Guild Wars 2

I must say this is a good match for me. AR is performing exactly as expected: very well! ET, on the other hand, has broken my every expectation in half. I half expected us to be spawn camping you on everything except for reset night. I’m very impressed. In the end, the only thing saving Darkhaven is sheer numbers, and we’ll see if that’ll save us the entire week.

Eredon Beastmode tonight… ugh.

totalpwnage.6534:

Ezrael.6859:

Who’s the Darkhaven General, an Engineer wearing purple from [SotG].

The one that stands within range of 5 guards, or with 9 allies right behind him and won’t come forward for a 1v1. Just stands and /laughs.

The one that /laughs when he’s 10m from his own gate and castle and won’t come to 1v1 a solo Guardian with 300 ping, no allies behind, no guard or gate within 1000m.

I dare you to come 1v1, that means just you, no allies and no running back in range of guards during the fight.

I dare you to come and actually see a 1v1 through.

It’s a video game, dying means nothing. Stop running away, stop /laughing, you embarrass yourself as you don’t have the courage to even 1v1 in a game.

You can ask your mum to contact the doctor and get you a prescription for some testosterone injections if you really don’t have the stones for it.

You’re that berserker guardian right? The one who would bait people back to the sentry guard? The one who I beat atleast twice in a 1v1? The one who stood on the wall of anz and /laughed himself? The one who ran back into the tower when it was a fair 6v6? Seriously, don’t talk kitten when you ain’t perfect. PM me anytime for another duel

Ugh, why did you have to be justified in your taunting? We all could have verbally assaulted you on here if you didn’t. Noob.

Assassin X.8573:

Ezrael.6859:

Who’s the Darkhaven General, an Engineer wearing purple from [SotG].

The one that stands within range of 5 guards, or with 9 allies right behind him and won’t come forward for a 1v1. Just stands and /laughs.

The one that /laughs when he’s 10m from his own gate and castle and won’t come to 1v1 a solo Guardian with 300 ping, no allies behind, no guard or gate within 1000m.

I dare you to come 1v1, that means just you, no allies and no running back in range of guards during the fight.

I dare you to come and actually see a 1v1 through.

It’s a video game, dying means nothing. Stop running away, stop /laughing, you embarrass yourself as you don’t have the courage to even 1v1 in a game.

You can ask your mum to contact the doctor and get you a prescription for some testosterone injections if you really don’t have the stones for it.

I think I know who you are talking about LoL. I don’t know his character name though. Its Ron something, the 2nd word is spelled weird.

Spankadocious (IIRC). AKA Happy. Name and shame.

Actium.8765:

melodey.4652:

Actium.8765:

To the AR zerg that keeps coming into our BL to cap bay and then leaving.

Go for garri and hills. Only 6 people will show up. Don’t let the lack of the outmanned buff deter you. No one seem to give a kitten right now.

Uh, news flash, we don’t have a night presence. You posted at 4am my time. They wouldn’t have an outmanned buff because we were all asleep. DH gets our business done during normal NA hours, so way to come to the forums to throw your server under the bus for an night defense. Our guild still had a few on late last night you could have come to AR bl to ask for assistance.

We had 20 people on to take bay and the south towers. as soon as that was over we told all of them that they would be back right before tic to recap bay. no one stayed, no one listened. EBG had plenty of people, i went there and asked for help.

So ya, when 6 people show up to defend our bl maybe we deserve to loose it.

I think he’s saying, regardless of how bad we do, it’s perhaps not the wisest move to tell our enemies where we’re weakest. Dh is a server that has recently stepped up its defensive game. But, as always, we’re pretty much 99% pugs and generally don’t run guild zergs. That’s the only thing that holds us back from being HoD level strength. As such, it’s really hard to rally a defense in BLs, as people tend to ignore team chat and just do what they want (which is usually karma train). This is even worse when you’re in the lead.

melodey.4652:

Actium.8765:

To the AR zerg that keeps coming into our BL to cap bay and then leaving.

Go for garri and hills. Only 6 people will show up. Don’t let the lack of the outmanned buff deter you. No one seem to give a kitten right now.

Uh, news flash, we don’t have a night presence. You posted at 4am my time. They wouldn’t have an outmanned buff because we were all asleep. DH gets our business done during normal NA hours, so way to come to the forums to throw your server under the bus for an night defense. Our guild still had a few on late last night you could have come to AR bl to ask for assistance.

Tis true, unfortunately. Our night time presence is just enough to hold on generally (though SoTD gets AMAZING things done with their numbers). During leagues other servers feared the night when facing us lol. Now? Not so much. Dh has really slid.

So did that ET guy down at SE camp that spotted our golems inform ET to hit bay? We noticed orange swords and figured it was you guys.

bokunocarrie.7215:

Deaddawg.9418:

Shero.3106:

So i didn’t realize DH was still so desperate that they still had to attempt to abuse a glitch that most servers don’t use anymore.. Its just reset night and i found 2 people trying to die at water gate in their own bay..

http://imgur.com/a/534ON

I don’t think any DH guild leader condones this; but, it remains pointless to post this stuff. Take the issue up with the guild itself. DH as a whole cannot control every action of every player. I’m sure no one on your server ever attempts to use this tactic xD. Leave this stuff out of this forum and go enjoy the game.

actually, we don’t. it’s a cheap tactic.

You’re not new to ET are you? You’re either wrong or lying, I’ve specifically caught ET doing this on bay twice in our previous matchup. And that’s just me. Most on Dh do not condone this behavior and have been very outspoken about it (hence the multitudes of forum posts in previous threads we have condemning such actions).

And we are not at all desperate. Darkhaven has never been a strong reset server. When the weekday comes is when we shine. We’ve been behind FC by 10k+ points in each previous matchup by the end of the weekend and end up finishing 10-15k points ahead. Nobody is stressing out over this (yet).

First Darkhaven, then Blackgate… why you beating on us poor Dh AR? Wagon rock!

Very smart moves out of the gate though. Both of you with guild zergs hitting our BL hard. That is really throwing us off.

bokunocarrie.7215:

this match up though

Yeah, I’m thinking the same thing, A tier 8, 7, and 6 server all in one match. Brilliant.

Assassin X.8573:

Way to fail at the H in DH, jorek.

Darkhaven is one word.

pwnt

Good to see you guys again! Epic roaming is soon to follow I’m sure! GL and HF to everyone.

Banzie.5248:

DH: [Anbu] I hate that thief you’ve ran with most of the week when theres like 4 of you.. Your ele and necro so squishy but the thief just resses them and you end up out dpsing us that way. Nice job though always fun to see you.

Is the necro a human wearing a grenth hood (that’s me), and is the thief a female human (that’s nuna my roaming partner)? If so, which person are you lol? Would love to know if I’d seen you out there roaming ^^.

Lethal Stranger.5093:

8,5/10

Simple, yet stylish. Probably would’ve went with something similar if my Necro was a human, although I would’ve picked other boots :P

7.5 of 10. You pull of asura quite well, something I can never manage!

Here’s mine. Mix n match, CM body, CoE pants, rest are dry bones/grenth hood.

MegaManExpert.8413:

I want to apologize to Darkhaven for the golem rush we just did on your borderland.

Why? We did it to you first, we had it coming! ^^

Cosmic.6047:

Here are some numbers.

2 images with the accumulated time of Bay and Hills for each team.

1 Image with the split score.
The numbers for the split score are as follows

BBL
Green 17360 from structures 8818 from kills
Blue 57110 from structures 19491 from kills
Red 7745 from Structures 7379 from kills

RBL

Green 12410 from structures 7731 from kills
Blue 8640 from structures 6748 from kills
Red 61310 from Structures 21130 from kills

Now you can make out of those numbers what ever you want

Lol so we’ve killed more in our BL? :O

Solstice.1097:

Banzie.5248:

Solstice.1097:

Arius.7031:

I have a feeling a lot of the time they go to FC BL cus they fail in our BL tbh. I can’t tell you how many attacks we bust day in and day out, they repeatedly fail again and again and again, then they usually end up grabbing 1 keep or something and it all falls apart. It may just be that Darkhaven tends to have more players defending our BL, IDK.

That excuse certainly doesn’t work for EB though.

that’s weird because they’re reasoning is that we put up more of a defense…. ???

which is silly because our BL is typically empty and paper once the weekday karma train begins).

I am speaking of the time frame from ~6pm pst to 8:30 pm pst. As for DH not putting up a defense, at the very least last night we came across no significant force trying to stop us at 6-6:30ish pst.

wasnt that right after their BL had been papered by FC while DH was busy paper’ing IoJ? Not that DH needed 40 omegas since we’d already papered garrison and bay both.

Thunder stealers, the lot of you!

Solstice.1097:

Arius.7031:

Banzie.5248:

Arius.7031:

I have a feeling a lot of the time they go to FC BL cus they fail in our BL tbh. I can’t tell you how many attacks we bust day in and day out, they repeatedly fail again and again and again, then they usually end up grabbing 1 keep or something and it all falls apart. It may just be that Darkhaven tends to have more players defending our BL, IDK.

That excuse certainly doesn’t work for EB though.

Why you no defend last night

We were prepping that golem rush since about 12 pm PST. Took a lot of manpower and a lot of time. We were also busy coordinating as we’re not as huge as you guys are, managing to round up 50 people for one zerg takes a LOT of time, effort, planning etc…

Fergs know that feel. 2 weeks ago, 52 omegas, HoD BL, pure destruction.

That was art. That was our inspiration.

Banzie.5248:

Arius.7031:

I have a feeling a lot of the time they go to FC BL cus they fail in our BL tbh. I can’t tell you how many attacks we bust day in and day out, they repeatedly fail again and again and again, then they usually end up grabbing 1 keep or something and it all falls apart. It may just be that Darkhaven tends to have more players defending our BL, IDK.

That excuse certainly doesn’t work for EB though.

Why you no defend last night

We were prepping that golem rush since about 12 pm PST. Took a lot of manpower and a lot of time. We were also busy coordinating as we’re not as huge as you guys are, managing to round up 50 people for one zerg takes a LOT of time, effort, planning etc…

I have a feeling a lot of the time they go to FC BL cus they fail in our BL tbh. I can’t tell you how many attacks we bust day in and day out, they repeatedly fail again and again and again, then they usually end up grabbing 1 keep or something and it all falls apart. It may just be that Darkhaven tends to have more players defending our BL, IDK.

That excuse certainly doesn’t work for EB though.

Solstice.1097:

Banzie.5248:

Solstice.1097:

yep. 10.6 is 29.3% higher than 8.2

you camped our bl for 2-3 hours yesterday until DH took the lead. this is happening again right now. your PvE karma train newbs are more annoying than HoD’s badmannered children.

[Mend] flipped the entirety of DH BL in about 45 minutes or less with no contest. We then went to FC BL. Where you guys contested us and gave us fights. I’m sorry you were more of a challenge then DH?? I cant speak for [AUX] or what they do though in the EU Prime.

we now have the lamest excuse of all time for losing. We lost to DH because we put up more of a fight than DH

lol >.< <3 it

Rofl O.o. I’d be insulted, but I’m not.

clint.5681:

I would like to give a special shout out to some forum warriors that deserve recognition.

I would like to thank SF’s forum warrior crew, we really grew over the months, couldn’t have made it here without you.

Breh and Jeknar, we had been trolling each other for months now, it’s been fun.

Ynot, Solostice, it’s been a great time

Everyone from HoD, keep training one day you can forum warrior like us (oh wait the forums are shutting down nvm)

Mooncow, thanks for keeping it original

People from AR, all the tears and infractions I harvested were worth it.

Savannah for being hilarious

Everyone who reported me for posting that .gif of cartman licking tears that got me temp banned, it was worth it.

That detective guild who always made those funny posts.
The MU guild who would stalk SF in our threads
The buns guild, just because the name was funny
Everyone who took these forums too seriously
Everyone who helped me build my waterpark that runs on tears( now where will I get them?)

All the moments where I 1 versus server on the forums and in game.

ANET for making gw2 a Carebear friendly place.

The rest of bronze league who I won’t go into detail with since I know this post has a 90% chance of being deleted.

But how can bronze league servers stalk and trash talk SF if that sub-forum is ending? This is truly the end of an era.

All is vain.

The hopes and dreams of bronze rest on you HoD. You must not fail!

Actium.8765:

Hey IOJ, meet our rich players. lol

You got an SS of me! How dare u!?

LordByron.8369:

Pay to win in the most common and less ethical example are:

1: the chance of getting advantage over other players

Examples like:
-the ability of upgrading your weapon (see infusion and extractor)*
-combat advantage over other players (revive orbs, repair canister, speed boost)
-and even the chance to get gold from real money in order to obtain the most powerful equip in game (gems to gold)

-?
-Does not work in the competitive settings (e.g. WvW and SPvP) and they’re not really combat advantages at all. They’re helpful to the entire team. P2W in the sense that you’re using it here isn’t at all how it’s intended to be used on the interwebz. If you’re helping EVERYONE by “paying to win” nobody is going to be upset that the game is pay 2 win.
-Exotics are easily obtainable after days, the gold required for certain ascended pieces is the EASY part. The gold does not matter much for the end game gear grind.

2 ability to raise a character via real moneys
-experience scrolls
-crafting boosters
-level scrolls

That’s not pay to win, and these are all found in game. Literally, I have dozens of boosters of all kinds just from playing the game, and “experience scrolls” (you mean skill point scrolls?) are now easily bought, just as level scrolls are (scrolls and tomes of knowledge, ftr).

Now if you can compare me famous free to play korean mmorpg with GW2…..

Ita has every single characteristic of a common F2p with P2W…..as you can read in many outdated reviews the ONLY difference is the access to gem with gold…

This is factually false. Korean virtually REQUIRE cash shop to level up. Take, for example, Rappelz. If you do not buy stamina savers, you’re literally going to take thousands of hours to even get close to max level. In GW2 it’s a VERY SLIGHT boost.

Solstice.1097:

Arius.7031:

Was fun while it lasted. I’m still mad at you FC. This was our chance to get IoJ just for ONE DAY, Dh had a massive zerg… you ruined it ):. It’s all your fault and I </3 you 4evr.

that wasn’t your one shot. the time is NOW. we’re pushing them on both sides keep it up see how far we can push them back

im sure IoJ will have just as much fun with it as we do1!

You keep hitting us in EB though ):.

Was fun while it lasted. I’m still mad at you FC. This was our chance to get IoJ just for ONE DAY, Dh had a massive zerg… you ruined it ):. It’s all your fault and I </3 you 4evr.

IoJ, that was 40 golems. Also, FC, you have terrible timing. Should not have hit our BL right then cus we woulda kept on sticking it to IoJ -.-.

FC, you have no idea how many people are cheering for you right now on Dh. No idea.

Solstice.1097:

lol @ IoJ thinking they are “making 2nd place fight closer” Don’t try to play God, you can’t even take out DH BL’s upgrades. You pretty much already gave DH the win, they have upgrades and momentum now, we don’t. DH could have beat us without your help, but now we’ll never know.

Play WvW not childish games for your amusement as if we’re all your kittenes. If you don’t want to lose your respect, that is.

edit: because I do like IoJ so far so cut that kitten out!

Yeah and now it’s bad for Dh. We win, no credit, it was IoJ. We lose, we lost even though IoJ was holding our hands.

Banzie.5248:

Arius.7031:

Banzie.5248:

IoJ has not faced NSP on even terms yet. CDs recent collapse only started happening for this weeks WvW hence why they are beating them. If CD loses 1-2 more guilds like they are suppose to they will likely be much like FC/DH right now and you can all have balanced match ups.

Well that sounds cool, hope it’s true!

I dont know why more and more people are getting peeved at IoJ. Sure I may have said some things at the beginning of the thread, and some DH and FC have said some things. However IoJ as a whole (As I take it from map chat), while we are glad we got this match up to recover, we really want a HoD/NSP/IoJ match up.

Is this directed at me or other people? I’m not peeved at IoJ. I have very mixed feelings towards you. Half of you are annoying, boastful, and in general just losers, and half of you are upstanding folk that I’d be proud to have on my server. If it helps, I have a negative opinion of all but three servers (aside from Dh) in the former bronze league so being “eh” to me actually means you’re beating the average.

Hehe, Not just you just in general it seems like people have been more and more hostile towards us. While I get there are boasters and what not, every server has them. We all do understand the position both of you are in, many of us sympathize as well. Glad we’re meh in you’re books though

Haha yeah, we can’t help the bad elements of our servers. I don’t blame you guys for your baddies. If it helps, posters such as yourself are helping to move IoJ beyond “meh” for me :P.

Banzie.5248:

IoJ has not faced NSP on even terms yet. CDs recent collapse only started happening for this weeks WvW hence why they are beating them. If CD loses 1-2 more guilds like they are suppose to they will likely be much like FC/DH right now and you can all have balanced match ups.

Well that sounds cool, hope it’s true!

I dont know why more and more people are getting peeved at IoJ. Sure I may have said some things at the beginning of the thread, and some DH and FC have said some things. However IoJ as a whole (As I take it from map chat), while we are glad we got this match up to recover, we really want a HoD/NSP/IoJ match up.

Is this directed at me or other people? I’m not peeved at IoJ. I have very mixed feelings towards you. Half of you are annoying, boastful, and in general just losers, and half of you are upstanding folk that I’d be proud to have on my server. If it helps, I have a negative opinion of all but three servers (aside from Dh) in the former bronze league so being “eh” to me actually means you’re beating the average.

Also, I’m not doing DH or FC any favors by focusing one of the others. However DH would have never closed this much of a gap if I didnt. Sorry I guess, Ill be sure to cap your things tomorrow lol.

K ty. We’re here to fight and not bet set up for other servers amusement (that sounds meaner than I intend it to lol) so it’s appreciated.

Banzie.5248:

Had a fun time commanding EB this morning. Started with a whopping 20 at 10 am server time this morning and ended with at least 50 just now.

Great fights this morning DH and FC. Although the continually got more and more lopsided obviously it was good fun ^-^

Yes, before anyone QQs about it, FC I am focusing your corner in the morning, I want to see how tight the battle for second will be! Dont worry if DH gets too far ahead it’s their turn

Big shout out to the few DH this morning that repelled my one overlook attempt. Glad you reminded me how annoying that keep is, I shall get it next time though

Don’t do us any favors lol. We’d like to beat FC for 2nd because we’re better, not because you gave it to us.

Odd ramblings on the status of WvW for Dh follow:

The more I reflect on this situation, the more it sucks. I mean, IoJ is supposed to be weaker than NSP right? FC and Dh are situated right at the bottom of t6 (I think), which means we’re almost always gonna have 1 server from higher going against either/both of us. And when we don’t, we’re gonna be fighting servers below us and tbh… do they really stand a chance? It’s possible, a lot has changed post league… but did it change that much? I mean, Dh sure has changed. And look at poor SF! Unfortunately, it seems like Dh and FC can only hope for a close fight from each other from now on T.T

nathanjameson.3542:

Arius.7031:

Fun fights in Dh BL garrison and hills. Felt really good to FINALLY be able to put up a fight.

I was the commander for IoJ at that time (I was the giant Norn). The half-hour fight in your garri lord’s room was one of the best fights I’ve ever been in. Felt honored that you finally brought in a golem to finish us off. ;-)

P.S. Just how many freaking warbanners did you guys have anyway???

10+ banners I’m sure. It was a LOT. I was the necro who kept plague form suiciding to stop the circle until the golem got there. That was just a fun (if panicky) fight all around. All I can say is: Thank Arenanet for citadel WP rofl.

Fun fights in Dh BL garrison and hills. Felt really good to FINALLY be able to put up a fight.

The posts above are win… Would read again. if only more forum-goers were like that lol. We can handle losing, Dh is generally a pretty gracious loser. I just personally really can’t stand boasting. That said I recognize not all of IoJ is like this and for every poster I don’t like so far, I’ve met one that is a real stand up fellow. That is not something that can be said of many servers on these forums.

Banzie.5248:

I never said it was impressive that we wiped a pug zerg first off. I understand that it isnt . As for your skepticism It was likely a rally from EB and whatever was on DH BL to try to fast retake hills. So they could very easily field 80 with that.

As my posts are directed towards people who are boasting, your response “they had 80 people!” implies that you’re arguing on the side that it is impressive. Regardless, you may realize that it’s not impressive, but my response is directed towards those that do.

Banzie.5248:

Arius.7031:

Detharos.3157:

Flappybob.1950:

Hey FC,
We heard you like to take paper maps, so we figured we would give you one to take! Too bad you didn’t remove us from the map with your 30 people earlier, now you just have to suffer the humiliation of losing your completely upgraded T3 map to 20 MEND…during NA prime time.
Merry Christmas to all, and to all a good night!

Alright, I understand everyone has their trolls and forum warriors and its not really worth it to reply and I acknowledge that this fellow doesn’t speak for all of IoJ, but regardless:

First of all, Assuming you made your post immediately after your “accomplishments” which would be fitting a boastful individual as yourself, that puts your feat cross-referenced from post time to around 11:40 PM on a Sunday. That’s not “NA primetime”, buddy. People log off at that time to get shut eye for Monday’s work schedule, in case you didn’t know.

Secondly, I don’t know why inhabitants of a previously Silver League server would see there being any merit boasting over besting a 4th in Bronze server, in any timezone. Regardless of what you want to believe, there’s a clearly large numbers disparity between you and us/Darkhaven many levels, especially in timezone coverage.

Thirdly @ the roamer comment from earlier: That’s what happens when you PvDoor us 12:00 AM-4:00 AM, of course you won’t encounter any decent roamers. I was roaming all day in NA time and the exceptional IoJ’s I’ve encountered were elite roamers who transferred from GoM who from what I see haven’t changed much with the passing of time, which is more a testament to just how awesome Gates of Madness was back in the day than to your server.

IoJ seems to think our servers are close in coverage/numbers. This is patently false. You’re doing to us what all of silver did to you, it’s not close, and it’s not worth boasting about. FC and Dh are close in numbers, IoJ is waaayyyy above both. FC defends dutifully, and the fact that they couldn’t stop you at 11 should tell you why you took their stuff.

It wasnt 11 when we papered most things in their BL. We papered FC bay around that time so okay that may not have been included, but the rest of FCs map was papered in NA prime time. At dawns the first zerg we met was at like 80. Wiped to them obviously after a couple of minutes of back and forth on the bridge choke point with our 25. Next they came hills, couldnt get in and left. Next time we found a zerg was about 50 , Managed to kill them with admittedly AC support. After that it was 30 people that we just killed like two-three times open field and never saw anyone again all night.

Doesn’t really make a dif what time it is… Regardless, FC had an 80 man zerg in their BL? Color me skeptical. If they can field an 80 man zerg at that time then they have a much higher pop than Dh does right now.

Regardless, was this done by a pug zerg, or a guild zerg? If you think beating an 80 man pug zerg with a guild zerg is impressive, you’re so incredibly wrong. Beating anything short of a larger guild zerg with your own guild zerg is not impressive.

HOWEVER As DH BL was consistently blue. FC did have WP on their garri and didnt even show up to defend it. Let alone their hills at the beginning of the night.

What we’re trying to say is, FC was within 10-15k (Easy gap to close) of us yesterday. If they hadnt spent their time sitting in DH BL all night they may have been able to sustain a decent PPT all NA prime and through Ocx with their upgraded keeps and towers there instead of having to deal with Ocx going against easy paper stuff.

We’re under no impression that we’re close numbers with you. We ALL understand that this is what happened to us in leagues (Except those servers field 80+ 24/7) and we ALL understand the best match up we could get is definitely IoJ/NSP/HoD. With CD dieing they could even be thrown into the mix after a few guilds leave.

EDIT: For everyone that seems to think that NA Prime time is conclusive of only the Eastern USA. I laugh at you. NA prime time Runs from about 3 PM Server Time- 11 PM Server Time. For those of you that dont know how to Convert that is 6 PM EST-2 AM EST. You forget that people do live in central and west cost.

I’m guessing FC holds no pretenses that they stand a shot at 2nd. Taking Dh’s stuff is smart as it is now a fight for 2nd. Your numbers guarantee that FC will not win. Regardless, my post was directed at people who feel the need to boast about kicking servers who are already down.

Detharos.3157:

Flappybob.1950:

Hey FC,
We heard you like to take paper maps, so we figured we would give you one to take! Too bad you didn’t remove us from the map with your 30 people earlier, now you just have to suffer the humiliation of losing your completely upgraded T3 map to 20 MEND…during NA prime time.
Merry Christmas to all, and to all a good night!

Alright, I understand everyone has their trolls and forum warriors and its not really worth it to reply and I acknowledge that this fellow doesn’t speak for all of IoJ, but regardless:

First of all, Assuming you made your post immediately after your “accomplishments” which would be fitting a boastful individual as yourself, that puts your feat cross-referenced from post time to around 11:40 PM on a Sunday. That’s not “NA primetime”, buddy. People log off at that time to get shut eye for Monday’s work schedule, in case you didn’t know.

Secondly, I don’t know why inhabitants of a previously Silver League server would see there being any merit boasting over besting a 4th in Bronze server, in any timezone. Regardless of what you want to believe, there’s a clearly large numbers disparity between you and us/Darkhaven many levels, especially in timezone coverage.

Thirdly @ the roamer comment from earlier: That’s what happens when you PvDoor us 12:00 AM-4:00 AM, of course you won’t encounter any decent roamers. I was roaming all day in NA time and the exceptional IoJ’s I’ve encountered were elite roamers who transferred from GoM who from what I see haven’t changed much with the passing of time, which is more a testament to just how awesome Gates of Madness was back in the day than to your server.

IoJ seems to think our servers are close in coverage/numbers. This is patently false. You’re doing to us what all of silver did to you, it’s not close, and it’s not worth boasting about. FC and Dh are close in numbers, IoJ is waaayyyy above both. FC defends dutifully, and the fact that they couldn’t stop you at 11 should tell you why you took their stuff.

Skeletor.9360:

Arius.7031:

Skeletor.9360:

There are entire guilds that strive for heavies….Why?

1.) All heavies get extra hitpoints.
2.) They have more resistance to attacks.
3.) They have no counter to armor…no armor traps…but there are stealth traps….
4.) These classes get huge AOE damage.
5.) They get huge crowd control…
6.) They get huge mobility.
7.) Automatic CC breaking.
8.) Fear….pulls…block…stability…stuns…can use bows…have atomic weapons….

What is the downside of a Warrior or Guardian?

Need some armor removal…movement limits…etc…way imbalanced.

Simply compare that OP thief with a heavy…trade blows….the heavy wins everytime because they do equal damage yest have double the hitpoints AND armor.

Further in WVW you can just spam AOE and accidentally kill people…completely no skill required.

1. Guardians have the lowest health pool in the game (along with ele).
2. No, really?
3. And stealth traps are super used in wvw atm.
4. Guardian gets moderate aoe damage. Necromancer, Elementalist, and Engi get as much or more AoE damage (and it’s ranged).
5. Ele has a lot as well.
6. Guard has huge mobility? What?
7. ?
8. Almost none of this applies to guard.

You seem to misunderstand the point of variety. Certain classes will naturally be better suited to certain tasks. Heavies will OBVIOUSLY be better for things like zerg combat, that is the point. The problem is that warriors maintain huge mobility making them a very successful roaming class, IMO. That’s the only real imbalance left as far as WvW is concerned IMO.

You have just essentially said Guards and Warriors are the only effective WvW classes because of the way WvW is. Thanks for the ringing endorsement! I don’t think you know what variety is …as you are saying WvW favors specific classes. I also am reading this into your response….“..and oh that other class I don’t play…nerf it!”

Firstly, WvW isn’t only zerg combat, which is exactly what I said they’re best at. Guardians are not well suited to roaming, for example, due to low mobility/general lack of ability in a duel setting. Guards are only okay at havoc because of general support capabilities/tanking, and even there are generally not as good as other classes. Thieves/Mesmers dominate roaming, and havoc in specific is not dominated by wars/guards.

Secondly, zergs also generally require other classes in addition to war/guard. War/guard are the main stay, but every good zerg will also run Mesmer (ports/veils), Ele (water fields/aoe CC and DPS), and Necromancer (AoE DPS/Boon stripping).

The issue isn’t that certain classes are too good in WvW necessarily (though I will agree that Wars are a bit too good all around), but instead that certain classes just aren’t very useful in general in WvW. Ranger is the go to example here. But, most classes have their place in the current meta.

Skeletor.9360:

There are entire guilds that strive for heavies….Why?

1.) All heavies get extra hitpoints.
2.) They have more resistance to attacks.
3.) They have no counter to armor…no armor traps…but there are stealth traps….
4.) These classes get huge AOE damage.
5.) They get huge crowd control…
6.) They get huge mobility.
7.) Automatic CC breaking.
8.) Fear….pulls…block…stability…stuns…can use bows…have atomic weapons….

What is the downside of a Warrior or Guardian?

Need some armor removal…movement limits…etc…way imbalanced.

Simply compare that OP thief with a heavy…trade blows….the heavy wins everytime because they do equal damage yest have double the hitpoints AND armor.

Further in WVW you can just spam AOE and accidentally kill people…completely no skill required.

1. Guardians have the lowest health pool in the game (along with ele).
2. No, really?
3. And stealth traps are super used in wvw atm.
4. Guardian gets moderate aoe damage. Necromancer, Elementalist, and Engi get as much or more AoE damage (and it’s ranged).
5. Ele has a lot as well.
6. Guard has huge mobility? What?
7. ?
8. Almost none of this applies to guard.

You seem to misunderstand the point of variety. Certain classes will naturally be better suited to certain tasks. Heavies will OBVIOUSLY be better for things like zerg combat, that is the point. The problem is that warriors maintain huge mobility making them a very successful roaming class, IMO. That’s the only real imbalance left as far as WvW is concerned IMO.

Banzie.5248:

Arius.7031:

Banzie.5248:

sephiroth.4217:

insanemaniac.2456:

sephiroth.4217:

well props to FC in IOJ BL for the good fights, cause of you guys it took me 2+ hours to get briar doors reinforced and no matter how many times you guys wiped you just kept bringing more and more all for the sake of vale regardless if you dont own a third of your own BL.

we had fcbl queued for a couple hours after reset… its not like whoever you were fighting had the option to just leave for fcbl.

…and you should know how annoying it can be to take a defended hills.

(and for the record i was in eb tonight)

It was about 5 hours after reset actually happened and if you are referring to our hills being defended today on reset nah wasn’t annoying lol, I was the comm who built trebs to hit outer walls and inner walls of hills

He could be talking about the hills WP Mend put on their home BL Hills.

Also FC and DH. Curios question here. How well do you think we’d do against HoD based off what you’ve seen so far?

You’d beat them by numbers probably. Honestly, their zergs will probably wreck yours in open field though (they wreck ours even more). No offense intended, theirs are just better. That hammer nerf hurt them though. (xD)

I had heard they ran massive warrior hammer trains :p And assumed they’d be super bummed about the nerfs xD

What IoJ guild groups have you faced so far though? :o

I’ve never really noticed your guild zergs, just fought you a couple times in EB and didn’t take note of the guild name. I’m sure you guys have great guilds, but I’m talking about general zergs. You have great guilds, but so does HoD. I’m just making a general comment.

Banzie.5248:

sephiroth.4217:

insanemaniac.2456:

sephiroth.4217:

well props to FC in IOJ BL for the good fights, cause of you guys it took me 2+ hours to get briar doors reinforced and no matter how many times you guys wiped you just kept bringing more and more all for the sake of vale regardless if you dont own a third of your own BL.

we had fcbl queued for a couple hours after reset… its not like whoever you were fighting had the option to just leave for fcbl.

…and you should know how annoying it can be to take a defended hills.

(and for the record i was in eb tonight)

It was about 5 hours after reset actually happened and if you are referring to our hills being defended today on reset nah wasn’t annoying lol, I was the comm who built trebs to hit outer walls and inner walls of hills

He could be talking about the hills WP Mend put on their home BL Hills.

Also FC and DH. Curios question here. How well do you think we’d do against HoD based off what you’ve seen so far?

You’d beat them by numbers probably. Honestly, their zergs will probably wreck yours in open field though (they wreck ours even more). No offense intended, theirs are just better. That hammer nerf hurt them though. (xD)

Crimson Magdelana.9024:

Don’t take it personally DH, those that abandoned you farmed IoJ to the point that revenge has a taste so sweet words can’t describe it. You ladies and gents are always a fun match regardless of PPT or score. [FUN] guild…..I can’t but admire your tenacity (no offense at all). Too many fun fights to count.

Fergs bros, I remember back when IoJ and FC had a unofficial alliance to stop DR from farming the easy server (Fergs in the match) for easy points….and FC Stepped up and put those jerks in third. DR fell apart shortly after, and you guys went from an ez win server to a powerhouse full of dedication. Totally impressed keep up the good fight FC peoples.

Thanks to seasons and kitten guilds it’s been a long couple of months with people leaving after seasons started. IoJ did worse in 1st, 2nd, or 3rd place placings than any other server in the game. Trust me when I say that a matchup with semi-equal wvw population is more welcomed than anything I could say here.

At this point noone cares who wins. We’re just trying to have some fun without frowning everytime we see red names. Keep up the good fight DH & FC. Who cares who wins, lets just have some fun. /respect

V/R

[HARD] Crimmy

Nobody hates former Dh guilds more than Dh.

Binkydink.2697:

ok Anet please pay attention to what HOD is doing. They faced FC for the past two weeks and they completely steamrolled them all week long. Now all of a sudden their players aren’t steamrolling FC all week. I believe they are purposely tanking the scores so they wont have to play against more competitive servers. I wouldn’t be complaining if the scores were close before but they really need to be in the same division as Blackgate or Jade Quarry. The only reason the scores are this close this week is because they are TANKING. This crap sucks for FC and its just stupid to continue to keep them in our division.

Most servers are getting hit hard by the end of leagues/content updates… ESPECIALLY lower tier servers. Darkhaven was queuing 1 map almost 24/7, even at night. Now? We literally have 1 zerg at 15 people at night time. That’s it, + a few random roamers. Lol, I even (with one friend) took FC’s garrison, bay, sw tower and nw tower in one night. 2 people. That’s how dead FC’s night crew was and Dh isn’t fairing much better. Now that leagues are over, bronze servers are losing a massive amount of their population (cept for some of the lower ranked ones). HoD is no exception I’d wager.

Also note that there was never a good three way fight with HoD. That is, it was always FC and some lame server that couldn’t keep up. Darkhaven is at least as strong as FC, and so that provided some balance to the matchup (that is, if they would start to beat on FC, we’d use that opportunity to beat on them, and FC would do the same, keeping them from steam rolling everyone).

I’m Dh, I’ll say… FC and AR. FC and Dh are just fairly close to each other it seems (may be wrong, we’ll see). AR is a wild card, now that leagues are over and every server is dramatically different from when leagues were going, AR may be strong enough to take on Dh/FC. Time will tell.

Oh snap this is crazy lol. Is AR ready to play with FC/Dh? Time will tell!

SF, hope you guys recover from this. I’m sure you guys are getting hit really hard by leagues ending/general lack of moral.

Kaineng, still have mooncow I see… lovely.

Clint <3

alenaoreo.5206:

jorek! found you

But I thought people couldn’t see me ) :. H4X.

Dsybok.1405:

Its bad this week Angel, I haven’t seen more than 10-15 people on any map any night this week.

People are so burned out after playing the 7 weeks and didn’t want a third HOD matchup in a row, they are off doing other things this week. Its virtually impossible to get more than 5 people together in one place without a tag and with a tag you are lucky to get 10, at least in the evening hours.

I’m sure HoD is feeling it too lol. I know Dh is showing up much less than normal but I bet this is happening to all servers. IDK, HoD may have more dedicated WvWers though.