Guild Wars 2

So now that you know, do it with a Guardian free map.

Okay since others brought it up now.

YES this is what my only Teq kill used. I accidentally found out about it during TT because I was running a symbol build on my Guard with no clue that it was broken and a bunch of us nearly killed Crimson in one burn. I offered not to run it in fact because I don’t like exploits much.

So everyone screaming at me about what a crap player/human being/idiot I was because they were so l33t and could beat buffed Teq has likely been benefiting knowingly or unknowingly from this “press 1 and AFK” Guardian bug. Irony at it’s finest.

I don’t think people using it should be banned though – a sect of the whole hardcore experience (but not everyone, so don’t go there) is about using exploits and min/maxing to run through things faster, easier, and to nerf actual difficulty. This has been a field day for those players, all that fast free loot for pressing 1111. It’ll be patched out just like Teq and others will be tweaked.

I got my first Teq kill since parch.

I stood in one place and spammed 1. So did everyone else. He melted like butter because.. well I’m not going to spoil it or encourage it but I’m real sure others are using it too.

For days, I’ve been belittled, told to learn to play, told I’m trying to ruin a challenging boss, told to get good, called a scrub, a loser, a whiner, someone trying to ruin hardcore elite content, accused of afking and pressing 111 to win at all bosses, and other crap.

Today, I facerolled Teq for the first time ever instead of fighting him head on in a way that made me move, dodge, jump, and use skills. This Teq can be killed by a bunch of people AFKing and pressing 1.

I can’t even anymore…

You wanna know why there’s a ‘silent majority’?

Because if we say anything, anything at all, we can expect things like this:

xiao.2614:

and then these kitteng crying biches coming to tequ at same time with me and stay afk

delete this game if u think there is ANYTHING HARD HERE

its most SOFTCORE mmo ive ever played

OH MY kittenG GOD

These forums are a cesspit, I’m sorry I actually tried to have any discussions here. Say anything about this content needing a slight tweak or a little more polish and you are swarmed with personal insults from what I assume are hardcores, the implication that you are an ‘afking n00b who wants to win pressing 11111’, "L2P’, and other vomit that flies out of these people’s mouths instead of an actual discussion of mechanics. And props to those who did discuss mechanics but you get shouted down pretty easily by these other types. You can’t win. You could be Wooden Potatoes or Dulfy and they’d still call you an AFK auto attacking n00b who wants free boxes, it’s all black and white and I’m just done with it.

That’s why there’s a silent majority, no one wants to come here to discuss a broken mechanic and be put down by ten strangers who have nothing better to do with their lives.

Hmn. I do enjoy the fact that now people do have to melee Golem instead of pressing 1111 from range to win but I understand the frustration. The entire ‘crit spot’ idea seems to be comically flawed on several large bosses leading me to agree with another poster that this is a bug.

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

Agyaggalamb.4796:

Paulie.6215:

I would LOVE an open pvp zone. Ganking pve’ers would make me soooooo happy.

This is the attitude why the the PvE crowd won’t ever touch PvP. kthxbai

These are the people I get told do not exist by the people who favor open world PvP, for the record.

I get told they don’t exist either.. then one always comes along and posts. It’s like clockwork!

I’m proud of you.

My multiple runs have not ended that well leaving me irritated and upset because Teq was the way I dealt with my daily anxiety. I don’t know what to tell you, the maps I’m getting into are failing, people are leaving because first burn doesn’t come quick enough, maybe you’re just fortunate and RNG is pooping on my head every last time, who the kitten knows but it’s not working well.

Well, having done Golem MK2 I can now say….

…that this doesn’t matter if you melee him.

Zerg needs to get in close or AoE and dodge out of the electric fields. Expect to still die a few times though.

BTW.. I was in the group that first beat Teq in September of 2013 on the TC server and I never have asked for Teq to be ‘nerfed’ until now.

No I don’t. Everyone needs to be doing their best at Teq but no one and I mean no one can be perfect when you’re in a random PuG. Who are these hordes of people who just press 1111 at Teq? I really want to know. There are maybe 1-5 people I see who AFK and die but.. who are these mystery 1111 pushers? I don’t see any of them posting here.

And Teq was a faceroll for a year? Uh… no… sorry but no. That hasn’t been my experience, Teq has always been a challenge to organize and a rare boss where standing and spamming 1111 did not work. That’s why I liked it but I’m seeing groups where people are trying their best fail miserably and it’s turning toxic… kinda like some attitudes here.. hmn…

Of course, if you’re so hardcore that everything is a super easy faceroll for you, you know the drill – naked, solo Teq, I’ll be waiting to film it.

You can’t solo Tequatl unless everyone is as skilled as you are, you fail.

I’m not complaining about having to use all my skills, I’ve had to use them at Teq since September 2013. I don’t want a faceroll 1111 boss.

I have yet to see Teq succeed post-patch. It needs a slight tweak, not a complete nerf.

Who the hell here is complaining they can’t press one to win and afk? I’m looking for it because it keeps getting pointed out. Still not seeing it.

Who AFKs at Tequatl? I honestly want this answered. Who here that has an issue with the 2x health actually spams 1 and AFKs at Tequatl since the Sept 2013 patch? Because it’s not me, I’ve not been able to AFK at Teq since Sept 2013 nor would I want to. If I want press 1 to win, I’ll go fight the Fire Ele. I’m willing to bet it’s not 90% of the posters in this thread either. So why is that is the bullkitten that is thrown out – that we want a faceroll AFKable event? One extreme or the other?

NO

50% health increase instead of 100%, tweak the crit box. That’s it. The zerg will have to learn not to range, turrets 1-3 will need to cleanse poison. Good lord, no one wants Teq to roll over and die after two hits.

Failed again.

Also another example of “it doesn’t matter how skilled one person is” – I stood under him as much as I could but 7 overlapping poison fields didn’t exactly make that easy and people leaving because we didn’t go into first burn fast enough didn’t help either. That crit spot isn’t easy to see or hit – that needs a tweak for sure.

No I don’t want to “faceroll” Teq. I haven’t facerolled Teq since Tequatl Rising dropped so I don’t know why anyone would think that. I’m one of those “weird” people who doesn’t like bosses where you 11111 your way to victory.

Eh.. I wouldn’t mind an area like that so long as I was never required (no map completion points, no hero points, no personal story, no living story) to set foot in it and participation was optional. I know some people love PVP and others love griefing people to ruin their enjoyment of a game (if you’re the latter, you need therapy – not more PVP) so I have no problem with an optional high risk area.

So you like want a map that’s PVP only? That’s fine as long as it’s not required for anything PVE and all the toxic gankers can stay there.

Don’t make it required for PVE and I’m cool with it.

$60 for GW2 in 2012, $50 for HoT, about $100 in extra character slots (got some on sale), and $100 in gemstone items, make-over kits, etc.

They just need to find the mid-ground between faceroll and hardcore, that’s all.

Yes. It’s called Triple Trouble.

Zerk ele dies with the first poison field in that spot, just saying from experience.

The solo comment is to those who scream “GET GUD” or say everyone complaining must be bad without realizing Teq isn’t something that one skilled player can win. So I can be God of Guild Wars and still fail because Teq is an organized event.

Oddly enough, one bad player CAN cause a group to fail if they are on turrets or defense or afking where they shouldn’t be.

I would LOVE to see new mechanics for the Sh-atter-er personally. Not buffed HP but more like Claw so you can’t stand and press 1111111 and maybe you can even get the achieve instead of him just dying.

Karka Queen could use some spicing up but careful, mild tweaks. Maybe some more moves. People already hate Southsun and Karka will already wreck your day as is. That’s why people stick to groups there.

But the thing you all need to remember is this – most of the player base are casual players who play for fun, not hardcore min/maxers. The rest of us fall somewhere in between them and the l33t hardcore4lyfe players. They don’t want something that frustrates them or requires perfect levels of skill (which is why they avoid TT). Also, everyone (especially the hardcores) will find a way to exploit whatever content is brought out and if they can’t and if it’s time consuming, most will abandon it in droves. There was a time that Teq was very very dead and iffy and I don’t think anyone wants that back or to see it happen to other bosses.

Zerk gear? I’ll be dead in two seconds because I can’t run glass canon super well with three poison fields on top of me. I actually tried it, I was a one hit kill. I do good with zerk on defense though.. but that doesn’t help the 200% HP issue at all.

So standing on the box is out? Actually, I don’t mind that. I like having to watch the electro zaps and rush in when they’re gone. Sometimes I just do that anyhow even if I’m on a toon with proper range.

Teq is rewarding? Nah. The reward I got out of Teq was fighting him. 100+ fights and only got the hoard once. Teq was part of my relaxation/grounding strategy. The organizing, the waiting, the actual fight, the great feeling after 10-15 minutes of NOT standing around pressing 1111 after we won – all made me feel great and helped my anxiety.

Now it’s just anxiety and frustration. Bluh.

But to answer your question – no. When I started in November 2012, world bosses were difficult but not impossible. Maw’s stages lasted more than 30 seconds, Fire ele was a real kitten who didn’t go down in 10 seconds, and there was ample chance to actually get the achieve from the Sha-tte-rer because he didn’t die easy. Where are the buffs on THESE bosses?

Find a guide, it sounds like a few of you are still doing it and need mesmer help. If anyone here can help these folks, step up. I know there are mesmers who do Sharkmaw daily – finding the Karka in the JP isn’t terribly awful with a guide there to help you and portals to avoid the falls.

“Teq is fine!” Says the player with 100 friends who are all hardcore like he is.

I’ve managed to crit Teq on a toon who had a low crit chance but it’s not the easiest thing. Likely some tweaking with the hit box would fix this.

And do I have to say it again? You cannot solo Teq. It doesn’t matter how hardcore you are or how you hate “disgusting filthy casuals”. So anyone who goes LULZ GET GUD or LULZ CASUALZ kittenING is missing the point. You could be so good that Dwanya personally kisses your feet every time you log on and Zhaitan serves you morning coffee, if the other 90+ people aren’t as godly as you – you fail and the problem is that the buffs to Teq are a wee bit unbalanced. Teq is an open world boss who should be difficult but below TT in terms of difficulty. TT? Yeah I haven’t tried that since I got all the achieves so I have nothing to say. I liked TT’s mechanics but I’m not in a guild that does it. TT is one of those things I will say is for hardcores and should be left alone. But Teq..

NO I am not saying revert Teq so it’s a faceroll. I watched Teq melt after patch and thought “Ouch.. they better tweak this..” Double heath was too much though. 50% more health might not be. Tweaking the crit box would help. YES turret ops will have to be more vigilant about clearing poison so melee is possible. An extra five minutes on the timer might not be a bad idea. I’m not seeing where anyone is saying “Make Teq so easy that I can just spam 1 while doing my taxes plz” but I do see folks going “Make it so kittenly I can enjoy it, Hardcore4lyfe. QQ filthy casuals LULZ”.

Well if you feel that way… meet me at Teq at reset naked and solo him. I’m serious. Because even I can’t solo Teq and I consider myself pretty skilled in the Teq fight (pre-patch anyhow).

Some of us were lucky enough to have guilds pre-Teq nerf and that was how we got Teq done. By the time the nerfs hit, we already knew the fight. The bonus was now it was more viable with PUGs so long as you arrived 15-30 minutes early and made sure every position was filled via cat herding. PUGs not listening or playing like garbage could still crap a run – that is the issue with Teq the ‘hardcores’ don’t seem to get. You can’t solo him. Be as good as you want, if everyone else isn’t as good then you fail. All it takes is two extra afkers by a defense point to spawn a champ who will wipe them. All it takes is two people not using turrets properly to bring up a bone wall. Insult people all you like but it seems to me this thread is mostly full of frustrated skilled players, not ‘mouth breathing 11111 spammers’.

Can charr have cat ears so they have six ears?

Why are you posting? Get out there and SOLO him >:(

Also, TTS isn’t bad. My only issue with them was arriving an hour early only to be subjected to constant map switching and getting locked out if I couldn’t spam “join” in 30 seconds. That’s the only reason I dropped out of their ranks.

Still waiting for you to solo Teq, Mr. Badbutt.

Well why don’t you solo Teq then since you are so good? Do it naked too.

lulz get gud casualz lul tl;dr.

SMH, you can’t solo Teq so it doesn’t matter how “gud” you are.

Walls of text are hardcore ways of getting your point across, get gud :p

I’m getting sick of being told to ‘suck it up’ and called ‘lazy’. Remember when TC first defeated Teq? Yeah, I was there. And I was there the second time. And I was there when TTS formed. And I was there after every nerf, every tweak, every buff and debuff. I was there sometimes three times in a day depending on if I had insomnia or if I was struggling that night with illness or depression. I learned every part of that fight to the best of my ability and geared accordingly. I am not a Hardcore Elite Meta Player but I’m not a lazy scrub either, Teq and I have clashed over a hundred times. Those runs at 3am where the map was kittening? Yeah, it was me telling them to not give up because I’d been in groups that took Teq down with seconds to spare. I arrive 30 minutes early, I often volunteer for the defense jobs no one wants. The zerg is a dodge fest, a jump fest, picking up the downed (not dead) players before more poison drops, shaking off the fear breath, I don’t know who you think is afking and just pressing 11111 because it’s not me and it’s not anyone who genuinely does Teq.

And I am going to tell you right now… the health pool is too high and all I am seeing are failures. Two people who said it was ‘fun’ that I know and to ‘get over it’? They were on defense and not in the zerg, trying to burn down that extra 100% HP and stand in the tiny tiny spot you can crit him in while he isn’t stunned. Defense hasn’t changed at all so I can see why it would seem ‘fun’ when you’re not standing in three poison fields screaming for a cleanse. Phase one isn’t ‘fun’ unless you’re a masochist or unless you have very very good turreters. Being in the zerg is brutal.

Teq has always also been borderline content to me. It has requirements but they could be fudged a bit. Whatever debuff made it too easy to send him into the second and third battery phases from burn probably needed a small tweak but nothing like this. When content gets to the point where 100 people all have to be playing with perfect skill and no one can mess up, then you’ve pushed it from challenging into a chore. I can’t control how SoHrdCre on the turret plays or force Bearbow to wp and not lay there dead, scaling Teq up further. I can’t count on making it to a map full of just players like me. I don’t have hours to waste waiting in Sparkfly for a spoon. Now I’ve watched someone stream a successful Teq so yes, it can be done… but that was a guild map full of people from a single guild and maybe five PUGs. All three of the attempts I went to failed. Failed. In two of them, people left after the first burn because there wasn’t enough time left. Obviously something is wrong here and needs to be balanced.

I haven’t been ezmoding Teq and I’m putting in the best of my effort. It’s not enough. Not unless I want to plan hours before and pray I get in on a good map or a guild map.

I agree some players are just lazy and that was always bad at Teq, any time it failed in the last six months – you could easily see why. Now? Forget it. Unless everyone is hardcore mode, you fail, and that’s a lot to ask of most PvErs.

Tone HP buff down a little, make crit spot stand out more…

Or leave it like it is and make it drop Legendaries every time or most folks won’t touch it. I know I’m pretty kittened off at this point that my favorite fight – the way I blew off steam and relaxed – is now gone or rather buffed so high that I’m unlikely to win it every day and instead, end up in a worse mood.

Another fail on an organized map with a full zerg and defense team.

Thanks for taking away my favorite fight in the entire game, Anet. I can run the right build. I can do my best to dodge. I can burn my hardest while he’s stunned. But Teq isn’t soloable and I can’t control the other 99 people on the map or force the random luck of getting 99 people who are all as good as I am and won’t leave half way through.

A 25-50% HP buff was enough.

Teq is like herding children. Children who will wander off if something looks like it’s not going their way right this second. They see that timer tick down and they decide “Oh we can’t win” and they leave. Maybe it’s only ten players on the map like that, maybe it’s twenty, it doesn’t matter because this is a boss that can be completely kittened by just a few people not doing what they should be. I’ve had my turret stolen then commanders crying “WHY IS NO ONE SPAMMING 2??”, I’ve seen defense teams still calling for members and turret ops a full minute after spawn, last night the zerg was reduced by half because people just left instead of trying.

The point is – people don’t listen and if you’re in a map where they are, you are fortunate. This is why no one but organized guilds regularly do TT and if you want to do that content, you better arrive an hour early, prepare to switch maps repeatedly, and hope you don’t get locked out. That’s why I quit TTS – hours of my time wasted waiting then locked out because they switched maps and the map is full again in 30 seconds. Not fun, not worth the treasure.

Does anyone seriously want Teq to end up like this? I’m all for a challenge but this isn’t a challenge, it’s just some boss buffed way too high that was a slight pain to begin with and a giant one now. You want Teq to be hardcore kitten, add new moves. High HP is artificial difficulty.

And no, I’ve never gotten to stand by Teq while he’s not stunned and mindlessly spam 111111. Dodge poison, dodge waves, kill fingers, etc..

sigh

I’m all for Teq being a challenge – not impossible or a pain. A 50% buff would have been fine.

Look, I understand the want for challenge, I do. I also understand the majority of the player base has the attention span of a skritt. If I have to spend an hour before hand hoping and stressing that I get into a good map, taxi around, hope the other 99 players know what they’re doing, and pray I don’t DC for a spoon and a 1 in 100 chance of something good IF we even succeed, I’m more likely to pass.

And this hurts because Teq is my favorite world boss, I have fought Teq since Tequatl Rising debuted and fighting him is one of the ways I blow off steam and de-stress. I’m not saying “Oh let’s have him be super easy” but geez… I have yet to see him succeed in a map I’m in since the ‘fix’ and this is coming from someone who normally fights him 1-3 times a day and loved it =/

There already is a BDSM guild. Imagine seeing that tag next to you one day out of the blue…

By all means, go ahead. It’ll be a safe place for people who you can relate to and as long as you don’t do the against ToS behaviors others have outlined, you’re fine.

I have a feeling though you want to create it as a backlash which isn’t a good reason but if it’s something you want to do, feel free.

I’m actually in a LGBT guild, not because of anything sexual but because I like having a safe space and hope to talk to other asexuals. Oh yeah and they’re 100% accepting and awesome, that helps

Wait… Marriage is only for having children and love is only for procreation?

Well, let’s ban all asexuals, infertile folk, and post-menopausal women from marrying then. I mean, let’s be consistent.

As the GW2 turns…

I’m pretty sure the LGBT guilds take everyone, even allies, and exist because of the need for a safe space – not anything sexual.

But shine on, you crazy diamond.

If anyone is quitting this game because of the acknowledgement that LGBTQA folk exist and are humans too, that’s fine. There are many many other games that they can play and feel comfy in but I’d suggest they start going retro gamer – as society changes and moves more towards acceptance, these little pockets are going to dry up. It’s not a matter of being ‘politically correct’, it’s a matter of inclusion.

Can we revote? Because that Fractal.. is the worst thing ever.

Pssstt..

Asexual character.

I can has?

Rainbow. Gradient. Nightglow (dyes that have a glow only at night, similiar to sylvari). Tye Dye. Crystalline (dyes with a slight transparency effect, creates the illusion of crystal or glass).

Honestly, I’ll take rainbow anything because I love rainbow colors. Not political anything attached :p

Sorry Crunchbone, as someone else who loves and savors the slow leveling process, I get where you’re coming from.

It took 14 hero challenges and 13 times of knowledge to fix my ele. I didn’t want to level her that way but to get her back to her proper build, I had to. Now I have to grab 60 more hero points somewhere to prevent Earth from being her only option for a second trait line before two more levels because Jon thinks auto assigning lazy traits is easier than a one time refund.

And they WERE auto assigned based on class. Your build did not matter if you were below level 30, possibly even if you were below level 44. I’ve only seen actual build matching on toons over level 45.

This was just gross to do.