Guild Wars 2

1. Run through all the trash straight to Lord Faren.
2. Kill the mobs around him until the fire extinguishers pop
3. Use fire extinguishers
4. Kill required mobs
5. Repeat 3 – 4 until done

Ignore/kite any other mobs.

Anyone have a server that doesn’t suck at completing the event during oceanic times?

Just want to finish my 13 achieve ASAP and move on.

Still looking!

Updated again to reflect changes. Looking for multi-server casual or semi-hardcore but competent active oceanic guild (i.e 10+ people on during oceanic times)!

Not willing to transfer servers at this time.

ITT: exploiters caught out, exploiters claim it as “skill”. Who’da thunk it.

Had some fun solo fights in this match-up. Keep on roaming folks.

Join VZ if you’re looking for a good, friendly NA Guild on SBI :-)

Thanks for the replies/PMs.

Updated the original post to be more specific if anyone’s interested

I am primarily looking for a medium sized (10+ active during oceanic times) Oceanic Guild on the SBI server that I can represent during oceanic prime times. An Oceanic guild that is multi-server is also good. I am interested in doing dungeons in particular, but I do WvW/SPVP quite a bit as well as a number of other PVE activities.

Halfway between casual and hardcore is ideal for me, if that makes sense. What I mean by this is I don’t want an elitist guild full of super hardcore amazing players that have unreasonable (for me) requirements. However am looking for a guild that is competent at running dungeons and such. There a few dungeons I haven’t done that I’m looking to learn how to do. I listen and follow well.

*Updated for clarity
- Must essentially be an oceanic guild for the most part (10+ online during oceanic times)
- Not looking to change servers right now but multi-server is definitely acceptable.
- Multi-server Dungeon focused Oceanic guild would be perfect

I think wanting the guild to be fun and friendly goes without saying.

Please reply here, PM on the forums, or send me mail ingame.

Finally completed it today after far too many attempts to count! I did it about 10 attempts after the one where I managed to get Liadri to have no visible health left, needing one more shot to die…. aaaaand I ran out of time and the floor dropped out on me.

Anyway, mine was nothing special, just persistence rather than skill. Using my usual build but just changed some relevant traits

Prof: Warrior. Full zerker gear (exotics) + ruby orbs

Sword/Warhorn (white weps ftw) & Rifle
20/20/0/0/30
III & IX (IX is useless here but so are the rest and too lazy to change)
VI & VII
V, VI & XII
40% endurance food, no util food

Utils: Balanced stance, endure pain (I didn’t need this but i whacked it on at the end anyway just in case something bad happened!), Signet of Stamina
Elite: Signet of Rage

Warhorn 4 to cure cripple, rifle 2 to try and keep Liadra crippled, strafe in circles running sideways

Once I got the strafing/kiting right I found that I had an overload of endurance anyway but I’d rather be safe than sorry.

I’d like to think i’m proof even your average PVE player can do it if they try hard enough, lol.

Probably just my playstyle but I don’t know how people have problems getting the karma. I’ve made two legendaries, the first one took ~1 million karma, the 2nd ~1.2 million karma. I currently have ~2 million karma across my account as well as 100 jugs in the bank from daily/monthly.

Skill points on the other hand are a real pita if you don’t run fractals. Even more pita when your 2nd legendary took you ~220 SP just to get the 77 clovers so ~420 all up. Probably even more of a pita since I used ~150 SP to make volcanus to save precious $$$ since I was poor!

As for selling legendaries, I don’t think I’d ever do it unless there was some serious $$$ profit. It’s not worth the annoying skill point grind; although that opinion is partly brought to you by the horror of my 2nd legendary taking ~420 and that I’m running out of characters to get the 202 world SP on!

I am considering working on a 3rd but $$$ is now a problem. I was never that good at making money, I got some nice luck making the $$$ for my first two legendaries; The Legend from Lost shores (sold for 240g odd to make my 2nd legendary, hah), Final Rest the day it started dropping, 200 – 300g from working the TP (made several of the high-priced MF recipe items and sold for 50 – 100g profit after fees) and my personal favourite, buying The Legend for 365g buy offer and selling it for 475g (pre-fees) twice, the first time selling it within 30 minutes. Quickest ~40g ever for me!

I made two of the cheaper legendaries (Kudzu & The Dreamer), I bought Leaf of Kudzu for 60g during lost shores and The Dreamer when it was 190g. Wish I’d had more money back then I would have stocked up; I had to borrow 10g to buy Kudzu lol!

Okay, that reads a bit like my gw2 life story… carry on. No, I wouldn’t sell one unless it was serious $$$ profit. 400g minimum.

Hexxed.8023:

Good fights tonight on so many borderlands.

Were you the warrior trying to steal my precious supply camp!?

Seems to be less kittens in this match-up than previous ones, both in-game and on the forum. Enjoying it!

“Let people play how they want to play” … definitely one of the more interesting attempts to justify exploiting I’ve heard. Kudos.

Anyway I mentioned in my second post on the the thread that it takes two to tango. The people who happily advertise to exploit this obviously broken path aren’t the only ones at fault. How this hasn’t been fixed yet is mind-boggling.

With that being said, can we expect a fix to this any time soon?

Besides that unfortunate piece of cheating, I had fun during reset once again. This match-up should be much more kind than the previous.

If that mesmer told you he had been waiting in there the entire time then he told you a nice little fib.

I killed him earlier a few hours after the gates had been closed and remarked at the time that it was suspicious that he was in there because he wasn’t even attempting to hide and was out in the complete open.

I’d be interested to know how he got back in there for the above picture without the gates going down in that time… cough

5 hours ago, ~ 1 hour before the other pic was posted.

I have very little chance of coming first in the sprint with this issue. The times I’ve been close my little asura cannonballs into the water instead of landing where it’s supposed to.

I can stuff up on my own just perfectly fine without help.

Yenn.9185:

It’s similar to CoF P1; why do you think it’s getting farmed? The time per reward is just so much better. I’m not defending exploiting but when you give player the option to cut the run time by like a 1/5, they will do it. I almost feel like P1 is an exploit considering you can earn ridiculous amount of gold with so little effort and time.

I get where you’re coming from and I am frustrated that this is as possible just as much as I am frustrated that people insist on doing it. No party deserves all the blame.

Eh, I’m okay with a dungeon path being easy/farmable if that’s the purpose that dungeon path was designed for.

Yenn.9185:

PS. I don’t think it’s incompetent. P2 is just as easy as P1 but just longer. It’s not laziness either, it’s the time saved.

Maybe not, but pugs do tend to fail P2 more than P1.

Is anyone else having difficulties finding groups that aren’t willing to run this without “skipping” lately? (here I’m using “skipping” as slang for what’s really going on; “exploiting”, and not talking about skipping trash mobs) The new-ish fad seems to be “skipping” 80% of this dungeon path instead of running it properly. Just curious, does this annoy anyone else? Are you fine with “skipping”? If you’re all for it, is it a laziness thing or are you incompetent? Is there any sort of fix in the works for this issue? It’s not like it hasn’t been reported before and it’s very obvious it’s not working as intended.

Personally I find it frustrating that people are ditching groups because they have the nerve to run the dungeon properly. Cracks me up when I see people with dungeon master leading the charge to run the path this way too, makes me think “Exploit master” more than anything.

Major dungeon exploits are very lame.

/rant over

Yeah I edited that a bit to be less flamey… don’t particularly want this thread to be locked.

Noodica.5428:

Just wanted to say, the fight at SBI hills today was hilarious.
Not only did we hold outer for 1hour+ but lords room for about 25+ minutes with 15 people against 40 SBI, i must say, if i were the commander of that SBI zerg, i’d be badly ashamed of myself. Your first push cleared all our siege and npc’s in lords, but you whiped half the zerg, the second time we held you off with simple combat against those huge odds for another 20 minutes, all tho you did cap it at the end, i wouldn’t have been very happy with that performance..
However, so proud of the BP who were their and defended, was amazing.

We would have kept it if it weren’t for the zoom-hacking elementalists from SBI who cleared the tons of siege we had set up. I have screenshots but don’t see the point in posting them.

You are also completely delusional and are a baddie.

1. You can’t count. We probably had a little over 40 and you had more than 15 and you know it. Stop embellishing the story.

2. Rest of the stuff in paragraph 1 – don’t disagree, most of SBI’s pugs are dumb. Not hard to figure that out. Saying we’re a PVE server is the diplomatic and nice way of going about it. Wouldn’t surprise me if we have more uplvled than 80s. Took them 10 minutes to build a ballista I set up that BP couldn’t reach but could reach BP at Hills inner. Most of the kittens don’t bother resupplying during a siege. I’d say close to 75% don’t bother if I had to guess a %.

3. Nobody was zoom hacking, they were up against the wall and you can reach from there perfectly legitimately. You’re telling fibs to further your agenda again.

Fwiw, people might take you seriously if you didn’t act like a 12 year old who’s just been friend dumped (You’re not my friend any more!) every time SBI does something you don’t like.

Just relax, take a deep breath, and realise there’s plenty of time for BP to mount a comeback.

Aeros.2046:

Wow SBI, you guys are pretty low today. I saw what your pal Efrite was up too. Funny how 30 seconds after she blew up the supply in Overlook you guys attacked Veloka. And 30 seconds after she blew up the supplies in Stonemist you were at the Great Western Gate. I suddenly have a very irrational desire to go ape on your borderlands this week. Its funny though. As soon as it happened, we told everyone to get to Stonemist. If you want to bend the rules, at least not be so obvious about it.

kitten I love match threads. Some goose on your server uses up all your supply and it’s SBI’s fault lmao.

Unfortunately the old “Start an upgrade at the worst possible time” isn’t that uncommon on SBI, next time it happens I guess it’s BP’s fault.

Noodica.5428:

Amurond.4590:

Noodica.5428:

GSSBlunaspike.4153:

etiolate.9185:

thank you for the bags of loot

and for letting you finally win =P. Hey after a few weeks you guys need it.

lololololol, and the most embarrassing thing would be if we were to catch up and beat them through the week, w0w.

Not as embarrassing as giving up after 2 days into the match-up.

Scratches head Who gave up exactly?

Several suggestions about BP “throwing the match-up” in here, yet you guys were leading around the 19k mark, so I can only assume this afternoon where SBI got out to a decent lead (early morning for NA?) you had given up. Was I mistaken? Honestly I hope BP hasn’t thrown in the towel this week and all this throwing talk is just a few sore losers. I like close match-ups.

Hadan.2841:

GSSBlunaspike.4153:

etiolate.9185:

thank you for the bags of loot

and for letting you finally win =P. Hey after a few weeks you guys need it.

Where was this agreed apon as a server? Did i miss the memo to bend over and throw the match? Is this an excuse we are telling people now for why we are losing? Stop chest thumping and making yourself as well as the rest of BP look like a bunch of noobs.

Lol ignore him, all servers have them.

ps. Killing cannons before you bring golems into range is always a good idea.

Noodica.5428:

GSSBlunaspike.4153:

etiolate.9185:

thank you for the bags of loot

and for letting you finally win =P. Hey after a few weeks you guys need it.

lololololol, and the most embarrassing thing would be if we were to catch up and beat them through the week, w0w.

Not as embarrassing as giving up after 2 days into the match-up.

Yeah it has been fun today. Roflstomping and being roflstomped in return, standard.

Ben K.6238:

Only time I wouldn’t recommend it is if you’re getting so much CC and damage you can’t risk a stomp, but if you’ve managed to down them, you seem to be doing alright.

lol read above, Reikou is just trolling, it was 2v~7. The 2nd time it was ~4v~7 and had two thieves beating on me when I was already low so nothing was going to change the result. He has nothing.

Noodica.5428:

Amurond.4590:

Evilzara.6378:

however some of us (Noodica) have developed this hate for SBI, so we may spend more time in their BL.

Make sure you don’t kill Noodica in the jumping puzzle, or anywhere on EBG, NSP or he will get cranky at you too.

Btw Noodica are you a necro by any chance?

I infact am. And what on earth are you talking about.. i don’t even do the jumping puzzle :S

Just curious. Just remember from the match-up 2 weeks ago fighting a Necro [Lost] commander and an uplvled warrior at AP when I was catapulting it solo on my Guard.

Jyeoi.6027:

I’ll rez Reikou. Depending on the size of the fight and its circumstances, whether to stomp/rez changes.

Lol I was just having a dig. All things considering I’d still rez him if it was absolutely necessary. The “team” fight he was talking about 2 of us (Reikou and I, a match made in heaven) vs 6 – 8 BP who were catapulting SBI Bay. He sat in the corner ranging whilst I was in the middle of them, we downed a few with AOEs then he complained I wasn’t stomping them, despite all of them beating on me. Meanwhile he was sitting untouched and on full health in the corner, lol. In short, he’s a troll, and it’s best to ignore him for the most part. Any good points he makes are overshadowed by a very delusional and misplaced sense of self-worth. His criticism of SBI would be worth listening to if it was coming from just about anyone else.

Reikou.7068:

anzenketh.3759:

Reikou I think you are confusing open field fighting with roaming. I never even said that I was a great PvPer. I would consider myself mediocre. Stratagy I think I am good at however. So stop your trolling and trying to make pepole fit your mold. You will not get SBI to fit your “Perfect build runs” simply because of the type of server it is. Most of those “Perfect builds” require more then what you can expect out of the generic player base and only work in some cases.

I am saying that what I have seen in our server particularly Yulo’s group and some of the other commander groups are quite good at open field fighting. We don’t need any schooling on this matter from any other server we need to listen to our commanders who know how to do it. We also need more pepole on teamspeak(after we raise the cap). The open field fighting I am talking about is not the type of open field fighting that you are used to in sPvP. The type of fighting that you get in WvW.

As for wasting resources. I can kill a Dolyak and a sentry solo thank you and would never look for a party to kill one. As for camps… I need more pratice soloing them I would agree. However I go for the camps in a party because they go down faster and I like to play the timer on them I also am generally asking for only one more player then I. So that speeds things up just about enough that I can play the timer correctly. I also know the correct time to be with the zerg and the correct time to form a party to melt the camps.

So even you admit SBI has a HUGE L2P issue, which is a good start.

But ffs, I just played with a Guardian who thought it was best that someone else’s duty to be the primary stomper/reser in a team fight.

Anyone who bothers reviving you needs to L2P, they just wasted valuable time.

Evilzara.6378:

however some of us (Noodica) have developed this hate for SBI, so we may spend more time in their BL.

Make sure you don’t kill Noodica in the jumping puzzle, or anywhere on EBG, NSP or he will get cranky at you too.

Btw Noodica are you a necro by any chance?

Just ignore Reikou, Anzz, a glass cannon thief that’s a tad delusional about his self-worth.

Jyeoi.6027:

I know how SoR rose to where it is now and it is with that model in mind I hope to mould SBI.

Lol, so do I.

They have half of SBI’s old WvW population. That’s where most of the rats went. WM to Kaineng, SF to JQ, a few others to the aforementioned and the rest to SoR (while we were fighting them in the same match-up, some of them were attempting to spawn-camp SBI a day after they left). Neva 4get.

dtxman.2054:

Would like to congratulate SBI guild Kiwi you are real stand ups attacking 3 of us not fighting back at the end of jumping puzzle in WvW. Congrats really shows off your skills and prowess. As we mutually didnt attack anyone all along the way through the puzzle cheers to you and please contract cancer of your rectum for your good deeds.

→ gets killed in a PVP zone
→ wishes rectum cancer upon those who killed him

Sorry, but even with this intriguing post you can’t take this week’s biggest sook in the match thread title from Aeros.

cheshirefox.7026:

soo, congratulations on the skilled team of SBI using seigegrazer on anvil borderland
it’s one thing to 10 vs 3, but to do it with seigegrazer on a paper tower, that’s classy
sadly each piece of siege was manned and a cata took out my arrow cart.. fool me once
pure genius activating the event again an hour later.. taking out the wall with catas in the time i could build a better placed cart.. fool me twice

i guess i shouldn’t be any bit surprised, it Is stormbluffs M.O.
usually find myself late at night defending against SBI with a 10 vs 30 ratio
it’s really quite something though when AR does defend.. [last week we drove them out of our eB keep, and subsequently crushed their dwindling forces in the nearby tower.. not long after i found the group spawn camping anvil borderland north camp and spamming rams]
having a large invading force bum rush your territory every other hour does get boring after awhile..
we still have a mild defensive force throughout the night, That i can appreciate..
also to be noted, anvil let our points slip toward the end of last week and there are rumors of one of our larger guilds leaving.. {practically confirmed} in any case, anvil has a bit of reforming to do
certainly not a lost cause, which can’t be said for some servers

Sorry, what are you complaining about? You’re all over the shop and the pictures had practically nothing to do with the rant.

Oh right something about using Siegerazer? I agree, servers should stop using what’s available to them. Next on the agenda is superior siege. None of that thank you.

Noodica.5428:

but were still not outmanned.

You’d state your case better if you weren’t being intentionally dishonest. We had the outmanned buff during the Garrison “fight” (read: zerged by over 2x the numbers). It may have flickered off for a split second or something but it was there for the rest.

Noodica.5428:

@ Hills.
Fair bit of numbers.

Outmanned by far at Hills. Had even less than we had at Garrison. Don’t let that get in the way of a good yarn though.

Noodica.5428:

@Bay.
Still think we outmmaned you..?

Next time you should blur out the minimap so we can’t see the 30 – 40 odd (hard to know with the double-ups) green dots behind you.

We da best cause we got da best numbers!

Thanks for the advice so far guys. Learning some things I didn’t know (partly because I’ve never played engineer).

I have a lot of retaliation and condition removal in my build. More often than not it seems to be the direct damage rather than conditions that are doing the damage. I feel like another issue is I often get locked down in engineer fights (they have some nifty immobilizes I take it) and am left to use my generally crappy ranged DPS.

Maelenhanced.8739:

My stats (buffed) with:
– Superior Sigil of Perception (staff) / Sigil of Accuracy (greatsword)
– Curry Butternut Squash Soup
– Superior sharpening stone

Gear: Soldier Armor (boon duration runes)
Cavalier’s Back and Accessories
Berserker’s Amulet and Rings
still in need of infusions

Traits: 0/0/30/30/10

Crixus.9247:

0/5/30/30/5, some cheap food (running low on gold , 25 stacks of precision, all ascended gear.

Hm, I like these two since they are similar enough to the trait-lines I have. Might have to have a look at these!

I know where you’re coming from and it’s why I purposely avoided it during the day today (reset is 11am here). Just a general observation/rant that isn’t directed at any particular guild/server, nor time during the match-up.

Sigh getting stampeded over during a decent 1v1 gets old real fast. I know, I know, WvW isn’t about 1v1 but unfortunately nothing else is either and it’s the best we’ve got.

Sunflowers.1729:

Amurond.4590:

I beat 90% of thieves I run into on my Guardian (a small % of this would include those that run away/call in the support) however the very good ones still cause me some problems. That’s working as intended imo, better players beating lesser players. I have high DPS and an abundance of retaliation though so the glass cannon types are laughable for the way I run my Guardian.

However, I think the main problem with thieves above all else is their ability to dis-engage the fight whenever the hell they want and come back with pretty much full health. Their high mobility makes them very hard to successfully keep pinned down so they re-engage the fight back at full health while you’re still being beaten on for the second they’re in your range.

This is coming from the perspective of a guardian though whose range DPS is lols and general mobility is pretty weak.

I don’t know about you but they would have to be really terrible Thief players to die to any Guardian

How to escape from a Guardian
1) Press Shadowstep
2) If Guardian somehow catches up to you, use Shadow Return.
3) If he still is on your tail, stealth and run somewhere.

Simple and fail proof. I don’t even use Shadowstep, and can count on one hand the number of times I’ve died to a solo Guardian. Obviously I don’t always win, but dying is just out of the question.

I’m not going to write a long post about why roaming Thieves are broken, but it really should be obvious from the massive number of Thieves that something is wrong.

Of the ones I successfully kill:

Some are downed on their first assault on me (the complete glass cannons) when I put my symbol down and hit whirling wrath (I am a DPS heavy guard).

Some stick with me because I’m getting low and don’t get away quick enough, I change to scepter and although it sucks I can immobilise them and finish them off with scepter 2.

Some again stick with me because I’m getting low but underestimate how much damage I can and get downed instead of me.

But yeah the rest pretty much just run away if they’re in trouble. For what it’s worth, and maybe I play in some bizarro universe, most thiefs I “beat” in a 1v1 stick around for death rather than run away.

I’ve been meaning to make this thread for a while.

I seem to have lots of trouble beating engineers in 1v1 on my Guard. I win more 1v1s than I lose against pretty much every other profession. Mesmers would be the next hardest after engineers for me personally, but I don’t think I am alone there. I don’t know if it is just bad luck that I run into talented Engineers or whether or not I am doing something fundamentally wrong. I suppose it is worth noting that Engineer is the class I know the least about.

So two questions

1. Does anyone else have problems against engineers as a guardian?

2. If you are consistently successful against engineers, what type of guardian are you rolling with?

I guess I’m trying to work out whether this is a problem with my build or a problem with my playstyle. I don’t expect a build to have the same results against all professions but it feels like something is amiss that I can handle most other professions with a much better success rate than I can engineers.

FTR, I am stacking a fair bit of power/prec in my gear, with tough/vit trait-lines and shout utilities + Signet of Judgment. I run with GS and Scepter/Shield.

Tl;dr? Is there a trick to engineers, am I having bad luck finding all the good ones or is it an issue with my build (I’d prefer it be the latter, I can handle having one bogey profession).

Maybe I need to hit the wiki page up on Engineer or something.

I love roaming on my Guardian in WvW, but I do have some noticeable weaknesses (mobility being #1). I win more 1v1s than I lose.

Garh.6728:

Thieves are just annoying:

1. As a guardian I tried to stop a thief running and set up a Line of Warding. The thief used Dagger Storm and was able to go through.

Staff isn’t the way to go against thieves imo, unless you were talking about a group situation.

Garh.6728:

2. I just had a 2vs2 against two thieves. So one thief went down and just before we were finishing him off, the other thief used Shadow Refuge (or whatever it was). So both thieves got invisible, the one was revived and they were able to escape.

That’s a lot of fun, right?!

Shadow refuge? Shield skill 5 knocks them out 90% of the time.

I beat 90% of thieves I run into on my Guardian (a small % of this would include those that run away/call in the support) however the very good ones still cause me some problems. That’s working as intended imo, better players beating lesser players. I have high DPS and an abundance of retaliation though so the glass cannon types are laughable for the way I run my Guardian.

However, I think the main problem with thieves above all else is their ability to dis-engage the fight whenever the hell they want and come back with pretty much full health. Their high mobility makes them very hard to successfully keep pinned down so they re-engage the fight back at full health while you’re still being beaten on for the second they’re in your range.

This is coming from the perspective of a guardian though whose range DPS is lols and general mobility is pretty weak.

Aeros.2046:

I made 400 badges of honor wiping SBI in Eternal today. All your chest thumping was laughable. Your eternal commanders are absolutely terrible. We decided to see if you actually were as awesome in open field combat as you claimed.

You were not. When the going got tough, you guys cowered behind walls like you have been saying we were doing all week. The only time you won was when you got the drop on us, or outnumbered us 2 to 1. If I had a gold for how many times I saw SBI run away from us, I would buy my legendary. And don’t even start. I know you saw my guild early in the night. There were only 13 of us and it took you 50 people and 5 minutes to clear us out of Speldan. That was also me at Mendons gap, Pulling your entire zerg while Zara flipped your corner. And it was my 13 guys again, killing 30 of you at the water gate of overlook. Also, Anet better not call me out on this post for saying this truth, because I saw Anet players in the SBI zerg blob. As for you guys running away, our portal bombs caught your zergs in the middle of those chicken runs, and I could loot off the ones who did not run away fast enough.

I am nothing but pleased that for at least 1 night, we interrupted your server killing karma farm. Once the Pink Zerg hit full force, you guys were dying like flies and the the karma farming came to a sudden and complete halt. Not so easy for your zerg blob to flip wooden towers when their is another force hitting you, now is it. Oh, and Overlook Keep has not been flipped ONCE this match up. Not since reset night.

Seriously, at least your borderlands crew knows how to fight. The Eternal SBI are absolutely aweful and I still have nothing but disdain for them. I don’t even want to hear about Borlis Pass having more people then SBI. After the fights tonight, I know this is a filthy lie. You guys are not outnumbered. You just suck at grand strategy. Simple as that. I hope your borderlads crew got nothing but pleasure from listening to your desperate cries for help. And don’t lie, I know the moment we wiped your zerg for the 5th time at Rogues quarry, you ran to the borderlands map to beg for it.

I hope my angry posting serves as a wake up call for SBI. I am not mad because your eternal crew sucks. I am mad because I know there are a whole bunch of people on your server who know what right looks like and are reduced to the biblical wailing and gnashing of teeth to try and get it. Note, that the one time SBI managed to take a keep in our borderlands was the night we focused on eternal.

Stonemist does NOT win WvW. Stonemist is the icing on the cake when everything else is stable. Keeps win WvW. This is why whenever your karma farm in eternal touched Overlook, it died. Every. Single. Time. 1/5 of the point differential between us and SBI is from us holding Shadaran Hills Alone, not counting those nights we flipped your borderlands all together.

And spoilers, we built our strategy behind this week on intel received from Ehmry Bay. They told us that the moment you guys flip Stonemist, you just sit on it to the detriment of everything else. They were right.

Take a deep breath, log out, and go outside and enjoy the day.

GSSBlunaspike.4153:

Amurond.4590:

A LOT of SBIers do not care about winning the match-up.

Good, because you don’t seem to be able to. I just don’t understand how you guys got higher ranked than bp, or ar. Nothing against you personally but as for wvw both are above you in tactics alone.

BP outnumbers SBI yet SBI was struck hard by by both BP and AR at the beginning of the match-up because we were higher ranked. Pretty funny in hindsight. I’m guessing AR nor SBI realised just how much coverage and numbers that BP had.

We’re higher ranked because we moved our way up the tiers by beating our opponents. You know, the usual way servers move up ranks. We’re losing this match-up for a variety of reasons, shoddy tactics inclusive. However let’s not play ignorant and pretend BP haven’t gained numbers recently.

Also, some people are delusional and somehow think that our huge numbers at particular times should = good coverage and don’t realise our numbers are very sporadic, once US prime time is over we could have a 330 tic or a 130 tic, it’s very up and down depending on the day.

Always funny listening to the server with the most players start the crap talking, lol. What would a wvw thread be without it? We da best because we got da most people!

GSSBlunaspike.4153:

Oh and consider it pried.

We got asked to help on eb, but only had 7 people to fight the ar/sbi. Not saying you guys were allied, just that you were fighting our guards together and not fighting each other =P. Either way we still held out. Just don’t have the numbers to compete. It’s cool though, we still win this week =)

“Just don’t have the numbers to compete.” – lol

Anyway I don’t care about any of what you just said since the comment wasn’t directed at you, it was a friendly jibe at the dude who ranted and raved about being zerged but also said SBI wouldn’t have their hills back.

Oh and consider it pried.

Have to laugh at this guy ranting pretty much just because his smaller guild group got wiped by SBI’s EB zerg. It’s been explained several times but I’ll say it again to see if it gets through. A LOT of SBIers do not care about winning the match-up. Yes, that is frustrating for those of who do, but unfortunately it is the truth. The majority of those zergs are pugs/karma trains/PVErs or whatever you want to call them. It is a huge zerg because the aforementioned join up with zee EB team who are actually there for PPT.

EB is the easiest to roll (for karma, lvling, etc) with a big zerg because other servers playing for points know it’s more important to defend your BLs and have most of their numbers there. That’s why SBI will often have a huge EB zerg rather than focusing on BLs, and it all comes back to the fact that we lack dedicated WVWers compared to our opponents. It’s pretty obvious if you’ve been in a match-up with us, just look at what happens in EB throughout the week.

The funniest part is when people (who have been rolled by the zerg) come here and tell us what we already know and act like they are the first to notice.

The only thing more numerous than the baddies in this match up are the uplvled folk. Jeebus AR and BP are full of them! Do SBI have ridiculous amounts too? I’m not complaining, made the daily go quicker.

Also who was that Necro commander from [Lost] at AP on EB yesterday? Intriguing.

Shanks R Us.2489:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruySfKMqzEc

Hmm I can’t remember exactly but I may have ran into you in the last match. I’m an Asura Guardian with Volcanus. I suck against Engineers though so hopefully if I did run into you, you weren’t filming :P

Oh and I can’t believe people still get mad about being emoted after death almost a year on. It happens, it’s just an emote. Calm blue ocean…

RageExpert.2453:

SBI is no threat at all..

lol