. All healing should work in mist form. Every cantrip should be a stunbreaker.

This is not going to happen nor do I think it should happen.
Stunbreakers need to be split out but spread out properly. I hate having to rely on cantrips they are so boring except for mist form.

And Arenanet needs to fix our weapons, traits and elites. I mean Arenanet has a lot of skills from Guild wars 1 that are just begging to be updated and brought over to this game, I see no reason for any class that existed in guild wars 1 to have BAD skills when there is a whole game with skills to steal from.

He’s clearly kidding. It worries me that Anet thought moving a stun-breaker to Signet of Air was a good idea. Both Staff and D/D can achieve perma-swiftness and it renders that utility useless.

One more thing I’d like to say is about Staff Ele. My one and only quarrel with it is the lack of DPS. I think it’d be a great idea if they made it similar to Thief weapons or Ranger Shortbow, where the main source of DPS is from the auto-attack and the other skills are used as utilities. One can only hope though

No, I’m not kidding. I think other players just needed to learn to use CC to fight ele’s, and instead our class was nerfed into the ground, then nerfed again. Now the other classes have been buffed AND they finally figured out how to CC. So I think all our nerfs should be undone.

Erebus.7568:

haviz.1340:

Also:

Ele is a very high skill celling class, pro’s do extremely well, and new players get destroyed.

Pros rerolled.

this.
this
and should be more then a CLEAR sign that something is utterly broken when the best players reroll simply to be able to keep competing.. its a sad sight when that happens

I agree, this^

RTL should be 1550 range with a 15 second cooldown and no conditional. All healing should work in mist form. Every cantrip should be a stunbreaker.

Please oh please do not let them listen to this idea until they have made the class actually useful again first.

Fasyx.9347:

Hey,

I finally reached lvl 80 on my elementalist and I´m really struggling about upgrading her armor/weapons etc.

My main is a full zerk warrior and warriors are a lot of fun. A lot of hp, awesome damage(up to 40K with hundred blades) and a great variety of weapons to choose from(while only has staff, dagger, focus and scepter -.- ). I just cant see the advantage of playing an elementalist over my warrior, dont get me wrong I love the skills(visual) and light armor on female humans looks awesome etc. It´s just…on eles you need to know how to use your combos, when to use skills and how to combine them etc.(dont get really rewarded for investing your time into it), with my warrior I just stack might —> hundred blades and that´s it(. Sounds lame, but is still fun to me. Besides that I have the feeling, that elementalists arent really popular for dungeons etc., every time I ask “Should I switch to my warrior?” the answer is ALWAYS “Yes, please”.

Some of you like to call the ele “Jack of all trades”, yeah, I agree with that but I think that´s the biggest disadvantge. Why take an ele with you which can deal some damage, heal, support the group etc. when you can take a warrior(more damage), guardian(better healing), mesmer(better support) etc…and I´m pretty sure that there´s another class which even deal more Aoe damage than an elementalist.

Beside that I really dont like the pool of weapons we can choose as an elementalist. D/D you can only get melee, staff only distance(I know we have the biggest amount of skills, but still…)…not mentioning, that stakitten and daggers(beside incinerator) looking boring in this game(compare it to greatswords, swords or hammers…)

Any tips for me? Is the ele worth it? As I mentioned before I love the skills(visuals) and the light armor on female humans, but somehow I´m not sure to invest my laurels into my ele…

Lg

I think you are right, stick to the warrior. It does everything an ele does, but way better.

Rskin.4901:

Everyone knows that for the most part eles are completely unviable right now. I think a lot of this has to do with our weapon cooldowns. I know some of you are thinking, but that’s why we have twenty skills. However all the other classes have burst, mobility, and cc skills far below our current cooldowns. I think reducing these could bring back the ele as well as making newer builds possible

I disagree, I think undoing all the nerf’s would be the only decent starting point for rebuilding the elementalist class. After that other things could be considered.

SandySothe.7950:

ARM.3912:

SandySothe.7950:

styx.7294:

Sinester.3572:

=O i can post now!!!! let start whit the massive upscales the enemys have dam paxa leaves hod and now a lot of upscales walk arround mauhahaah and about GOM DAM u guys are weak as hell go to t8 allright and we made a honor attack in memory of server police he run away from us =( so we had to make a small honor golem rush for the man

Ah, I see. You’re Henge of Denravi’s Laethwyn. Well met.

I’ll ignore your servers bad trolls if you ignore our servers bad trolls, Styx.

Ohh yeah GT is that guild on HOD that runs from me while im solo. Hows it going GT?

Haven’t seen you around this week to run from, ARM.

Is it tough to see through your zergs of 80?

Chew Magna.4830:

I like it because I get a purple bubble from the combo field.

This^ times a million!

DiogoSilva.7089:

ARM.3912:

That would make a lot of sense if other classes couldn’t do the same amount of damage or more, WITH ONE ABILITY.

Tell me a single other profession that can do over 9k damage at nearly instant speed.

Are you kidding? Thief, warrior, and mesmer can do more than 9k with 1 button press. Necro, engineer, ranger, can do more than 9k nearly instantly with a combination of attacks. And I’m not talking about some crazy spec that no one ever runs, these are common things.

DiogoSilva.7089:

All cantrips being stunbreakers wasn’t a good idea neither. It made cantrip eles too strong.

About LF, it’s an awesome utility skill. The lower cooldown and the higher damage from the patch actually makes it stronger than before when used offensively. And even though it doesn’t breaks stun anymore, you can still use it to prevent bursts.

Let’s do a bit of math.
LF + Earthquake = 3-4k damage.
Switch to air (with air’s 15th trait) + Scepter’s #2 = 3-4k damage.
Sigil of Fire thrown there for some extra damage.

That’s about 9k damage that is nearly instant-cast. No matter how good your opponent is, it’s hard to react to this.

That would make a lot of sense if other classes couldn’t do the same amount of damage or more, WITH ONE ABILITY.

Frye.4608:

LightningBlaze.4913:

The same phrase over and over again “having the lowest armor and heath in the game”.. It gets old to see players using this same excuse to justify why they are performing poorly with the profession.

Did you miss the part where when you lose all your health you die?

Death is bad. Life is good! okay?

Well said. Some people will just never get it, or admit to it.

SandySothe.7950:

styx.7294:

Sinester.3572:

=O i can post now!!!! let start whit the massive upscales the enemys have dam paxa leaves hod and now a lot of upscales walk arround mauhahaah and about GOM DAM u guys are weak as hell go to t8 allright and we made a honor attack in memory of server police he run away from us =( so we had to make a small honor golem rush for the man

Ah, I see. You’re Henge of Denravi’s Laethwyn. Well met.

I’ll ignore your servers bad trolls if you ignore our servers bad trolls, Styx.

Ohh yeah GT is that guild on HOD that runs from me while im solo. Hows it going GT?

Colt.9051:

WhiteRose.6934:

GoM, this is why I miss fighting you guys. Such awesome fights tonight in your BL. If you were there it was intense.

GT as classy as usual, we had a pretty intense time fighting u guys tonight as well I’m hopefully helping to emphasize homeland defense more than anything so sorry if we might have been a bit zergy today but I wanted to get stuffs upgraded from when we got rolled earlier >.<

Also nice seeing Tetra working the necro. You and the other power necro in your group hit like kitten trucks… Thief didn’t help survivability either… Hopefully I can make an elite defense team someday to “entertain” the good roamers… Heh heh heh… >=)

Did you seriously just apologize for being zergy to an HOD player?

I think you would be better served by just spending your time trying to get anet to admit there is a problem with the class. Step 2 would be to tell them simple ways to fix it.

LightningBlaze.4913:

ARM.3912:

An ele kill my thief? LOL, yeah that’ll be the day. Some people have perceptions of the elementalist that are so far removed from reality that i can only conclude they are based on another game.

Are you within a tier 1 server? if so, let me make you that day.

No, I play on a server with actual skill instead of just skill lag. Bragging rights of saying “#1” aren’t there, but neither is the zerger chest thumping based on tagging the most players from range with pheonix…

OP you are completely correct. There are some people that like to pretend the class isn’t garbage, but it is. It was nerfed into the ground and then nerfed again. Don’t worry, those people who like to make wild claims and pretend they are better in this thread are known trolls and everyone already knows they can never back up any claims they make.

An ele kill my thief? LOL, yeah that’ll be the day. Some people have perceptions of the elementalist that are so far removed from reality that i can only conclude they are based on another game.

I see good, bad, and mediocre thieves all the time. There is plenty of middle ground, although considering how easy it is to play the class I would expect less of a spread.

Nikkinella.8254:

Why are you surprised? After all the repeated nerfs, we’re terrible right now. We never were the best class, people just thought we were OP because they were scrubs and we had unpredictability and we were pretty mobile. But now everyone is used to all eles tricks and learned how to counter us, like they should have done before screaming for us to be nerfed into the ground. But we still got nerfed anyway so we suck. I started out as an ele, but I’ve been spending more and more time on my guardian and warrior lately. They’re just so much better in every conceivable way. Anything an ele can do, they can do exponentially better. Seriously, just roll another class at this point. The difference is like night and day. After playing another class our weakness becomes even more apparent. The only problem is i’m quickly becoming bored with them. They’re nowhere near as fun as ele.

So true, ele’s are unplayable garbage now and the only path is to reroll. Sadly, other classes are just so easy to play it gets boring fast. On my thief I have to be fighting at least 3 to have any fun.