Guild Wars 2

You know, menace – What server are you on, anyway? I’m wondering if I’ve run into you or not.

Interesting. Closest I come to a “Condi-tank” set is the Melandru-equipped Apothecary/Shaman set I pack. Might have to try that idea, jportell.

Run that kinda build with heavy Stealth/Prismatic Understanding, Overlord. Trick your gear out with +Boon Duration runes. You’re walking around with nigh-permanent if not permanent Regen/decent access to Protection/Aegis.
Another option’s to run Melandru/Lemongrass, and shake off enemy Conditions quick as all hell.

Or 0/0/30/10/30, specifically for IP clutch-plays.

It’s ours, and you can’t have it! Bwahahahahahah!!!

Of course Mesmers aren’t specials … that part’s obvious, knBlackTemplar. After all, the entire reason for that suggestion is that Mesmers completely lack any kind of speed “Signet,” or in-built perma-swiftness hack. Now, for the abovementioned idea to be “workable,” you’d have to make Blink into an actual Signet.
Conversely, you could just change an existing signet. (Probably Signet of Midnight).
Depends, Sylvaranti, would you like +10% Boon Duration, or +25% movespeed?

That one’s been in for months, actually. Obnoxious, innit? (Especially when combined with ANet’s whacked Line-of-Sight setup…)

Not to mention, any Thief running Hidden Killer can honestly kitten on Crit Chance, and just crank Crit Damage.

And this is where I (almost) regret running a zero-stealth Evasion Thief. Unless you lot want trained on dodging bullets/arrows. As for warrior, poor midget’s still level 3 (admittedly the class I like the least).

I wish they freaking would … and change the Mental Torment Trait to … iunno … apply Torment?

You know what they say about male Asura with names ending in vowels …

Let me know how it turns out. I’ve done non-dueling condi builds before, but not with that EQ spec.

OooooOOOOoooo. Quaggans like this matchup!

We’ve all suffered some number/Guild losses. This might be pretty frigging even … killin’ time is here.

They should still fix the bleeding thing. Goodness, it’s like IZerker all over again

The theory is that ANet was worried about the ability to double-dip Swiftness from one’s Curtain. Meanwhile, Guardian’s Symbol of Swiftness stacks fine with other sources of the buff – it’s just Mesmer what gets the shaft.

This is the curse of playing a “T” rated MMO. Fact is, someone can pick any name/tag to get torqued off by. We’re Mesmer players, if it happens, we have enough brains amongst us to pick an even funnier name.

We don’t talk about Siegeraepist. He’s the most rigged Guardian in game. Bigger jerk than Gideon Graves, for crying out loud. I suppose I should be glad neither of the Siege Bros. is a Mesmer or Thief.

Definitely the Shattered Wings. Now, if I could only dye those boys … preferably purple, since they’re on my Mesmer.

Speaking of the concept of “superservers”
So, when are we going to match Dark Isle of Janthaven versus Sorrow’s Terrace of Denravi’s Crossing?

Don’t mind the random Ferg. Someone had to say it

Yea, that Guild’s gaining a bit in numbers. Always cracks me up, too.

I see your point, but at the same time … some of the Guild tags or names I’ve run into, makes me think that we might not have too much of an issue, unless some whinebag decides to feed the Drama Llama.
One quick example, from my server:
Guild Name: Reich
Guild Tag [SS]

If THAT has flown, for months, [OMFG] should be A-OK.

I’ve always found other Mesmers to be one of my hardest fights, because they know what I’m going to generally pull out. As for other classes, there’s a reason I’m working on all 8. /cue evil laughter

@ skcamow
Exceedingly well, especially in small group roaming or zerg support. I keep MR around in case I get focused before the stacking kicks some poor fool’s kitten. I figure I’ll get some use outta the Runes, before they’re QQ’d into the dirt.

I’ve been running a Condition/Interrupt spec:
0/20/30/0/20, Perplexity runes, Bountiful and Chaotic Interruption, both Manipulation Traits, Master of Misdirection, Masterful Reflection (or Illusionary Elasticity).
Weapons are Carrion (Staff/Scepter or MH Sword/Focus), Armour’s Rabid, Trinkets are Rabid (or Celestial, if I feel like a bit more straight DPS/Vitality).

Although, I have run the build Dhampyr posted … just haven’t tried it, post-Perplexity.
The two grimmson mentions are also solid, as is ChillRuption. Feel free to try any, or all of the above. At the least, it could act as a springboard for your own personal style.

We’re Mesmers … why “move” around the target, when we can teleport? Or … Too bad this game doesn’t have a “slow time” effect, it’d be funnier than HELL to have a weapon/ability that did such a thing.

Please do, ANet. You may see an upswing in Gem-skin purchases.

Eredon? Hah, we’ve probably killed one another plenty.

In-game name: Malegryne
My playstyle centers around WvW/PvE, mainly
Scholar works for me, I’m in this to know more about Mesmer
Time is variable … darn job runs me day half the week, night the other half. I’m usually up for whatever Wed/Thurs.

I would say that it was less that Chaos is “defending” anyone, and more that he’s asking folk not to feed the Drama Llama. I’d like to think we can all support that concept, Hexxen.

I think that’d be pretty darn smexxy. The +duration should make up for the loss in Malice. And, as a condi-spec, we’re already accustomed to killing slower than Shatter or Phantasm builds.

The only problem with making a guild for both concepts, is that some of us (me, for example) aren’t walking around with much space for extra guilds. I will admit, however, that the overall concept could definitely pump up the skills of all involved. Which, at least from my perspective, was the initial idea.

Great thing is that we’ve already got ways to converge the NA and EU sides. Hat’s off, on that one.

It was very usable, before Blinding Befuddlement took a nosedive. Now, I’d have to say it’s simply “OK”

It’s only a backbone for a certain group of builds. Namely Confusion/Glamour or Interrupt. And that, due to the numerous buffs to Confusion, in specific. As for alternatives, there’re always runesets like Lich or Nightmare, for more C. Duration.
Mesmer works well for Interrupt specs. (Or, I should say, “Daze.”)

Go figure, I mention the idea of getting all of us Mesmers together for a duel/sparring situation … only to find out that Chaos Archangel and Pyroatheist had been discussing a similar concept. So, let’s put the question out there … who’d be up for something of this nature?

I have an idea, actually. As it was with the old Mesmer get-togethers … perhaps we, as a forum, should start a duel/practice setup. Could be interesting as all hell, although I imagine it may be a pain to setup, considering everyone’s schedule.

Heh. Tell me about it, I’ve mainlined Condi or Confuser builds for most of my Mesmer’s existence. The problem I’m seeing, is that ANet has no idea what they want to do with this class, or Confusion in specific. Amp it (or Mesmers) too high, folk cry. Drop either too low, folk twitch out. As much crap as I give the devs for aspects of this game’s balancing … I must admit, I do not envy their position.

Honestly, I can see why our passive condi clear is so sucktastic. Fact is, with Mesmer’s in-combat maneuverability + defense potentials, it was probably judged to be too nasty to add “good” passive condition removal. With that said, however, I do believe ANet may wish to look at our active condi-clears, and perhaps adjust them. This current meta is extremely condition-spammy.

Actually, Dietzen … if you look at some of the chat log, there were complaints about Pyro using an “OP” build. However, that is in a fight, versus on the forums. So, I can see both sides of the argument on this thread, tbh.
As for menace. I will give credit for using a build most’ve pointed out as “not optimal,” and not punking out. Lose or not, that’s what really matters … having the conviction to stick to your guns. My only advice to you would be to relax a bit, and when you run into a build or player that gives you issues, think less about the arbitrary concept of “OP” and more about how to adjust your tactics to pull the win.

Considering how many issues folk have with the Perplexity Set:

• We’re never getting our Confusion duration buffed.
• Which is bloody unfortunate, because I agree with the rest of our guys, Confusion is supposed to be THE Mesmer Condition.
• What the hey? Why not bake something like Perplexity 6/6 in as an actual Mesmer Trait? Then swap the Rune’s bit to duration. I think that’s been suggested before.

I always roll with Arc Thievery. It’s saved my purple-lovin behind more times than I can count. Null Field’s also a good one to keep around.

Here we go with this buffoonery again:

1. First off, fellow FCers … we really can’t say frackall about a smaller server hitting us while we go toe-to-toe with a bigger one. Yea, it’s annoying as HELL, but we’ve darned well done the same.
2. Regarding Nuzt. Judging from the times when FC has managed to come in first during a matchup, most recently last week … why is there this stigma that we need
   SF —or any server-- to carry us?

Goodness, I can’t wait for an ET/FC/AR matchup. At least the three of us are typically even enough on number, that we could finally squash this kinda BS. Quit trollin us, Glicko!

That’s because, once you join the Purple Side, we’re rather … unwilling to let you escape.

raynn.9254:

Thieves still are the fastest, they can trait for +50% speed while in stealth

Unless ANet recently fixed Fleet Shadow, I’m pretty sure it was only giving speed roughly equivalent to Swiftness. I could be wrong, however – I tend to go for Might on Dodge, for my Thief. (She’s a pure evasion build.)

It’s a Mesmer plot. They got tired of being used as walking Utility Skills, and Time Warped your Guild Stash :P

You beat me to the first (and most obvious) 3, Gehenna. I also think -IIRC- that we can add the following:
Final Fantasy 11 and 14
Asheron’s Call, IIRC, still has active servers and is sub-based.

The problem, Prysin, is that that same utility:

• Pidgeonholes Mesmers into certain “desired” skills or build-specs.
• Accounts for a massive arseload of the “ZOMG, Mesmerz R OP!” whining, when most Mesmer players wouldn’t mind other classes having neat group utilities.

To be dead honest, I’m rather tempted to organize a Portal/Veilbot strike. Just to be a kitten. Cause it’s a bit hypocritical for folk to whinge about Mesmer being overpowered, but turn around and happily utilize a Mesmer’s abilities for their own advancement. It’s like crying about Backstab damage, and then keeping a zerker D/D Thief in your party. Meh.

Right, arjeldi. I never played GW1. Also never effed with a sub-MMO. Heard loads of stories from friends who did the latter, however. One complaint they typically had was that they felt rather obligated to play “keep-up,” due to expansions. Any “FUD” here is unintentional.

Now, I will agree on the RNG business. That is an area which could stand to see improvement. However, how far could it be improved without going into the territory of P2W/power creep?

arjeidi.2690:

Advent.6193:

Not to mention, the current B2P/microtransaction model makes it a lot easier to -say- leave for a bit, and then come back in.

Bullkitten. I’ve never had an issue with taking a break from a sub based game. Never. They don’t delete your account when you cancel your sub. Its as easy taking a break from a sub as it is from GW2. Stop spreading myths about this.

You could simply say that my statement was wrong. Getting “cute” about the subject just makes you look like you’re personally offended.

iFocus.3781:

I agree with you Advent. It is very nice to be able to take a few days, weeks or months off without feeling guilt. However, the reality is that cash must flow. And in order for it to happen, people have to realize that there is plenty of honor in paying rather than farming. Sure, farming proves dedication – but paying shows loyalty.

I’m not arguing the financial reality, iFocus. However, with subscriptions, folk feel “forced” to cough up the ducats. By comparison, an “optional” system works a lot like tipping at a restaurant. Sure, you’re gonna get stiffed on occasion, but -assuming an enjoyable experience- a lot of folk’ll toss in some extra, just because they’re having a good time.

The only “OP” thing is that 6/6 on ‘em. We know they’re gonna eat nerf, I’m just hoping the nerf’s a logical one. Either:

• Add a -say- 5 to 10 second ICD, or …
• Change that “on interrupt” to a % damage increase to applied Confusion.