Guild Wars 2

Bllade.1029:

Had this match been before SF/HoD’s DH would probably be sitting in third place comfortably.

Wouldn’t be so sure, tbh. Their pre HoD coverage still sucked, our coverage is probably the best in the league (along with HoD of course). I think, if SF has taken a huge population hit as you suggest, it would be closer, though I wouldn’t write Dh out.

You still get 200 AP from 30-50 right? That is nothing to scoff at.

beyonder.9735:

DH you guys are really terrible.. how do u let us farm u in your bay for about an hour on sunday??.. we broke down all the gates and walls to your T3 and trolled you like no other.. that poor norn guardian commander lmao good times.

We’ll be taking our terribleness all the way to 2nd. Being terrible never felt so great!

Also, if it was a [star] zerg, you don’t brag about wiping pug zergs with a coordinated guild zerg…

Dextra.8162:

Someone commented earlier about how DH runs away from fights with SF or whatever

We only run from VLK zergs. That’s called being sane.

But yeah I have to agree. The [star] zergs even are constantly running when the odds start to even out. They like to wipe disorganized zergs or lower numbered zergs, but if any semi-decent force shows up, they usually get out of there. That said I’m sure Dh does a lot of running itself, I just never see it.

King Amadaeus.8619:

I think the funniest thing on this thread is all the people that think SF really, truly, cares about any of this.

Seriously, think what you want, but the majority of people I speak to are laughing about it (it being this thread). Some people (on several servers) want to act like we were some kinda “favorite”, well we never really were. Check our ranks before leagues. Basically we went into it with a “lets just play hard and see what happens”.

Like Manoa said, at the beginning of the year we were one of the 3 worst servers in the game, while we aren’t going to “silver” we have still came a long way with much farther to go no doubt.

So to all the DH that think you have gotten markedly better, well maybe so, but you still have that fairweather pop that we remember from when we faced you months ago (DH/SF/IoJ matches).

To HoD, a few months back we made you quit WvW for a week, you have came back with good coverage on a “High” population server (at times). Good job, MU you are still PPT gazing bads with 2-4 thieves that like to duel.

AR….Wait AR? AR commented in this thread? Well idc about AR, not even AR cares about AR.

Keep up the good fights DH/ET, be sure to gaze at that scoreboard for lil ol me.

You were ranked 4th before leagues and were considered the favorite over Dh to take 3rd.

How do you know we have a “fair weather” pop? Got a spy on our server? Hear it from one random person on our server? How do you know?

Anyways, you guys were the favorite for third before leagues. This sentiment is summed up well by solstice, which was created prior to the league. Remember, you placed 2nd against FC, while we placed 3rd, right before leagues. You were, from the get-go, considered the 3rd strongest. The servers that placed higher than expectations are Dh, GoM, and AR primarily. FC performed below expectations. SF and HoD placed exactly as predicted.

If you don’t care fine, but don’t rewrite history by implying that you performed better than expected. You guys were expected to place 3rd, that’s what you’re going to do and we will see to that.

clint.5681:

Assassin X.8573:

clint.5681:

Yo DH just be happy your winning second. I feel like leagues had a negative impact on WvW on the forums and in game. Whether or not we actually showed up to play this week or not you are beating us. Have fun and kitten

Anything having any impact on forums is LoL. Forums have absolutely NOTHING to do with the in game play.

Whether or not it has had any effect at all on wvw is yet to be seen as you can only see how it effects WvW after the end of the season, when the season ends…

It already has had impact on servers in every league, open your eyes. And I never said forums had an impact on game play, please read or don’t respond.

@arius retread what I said back then, I said the only way we would lose is if we don’t show up, and I was right.

Pretty sure you guys just got beat and then stopped showing up, not the other way around. Whatever lol, this is the best we’re gonna get from SF I suppose.

Madora.9340:

melodey.4652:

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Assassin X.8573:

Madora.9340:

Sounds like the same old argument, different day. Surprised that people haven’t considered the fact we had two hard weeks against HoD and then have to fight DH on Black Friday. Kind of hard to get out of a corner when that’s where you end up starting, but hey, what do I know? Not a whole heck of a lot.

Really? Black Friday excuse? LoL. OK.

popaz.1524:

DH knew very well that this would be a though week being the underdogs.

I had a lot of respect for SF coming into this match up but not so much anymore after seeing all the tears in this forum.

Being the person I am, I’m at least trying to find some sort of explanation of why we aren’t doing so well right now, so call it what you want; excuses, tears, whatever. Like I said in an earlier post, I’m not playing right now. Yet no matter what the reason, it doesn’t stop you guys from picking on us or saying that we’re making things up…so what’s the point of you guys trying to call us out? There isn’t one.

See it from our perspective. We’ve been preparing for this, for weeks. In guild chat, not a day went by where anbu wasn’t talking about the fight for 2nd and how important it was. Our server held meeting and dedicated significant amounts of time to preparing for you, we wanted to beat you and earn this victory. How is this met? By excuses. It’s black friday. It’s HoD. Dh was ALWAYS bigger and stronger than SF anyways. One SF person that I count, in this entire thread, I think sincerely congratulated us/treated us like we did okay.

I mean, seriously, HoD may favor us, but do you really think it’s just coincidence that tons of them are coming in here and calling SF people out as well?

It feels pretty sucky to put so much effort into a fight, only to have your opponent basically say “you didn’t do good, I’m just not ready for this at the moment cus of black friday”. That’s why you’ll see Dh players calling people out on here.

clint.5681:

Yo DH just be happy your winning second. I feel like leagues had a negative impact on WvW on the forums and in game. Whether or not we actually showed up to play this week or not you are beating us. Have fun and kitten

I disagree about leagues. I’m reminded of you loling at me when you said weeks ago that you’re “pretty sure we [sf] can still beat Dh easily” (paraphrasing but is really close).

Righteous.4307:

As far as I am aware (DH and SF feel free to correct me) there have been no significant influx of players/guilds to DH between week 1 and week 7. If Sorrows Furnace (as a server) wanted second place all that they would have to do is repeat their victory in week 1. So either DH is just plain outplaing SF or SF players (as a whole) don’t want #2 as much as DH players (as a whole). In either case DH was either able to motivate their playerbase better than SF or DH is able to outplay SF.

For us there has been no significant influx from outside. The difference is in coordination/overall strategy, that is, we now have some of both, we did not in our previous matchup. That, and we were quite motivated. We were shouting LA days before “bring your A game this reset, this is for 2nd”. We were all ready, the server held meetings to discuss strategies, and I think the results are showing.

That said, we have one area we need improvement on, combat capabilities. We’re much better since we last faced HoD, but we’re not even near that level yet. STAR zergs still run over our zergs pretty easily.

ptitminou.6489:

Arius.7031:

ptitminou.6489:

skullmount.1758:

Assassin X.8573:

wow i went to sleep about 10 hrs ago and we had a 20k lead, its morning and we have a 37k lead. holy kitten lol.

Well we did have a +590 ppt for a while there this morning. Not sure if the other servers don’t have anyone at that time, or if they’ve given up…

It’s been like that since release for SF. During week one, ET actually showed up and pretty much countered DH well enough for us to rack up more points in our primetime than in DH primetime. This week is just back to normal. I was actually surprised we won week one.

I was doubting we’d beat FC this season since they were a better server, until a Blackgate guy told us how they were gonna counter SoR so we did the same against them, then shooting for second seemed plausible. They crumbled, it seems, in the same fashion. The 80man deathball tactic is no more.

As for this week, ET must have lost a lot of players, we have faced them for the last two weeks and even the guild carrying them seems to have lost its touch. It’s kinda sad, but I maintain only server merges can save bronze tier servers. It’s just a matter of time before people who exclusively WvW in Bronze start quitting or transfering. It is only logical that SoR, TC and JQ will go on a recruitment spree prior to next season to try and counter the BG stacking, so I am expecting there will be excellent offers for many guilds.

As for me, filling in the coverage gap in a Euro server is tempting. Since it wont happen here, perhaps other servers need players. Just gonna wait for free xfers while trying out other games atm I think.

Lol you guys beat FC by strategy? I’m sure that contributed, but you guys HEAVILY outnumber FC. It’s not even close, tbh. Further, SF got 2nd against FC while Dh had gotten 3rd, just before the leagues started. You guys were considered slightly stronger than us, not the way other around.

That’s as stupid as saying that JQ and SoR were considered favorites when the season started because they beat BG, yet BG beat them 20 times before that, just like DH always wrecked us like this week. Feel free to point and laugh at those who bandwagonned to SoR though, I bet they feel SoRry for themselves now.

What? I was pointing out the obvious… People like to pretend that SF performed way above expectations rank-wise, they didn’t. At best, you guys are performing almost exactly as was expected. HoD > FC > SF > Dh was the expected order, with Kain thrown in as a “who knows”.

That said, again, I’m not trying to hate on SF. As opponents, you guys are the closest match for us in this league and I respect that. You’re better than us in a fight, and we need to learn from that.

ptitminou.6489:

skullmount.1758:

Assassin X.8573:

wow i went to sleep about 10 hrs ago and we had a 20k lead, its morning and we have a 37k lead. holy kitten lol.

Well we did have a +590 ppt for a while there this morning. Not sure if the other servers don’t have anyone at that time, or if they’ve given up…

It’s been like that since release for SF. During week one, ET actually showed up and pretty much countered DH well enough for us to rack up more points in our primetime than in DH primetime. This week is just back to normal. I was actually surprised we won week one.

I was doubting we’d beat FC this season since they were a better server, until a Blackgate guy told us how they were gonna counter SoR so we did the same against them, then shooting for second seemed plausible. They crumbled, it seems, in the same fashion. The 80man deathball tactic is no more.

As for this week, ET must have lost a lot of players, we have faced them for the last two weeks and even the guild carrying them seems to have lost its touch. It’s kinda sad, but I maintain only server merges can save bronze tier servers. It’s just a matter of time before people who exclusively WvW in Bronze start quitting or transfering. It is only logical that SoR, TC and JQ will go on a recruitment spree prior to next season to try and counter the BG stacking, so I am expecting there will be excellent offers for many guilds.

As for me, filling in the coverage gap in a Euro server is tempting. Since it wont happen here, perhaps other servers need players. Just gonna wait for free xfers while trying out other games atm I think.

Lol you guys beat FC by strategy? I’m sure that contributed, but you guys HEAVILY outnumber FC. It’s not even close, tbh. Further, SF got 2nd against FC while Dh had gotten 3rd, just before the leagues started. You guys were considered slightly stronger than us, not the way other around.

Tongku.5326:

This match so far sucks.

I love playing WvW for the big epic battles, I don’t care about lag, I don’t care about the “who did what to whom”. What I want the most is big large scale epic battles. So far there has been only 1 here, and I have spent majority of my time since reset in WvW.

Even the 1 big battle at the garison has been cheesed to the maximum by warbanner train, but that one is on A-net since we would do the same had our roles been reversed. I really do hope a-net does something about that, just another one of many broken game mechanics.

All the other times the fights are just some sort of stupid chases, often of warriors traited for max runing away skills and perma stealth thieves. Guilds like BS and few others cant put up any decent fight all they do is just skirmish and run which sucks.

Our last 2 weeks we got to fight MU and VLK when going up against HoD. Neither DH nor ET have anything that can come even remotely close that in quality on both their servers combined.

So maybe some other people from SF will post about good fights etc. just to make you all feel better, but I won’t, I’ll tell you straight out, for a game opponent, you suck and you disappoint.

Edit: P.S. Just before you start throwing GvGs in here, a GvG is nothing like rest of WvW. It is neither largescale, strategic, nor tactical enough. It just don’t cut it.

Firstly, this has been the zergiest matchup I’ve been in for a long time… I guess you haven’t been in Dh bl/SF bl much, but there have been MANY huge fights (don’t even get me started on EB).

I’ll skip responding to the rest of your whining, sorry you’re losing and that you feel the need to call us bad. I for one am enjoying this matchup because SF is the only opponent that can keep the new Darkhaven on its toes (cept for HoD, they’d keep us with our face on the ground).

GF to that SF war behind the south east camp in ET BL. Lol, we both just had to walk away. Good stuff.

ptitminou.6489:

If you remember right, Kaineng was a big ? in bronze and HoD, DH, FC, SF (or was it FC in front of DH, I forget?) was the proper order. On SF we’ve already surpassed expectations, so there is nothing to be sad about.

Well, SF and FC had both beat us pre-season so… I think Solstice had it right in his summation on first post of bronze league. The difference between our servers was yours had a larger WvW pop pre-season, while our massive PvE population made our potential influx greater.

Plains of Ashes.5941:

Bllade.1029:

We’ll let you guys know whats in the winning season chest. Chances are, knowing arena net it’ll be a couple of greens, a rare, 1 gold and the oh so awesome dolyak limited use finisher.

Huge.

I have ZERO expectation that the first place chest will be any better than a maw chest.

I just hope the doly finisher is as funny as hell. dropping a dolyak from outer space on some poor sap should be the funniest thing ever seen in GW

I bet it’s going to be a trophy like you see in real world sports, cept of a dolyak, colored based on your performance (e.g. since I’m from Darkhaven we’ll get silver, teehehehe).

Edit: Note, I’m talking about the finisher :p.

Was a great reset night for sure, back and forth, good stuff. Glad Dh didn’t crumble lol.

Here it goes boys and girls, let’s get it on.

Server: Darkhaven
League: Bronze
Enjoyed Season 1: IMMENSELY, BEST TIME IN GW2 EVER.
Should we have a season 2: Yes, but more polished.

The seasons, without a doubt, drew a massive amount of people to WvW. I think after seasons are over, almost all servers will find their WvW core population has increased substantially. People got a taste of WvW and are now addicted to it, it even happened to Wooden Potatoes lol.

That said, it needs more polish. I think (for NA) 4 leagues and a 5 week season would be better, or something like that. I think there needs to be more leagues to keep the competition a little tighter. The difference, for example, between Sorrow’s Furance and say Devona’s Rest is beyond massive. They’re not even close. With 4 leagues of six servers bronze/silver/gold/diamond it would be much more competitive. You could also do 9 servers in, say, silver league, and only 3 in diamond, though that would make diamond more competitive while silver would probably be less competitive.

Stx.4857:

jalmari.3906:

Warriors and guardians are just ridiculously strong even 1v1. Definetly even more so with OP stacks.

Mesmer has always been also strong. Clones/shatter AI trashing with imbacc is just lawd???

Condinecro is just op because conditions in 1v1. Staff/scepter is so OP it should be removed until fixed. (yeah i mostly play necro atm)

And yeah those rangers.. if you have found some other buttons on your keyboard than barrage button you’re so strong it’s not even funny.

Thieves not generally that great not sure if with OP stacks. s/d thieves are pretty good though, but really needs experienced guy playing it.

Good eles are also strong 1v1, near impossible to take them down while they still do enough dmg.

If something is really OP it’s burning condition followed By needlessly added torment with ridiculous stun/daze/immo/fear stacking. (omg pls kitten nerf thief steal fear to 50% duration)

All this is irrelevant though because WvW isn’t even close to any kind of balance atm.

^This is correct.

What Guardian build is ridiculously strong? As in, give me a guardian build that an average dueling Guardian could use to beat, say, an average dueling Mesmer. I beat almost every Guardian I’ve ever fought, and I get absolutely destroyed by almost any Mesmer.

Dovgan.8605:

@totalpwnage.6534 That fight could have potentially gone on all night, but unfortunately the turkey required carving. We’ll have to do it again sometime. On a side note, I really should play my mesmer more, it’s a fun class.

You fought happy to a draw? :O I WANT VIDEO

Opc.4718:

The trolling in Obsidian Sanctum was pretty random, but I’m fairly sure the whole thing escalated from 1 or 2 actual trolls, and when people retaliated everyone else got pulled in. I remember a few AR being adamant about wiping DH because ‘they started it first’, and the late comers all happily jumped into the brawl to help out team-mates.

Well I can walk you back to the first stone that was thrown lol. I assure you, we did not start it. The trolling actually began with me about 30 minutes prior to the match, where a thief from [feak] or something like that kept randomly attacking for no reason.

Regardless, you may be right. That said, I do know at least 4 people from AR were trolling during the GvG, and about 10 were trolling prior to the GvG.

Senjun.8149:

Wars are the best roamers.

Need i remind u guys a GS/hammer warrior can keep up with me while im using a firey gs? And manage to stop me in my tracks with this CC and gs cripple. The only way to outrun this overpowered power house is if i get a good headstart first.

A thief can outdo a war unless (possibly) the war carries a sword/warhorn in his 2nd slot. Further, roaming isn’t all about mobility, that’s a contributing factor but not the end-all-be-all. War cannot escape many situations that a Mesmer/thief could via stealth, for example. Thief gets the best of both worlds have huge mobility and the ability to stealth more than any other class. Add to that, in a 1vx situation a war will usually lose, the classes that can 1vx best are classes that can stealth (Mesmer and Thief) because having two or more 80s constantly dpsing you is hard to take no matter how good of a player you are. I cannot tell you how many 1vx’s (up to 5 people) I’ve won on my mesmer, against 80s. Granted I can, at best, beat a max of 2 good players (if I’m lucky), but the point remains.

Soilder.3607:

Arius.7031:

Soilder.3607:

Arius.7031:

This is totally skewed. Of course heavies are more suited to zerg combat and that’s the way it should be, thus you see more of them in WvW. But tell me, how many guardians can beat a Mesmer 1v1? 1 out of every 10, maybe, if we’re generous? How many Guardians do you see doing really successful roaming like thieves/memsers? Warrior is, at best, decent in roaming/duels, not OP like Mesmer for example. Guardian is very, very bad at 1v1 and pretty bad at small scale roaming. It balances itself out.

For the record, my sig was too long so I had to cut it, but I have an 80 Necro and an 80 Mesmer as well, so I’m not just in it for the guardians.

Are you joking? Warrior is one of the best roaming and dueling classes in the game right now. Why do you think they’re getting nerfed come Dec 10th?

9/10 wars lose in duels against Mesmers, for example. Mesmer is the best dueling class in the game. Notice I never said wars are not good at duels/roaming, but they’re not OP. Thieves/Mesmers are still the top roaming classes, and Mesmers/Necros are still better in 1v1s in general. Wars are viable in duels, and viable in roaming (Guard only if very good and specced properly for the role) but they’re not OP in that aspect.

You said they were just decent, and they are way more than just decent. They’re very op in duels. Have you even played a good stun war? They are impossible to kill no matter how much stun break or stability you can bring. Same goes for mesmers, except the difference is mesmer takes twice as much skill to master than warrior.

Lol, what? Impossible to kill a good stun war? Are you joking?

There’s more to PvP than just being unkillable, any class can do that. We’re talking about classes that overpower one another. A stun war that can’t be killed, cannot overpower a Mesmer that is good, at all. The Mesmer can easily kite, flee from, or tank him even (f4 shatter, skill 2 sword, etc…). Remember, ether feast is a very strong heal for 20 second CD, and we have many built in stun breakers (e.g. sword 3), blocks (scepter 2, sword 4), insane amounts of dodges and either high condi damage or for power high sustained damage from sword.

Remember, stun wars hit slowly and so blocks/aegis/dodges/blinds effect them negatively far more than your average class.

Soilder.3607:

Arius.7031:

This is totally skewed. Of course heavies are more suited to zerg combat and that’s the way it should be, thus you see more of them in WvW. But tell me, how many guardians can beat a Mesmer 1v1? 1 out of every 10, maybe, if we’re generous? How many Guardians do you see doing really successful roaming like thieves/memsers? Warrior is, at best, decent in roaming/duels, not OP like Mesmer for example. Guardian is very, very bad at 1v1 and pretty bad at small scale roaming. It balances itself out.

For the record, my sig was too long so I had to cut it, but I have an 80 Necro and an 80 Mesmer as well, so I’m not just in it for the guardians.

Are you joking? Warrior is one of the best roaming and dueling classes in the game right now. Why do you think they’re getting nerfed come Dec 10th?

9/10 wars lose in duels against Mesmers, for example. Mesmer is the best dueling class in the game. Notice I never said wars are not good at duels/roaming, but they’re not OP. Thieves/Mesmers are still the top roaming classes, and Mesmers/Necros are still better in 1v1s in general. Wars are viable in duels, and viable in roaming (Guard only if very good and specced properly for the role) but they’re not OP in that aspect.

Grampa from Darkhaven. He’s (mostly) responsible for our comeback against FC/GoM in the closest matchup of the season, and he is w/o a doubt our top commander. He gets stuff done.

This is totally skewed. Of course heavies are more suited to zerg combat and that’s the way it should be, thus you see more of them in WvW. But tell me, how many guardians can beat a Mesmer 1v1? 1 out of every 10, maybe, if we’re generous? How many Guardians do you see doing really successful roaming like thieves/memsers? Warrior is, at best, decent in roaming/duels, not OP like Mesmer for example. Guardian is very, very bad at 1v1 and pretty bad at small scale roaming. It balances itself out.

For the record, my sig was too long so I had to cut it, but I have an 80 Necro and an 80 Mesmer as well, so I’m not just in it for the guardians.

Dovgan.8605:

Arius.7031:

Mariticide.1970:

Nightwrath.1679:

Sigh I wish I can keep up my last post on how not all Dh are the same…. but after tonight it is going to be hard to change how some of us think of you guys…..

Agreed, the amount of perplexity build emote spamming idiots from DH I have come across this match far exceeds any other in my whole time in GW2. It just shows this server has a significant amount of bad apples. It’s sad really.

At least DR is classy. I’ve always liked fighting that server because they are a good bunch.

Eh, I really don’t think AR is in a good spot to be talking about other servers having a significant amount of bad apples. Dh was able to behave itself perfectly during the FUN-ASAP GvG (good fights by the way, to both) until we got repeatedly knocked of the wooden platform by various AR trolls. Even then, only 2 of our people responded, the rest just stayed and REPEATEDLY had to fend off AR attacks/troll attempts for the remainder of the evening.

What is even worse is before that, while Dh was trying to get to the GvG to watch it (and even when [fun] arrived for the GvG), we were getting killed in the arena randomly and were getting spawn camped by like 8 people.

I have never seen such poor behavior from so many people in a bronze server… ever.

It’s war people .. behave yourselves?

Honestly all around the amount of emote spamming, poor behavior is fairly on par with every other match up I have been in. You may not do it, and good for you, but players from every server do. Don’t kid yourself and think your server is special and honorable, no server is. Emote spammer = trash player, and every server out there has them. Trolls tend to be bored and feel that this is a good way to amuse themselves, I don’t condone it, but you can’t control the entirety of a server population. Best thing you can do is get past it and move on.

To the DH that said “It’s AR, wipe them and move on”, you seem to think that it’s easy to beat an AR player. Come at me bro.

I agree completely, note that I’m not trying to single out AR any more than necessary. I’m just saying that Dh isn’t the only server that has exhibited exceedingly poor behavior in this matchup.

Mariticide.1970:

Nightwrath.1679:

Sigh I wish I can keep up my last post on how not all Dh are the same…. but after tonight it is going to be hard to change how some of us think of you guys…..

Agreed, the amount of perplexity build emote spamming idiots from DH I have come across this match far exceeds any other in my whole time in GW2. It just shows this server has a significant amount of bad apples. It’s sad really.

At least DR is classy. I’ve always liked fighting that server because they are a good bunch.

Eh, I really don’t think AR is in a good spot to be talking about other servers having a significant amount of bad apples. Dh was able to behave itself perfectly during the FUN-ASAP GvG (good fights by the way, to both) until we got repeatedly knocked of the wooden platform by various AR trolls. Even then, only 2 of our people responded, the rest just stayed and REPEATEDLY had to fend off AR attacks/troll attempts for the remainder of the evening.

What is even worse is before that, while Dh was trying to get to the GvG to watch it (and even when [fun] arrived for the GvG), we were getting killed in the arena randomly and were getting spawn camped by like 8 people.

I have never seen such poor behavior from so many people in a bronze server… ever.

Assassin X.8573:

AR get your observers in line.

AR [TWIN] guardian. why you being a kittennozzle?

Yeah lol, Dh kept to its side until people repeatedly came and knocked our players off of the wooden platform. It has been going on for 45 minutes now while we’ve just been trying to watch the GvG…

Edit: To be clear, we’re talking many people here. I’ve seen around 10 separate people do this, and when we try to fight them off other AR come to their aid and it ends in a brawl.

I just wanna say, really poor behavior by tons of AR folks in obsidian sanctum. Camping a spawn when people are going to get ready to watch a GvG, that is not cool.

Dude, next week is a battle between SF and Dh for 2nd place… look beyond your own selfish desires before trying to ruin everything for the rest of us TY. This has been a highly anticipated matchup that Dh is looking forward too, and from what I can tell of the forums, many other folks in bronze are eager to see who wins.

Dovgan.8605:

Most even fight I have had against you guys all week. Great fight guys…

Sorry lol, not much we can do to stop you from 1vZerg.

Topic sums it up, how are you supposed to beat her? Do you HAVE to let her first mate live?

Cantur Soulfyre.5409:

Arius.7031:

Are you guys like actually worse off for it? I can’t speak for all of Darkhaven but I was looking forward to a full-on fight, I don’t want to fight you guys if your server is going through a rough time… not fair.

I believe CoSA has split before but that was before my time. And every server goes through rough patches….

Couldn’t you have waited 1 week? It’s common courtesy to fall apart after you’ve been defeated by us!!!

Are you guys like actually worse off for it? I can’t speak for all of Darkhaven but I was looking forward to a full-on fight, I don’t want to fight you guys if your server is going through a rough time… not fair.

So what happened to COSA? Did they actually fall apart? I’m confuzzled x.x

Henge of Denravi, for their dominating skill in a predominately skill-less tier (bronze) and undeniably awesome yo mama jokes.

Dh has been in a great spot as far as the season is concerned. I can’t speak for everyone on the server, of course, but I’ve enjoyed it a lot. It’s very story-like, we got beat by number 1 BUT we have a chance to beat SF for 2nd in the final battle of the league. For me, this is really intense and I’m super excited. I’ve really loved seasons thus far and hope we can see the return of a 4 league season (as one guy mentioned, diamond, gold, silver, bronze). I think the biggest issue is that servers seem to go in tiers for bronze:

DH/SF/HoD = tier 1
FC/GOM = tier 2
KNG/AR/DR/ET = tier 3

If someone in tier 1 gets matched with someone in tier 2, it gets bad. If someone in tier 1 gets matched with tier 3 servers, it gets REALLY bad (see HoD and Dh this week). Thus, since the tier 3 servers have had every week include at least 1 server from a higher tier, it hasn’t been too fun for them I’d wager. The reverse is also true, if you’re in a higher tier server it’s not really fun to play against all the weaker servers all the time.

Righteous.4307:

Dovgan.8605:

If current trends continue this looks like it will be Season One Bronze League at wrap up. Congratulations to all the winners, I think.

1st Henge of Denravi
2nd Sorrow’s Furnace
3nd Darkhaven
4th Gate of Madness
5th Ferguson’s Crossing
6th Anvil Rock
7th Kaineng
8th Devona’s Rest
9th Eredon Terrace

Second place will be decided next week (11/29 – 12/6) with Darkhaven facing off against Sorrows Furnace while Eredon Terrace gets a front row seat. It will be a lot of fun to watch it unfold. Last time these two servers faced off (Season 1, Week 1) SF won by only 40k points ( http://mos.millenium.org/na/wvw_seasons/index/115 ). Who has learned more this season? How does each server prepare to best the other? I, for one, wish [MU] was going to get in on that action next week.

I am so excited. Darkhaven has been preparing and organizing. Darkhaven is currently the underdog as everyone realizes, but don’t count us out yet! I also don’t think we’ve faced ET since the beginning of the season, so it will be good to see them again.

We’re a magical class, that’s our theme. So why can’t we be magical archers? We need a long range weapon that is reliable. It needs to fire quick projectiles, unlike the scepter/staff 2. IMO. I’m down with the rest of the folks that say blue fire theme to our longbow skills, that fits our overall theme on all of our weapons AND differentiates us substantially from wars/rangers in longbow looks.

Love FC though I may, (I’m a fanboy) you guys do zerg a lot lol. And I’m from Darkhaven!

Narcin Roc.3018:

Arius.7031:

pointing out that we did win BUT ONLY BECAUSE OF NUMBERS, does nothing to interact with my point.

Coverage is about numbers AND time of play, DH is just superior with both, but like I said, most AR-DH zerg v zergs ended in an AR victory. The simple fact is that coverage = time of play AND numbers, not just time like you seem to think.

Yeah I thought the guy was originally referring to that one aspects of coverage, kitten many people do with Darkhaven. Everyone basically calls us a night capping server, so you can understand why I thought his OP was basically trying to say we’d lose in the day but win in the night or something like that.

Regardless, I haven’t had the same experience as you in regards to zergs. Almost every zerg fight I’ve been in has ended in Dh’s favor honestly.

Chuck Zitto.2367:

I think this guy really fails to understand the concept of coverage. Were you in the other maps lol. DR has enough people to man 1 battleground and we split that force up to try and defend eb and our bl as best we can. At reset last night we never had a queue on any map. You got your PPT you are talking about cus your massive numbers advantage across all 4 maps kept taking our stuff (Coverage).

Lol, were you reading my post? If you’re responding to me, I have no idea how your post interacts with mine at all… I was specifically saying that Darkhaven has a strong primetime presence (even if only due to numbers, whatever). So pointing out that we did win BUT ONLY BECAUSE OF NUMBERS, does nothing to interact with my point.

If you wouldl like some props that guild FUN is the only decent group of dh I have seen in any of our matchups. On the flip side of the coin your BRL Brazilian baddie blob is probably the largest group of terrible players ever to grace wvw. Those guys are simply awful but still do ok taking stuff cus they roll in a blob of 100.

Also, if you’re from DR, that’s not only rude of you to have said, but also kind of ironic. I don’t want to be too rude to a whole server, so I’ll just leave it there.

Darkhaven, for sure. We’ve been involved in the closest matchups in the world, and even got mentioned by Anet for one of our close matchups. On top of that, even though a lot of the time it’s close calls, we do usually win, as we’re currently 2nd in our league. The best thing about Darkhaven is coverage. For our ranking, we have amazing coverage, we’re a very well rounded server by bronze standards.

Also, we have a fairly large PvE playerbase so we’re in a better position for living world content than other non-populated servers. Darkhaven is well rounded and gives you everything you could need, IMO. I’m from Darkhaven but I assure you lol, everything I’ve said is true.

Narcin Roc.3018:

Arius.7031:

We’ll win due to coverage? Why does everyone say that x.×. We have a strong prime time game toooooooooooooo!1111!11

You say you have strong prime time game, but all i remember from last night is most AR-DH fights ending in a DH wipe, not to say they weren’t fun or close. ^^ Let’s keep it up.

I refer you to: http://mos.millenium.org/servers/view/46/

You can check the PPT during prime time. There was only one very brief moment where AR overtook us by 10 points. Rest was 80-100 ppt lead. At a lot of points we took 320-400 PPT. Note that I’m not saying this is exceptional, just that our primetime force isn’t non-existent. Also notice that, while you may have been beating us in one map, were you in the other three? Part of prime time is numbers lol, not just how on zerg performs against another.

We’ll win due to coverage? Why does everyone say that x.×. We have a strong prime time game toooooooooooooo!1111!11

Twayne.6597:

Assassin X.8573:

good fight earlier FC bonze guy warrior in FC bl by minotaurs! i was playtestigna new build and you gave me a great sample!

i was impressed by your skill with gs/lb. keep up the good fight! you may win next time

That was me. Good fight. Thanks to your companion for letting us 1v1.

That was me haha, that was an intense fight between you two. Fun stuff to watch.

You’ve got a few types of endgame, and various ways to go about it:

Achievement points hunting.

• Do all kinds of content in game

Gear hunting (exotics, ascended, legendaries, and cosmetics).

• Dungeons
• Fractals
• Harvesting
• Champ farming
• World Bosses

SPvP

• Hotjoin
• Organized Competitive PvP

WvW

• Solo roaming
• Havoc squad
• Zerging
• Commanding
• Soon to have GvG

Living World Content

• Play through bi-weekly content updates
• Complete Meta Achievement

That is a list of end game activities that I’m aware of, I may have missed a few. There are also some things to do to supplement these, such as:

Daily Achievements
Monthly Achievements
Activities

• Southsun Survival
• Keg Brawl
• Sanctum Sprint
• Crab Toss

Hmm… I’ll start off by saying I pretty much only WvW with a dash of SPvP thrown in, so keep that in mind.

Two hand:
Staff – 3/5. Very useful in WvW zerg combat for aoe damage/heals and line of warding. Generally less useful for other types of content.

Greatsword – 4/5. Solid AoE burst damage, mobility from skill 3, and skill 5 synergizes well with other skills on weapon. Not the best when it comes to sustain though.

Hammer – 4.5/5. Very high sustain damage, with auto attack chain doing a lot of damage and giving a symbol that adds protection. Blast finisher that hits very kitten low cooldown. Skill 3 for immob is great for PvP/WvW. Skill 4/5 synergize very well for PvP/WvW allowing you to really mess up your opponent. Only drawback being that it’s slow and harder to use than greatsword. Of course, Hammer on warrior hits harder, has more CC, and is quicker, but whatever.

Main Hand:

Sword – 3.5/5. Sword reach, with only one attack that can hit multiple targets (auto attack, which is affected heavily by short reach). But, auto has high sustain, it hits quick, skill 2 is a solid gap closer with some utility found in its blind, and skill 3 does pretty good semi-ranged damage with a cooldown that is too long.

Scepter – 3.5/5. The auto attack is clumsy, hard to use on moving targets, gets easily intercepted by things such as mesmer clones etc… Scepter skill 2 keeps it competitive. It does a lot of damage to targets that stand in it, making this pretty good for PvE (and on a low cooldown). Skill 3 synergizes well with skill 2, make it somewhat useful in PvP.

Mace – 4/5. This is probably the most underrated weapon for guards, IMO. It has HUGE burst capabilities, and can keeps its user and allies healed both by auto attack chain and by the symbol (which itself does good damage). The problem is, it suffers from what both the hammer suffers from and the sword suffers from. It has the short reach of the sword, and the slow hitting of the hammer. Your target needs to remain stationary for symbol to do damage, and close to you for auto to do damage. Skill 3 is absolutely amazing for burst damage when roaming, especially in conjunction with meditations. The biggest issue is, unlike hammer which has a good amount of control, this weapon has none, and no gap closers. This makes it harder to use than the hammer even.

Off Hand:

Focus – 4/5. Pretty uncontroversially the best offhand we’ve got. Skill 5 is amazing for defense and offense, being crucial in 1 hand burst builds and allowing you to negate a good deal of damage (especially from slower hitting weapons).

Shield – 3/5. It’s just meh. It can support well using skill 5 to block projectiles/heal and skill 4 to give protection, but overall it’s just very meh IMO.

Torch – 3/5. Again, just meh. I think it has some good synergy with scepter for 1v1’s. You immobilizes the target, use skill 2 where they are, pop skill 4, and pop skill 5, as well as maybe meditations if you want to add to your burst. That will do very solid damage. Overall, skill 5 isn’t as good damage for the cast time as the auto attack on many weapons, though it’s probably better than scepter for PvP because it’s so unreliable.

Just my opinions.

The battles at SM… the three way at QL that just went down… so much good stuff, so much loot! GLORIOUS.