Guild Wars 2

Same here we need an answer on this asap, the same 2 people on my party got a ring, the 3 rest of us nothing, and we are now on fractal 13 and here it hurts like hell.

I have the same opinion

nachtnebel.9168:

@1 You don’t need 5 players to do the low level fractals, even lvl 10 was doable with 3-4 players.

@2 The jumping puzzles in FotM are very basic, no time preasure or anything like that. Even casual players should have no problem with them.

@3 You can dodge the one shots, just keep doing so until you killed one of the arms.

Pretty much this, please consider improving and learning basics from the game.

Asagi.1405:

Wethospu.6437:

The RNG has been really “fun” so far. With about same runs all my friends have 2-5 vials while I’m still at zero. Though I got one Molten Core and few Glacier Cores while they get all kind of Lodestones.
RNG is RNG but would hate get blocked because of it.

Here is the biggest problem. Pretty soon people will want to tackle 15-20 Fractals, and those of us unfavoured by the loot genie (or, perhaps, screwed over by bugs) will be left behind.
Guilds are not the universal panacea to this problem. Even the best guild of the friendliest, most understanding, pro players won’t wait forever for someone t catch up.

This is even WORSE than a gear treadmill, for in any given WoW raid it is more likely that someone will get an upgrade and become more useful to the team.
Here, it’s gated content entirely determined by luck.

Hope someone answers soon.

Asagi.1405 Biggest problem I hate with it you know what is it?

10 days of “daily” someone can get 10 rings, you or me can get 0, if it’s a 1 time reward, most likely we lost it since they don’t give back anything you lose.

So let’s have a bit of faith.

Minos.5168:

Parisalchuk.9230:

This is horrible then. Not only was I ‘gifted’ 2 bags of gold resulting in a lovely 3 silver total, now I wont get another chance at getting fractals until lvl 10 difficulty?

Its starting to sound more and more like Im never coming back to Fractals. Horrible rewards for semi-fun content.

If you expected decent rewards, then you must have missed Linsey Murdock’s blog post about needing “gear progression” to keep people playing the game.

You are a good troll my god, it was an error and it’s fixed. Now you get 1 bag of gold and tokens.

Asagi.1405 Let’s wait and see if William can confirm, I think Robert is off on the weekend.

Totally agree with this +BLTC Agent, and now 1 more if you can wish for : Trainer , a global one for all classes…

I think is quite easy to implement!

pchow.1956 I got a friend that from 5 in party, noone got a ring… but it was not from the big chest, it was from the chest that prompts in the side, like if it was a daily, but the name was as I stated already:

Fractal Bonus

But I didn’t see if the daily has the same name, hope this is not a daily with RNG…

Scykron.7435 +1

This being said some say is daily, some others not, I just hope this is not a daily with RNG, cause that’s a disaster, you can get no ring in 10 days, and someone get 10 of them in a row, and that’s BS.

Pinch.4273:

That was a different issue. I can guarantee that they don’t want you getting a ring every day.

Funny thing is, this IS NOT a daily, it says :

Fractal Bonus! – as a prompt like a daily, BUT I already got my daily that day.

This was from going to tier 10 to 11 when agony already kicks in, and I don’t think this is intended to work like that, and more likely to give a ring to everyone from going to a higher difficulty, if not, if there’s RNG related this is just the worse I’ve seen then, hopefully and having some faith in the Devs and that this is a mistake.

It’s really frustrating, we don’t know if to continue or not, cause we don’t wanna miss drops that are bugged or get logged off cause of an error from a video at the level of tiers we are.

We got Ascended rings for diff 10 to 11, check this out here, is in Dungeons forums:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/dungeons/Fractals-11-Loot-error-please-FIX/first#post777728

I do agree on these, actually not MF but on higher levels we are using food for extra stats, and they go away, and some of them are quite expensive to be spamming constantly.

A work fix for this will be much appreciated, and as well stuck in videos, is really frustrating when a fractal is so hard, you jump to next (lvl 10-11 talking about) and you loose someone in the process….

Done fractals till lvl 11 (there’s a post about the drops we got in this subforum) and I can tell you 1 thing, gradually increases difficulty, adds more mechanics, more rewards, and the most important:
The instance teaches you how to do it, and how to be better at it, a.k.a you improve with the instance at the same time.

This is a well love design, and it has all my respects, when we got to 10, we smiled to side to side when Agony kick’d into the mechanics.

So from Tier 10 to 11 you get a bonus, 25 fractals and an Ascended ring, well 2 of our party got ring, 2 other didn’t get it, a bag of gold instead.

Name: Rurik’s Royal Signet

http://i.imgur.com/qbEZP.jpg

Now are you telling me it’s random to get the ring instead of a bag of gold or this is a mistake? Anyway we can get it again?

Besides, we needed to 4 man last boss in fractal 10, due Volcano video from start getting stuck our friend.

Info: They got 25 tokens, 1 bag of gold, and this ring. We got the same but without the ring, is suppose to have RNG the bonus? – Same party all of us, just in case check screenshot.

William are we ever going to see money dropping from the bosses? like the new instances, loot is such random (atm in stage 8 of the fractals).

EDIT: Sorry not bags.

I’m asking, since you added this to all existent dungeons, why is not here, is such a nice thing, and always keeps nice amount of money done per run (old instances now) and for the new one will be great, since the loot in chest can be really good, or completly random, besides you need to wait 6 fractals to have a boss fight which assures you a nice loot (1 piece at least and random again) , and that’s about 1,5h+.

For the rest, really enjoying this new dungeon and the mechanics, LOVELY.

Klokwurk.6348:

Well, after 50 minutes the event suddenly started with no cutscene, but nearly everyone had already given up on it ever happening and now there are about 4 of us left so we can’t do a thing. Wonderful.

Exactly the same.. Did you left a timer for the events and everyone went home this weekend? Man they are being a disaster, I feel really bad for you guys at Anet but really..

@EricHanke Thanks a lot for the information

@EricHanke Thanks a lot for the answer

So, tell me if I am wrong, but is going to be only 5 fractal tokens constantly for each fractal, or they do increase? for me was 6 tokens each fractal from 6 phase up, for some people just 5 still.
Are we going to get more fractals tokens or just the daily ones and that’s about it? Cause seems it’s a better idea to run low level fractals with other characters for tokens.

Still many information missing about it.

@William Fairfield
As well the issue of the non-existent drops from phase 4 to 5 (after jade and Ascalon fights)? please will be nice if you can answer.
Regards

I did tried 6, you get now 6 tokens each, problem I have is that, I don’t see why I should continue nor my party if we get 6 6 6, we do big events again, and get nothing in consequence, there should be an improvement on tokens like they stated for this dungeon, was really happy when I did the jade boss and got extra tokens, but after doing 2 big bosses in a row and get nothing, was a bit like: “okay, let the grind begin”.
Hopefully we can hear more about it.

EDIT: @TwinkOwnsFace.7968 You get 5 ? something is wrong in here..

Also, we are supposed to get, 5 tokens each fractal, and then on the last events every 2 fractals 20, or how is it? It’s pretty confusing since as stated above we didn’t get anything at phase 4, and it didn’t scalate on rewards so well (Token wise, drop wise is perfect)

@Dakirah.1892

Thanks someone else notices, in phase 4 you get 2 events of them as I said above and you don’t get anything, but in phase 2 to 3 you also get loot and tokens as Dakirah said..

No response, feel ignored.

William is this fix already up, or do we need to wait for new build?
And in transition from level 4 to 5 we got nothing as prompt and no rewards.

EDIT: My god he totally erased the comment O.O

So after doing 2 big battles…

We defeated the waves on Ascalon and then the Jade Quarry all together to go to phase 5, we got no prompt with new fractal tokens, like for example in the fight from 2 to 3, where you get tokens + a bag of gold, in this case we didn’t recieve anything and it was way longer.

So at this point, is this bugged and not working properly, or it is just like that?

Hopefully you Robert or any other Dev can see this.

Please any information?

Please any information?

Here we have a big question, we are on level 4 of fractals, and a question came along with this post from gw2hub:

http://www.guildwars2hub.com/guides/basics/complete-guide-fractals-mists

“Before you can begin, you’ll first need to form a full group of five players. All party members will need to be located in Lion’s Arch within the same shard, though only the group leader will need to be physically present at the asura gate to enter the main Fractals of the Mists instance.”

Does this mean that he can’t join us (a friend that is on a German server, we are on Seafarer’s Rest a completly different one) afterwards when this “overflow” servers stop being active cause of the event? I mean, he will not be in the same shard (we are on the same overflow now to be able to join as example), please an answer will be much appreciated.

I know is in 2 places, but Robert might see it here and other guys too in the lost shore.

Einsof.1457:

Jabberwock.9014:

Ah ok, I guess I was a bit hasty in my judgement. I was under the impression you had to start from level 1 every time. Is a difficulty permanently unlocked upon reaching it? And do you get a superboss every other run no matter what?

Still could end up a ridiculous grind, but I’ll reserve judgement for at least the time being.

It’s people like you spreading false information that hurts everyone.

I agree with the last line false information, currently on phase 4, and got already big big drops out of it and my party too. Really good design on instances too, loving to see how it gets harder and more rewarding.

Here we have a big question, we are on level 4 of fractals, and a question came along with this post from gw2hub:

http://www.guildwars2hub.com/guides/basics/complete-guide-fractals-mists

“Before you can begin, you’ll first need to form a full group of five players. All party members will need to be located in Lion’s Arch within the same shard, though only the group leader will need to be physically present at the asura gate to enter the main Fractals of the Mists instance.”

Does this mean that he can’t join us (a friend that is on a German server, we are on Seafarer’s Rest a completly different one) afterwards when this “overflow” servers stop being active cause of the event? I mean, he will not be in the same shard (we are on the same overflow now to be able to join as example), please an answer will be much appreciated.

emikochan.8504 I agree with you on that :P <3

How much money they will make putting items into bundles and not chest gambling? I think way more, it was really not welcome, and I’m not talking about myself only, for a vast majority.

Information Here:

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/the-game/releases/november-2012/#the-lost-shores

They are going to be inside of Chest or a bundle to purcharse? Thanks! cause is not clear!

If it is chest, I will be highly disappointed as well with a vast majority of people since gambling was not well recieved and you got insane amounts of feedback about it.

I second this as well.

As title says, we needed to use a Mesmer ( to use portal to bypass the door of the pre event) to get inside the gates of Arah since it is bugged in the 3 different servers from the people from group.

Once inside, we failed path 1 cause it got bugged since NPC died, you said you are aware, that’s fine.

Same day (today 11nov) we tried path 4, and it got bugged again in the bloodstone shards, we killed the undeads around and the message was still the same:

Search for the last bloodstone.
Clean the undeads around the bloodstone.

The pull of 4 mobs was clean and everything on the way, we took like 2.5h cleaning everything to not bug a single piece of this instance, in the end it gets bugged in the last boss pull..

I’m really frustrated right now, 2 paths are bugged, entrance is not working, can I get a word on this? nearly 5h doing those 2 paths, for, in the end, getting nothing and everyone raging about the game.

Thanks for reading.

TL:DR Arah entrance is bugged, we did path 1 and 4, both are bugged for us, we couldn’t finish nothing, we lost 5-6h inside of a dungeon we needed to use a mesmer port to get in, since entrance was bugged in 3 different servers.

anniehathaway.8946:

Detha Trembletoes in path 2 tends to bug out at the final boss in path 2 as well. And yes we’ve killed graveling burrow near priory camp, queen spider, 4 high hp spiders, oozes, and skipped khoeler. Though i’ve tried many various combinations of skipping some n killing some, still unable to find a conclusion as to why these Hodgins/Detha stuck bugs appear. Also tried waypointing whole team back, killing and ressing NPC.

Just want to say that I farm AC 12 times a day on some diff characters, and as a customer, I’m not pleased with this. I do serveral other dungeons as well. Dungeons(most of them) are really buggy and need a lot of work. The NPC AI is extremely stupid, they tend to do things the team doesn’t want them to do.

Some things you need to work on are:
1. NPC just following the person who created the instance
2. Instance dont get reset if creator leaves party/switch toons
3. Party mates unable to re-enter dungeon if they disconnect during a 3min/3hrs new build announcement
4. The famous “instance stuck as no progress in cutscenes/NPC bugs” which waste a lot of people’s time.

I do agree in every single word with this guy, my guild is running all days dungeons, but lately on not so much anymore since they bug out to frequently now, then cause of that, no reward, time loss, the fun stops and people just logs off.

Main reasons of this are always the NPC’s, either you make them invulnerable through all instances or this will continue, cause that’s the main problem, once they die they start to cut out their conversation and stop triggering the events or next phases.

After so long seeing such things in every instance still standing doesn’t make any of us happy at all :/, thanks for working on them though.

And in the meanwhile other people like me and my guild are asking for HardMode in instances..

Okay, the question as it says on the title, we just finished AC in 20minutes, 18min and 32min, suddenly in the last path (1 in 18min) we got hit by DR, explanation;

We did clean Spider, mobs in the tunnel after spider, did the event of the burrows, took the mini scepter in the tomb above, run till next event of picking up scepters (5 in total) before that we even cleaned Oozes, took all scepters and afterwards just boss left, in 18min as stated above.

I got 23 tokens, someone else 30, and the rest 60.

Did you guys touch something in the last update? 23 is weird after getting before 60, then another guy 30 too, but the rest 60 when we did all at same time.

Thanks for reading.

@lcpdragonslayer.7895
You confuse one thing, I don’t QQ or ask for anything, call him liar or similar, my question in the end was this:
But at least I do wanna know 20+days of testing, how is going?

If you qualify this as a whining, negative post, and bad feedback, either you are a really negative person, or games forums give you that feeling.

What I said was clear, 26 days ago, we don’t know how rewards are going, what are they testing and such, and I think feedback from us about it can give new ideas and refresh the players too.

Edited it for you to make clearer my points.

@silvermember.8941
Where can I read the message with “till next emergency patch”?
Thanks

@Capricornus.6157
The dungeons with TeamPlay and good coordination (+ knowledge on mobs) at this moment don’t offer a good level of skill to be completed, they are rather easy, so to be honest, getting back to the old system will make people farm 1-2 chest like it was happening in Arah…

Robert Hrouda.1327:

Hey there, thought I’d come weigh in on this.

First, sorry you’ve had such a rough time with Arah. It’s a long and tough cookie to crack, but it can be done. RoRo has good advice: step back and reassess the situation. Define a leader. Build a strategy, and execute.

Now, you brought up a great concept for the DR system rewarding unique boss deaths. While I certainly don’t like to jump the gun on making claims, our next patch SHOULD include a newly developed reward system for people who couldn’t make it to the end that should alleviate a bit of this “walking away with nothing” feeling you have.
Personally, I love that my content kills players and challenges them. I feel pretty kitteny though when my content beats someone into the ground and takes their lunch money. I at least want you to walk away with something more than a repair bill and some random blues, and folks here are working on that very thing.
That being said, our next patch SHOULD contain some revamped loot drops from bosses that have the chance of giving small token rewards (among other things), which should help alleviate that.

This was 26 days ago, and next patch, next patch, and that actually never happened, what we expect right now, after 1 month is the 15th of November or even a more long-term date? Will be really nice a bit of transparency in this matter, but at least I do wanna know after 20+days of testing, how is going)

Please don’t use the term ‘Heroic’, Hardmode, and then I will agree with you :P

No, what I’m saying is the following:

Is a poor implementation for a fix in this place, better place hard mobs in the way which you need to kill before you can damage the barriers like the first boss or another boss in the way with a more complex strategy than a robot pulling you and kicking you to the sides.

But not a fix which includes waves and waves of enemies, there’s no skill, group play or anything related, just “patrol coming, kill 2 adds, then grenadier” 2sec afterwards “patrol coming, kill 2 adds, then grenadier”.

Already got Dungeon Master title like everyone else in my team, we love Arah, we love TA difficulty, but this is just a poor fix with a poor implementation behind it.

EDIT: And you think that ignoring the mobs is what the Devs wanted? as I said and stated above, put hard mobs which you need to kill in order to kill the barriers or another boss in the way which involves teamplay to do this, not just killing the spawns, or IGNORING them, I find it a bit ridiculous.

And you think any on their minds are going to do this path? I’m highly disappointed in the fix for this path, is ridiculous, I’m not gonna spend 45min killing mobs on the way, we just left after seeing it was spawning and spawning all the time (we didn’t die, but it was annoying as hell)

@Jeffrey Vaughn I am a bit concerned lately on when you guys have already fixed something like this or the Hatchery like you said, and we need to wait weeks to have the fix, this is really worrying me, if you guys indeed have more than 1 team working on different things, what’s the big deal on updating the game with those fixes in small patches? I’m really confused right now, some people can’t advance stories or finish off things cause of this.

Regards, hope I do hear from you.

BE HAPPY is just a cutscene and not a full event, so everyone doesn’t get pissed off, so many whiners nowadays.

Read this again:

A gem shop that you can buy items from with in-game gold? Oh no…someone get the credit card out!
It’s an MMO with no monthly fee… at the same price as the latest ‘A-list’ games that are single player RPG’s (who do not provide holiday content like this, and which can be ‘completed’ in less time).
You’re not seriously trying to argue that your £40 should provide you with endless updates for years and years to come?

They should not nerf this, everyone is so happy in guild…