Guild Wars 2

Ryan.6951:

ArcTheFallen.7682:

But it doesn’t hurt to add more.

But… it does when “more” is just stat levels over time. It’s the very core of gear treadmills that anet opposed so strongly up until now. They went to great lengths to make videos and Q&As describing in detail why they thought this was so bad.

So… why are they backtracking so hard over 5 years of game design?

Ah, sorry I think you took it out of context. I’m saying it wouldn’t hurt to add another layer of rarity ontop of exotics inbetween legendaries. Regardless of stats. I later mentioned that for issues with stats I cannot say anything about it.

I find spirit weapons the best utility set underwater.

I have 100% map exploration on all my alts.

Jamais vu.5284:

I’m not a fan of melodramatic TV soap operas and I’m not a fan of your post.

Not cool. While I disagree with most of his points, you have to at least lay out your fair share of discussion.

“Stealth is useless in WvW.”

As a Guardian, I will say…I am not ready whatsoever for underwater combat and would like a trainer to be present in the hub if we have to constantly change from land to water. :\

Gronba.8621:

Not admitting that this is a gear treadmill is not realizing the facts or simply not telling the truth.

Gear treadmills are much like a zombie-plague – either you escape before it escalates or you will eventually become one of the zombies moaning incomprehensively about more nourishment right after you are done with what you have just gotten. GW2 was my safe haven from the zombies, come this Friday I will be on the search for a new place where I don’t have to listen to the zombies moan and more importantly where I dont turn into an elitist antisocial motherKITTEN again…

Orrrr you could just get legendary weapons and never have to worry about being not on par with the new tiers. And then wait til legendary armor comes out and do the same. DONE.

Ryan.6951:

Arc, if tiers are about attainability then there are already dozens of tier bridging named exotics of varying prices.

Rusttooth all the way up to Foefire. 2g to 200g. That “gap” between exotics and legendaries is already filled with all kinds of attainability options between exotics and legendaries.

I mean I understand what you are saying. But it doesn’t hurt to add more. And they are easier to get than legendaries it seems like. If you disagree with the stats of the new gear, I cannot say anything about that, it’s all about preference.

Nayru.4537:

Why have you posted this in the discussion section? What are people supposed to discuss? All you did was say how much you love the game, can’t you email Anet and tell them if you love it that much?

Nah, now we can all discuss how much we love Anet. Chill haha

Ryan.6951:

Arc why are you considering legendaries and exotics different tiers? Statwise they are identical. There’s no gulf, no separation, nothing that needs bridging.

The original plan was to have top tier, and top tier with very rare skins. The only gap they’re filling is one they’re creating just to fill. And they’re filling it with a core game mechanic that gw2 was built to avoid. It’s this kind of wishy-washy direction that anet is showing that has us worried.

I don’t insist…but whether their original plan was that or not, I’m not sure. But it makes sense to me.
https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/linsey-murdock-unveils-new-high-end-ascended-gear/

“You’ll also see more Legendary items in the future and an update to our existing Legendary weapons. Legendary items were always intended to be on par with other “best-in-slot” items. So fear not, all existing Legendary weapons, which are currently on par with Exotics, will be upgraded to be on par with Ascended weapons at the same time that we add Ascended weapons to the game. Thus Legendaries will remain “best-in-slot” items. All Legendary items going forward will be of Ascended power. We also have plans to add more fun ways to acquire Legendary precursor items with a more “scavenger hunt” feel than they are acquired currently.”

Edit: Tiers were about attainability not stats. Exotics are easier than ascended, and ascended are easier than legendaries.

Loumy.7841:

ArcTheFallen.7682:

Ryan.6951:

You have no idea how many copies I’ve purchased for friends and family. $60 isn’t even close. Nowhere near.

You obviously didn’t read the post. It’s not about thoughts on ascended gear. That’s what you get for replying before reading though.

Ah, you are right it’s slightly different. But regardless, it’s an incomplete game imho. They laid out the tiers
exotic —-—> legendary
exotic —-—> ascended —-——-> legendary

Tier list hasn’t grown, it just has more depth. Updates are completing this game. If they were finished, they’d have an expansion out already. You paid $60 (per game) which is like any other game, I hope you at least got your money’s worth along with whoever else you bought the game for. Maybe in the future, when they complete the game and know how it’s all laid out, you’ll be less disappointed.

There was no difference between Exotics and Legendaries up until this patch. So no, they’re not adding depth, they’re adding a gap.

They are moving legendaries up to the level of ascended stats and there is more depth. Because you can get exotics easier than ascended, and ascended easier than legendaries. That’s depth.

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/linsey-murdock-unveils-new-high-end-ascended-gear/

Ryan.6951:

You have no idea how many copies I’ve purchased for friends and family. $60 isn’t even close. Nowhere near.

You obviously didn’t read the post. It’s not about thoughts on ascended gear. That’s what you get for replying before reading though.

Ah, you are right it’s slightly different. But regardless, it’s an incomplete game imho. They laid out the tiers
exotic —-—> legendary
exotic —-—> ascended —-——-> legendary

Tier list hasn’t grown, it just has more depth. Updates are completing this game. If they were finished, they’d have an expansion out already. You paid $60 (per game) which is like any other game, I hope you at least got your money’s worth along with whoever else you bought the game for. Maybe in the future, when they complete the game and know how it’s all laid out, you’ll be less disappointed.

Edit: Any suggestion should go into the suggestions forum.

@OP, there is a thread for this. https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Thoughts-on-Ascended-Gear-Merged-threads/page/162#post729913

krookie.6378:

ArcTheFallen.7682:

Fungalfoot.7213:

They already did cave in to the vocal minority by introducing this form of progression.

We’re just asking for them to rethink the decision. This isn’t WoW and it really shouldn’t be.

Hm, this isn’t Gw1 either. Neutral party here though.

No it’s not GW1 but it was advertised to follow a similar philosophy when it comes to gear.

Right. Totally agree, but it’s still not good to compare it to a game that’s completely irrelevant. This is a new game. Not an expansion. Refer to the promise not another game.

BBilbo.9641:

This really isn’t about who’s the “vocal minority.” And it’s not about weather or not the new gear is legitimately more powerful or only slightly.

That’s really not the big picture, here.

This is about the basic gameplay standards and promises made by Anet, in the Guild Wars 2 Manifesto, AMAs, and press releases during development.

Arenanet. Don’t after-the-fact change the product that we already paid for.

I think the bigger picture here is the success of the business. Revenue drives these companies, it’s not a not-for-profit effort. Casual players…sad to say do not generate as much revenue has hardcore player/competitive players. Whether you consider there move smart business-wise is up to you, but I can see why they would do this. But only time will tell how it pans out.

2 things:

1. You could have probably gone to an amusement park for 1 day for $60 and be happier than paying $60 for 3 months worth of gameplay? Eh.

2. There is a thread for this kind of post: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Thoughts-on-Ascended-Gear-Merged-threads/page/162#post729913

tl;dr calm down ppl. It isn’t really much of a treadmill nor do they intend it to me.

+1 Can’t wait to play Monday (will be gone for the weekend). You should get a raise for positivity

Fungalfoot.7213:

They already did cave in to the vocal minority by introducing this form of progression.

We’re just asking for them to rethink the decision. This isn’t WoW and it really shouldn’t be.

Hm, this isn’t Gw1 either. Neutral party here though.

StormcrowX.9236:

OP is vocal minority. 85% of statistics are made up. This thread is bull.

Something doesn’t seem right about your number either, :P.

In terms of holding gw2 to gw1 standards, I say nay. If a person or group designed guitars and they were really good, but decided to switch to violins. It doesn’t seem right to tell them they can’t. Regardless if they are a franchise of guitars and want to move onto something different, it’s unfair to stop them from doing something new (relative to them). So if you really loved gw1, go play gw1, I’m sorry it has no more updates planned for it, but gw2 is a different game made by the same people.

In regards to the broken promise debate, yeah, I’ll give you that one, they did kinda let people down on what the inferred from their ads. But by all means, GW2 is not GW1.

Satans Chosen.1024:

I don’t entire understand your OP.

1. Is the title of your post a rhetorical question?
2. I gather you hated D3 so you trolled months on their forums AFTER you stopped playing.
3. It also sounds like you really like GW2 so you can’t understand why people would complain on the forums.

The only conclusion I can draw is you feel you are perfectly entitled to troll if you hate something, but no one has the right to complain about anything you love. The result is your trolling about other people the post instead of GW2. I guess the answer to your question, if it wasn’t rhetorical, is “yes.” This forum is more like D3 forum (based on what you shared) thanks in no small part to this thread.

Technically no one has given any real part in any of these threads, it’s whether you feel like you appreciate the content more than a broken promise. Every side has the same reasons re-said over and over again comprimsed of 7000+ “nuh uh” and “yea uh”. So I will accept this OP like the huge risen thread.

greg.3792:

If 75% of 10,000 forum posters cry foul at item progression I would say that would be statistically significant.

Hrm. There aren’t 10,000 forum posters though. Just about less than 7500 though given that some are positives and a lot are probably reposts. Plus, making 7500 people angry doesn’t not amount to gaining 10,000 new players. Great business move. Good publicitiy move? I can’t speak for anyone, but for me, idc.

Braces yourselves, the risen posters are coming.

Swoo.5079:

Kript.3291:

Swoo.5079:

Kript.3291:

Swoo.5079:

Kana.6793:

My guild has over 400 members. All I’ve seen in game are people excited about the new dungeon and people debating whether or not infusions mean the mursaat are about to make a comeback.

People in LA map chat and dungeon pugs are playing as normal. The only place I’ve seen hysterical rage about the patch is on these forums.

Plus they’ve already said there will not be a new tier of gear every 3 months, there will only be Ascended and Legendaries added. It’s not a gear treadmill.

They have said before that exotics would be the highest stat tier, that the game wasn’t about collecting stronger gear, etc.

They backtracked on that, how do I know they won’t backtrack on this new statement either?

That is the problem of backtracking on fundamental core principles, whatever you say next about philosophies and whatnot is meaningless.

We won’t know if the Ascended gear are going to be stronger until it actually comes out. As far as I’m concerned, it is a set of armor that’s actually worse than exotic because it is incapable of carrying rune set bonus. It is meant to be use as something of a gating gear for the new type of dungeon, which consisted 9 mini dungeon within the dungeon itself.

Do continue to speculate though. I’ve done my part and I’m now going back to the game. Hanging about forum is against my philosophy. Next time my brother wants me to do it I’ll just let him use my account.

We don’t know?

They show a Ascendant counter part to exotics that has higher stats and it has the jewels stats as inherent bonuses, just Higher.

They say legendaries will be upgraded to reflect ascendant stats, since legendary are to remain the bis.

They say ascendant is a new tier to bridge exotic and legendary.

What else do you need?
Do you need to be shot to know a bullet will hurt?

Not even going to bother with this weak post.

The fact that you missed the crucial part of the screenshot – which is lack of rune set bonus on those ascended gears – makes you unworthy of response. No one knows whats gonna go in those infusion slot yet. We only know Ascended gears have better base stats. Does that make them better? who knows? Are you a dev?

I’m done. I’m not gonna sit here and reply to everyone who couldn’t be bothered to double check the screenshot and shot down every whine-bot I ever come across. The forum is filled to the brim with the likes of you.

Go on, spend your day saying the same thing over and over again. Huddle around each other like the worlds ending and your the last of the mankind that’s carrying a dying fire. To an outsider, you are all just whiners anyway.

Rings have no rune slots.

Fact: the ascendant ring in the picture is better than the exotic ring in the picture.

Fact: upgrade components could outweight infusion slot components. It’s a mix between power and usability. I can use sigils to attack flame legion specifically and it’s more powerful for me in CoF. But it would be useless in a place like Queensdale. Just saying there’s ambiguity.

Edit: Did not actually check the screenshot so I could be wrong. But this could be a food for thought if the stats were lower than the current exotic sets with upgrades.

Swoo.5079:

Kript.3291:

Swoo.5079:

Kript.3291:

Swoo.5079:

Kana.6793:

My guild has over 400 members. All I’ve seen in game are people excited about the new dungeon and people debating whether or not infusions mean the mursaat are about to make a comeback.

People in LA map chat and dungeon pugs are playing as normal. The only place I’ve seen hysterical rage about the patch is on these forums.

Plus they’ve already said there will not be a new tier of gear every 3 months, there will only be Ascended and Legendaries added. It’s not a gear treadmill.

They have said before that exotics would be the highest stat tier, that the game wasn’t about collecting stronger gear, etc.

They backtracked on that, how do I know they won’t backtrack on this new statement either?

That is the problem of backtracking on fundamental core principles, whatever you say next about philosophies and whatnot is meaningless.

We won’t know if the Ascended gear are going to be stronger until it actually comes out. As far as I’m concerned, it is a set of armor that’s actually worse than exotic because it is incapable of carrying rune set bonus. It is meant to be use as something of a gating gear for the new type of dungeon, which consisted 9 mini dungeon within the dungeon itself.

Do continue to speculate though. I’ve done my part and I’m now going back to the game. Hanging about forum is against my philosophy. Next time my brother wants me to do it I’ll just let him use my account.

We don’t know?

They show a Ascendant counter part to exotics that has higher stats and it has the jewels stats as inherent bonuses, just Higher.

They say legendaries will be upgraded to reflect ascendant stats, since legendary are to remain the bis.

They say ascendant is a new tier to bridge exotic and legendary.

What else do you need?
Do you need to be shot to know a bullet will hurt?

Not even going to bother with this weak post.

The fact that you missed the crucial part of the screenshot – which is lack of rune set bonus on those ascended gears – makes you unworthy of response. No one knows whats gonna go in those infusion slot yet. We only know Ascended gears have better base stats. Does that make them better? who knows? Are you a dev?

I’m done. I’m not gonna sit here and reply to everyone who couldn’t be bothered to double check the screenshot and shot down every whine-bot I ever come across. The forum is filled to the brim with the likes of you.

Go on, spend your day saying the same thing over and over again. Huddle around each other like the worlds ending and your the last of the mankind that’s carrying a dying fire. To an outsider, you are all just whiners anyway.

Rings have no rune slots.

Runes/upgrade components/sigils haha you know what it means

Swoo.5079:

Kript.3291:

Swoo.5079:

Kana.6793:

My guild has over 400 members. All I’ve seen in game are people excited about the new dungeon and people debating whether or not infusions mean the mursaat are about to make a comeback.

People in LA map chat and dungeon pugs are playing as normal. The only place I’ve seen hysterical rage about the patch is on these forums.

Plus they’ve already said there will not be a new tier of gear every 3 months, there will only be Ascended and Legendaries added. It’s not a gear treadmill.

They have said before that exotics would be the highest stat tier, that the game wasn’t about collecting stronger gear, etc.

They backtracked on that, how do I know they won’t backtrack on this new statement either?

That is the problem of backtracking on fundamental core principles, whatever you say next about philosophies and whatnot is meaningless.

We won’t know if the Ascended gear are going to be stronger until it actually comes out. As far as I’m concerned, it is a set of armor that’s actually worse than exotic because it is incapable of carrying rune set bonus. It is meant to be use as something of a gating gear for the new type of dungeon, which consisted 9 mini dungeon within the dungeon itself.

Do continue to speculate though. I’ve done my part and I’m now going back to the game. Hanging about forum is against my philosophy. Next time my brother wants me to do it I’ll just let him use my account.

We don’t know?

They show an Ascendant ring and its current exotic counter part, that has higher stats and it has the jewels stats as inherent bonuses, just Higher.

They say legendaries will be upgraded to reflect ascendant stats, since legendary are to remain the bis.

They say ascendant is a new tier to bridge exotic and legendary.

What else do you need?
Do you need to be shot to know a bullet will hurt?

There is benefit of doubt and there is refusal of reality.

Hm, what I think Kript was saying is that…look at it this way.

Exotic Rings/Back Pieces can have upgrade components.
From what I understand, Ascended cannot. Ascended has infusion slots.

Given that information, Exotics can be more powerful than Ascended still. Again, just a scenario and some people hope for this as well.

The base stats of Ascended > Exotic.
But if the infusion slot used for Ascended is geared for specific dungeons only then it has no effect on anything we do right now and in fact, it would be better to use Exotics than Ascended and like some people would like, it would be gated for only that specific dungeon content (which is okay, because I hope you gear grind for a dungeon only if you want to do the dungeon).

Best example of this would be if an infusion upgrade gave you 20% more damage on enemies only existent in the dungeon. Well, that’s nice right?

Edit: Doing 20% more damage to an enemy would make the gear stronger but not necessarily useful as exotics.

nachtnebel.9168:

I will spell it out for you too:
Arena Net will lose more costumers if the implement a Gear Treadmill like they are about to do. All those who bought GW2 cause they were told that their won’t be any Gear Treadmill probably won’t spend money on expansion packs or the gem store.

Just cause you think Arena Net is doing the right thing doesn’t mean that they do what the community wants. What the community wants and what earns Arena Net the most money is not neccessarily the same thing. Pissing off costumers to a certian degree nets you more money than making everybody happy.

So…I am not a part of this community. And no, gaining players for the population of the world can amount to billions of players as opposed to the 6000 complainers (give or take 1000 positive posters in that thread). kthxbye

chtiyonki.6284:

Danicco.3568:

Berserker is the best one for damage, no contest here.

I’m not agree, dead you do 0 damage.

Well damage =/= dps. You can still deal out high damage, but yes dps is 0 if you are dead. But no point in speccing in vit and armor when adding 200 toughness or 2000 vit still results in the boss 2 shotting you—maybe if the additional defensive stats gives you 1 more hit tolerance that makes sense, but it’s a wasted investment otherwise (I guess there’s condition dmg and mobs, but a well-balanced build can usually take those on well). There are different cases for everything so I’m just giving you an example.

Tarn.1374:

I do understand where you’re coming from. It can be annoying. But on the other hand, that’s battle; the enemy wants you to die.

So, I’m not so sure. I think it’s nice that there are a couple – the troll freeze is another one – of conditions/states that you just have to get out of the way/mitigate or else you’re effected and can’t do anything about.

More importantly I think it’s a useful learning curve for dungeon critters and other tougher enemies, where you have to prevent the condition, not cure it, or else you’re in serious trouble.

True…but idk if you’ve ever faced the Priest of Dwayna…she petrifies without any possibiity of dodging it. So it’s just annoying to have to sit there every 3-4 seconds and wait for someone to throw an object at you. But I guess that’s part of the gameplay. Idk, I just wish it was done a little better so it wasn’t so reptitive.

So…I have no idea why there are some conditions you cannot 1. stun break or 2. condition remove. I feel like one or the other should be able to get you out of these overpowered conditions. Anyways, I do not know why petrification is so gosu. Please allow condition removals to remove these conditions as well.

Ascended weapons aren’t coming out this update so we can hold off dealing with exotic weapons for now.

Aedelric.1287:

Leablo.2651:

Great. Now please stop creating new threads that say the same thing in different ways. This isn’t your blog.

Nor is this forum subject to what topics that only you find acceptable. If you are not interested in his posts, then just ignore them.

As for the original post, you can not change people and no amount of topics will ever do that.

Agreed, but it was worth a shot. Thread closed.

Leablo.2651:

Great. Now please stop creating new threads that say the same thing in different ways. This isn’t your blog.

Lol. They were two different things. I guess you should start posting on other threads telling everyone the same thing. But thanks for the heads up.

It’s the community, not the game. People hate elitists, elitists hate pugs. If people never met an elitist they would more than likely never have cared about your gear nor even know that it mattered. I for one don’t know what any of my guildmates are wearing and I love partying with them for them.

What the game does will never change the community. Only you can change. So if you hate gear grinds, don’t do it, find people who are willing to accept you for you.

You are the one forcing this game to be competitive. Not Anet.

ExpiredLifetime.1083:

Serpenti.6753:

Don’t let these few whining posters ruin the plans for the future of GW2.

To the forum QQ’s – No one is forcing you to get this new ‘slightly’ better gear. You will still be able to do 100% of what everyone else is doing whether you choose to get complete this new content or not, so seriously just because you choose to not be on board with one update doesn’t justify a forum uproar, the patch is coming so start dealing with it. Wipe your eyes and move on. I bet you all are the same people that QQ on the forums about there being no end game, guess what here is Anet’s solution to giving you more end game, and what do you do, you freaking cry! No game is going to push out updates that you 100% agree with, so start adding your critiques in a supportive fashion. Not QQQQQQQQQQ.

People are in an outrage, not because its a change, but because its a change that was promised would never happen.

I’m pretty sure we’ve all read that risen forum.

I’ll help you play if you need help. And let’s try to not* generalize, if it affects you, it affects you. I’m a casual player and I find it fine.

Wow. Haters are worse than the risen. just infecting any forum trying to say good job. There is a different thread for complaints ya kno -_-. Anyways, I support the positive. good job anet!

End-game should be within the eye of the beholder. To me, it’s a sandbox to do whatever I want, when I want.

Everything here is relative. If you have displeasement, okay, that should be voiced out and you have all rights too. But a few things:

1. Not everyone who wants gear progression plays WoW
2. Not everyone here who hates the new armor tier plays Gw1
3. Not everyone here in these forums makes up all of the game
4. Not everyone in map chat makes up all of the game
5. If you are not a data steward and have access to the data and actual numbers, refrain from making numerical claims that you cannot prove to the finest detail.

I don’t mind the debates, but I can’t stand bad claims. I can stand opinions, even strong opinions, just not people who think they know the facts. Anyways, thanks for your time.

Ibsen.4057:

Your 1% vs “loyal base” is all opinion and have no facts to prove how many want this or that. Ill tell you this though, its higher then 1%

This. Just because you live on an island where everyone agrees with you doesn’t mean that everyone else in the world that you did not know existed doesn’t count. Stop making stupid statistical claims if you my friend, do not have any access to the actual database.

Accipiter Striatus.1862:

I bought this game because I thought I could WvW without having to do PvE grind.

Please don’t suddenly change this game into something else.

You do not need gear to do WvW.

Aaron.4807:

I love how the mods are just throwing all the threads made to protest this kitten into this thread to mitigate the extreme negative view that this change in manifesto has garnered.

Keep up the good work, maybe no one will notice that everyone hates this.

Positive threads are being thrown hear too but it’s overwhelmed by negatives which makes it hard to recognize people who actually like the new content. It hurts both sides.

Feycat.4370:

xeph.8410:

Hydrophidian.4319:

A distributor.

I suspect that ANet wasn’t responding to forum feedback here. I suspect this development is more due to pressure from the Big Bosses, who seem to think there is only one template for a successful MMO.

You see, as someone who played City of Heroes for 8 years, I’ve been here before. The common denominator: NCSoft.

At its heart, I think this is all the result of: 1. culture clash and 2. a dysfunctional corporate methodology (that is plaguing just about every big distributor these days, not just NCSoft).

I suspect that if ANet had been left to its own devices, we wouldn’t be seeing this shift in design trajectory. Unfortunately, a great deal is resting on the success of this title, and NCSoft has recently restructured and ‘streamlined’ its focus.

In light of that, this all makes a certain amount of (depressing) sense.

As someone who hasn’t played any other NCSoft subsidiary title before, could you provide further details? I’m interested in knowing how it turned out for you in City of Heroes. Did the developers manage to stick to their guns in the end? Since you played it for eight years I imagine you must have enjoyed the game despite issues like this coming up.

No, they didn’t.

6 years in, they caved and added an “endgame” to a game that didn’t have one and didn’t need one – large-scale raids like WoW’s, at a time when even WoW was pulling back from that style because it’s not rewarding to a mature gamer playerbase (players aren’t mostly teens anymore – they’re adults with jobs and families.)

Then the game went F2P.

NCsoft shutters it at the end of the month.

It was a phenomenal game, and much like GW2, was a “the journey is the reward” style game, with a unique progression system, sidekicking/upleveling, cosmetics being your only visible “gear” and your actual +stats gear invisible, and a lot of other remarkable things like being able to craft and publish your own quests in-game. It was unique in the MMO market.

Lol, “mature” playerbase isn’t so mature now. Maybe age was, but not character-wise.

Vorch.2985:

Vena.8436:

Vorch.2985:

Frostfang Legendary Axe
http://www.gw2db.com/items/56205-frostfang

Carrion Pearl Reaver
http://www.gw2db.com/items/56379-carrion-pearl-reaver

Stats are not identical…

You sir, are an idiot.
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Meteorlogicus
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Storm

Way to use data from before the release of the kitten game.

Yup, i made a mistake…therefore I’m an idiot. My bad.

and the community shows it’s true colors…gg peeps. I’ll let you guys enjoy the hyperbole chamber.

Yeah, sorry Vorch, apparently that’s what die-hard philosophy people will say to you when you make a mistake :\

Vorch.2985:

Gingelyr.3648:

Vorch.2985:

ANet adds a tier so that people can attain stats closer to that of a legendary.

You’re so uninformed. Exotics have identical stats to legendaries. Check the wiki if you don’t believe me.

Frostfang Legendary Axe
http://www.gw2db.com/items/56205-frostfang

Carrion Pearl Reaver
http://www.gw2db.com/items/56379-carrion-pearl-reaver

Stats are not identical…

Yeah, I have a legendary already, stats are the same. gw2db is outdated stat-wise.

Honestly, this is worse than the presidential debate.

One thing I’d like to encourage, is to speak for yourself. A lot of people assume things when it comes to who plays what beforehand, who is a gw1 vet, etc. A majority is something we cannot conclude given we are not the data stewards. Please, just speak for yourself. It’s annoying the heck out of me. regardless of this is a record-breaking thread. You have no numbers so quit making stupid claims.

Shunsui Jiraiya.9103:

@ ArcTheFallen.7682

Your right, we need to calm down.

However I have made mistakes in a professional capacity before and held my hands up to it early. I laid my cards down and explained the situation as well as offering apologies and a clear path for those impacted to regain any lost assets.

If this line of action was taken days ago I would be much more amicable. The company have decided to hunker down and let the frustration ebb around them.

Not 1 post to acknowledge that people are upset and they are listening after around 5000 comments here. A signature of a direct quote around there own standards is a balanced response.

They have to be careful about what they say. Cause a majority of these people will ridicule anything close to imperfect.

I’m going to take a daring step and say…Good job Anet, thanks for giving us great content!