Guild Wars 2

Knote.2904:

Cry of Frustration really needs a lower cooldown, it’s basically the condition version of Mind Wrack.

Either that or put some torment on Mind Wrack. So it can double dip like power builds can with CoF.

I said that last bit ~ a month ago. It’d serve two purposes:

1. Torment access on something besides Scepter.
2. Logically, you could just change Mental Torment’s %dmg increase to Torment.
   Any long-termer Mes knows that MT/IP are what makes for really hellacious Mind
   Wrack, as things are now.

Necro? Now there’s an example of bad balancing. It wasn’t Dhuumfire Necros needed, it was the ability to not get knocked around like bowling balls. And, then, the DS overflow “fix” … /shakes head

Considering it’ll more than likely bring some sort of nerfing, I’d like to think it’d also finally bring folk learning to shut the kitten up, RE: complaining about Mesmers. Get another target, already. I hear those Guardians are kinda buff …

I would have to hand it to Mesmer. Asura sword-techs are pretty BA. Go Femme-sura
for the fun quotes.

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Advent.6193:

Heh … how many times do I need to use the Gomnomberry Pie recipe this year? I swear, you lot follow us around like Overly Attached Girlfriend

GUNSLINGER SHOOTOUT DUEL GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Didn’t I just mention this happening last week, on yer P/P thread? Guess I gotta dust off that wacky Asura gal. Muhahahahaha!

Hoping they just fix the buggers. Swap that “on interrupt” to a +dmg/duration, or just give the current 6/6 active effect a 5 or 10 second ICD. Either’d work, but not make the set weaksauce.

Heh … how many times do I need to use the Gomnomberry Pie recipe this year? I swear, you lot follow us around like Overly Attached Girlfriend

Persisting/Mender’s/Warden’s are the “Big Boys.” I occasionally use Shattered Conditions or Harmonious Mantras. As for your gear, I can also see a 20/20/0/0/30 or 10/30/0/0/30 Shatter spec.

Not that simple, Pyro. More like: confuse the crap out of the enemy with chaining between IS/S. Return/P. Whip or FS/Feline Grace-enhanced dodging. Also add Withdraw as preferred heal, Roll for Initiative/Shadowstep as utils. SB as an off-weapon set, specifically for I. Arrows when needed.

EDIT: I would post this before you posted that vid. I’d guess he’s running something like: 25/0/0/25/20, Superior Lyssa set, full or at least mostly Zerk EQ.

Honestly, you’re missing an ability considered a staple of most Glamour-focused builds. Namely Domination 20: Confusing Enchantments. IIRC, I do believe Kylia’s Triforce spec (a successor to Glamour-spec) runs 20/0/0/30/20. It uses Warden’s Feedback/Cry of Frustration/Masterful Reflection to apply more ways to “backfire” an opponent’s attacks.

One I’ve played with recently is 20/0/30/0/20, where I forgo the Warden’s bit in favour of Bountiful/Chaotic Interruption. It works reasonably well, the slower Glamour application is offset by additional toughness/boons/condition application. Not to mention a bit of extra damage from Halting Strike procs.

I completely disagree. Thief has a crap rep because of how ANet designed their Traits.
Shadow Arts as a Trait-line promotes heavy Stealth abuse. However, this doesn’t mean that all Thief players are 2-spamming tryhards. Even a pure Evasion-spec Thief, in the right hands, can be an absolute monster. And you’ll SEE them coming to kill you.

For crying out loud. It’s not as if “fighting” is the same for all classes in game.
What, d’you expect a Thief to facetank, like a Warrior or Guardian does?
Not going to happen, bro. Not to mention, any Thief stupid enough to
spam H-Seeker on a full, or even half Health target … they deserve to get rolled.

As for Stealth. Honestly, I’d not be adverse to making it unable to stack. However, to actually do that, we’d first have to alter Thief’s durability/evasion. Since, as it is,
you drop Stealth’s efficiency, you limit a Thief’s survivability.

Also, we have CC and NPCs in WvW for a bleeding reason. Altering either of those things will change the entire way the game mode functions. And not for the better.

It’s not like the Asura couldn’t pull that one off. They’re already capable of mind-to-machinery interfacing, as it is.

Well, the 2-hander weapon bit’s something ANet should’ve fixed by now, tbh. Every other stat on said weapon type is 2x the amount of a 1-hander. Stands to reason Sigils should be the same … just use the same base limitations as a 2-weapon Sigil set would use.

C’mon, guys – I’d like my Earth/Agony Staff, please.

The way my Guild’s been doing it:

• Break your forces into multiple parties.
• Each party’s led either by a tag, or by target-call on its leader.
• Diverge
• Kill
• Profit

Unfortunately, I’ve got the world’s worst sense of timing, and keep blipping into game right after everyon’e squaded up, so I run around soloing objectives when possible.

Why not: Earth for sword, Doom on pistol, Hydromancy on focus/scepter

We can only hope. Perhaps she, and those like her, are why Malyck hasn’t reappeared.

Secrets Bookahs Were Not Meant To Know? I mean, seriously, Scarlet might’ve just viewed the ingame equivalent of an Old One. Hell, the Twisted look equal parts H.G. Wells Martian Tripod, and something H.R. Giger probably cooked up in his young days.

Dwayna for Rabid trinkets. Also, the missing Rabid armour can be purchased in WvW. Temples only have 4/6 pieces

This could be plenty fun.

That’s the only rub, to be honest.

Do NOT give them ideas, Nuka.

Unfortunately, that would be an insanely broken Elite. I’m generally condi-specced, and I can imagine the crap I can toss out with that many Staff clones, plus a Warlock or 2. Let alone a power spec with multiple Mirror Blades and a couple of Zerkers.
Now, if Master Illusionist instead:
*Granted your current illusions your Vitality, or even a reasonable fraction thereof …
—and/or—
*Allowed your illusions to duplicate (or inversely mirror) your general movement patterns …

That might successfully straddle the border between “OP” and just “BA as all kitten, but workable.”

Also, our Elites don’t suck, with the exception of that Moa business. It just doesn’t fit.
We need an “Illusion” or “Mantra” Elite, to even things out, IMHO.

Because … iunno … learning to defeat your enemy is too much bloody work, or something. I miss the “Old School” gamer mentality, where getting yer kitten whipped meant you came back with new tactics. Instead of “Waah, this is too hard, plz nerf it!”

Don’t jinx us, Solstice. I still want the ET/FC/AR matchup.

The simple reason that we, all Mesmer-addicted players, can barely agree on what eventual direction we’d want to see the class take. Let alone:

• Publicly released patch discussion would then involve every forumer what cares to state an opinion
• Then, our opinion clashing with both that of the Devs, and the sillies who think Mesmers need to be nerfed further.

Don’t get me wrong, I’d frigging love public discussion, RE: potential patches. But, from a business perspective, or a “sanity” one … this kind of thing will probably never happen.

It could be worse. The Phantasm could be as ill-omened as IMage.

We also have a tendency to survive every silly, half-baked nerf ANet tosses at us. We’re just not happy about it happening. Who would be?

Also a valid concept. They could always be a splinter of the Soundless, at that.

That’s the thing. Most aren’t arguing the concept of “tuning down” the Perplexity Set.
Hell, we frigging know they’re going to get nerfed. My main concern is that there’s:

• Bringing ’em down “enough”
• Making them useless as all get-out.

Manage the first option, and even my Mesmer-maining self has no problem. Just don’t pull the “Typical ANet,” and bloody neuter the darn things.

Also, regarding JaeKeun’s comment:
And how many people do you know what use the Grove set? Don’t get me wrong, I’m sure folk use ‘em, but I doubt it’s that prevalent. Stuff like 5% triggers on Rune abilities/impossibly long ICDs make the Runes with those less used. Another example, how many people bother with the 6/6 on Lich?
Meanwhile, we have stuff like Rata Sum, with nice Precision boosts and a 50% shot of -IMHO- one of the best Condition racial skills in game. I don’t understand, or pretend to know, what ANet’s design logic is.

Indirectly, I would say. Unlike -say- Faolain or Cadeyrn, a “Pirate” Sylvari’s not robbing and murdering for a “greater reason.” They want money, and they want it now.

ukuni.8745:

I’d like to know how many of the people defending this rune or telling people to l2p are actually running this rune now, I am and I say it needs a nerf

Here’s the problem, and we both know it. By a “nerf,” anyone sane would think something like:

• #6.) ICD of 5 or 10 seconds.
  This would be something fair, but still potent.

What ANet’s heavy-handed selves would do, is more like:

• #6.) ICD of 60 or 90 seconds.

Meanwhile, they should’ve honestly just went more along the lines of:

• #6.) 15% confusion damage/10% duration

Which would allow for some stacking via #4, sure. But wouldn’t create 10 second Confusion timers. I understand they’re trying to push this whole Mesmer as Interrupter thing, but if they wanted Confusion on Interrupt, there’s already precedent for such things to be done Trait-wise. Meh. Meanwhile, they shagged the original Glamourbomb in the wrong way. Confusing Enchantments lacking a target limit is what made G-Bomb so hellish. So, why not fix that, instead of wrecking multiple Traits, when you’re the ones what made ~5 Traits that focus on Confusion as a Mesmer attack Condition? Oh, right … heavy-handedness … (tears out own hair)

I never thought I’d say this, considering that Mesmer’s the class that brought me to this MMO. But, with the way you PvP folk carry on about Mesmers, I sodding well WISH ANet’d just delete the bleeding Profession already. Seriously, you
lot will never be satisfied until Mesmers are completely shafted, entire. And since ANet’s so frigging yandere obsessive about this game being an ESport, it’s honestly best this way.

The part that amuses me, is that you’ll simply move onto the next target Profession that is perceived to be “OP.” So, tell me, who’s next on the chopping block, eh?

How’d I know this would happen? Oh, right, Confusion’s the frigging bogeyman around these parts. Now, I’ve always maintained that Confusion shouldn’t proc on any non-offense action (non-damaging dodges/attunement swaps, etc.). Past that, let’s be honest here. Those Runes help out Mesmers, sure … but Mesmers wouldn’t need that manner of “help” if folk didn’t QQ for months about Confusion. In addition, Perplexity sets help out any Condition-friendly class, tbh. Let alone Condition-specced folk who can Interrupt.
In short, they’re an option. One that anyone with the in-game loot can use. And the truth is, we -as players- rather need more options, not less.

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“Magitech Rifle, make my Monster grow!”

Well, we can toss conditions on interrupt. Immobilize for free, upon interrupt; followed by a random choice of chill/blind/cripple. We also can gain might, plus a random boon. Halting Strike was heavily improved, and is now something other than an unmitigated joke.
My only concern is that they seek to move us to an interrupt-heavy setup, but arguably have not -yet- completed the necessary retuning of our class. As such, it’s still a bumpy ride, presuming that this is what ANet’s setting Mesmer as, going forward.

I’ve said this one before. If we were meant to have a “ranking” of out-of-combat speed:

• ANet coded themselves into a corner by changing all move Signets to be 25%
• They should’ve instead ranked them by “desired” speed class. For instance:
  1.) Assuming Thieves are the “masters” of speed, then they would pack 25%
  2.) Other classes could then run at -say- 10-20%
  3.) This would have freed up the ability to toss an OOC speed boost to us and
  Guardians, without all the whinging about “OP.” At least, one would hope.

We were smacked purple with the confusion/blinding befuddlement hit. At the point of blurred frenzy eating a double beatdown, I’d argue that we’re a horse that has been beaten to death, unkindly raised from the underworld by a local Necromancer, and are currently strapped to a stake, ala Joan of Arc.
At this rate, there are probably two class mechanics left to nerf into the dirt: Shatter and Phantasm. Judging from at least one thread over in PvP land, I’m betting Phantasm’s getting burned next. Worst part is, all they’d have to do to “nerf” it would be to disallow stacking from Empowered Illusions and Shattered Strength. This would bring the damage down, while still allowing for multiple ways to craft a Phantasm-centric build. I won’t hold my breath for that kind of common sense, however.

Then we’re not at odds. I don’t make a habit of (seriously) giving folk crap for gear/spec choices. Fact is, I run about 90% WvW/9% PvE. As such, my own loadouts tend to go more towards in-zerg survival. If someone can run zerk and survive, more power to ’em.
I just generally suggest survivability for folk starting off fresh.

Considering that his center stage role wasn’t something he directly asked for, I rather doubt Traeherne has some dastardly scheme afoot. Although, if ANet went that route, I’d be entertained, if only for the reason that they spent a good amount of effort in trying to play him off as the poorly-socialized good guy.

The lack of shoes is an illusion. She’s a Mesmer, and an NPC one at that. Those NPC Mesmers are frighteningly powered up … I’m a bit jealous.

Heh. And let’s be honest here, PAX lacking a Mesmer contingent hinges heavily on the amount of nerfing done to Mesmers because of ANet’s insistence of balancing an entire game on the whims of its PvP groupies. To be honest, I began to lose faith in their balance team months ago. We’ll have to see if said faith is restored. /shrug

This is the issue, colesy, and it’s all in your head. You perceive that anyone without a direct preference for Zerker spec is knocking Zerker, and thus “bad.” Your posting history tends to reflect such. Fact is, neither of our preferences are anything past a suggestion to others, in regards to equipment choices.
The difference between us is simple: I readily accept that my preference towards Condition builds is merely a preference. You act as your way of doing things is the only valid course. All I’m pointing out is that the situation is nowhere as … rude
as you’re making it out to be.

That would make too much sense, Carighan. And we both know it. For what it’s worth, I wouldn’t mind that outcome in the least, since maybe then, the class can stop being the whipping boy for mass QQ and Nerfs.

We could only wish. But they’re so focused on the idea that Mesmers are OP. It doesn’t help that, no matter how much Nerfbat we get to the collective face, folks still cry like spoiled brats about the class as a whole. Meh.

There’s another option. Namely, that they quit giving in to QQ. After all, I’d bet many who play the profession do so because of the “magical duelist” business. These are people who put time into the game, and money into ANet’s collective wallet.

On land:
Jaguar for main. I freaking love that little guy.
Usually Marsh Drake for secondary, but that slot switches.

Underwater:
Shark for Bleeds and damage
Armor Fish or Jellyfish for defense/CC

Sure, I say something in a jesting fashion, and I’m automatically a grammar-impaired mocking arseface? You’ve seen my posting history, I would assume. You (should) know better.

Be assured, if I honestly wanted to call anyone braindead, I simply would. I’m not a person who likes to waste time, or mince words.

I hate to say it, but that sounds like current Mesmer in pvp. And the pvpers are still whinging about Mesmers. Particularly that Phant-spec needs a ~20% damage drop.
You’d think these so-called “pro pvpers” never learned about Dodge, let alone extra Dodge from Sigils of Energy. I am disappoint.