Guild Wars 2

Auesis.7301:

I’ll remain satisfied that I’ve yet to see more than one other person on Gandara that has Bolt. Everyone is too obsessed with GSs and Staffs.

Anvil rock here, have not seen anyone yielding a bolt either. I f no one gets it in around 2 months i may be the only on my server. And yeah, too many gs

Avoid people with a legendary?

Some people are really Full of envy. How can you stereotype every legendary bearer into a cash machine or a lifeless hopeless little guy?

Let me tell you what. I have a quite respectable salary for my age and never spent a penny in my pursuit in getting a legendary.

Its like saying that from now on i will avoid all people with a phd because they obvously study way much more than me.

Let me also add that in a server many legendary owners know each other in the game and how each one has acquired theirs. The same people i see everyday while farming will know that when i get mine it was my hard earned work, not by buying it from the TP. Only they and my guildies understand how tough it is to get one and tbh i dont really care what other people think.

When some guy in masterwork gear appears the next day in full T3 and a legendary you can then attempt to stereotype, and yet still unjustifiably.

Get over yourselves and stop whining

jumping into an epic battle with your buddy against 5 enemies and defeating them all.

- Win

Farzo.8410:

So now we have Twilight, Sunrise, The Bifrost, and Incinerator on the TP?

This just feels weird :P

Let me see an Eternity for 50k! lets go!

Ayrilana.1396:

I’m sorry but you should research the concept of probability. It’s quite possible that it can take someone over 500 tries. It’s even possible for it to take 1,000 tries.

No one said its not possible, its just extremely improbable. I’m seeing some nice statistics here but maybe you would like to correct us?

You are where i was 2 weeks ago, just that i went ahead and bought the first gift (after exploration)to force myself stay in the ring.

I knew then, that had i not stuck to the goal (which all a legendary item is imo) i would have regretted settling down without it and i would have come to the forum to write a post just like yours.

Two weeks later, i’m about to get my gift of fortune already because i was lucky with the clovers and i do not regret one bit that i didn’t give up.

No offence but you should know that many legendary seekers do it for the sake of it being in its ultimatum: hard to get, and that it is for them to know they went through th grinding and endles gold sinking and finally got it.

Its nothing more than a goal to look forwarding to.

EDIT: Just think, a year from now you may think back and say: “I couldn’t had that legendary by now”. If you think you will, get back in the race with more determination, make spreadsheets, set weekly goals write down your progress. If you really want a legendary you will get it in due time.

TWMagimay.9057:

Lord Kuru.3685:

TWMagimay.9057:

What data did you base your calculations on?

33% chance of getting a clover per try — according to the wiki…

Saw in the other clover topic that the 33% chance was based on 159 tries, a remarkably low sample size. Wiki is pretty much fan-made, only the devs have the real value. Without that, your calculations are pure guesswork. Also, probability is just that, probable. There is nothing even remotely guaranteed about it.

I believe that a sample size large enough “Can” guarantee an approximation to that probability. Also, this greatly depends on the randomization algorithm used.

I will agree though that if the sample size was based on 159 tries it shouldn’t even be used as the norm in a wiki.

Lord Kuru.3685:

TWMagimay.9057:

What data did you base your calculations on?

33% chance of getting a clover per try — according to the wiki…

I hope that number is right… but to now hear that someone did it in 115 tries (the post above) that 33% sounds a bit fishy!

Sorry that may have been me. The 115 was a typo. I did it by using a total of 171 ectos. My spreadsheet values below. I’m not sure how many singles or 10’s i did but i think its around 61 singles and 11*10’s

Clover Tries 171
Clovers 77
Conversion Ratio 45%
Completion Ratio 100%

I completed this at 45% success which is way higher than the 33% shown in the wiki so i was wondering if its really 33% or if i was just lucky

Did mine in around 170 tries. I know its lucky but my first 50 which were singles were very unlucky. After taking some advice i did stacks of 10 and got on a winning streak.

To do them in 303 tries the probability of that would be very low.

Edit: by 170 tries i mean 170 ectos used and i think that was a 45% success rate instead of 33.3%

Time for me to chip in:
A very sensitive subject; one of unique exotic/legendary weapon material requirements. More specifically, of Charged lodestones. I have been observing the market of all lodestones for several weeks and i have noticed that the supply/demand ratio of charged lodestones is quite disproportionate compared to the other ones. Of-course this should come to no surprise, since several very longed weapons require charged lodestones as a component.

Having said that and having accepted the long destiny that is getting a legendary that requires them, i was wondering if there is a thought of increasing the supply of these lodestones to bring them up to par with the other ones to some extent. At this point they go for up to 4g each, which is a quite hefty amount, especially when you need 250 of them for a non legendary item. Additionally, these lodestones fall prey to the appetites of heavy duty market manipulation.

Some adjustment was made to several T6 material drop rates (from loot bags) and i have noticed that their prices have moved to be much more comparable to the other T6 mats, albeit still relatively higher. Can a similar approach be considered viable?

So, my question is: What are your thoughts about the market of lodestones and are you planning to make some adjustments?

Thanks for the questions. I’m at work, will have a look and update my post tonight

Keep them coming

Having received a response from Chris Whiteside in a previous thread:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/We-your-community-need-more-communication/first#post1052008 we can see some light at the end of the tunnel:)

I would like to put together a constructive set of questions that the community has had since the last live discussion.

I believe that unlike the first AMA, the list questions should not be gathered on an unofficial fan website but from the guild wars 2 official forums. They can be presented in a readable format and answered wherever is appropriate during the next live discussion.

I will Edit this post with new questions as we go so:

1) Read before you post; we don’t want duplicate questions to clutter the thread.
2) Keep your posts clean and constructive, around 3-4 lines tops.
3) Don’t call out names or refer to specific people/developers

Post ahead

Edit: I will be including “1-2” questions from each poster that i consider most valuable. I do understand that some of you have many questions but i don’t think that all can be answered. Also, some of the questions i see here have already be answered in the previous AMA or in forum responses. If you feel that my choice was unfair, feel free to pm me and i’ll see if i can adjust it.

just keeping this alive so that more posters can see this as a positive sign of communication to come

cargan.5689:

Ath.2531:

All joking aside, Whether the thread dies or not is irrelevant at this point. A 20+ page topic is something Anet staff discusses most likely every day in the office.

Unless they mod the office

We thank you for you feedback however we feel there are better ways to express your point more in keeping with office policy you have recived one infraction point, further infractions may limit you acess to the coffee machine.
Your desk will now be merged with the fire escape.

that made me lol

PowerCat.5738:

Ath.2531:

Mala.3861:

Well, it isnt very comforting that Mr Whiteside can take time to communicate about communicating but we can’t get ANYthing about this issue which has been going on since mid-November.

I don’t know what else we have to do to at least get a response about this problem. I am not wanting another AMA. I am still waiting for further information which the last one seemed to imply would be forthcoming.

We’ve gotten a response that they are listening and that that there is an AMA on the way. I am confident that It is quite expected by them by now that half the AMA will be about loot.

There is doubtfully any way for them to dodge a question like this. I think we can rest assured that there will me more light on this issue soon.

The problem is that anyone who’s not a “hardcore gamer” or has never played enough, or started the game after the loot nerf will never know about this.

So if they keep ignoring it, eventually we’ll shut up, and the new players will never know how it used to be, and will just consider the low drops as “normal”.

Don’t let this thread die, the info needs to be known and we want to know!

“Thoughts unspoken have the tendency to multiply” – Unknown proverb

And let me give you an example of how player comments look on the forums:

Week 1: We have a loot issue. Please hear us Anet!
Week 2: Anet doesnt care about us! Still having loot issue
Week 3: Anet is a greedy company leading us to the Gem store
Week 4: Anet is an Evil Secret Society planning to conquer the planet with alien Technology
Week 5: Thank you Anet, all my issues are fixed!

All joking aside, Whether the thread dies or not is irrelevant at this point. A 20+ page topic is something Anet staff discusses most likely every day in the office.

Mala.3861:

Well, it isnt very comforting that Mr Whiteside can take time to communicate about communicating but we can’t get ANYthing about this issue which has been going on since mid-November.

I don’t know what else we have to do to at least get a response about this problem. I am not wanting another AMA. I am still waiting for further information which the last one seemed to imply would be forthcoming.

We’ve gotten a response that they are listening and that that there is an AMA on the way. I am confident that It is quite expected by them by now that half the AMA will be about loot.

There is doubtfully any way for them to dodge a question like this. I think we can rest assured that there will me more light on this issue soon.

Chris Whiteside.6102:

Hi All,

Thanks for your feedback. I am currently out of the office and return in the New Year, at which time i intend to do another Q and A with the community. In the interim rest assured that we constantly look at the forums, evaluate feedback, discuss opinions and work toward many of the issues and suggestions communicated therein. We very much appreciate both your feedback and support, as it is integral to the evolution of the game and our relationship with you all as a community of people that care very much about Guild Wars 2.

I am looking forward to getting the chance to connect with you all again soon. Until then i hope you are enjoying the Wintersday Celebrations and the holiday season in general.

Chris

An Unexpectedly received and wholeheartedly appreciated response.

Looking forward to the AMA Chris!

Support my thread on us, the community asking for more communication
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/We-your-community-need-more-communication/first#post1050195
Please keep it constructive if you do.

Rukia.4802:

Dying to see their comments on loot and DR lolol.

My question is: Will DR be removed and loot buffed dramatically or should I just go ahead and quit the game indefinitely, this is a serious question for many I think.

Until a satisfactory answer me, my friends and family will remain in pandaland.

No monthly fee doesn’t save you from horrible design.

Lets keep it constructive. Everyone is affected by this but there are many reasons to keep playing even with DR.

1) Normalize loot drop rates to a pre November 15th minus a set percentage (-10%,, -20%)
2) Make Chanpions and veterans drop loot as it was mentioned that they should be.
3) Lower the non magic find stats of MF gear rendering it useless for dungeons and challenging to farm with.

Win

Naqaj.6219:

The forum community is a minority. Certainly not an unimportant one, but a minority nontheless.
Once a thread is posted, a point is made, the interaction is fulfilled. Don’t wait for devs to answer you, that is not the purpose of this forum, and it never was.

Granted, more regular announcements wouldn’t go amiss.

I am definitely not asking for a response to this thread. Just merely expressing some sentiments. All that i am personally asking for is transparency.

Chuo.4238:

And while you’re at it, mind communicating from places other than Reddit? Most people don’t use it. Try your own website, please, ArenaNet.

This, i wholeheartedly agree with.

Let me start with a question in the AMA with Chris Whiteside:

46. Are we going to see an increase to the regularity of community communications, like a weekly newsletter? Is it possible to have more direct involvement with fansites or non-commercial sites with this increase of information flow? A regular release of insights and info may help relieve some of the need to do a 10 hr AMA in the future.

“i love the goal here and it is an area i have been thinking about a lot today. Specifically a more frequent conversation between the community and the team. Still brainstorming around it, so watch this space.”

This is just my take on what the game needs badly right now.

Communication.

Unless it is a common belief from the company as a whole that the forum community is an unimportant minority then i do feel we deserve to have some overdue questions answered. There are some very, very active threads out there which people are trying to keep alive, in order to pass a point across. We do know the point is made and that it is read. Moderation is strong in the forums, so someone definitely reads these threads. But for a reason unknown to me, answers are very very selective.

Where are the answers? Where are the patch notes regarding buffs, nerfs, changes in mechanics? What we get is a very very abstract representation(if any) of what we see in the game. Show us more details, let us theorycraft about the things we love in the game.

Where is your long lost communication on the forums?

And most importantly: Where is your transparency?

EDIT:
Thanks for the Mod.

I would wish to specify my concerns and would like others to also do that but i don’t want this post to be merged under a thread 10-20 pages long since this will render it practically unreadable.

Who ever posts below, please be constructive. This is not a whine with cheese and wine post
EDIT: Changed the title to be more relevant to the subject

Clicking search again allows you to type in the BL window again

LFM Molter Core!

I am reposting this here for everyone to read since the thread i made earlier was merged into a thread that i would definitely not want to post in.

Pattern one – “The Classic”
Consider a possible farming scenario for 1 player farming in a single High Level Location:
First 30 min: Normal loot drop rate
1 hour in: Normal loot drop rate
1 hour 15 min in: Loot drop rate reduced so drastically that i cant give it a percentage, but almost surely by more than 75%
*Remark – The time this happens is not constant. And it literally shuts your loot down with an on/off switch.

Pattern Two – “The Lucky Guy/Girl”
Consider a Scenario for 5 players farming in a single High Level Location.
Players 1-5 kill the same mobs, dealing approximately the same damage, both with the same % of MF. We can assume they are either solo or in a good damage dealing group.
Player 1 gets 10 rares in 2 hours. Players 2-5 gets 1 rare in 4 hours.
*Remark: It is statistically near impossible to have such a scenario occur when probabilistic formulas are not tampered with. This is the lucky day scenario when your luck is ON or OFF for several hours at a time. It happens consistently in inconsistent time intervals.

Pattern Three – “A Timely Reset”
Server restarts…Players farm for 1-2 hours and experience drop rates, equal than or better than the pre november 15 patch. After that, Pattern One kicks in.
*Remark: This is an observation for now, one that i would rather gather more data before i cal it a scenario.

Pattern Four – “Taking a Break”
Assume Pattern 1 occurs. A player may decide to take a break to supposedly clear the DR timer. Player returns back to the same area after 1-2 hours. Rather inconsistently, the drop rates may or may not improve.
*Remark: None

Pattern Five – “Moving around”
Assume Pattern 1 occurs. A player may decide to switch to a zone to supposedly clear the DR timer. Player experiences absolutely no change. DR is present and well and there is still an influx of gray quality drops, just like before moving around.
*Remark: None

General Notes:
- Drop rates for Materials seems unaffected.
- Loot bags seem unaffected.
-The DR in its core is implemented in much a way that it is statistically near impossible to understand. There are multiple patterns that explain when it is present but they just don’t add up to be a feature. Its behavior is in fact and in my opinion like a BUG.

Take everything you see above with a grain of salt, as none of it has any math to back it up. If you observe any more DR patterns, feel free to post them

Moderator.6837:

Hello Ath.2531 & Navi.7142,

We understand you concerns about this issue, and we will take note of it

However, in the future please don’t open a new thread to ask for such thing, consider sending an e-mail to forums@arena.net instead.

Much appreciated. Now, If that thread was put back to its original place, it would be much much more appreciated. I do feel that a lot of constructive feedback could be received from players and be used to help identify some issues and potentially (albeit over-optimistically) help the devs.

But for the most part, Threads where technicalities are presented for players to discuss, make a lot of forum readers feel at ease and to understand that Anet is not some evil empire trying to take over the galaxy.

Navi.7142:

I agree and already reported it.
For me it is an euphemism to keep the “better looking” name which does not even to some extent reflect the serious conversation about problems and issues with the DR mechanic in the other thread.

To make it simple:
“Why the current DR is a good thing” IS NOT THE SAME LIKE “DR – An analysis of Observations”

I assumed that it is not easy to demerge the merged threads, so I suggested to change the title into something neutral like “DR – discussions”. It is not really acceptable compared to before, but at least it isn’t misleading and an euphemism.

Thank you for supporting this

This is not a complaint that my thread “DR – An analysis of Observations” was merged with another thread on the same context but with a thread with the title “Why the current DR is a good thing”, thus effectively burying some hard work putting a constructive post together under a thread whose title implies the complete opposite.

I do understand that a lot of work is done to keep the forums in order but some of us take time and effort to make mature, constructive discussions and its a shame when something like this happens.

That is all

And yeah, my whole thread which attempts to explain the issues behind the mechanics of DR is merged in a thread titled: “Why the current DR is a good thing”

Are the moderators even serious anymore?

Yumiko Ishida.3769:

I might like to try if you allow it to be posted here, a farming of one set of enemies for a whole hour. I’m thinking moas in a certain area or the barracudas and see what turns up.

As i am not a moderator, its not up to me to “allow” your post:)
Feel free to share your findings but 1 hour of farming doesn’t really constitute a good time sample size. Try 3-4 hours in a preferably lvl 80 zone if you can

Thanks

mulch.2586:

Pattern Two —
People’s perception of the occurrence of rare events is naturally misguided.

The number of rare items in a period of farming should follow a Poisson process. The math behind it ensures that you will see clusters, that some people will be much richer than others.

It’s natural to be superstitious. The brain creates patterns when there are none, cuz that’s what brains do.

If indeed the number of rares over time follows a poisson distribution with an extremely low lambda in a Probability mass function, doesn’t that constitute of an easy-to-compute DR mechanism? If so, is there a possibility that the lambda was much higher before november 15th?

In this thread i would like to present several observations i have made throughout the time i have played farming for materials and drops in order to acquire goods, solely for personal use. The topic will focus on the current DR which has been introduced early in the game. Whether this is currently a bug or intentional, i have not heard any official updates in over a month, thus i feel the obligation to present my findings through several observations.

Pattern one – “The Classic”
Consider a possible farming scenario for 1 player farming in a single High Level Location:
First 30 min: Normal loot drop rate
1 hour in: Normal loot drop rate
1 hour 15 min in: Loot drop rate reduced so drastically that i cant give it a percentage, but almost surely by more than 75%

*Remark – The time this happens is not constant. And it literally shuts your loot down with an on/off switch.

Pattern Two – “The Lucky Guy/Girl”
Consider a Scenario for 5 players farming in a single High Level Location.
Players 1-5 kill the same mobs, dealing approximately the same damage, both with the same % of MF. We can assume they are either solo or in a good damage dealing group.
Player 1 gets 10 rares in 2 hours. Players 2-5 gets 1 rare in 4 hours.

*Remark: It is statistically near impossible to have such a scenario occur when probabilistic formulas are not tampered with. This is the lucky day scenario when your luck is ON or OFF for several hours at a time. It happens consistently in inconsistent time intervals.

Pattern Three – “A Timely Reset”
Server restarts…Players farm for 1-2 hours and experience drop rates, equal than or better than the pre november 15 patch. After that, Pattern One kicks in.

*Remark: This is an observation for now, one that i would rather gather more data before i cal it a scenario.

Pattern Four – “Taking a Break”
Assume Pattern 1 occurs. A player may decide to take a break to supposedly clear the DR timer. Player returns back to the same area after 1-2 hours. Rather inconsistently, the drop rates may or may not improve.
*Remark: None

Pattern Five – “Moving around”
Assume Pattern 1 occurs. A player may decide to switch to a zone to supposedly clear the DR timer. Player experiences absolutely no change. DR is present and well and there is still an influx of gray quality drops, just like before moving around.
*Remark: None

General Notes:
- Drop rates for Materials seems unaffected.
- Loot bags seem unaffected.
-The DR in its core is implemented in much a way that it is statistically near impossible to understand. There are multiple patterns that explain when it is present but they just don’t add up to be a feature. Its behavior is in fact and in my opinion like a BUG.

Please add more observations under this post, which i can add to this one.

Post Constructively

Flynch.6034:

Ath.2531:

Flynch.6034:

DR is fine, it is the loot drop regularity (or lack thereof) prior to DR kicking in that is the issue.

DR is not fine. It never was and never should be. I would rather have an overall loot drop rate decrease across the board instead of a gimmick jumping in my face at unpredictable times and with unpredictably bad outcomes.

I have zero issues with it as it is not my playstyle to stay in one place and spam mobs for drops. I have nothing against other players doing it – but they will have to face the DR as a deterrent.

It is not a gimmick – it is an effective way to stop bloating from previously insane botting. Hopefully when the bot situation is well in-hand they can lower the DR criteria, but as of now, it is fine and really doesn’t affect me in any way whatsoever.

Notice that i’m not saying ‘us’, but ‘me’ instead. Something the forum needs to also start adopting imo.

Even though im almost serious this is trolling at its finest, let me repeat your words in fewer words: “DR does not affect me. Also, i don’t farm so i don’t mind farming being nerfed”

What should the forum start adopting? the “ME” rule?

Please, whatever it is you were doing, go do that instead of being in the forums passing around this silliness.

Flynch.6034:

DR is fine, it is the loot drop regularity (or lack thereof) prior to DR kicking in that is the issue.

DR is not fine. It never was and never should be. I would rather have an overall loot drop rate decrease across the board instead of a gimmick jumping in my face at unpredictable times and with unpredictably bad outcomes.

So, it seems that it has been observed by a few people that DR may be inactive for the first few hours right after a server reset. Let me also add that around 150% MF makes a tremendous difference during that time frame.

For the time being keep your eyes on the loot/time spent right after a server restart and report your findings. I want to know if this observation is in fact true

Blaeys.3102:

I play alot and I have never once experienced diminishing return.

Play the game as it was obviously intended. Dont stand in one area (or even stay in the same zone) repeating the same small number of events over and over for hours. That isnt heroic and it isnt fun. Branch out, tackle new events you havent been to in a few days, switch between farming mobs and tackling dynamic events – there is plenty to do to keep DRs from kicking in.

One of my favorite things to do is start at one end of a zone and work my way through it. In most zones, you make a fair amount of coin and karma doing this – and it is fun.

People keep looking for an easy/simple way to acquire mats for their legendaries. The thing is, if it were easy or simple, then they wouldnt be legendary.

Stop looking for shortcuts and play the game.

In your own definition you are telling us to follow your approach of how the game should be played. So sorry, but you are doing nothing different than what you are trying to tell us to avoid. There is no “one way” the game is meant to be played. That is the essence of the meaning of the word “grind”.

Going for a legendary is surely not easy but by your approach it would take around a year to get it, dedicating the exact amount of hourly play that a hardcore player would put in to get that legendary in 3 months .

“Stop looking for shortcuts and play the game”

Do you mean: “Stop trying to be more effective in what you do than the majority of people”?
I know a bunch of people with this mindset. It is the mindset of the casual player. Looking for shortcuts is not for everyone but for people who like to be practical during their game-time. That in its essence is a form of enjoyment; the true meaning of Hard-Core: All members of a person/guild tightly bound Together for maximum efficiency, organized to succeed with minimum cost

What many casual players don’t understand is the sheer enjoyment in all things practical even during game time.

I do appreciate your ideas but they fall short of anything insightful.

Saulius.8430:

yeah.. some of my friends moved over to NA servers, as its ‘easier’ to get groups there. and i cannot play with them anymore

yeah.. some of my friends moved over to NA servers, as its ‘easier’ to get groups there. and i cannot play with them anymorecannot move there myself as i have some obligations for guild at wvw

Obligations for guild?
Also, i think that you should reiterate the definition of “friend” in your vocabulary. If they were your friends they stay around…

Kindread.9481:

I think they should impliment a “Thumbs Up” rating that you can give people. Once you reach X# of Thumbs Up you are granted either a PvE icon, or a PvP icon. You should only be able to give someone a Thumbs Up if you are grouped, to prevent people from randomly decreasing your Thumbs Up points pool just beacuse they woke up on the wrong side of the bed.

I have yet to run into a “Commander” that was actually leading. I have grouped with a few in dungeons and its the exact same. As Porky said, the Commander icon does not mean anything except that person had 100 gold … and is now likely broke.

Even though your idea has some merit in it it votes can be greatly exploited for, and against the person trying to be a commander. Status symbols such as commander or having a legendary should never, ever depend on other people to be achieved. Instead, they should be a result of successful effort over time spent. Time spent can be measured easily but success is a very complicated thing that cannot easily be calculated, albeit a possible factor to be considered.

On Anvil rock, not the best WvW server i have observed several hard working commanders who spend a considerable amount of time leading. yes, commander symbols in pve don’t really have much value and players should have the option to switch them off.

But why would you assume that just because someone spent 100g it means that now they’re poor? I’m surprised by the sheer amount of people thinking that 100g is a huge amount of gold to have earned, thus assuming everyone else who has spent it has to be poor? That mentality i don’t get…And i really don’t wanna use the word “envy” again today…

Lazy.2389:

I saw this, reported it and didn’t take advantage. I guess I’ve learned my lesson. Hate the world.

I saw this and didn’t take advantage. I guess I’ve remained set in my ideals.

ShaiHulud.7410:

Bare with me guys.

Today we had a patch, right?

Ok.

Malchor’s Leap. Aprroximately 2 hours of grinding without any breaks , but only changing waypoints.

1 exotic, 3 rares, 2 charged lodestones, 2 onyx lodestones and loads of greens. White trash also and blues, as usual.

I don’t know what happened but there are 3 possibilites:

1. Either Magic find was fixed. I am running at ~ 170 % magic find atm.

2. Either the loot table was adjusted with this patch.

3. Either I am a lucky kitten and this was just a strike in my usual grinding.

I will grind for another 2-3 hours and keep you posted.

Meanwhile, I would like the rest to come here and confirm if something has changed in their grind patterns / loot tables.

Thanks.

Did you attempt this right after server sestart? Because i swear, i have started noticing that right after a server restart i “always” get a ton of rares in cursed shore, just like the pre november 15th patch. After an hour or 2, its back to normal.

Ok, i will bite…

I like farming, i really do. This is so because i set a goal and think of an effective approach in pursuing it. Every copper made out there is one step closer to attaining a my legendary. I decided to get a legendary sometime after the November 15 nerfs. It’s been painful, joyful, exciting, boring, annoying…Yet i have made good progress.

I also like spreadsheets, i love them. They help me keep track of my progress and also help me plan my next steps in an orderly manner so that i can avoid stress and be in control of my pursuit.

I will have my legendary in approximately less than 2 months from today, with everything planned step by step.

@OP sorry if this comes as a shock but in your post it seems as if you are very confused. Do you really have a valid reason behind thinking that DR is good or is it because you want less people having legendaries, because you don’t have one either?

I mean, at times i despair too because getting one is really tough nowadays but you are showing us that you like DR because it Hinders other people’s progress in being rich and prevents them in acquiring in game goods that way.

You should really check the definition of the word “Envy” and try deviating away from it.

Being a natural born farmer, i deal very little with the seasonal stuff or market manipulations, but i do observe the trends on a very regular basis to know whats going on(mainly for the mats i need for my legendary)

I take everything said on this forum with a grain of salt and so should everyone else.

But i am no exploiter, and i do not ever intend to be one.

The question i would like to ask you is: Does this bother some people because its nearly impossible to manipulate the ecto market?

Just a thought.

i can confirm sparks remain unaffected. Got 2 in around 45 min today. Not always this lucky but still the same drop rate i think

With a 48% success rate by mostly using stacks of 10. I don’t know whether i am just lucky or not but this has been a good Christmas present

Thank you Zommoros, as much as i hate saying it

To all saying that you noticed loot may have gotten better, let me reassure you it did not. Check the Market. Prices are the same. If there were more rares that would have increased supply, thus prices would naturally fall.

We will have a better idea after the holiday since people arent really farming all that much now, but in over 8 hours of farming i have gotten 3-4 rares tops.

No changes.

I am also going for bolt my self. Going through all this pain to get it i can tell you from the depths of my heart..

CONGRATS!

Today i did 5×10 tries and got 30 clovers. 46 total for now. One step closer a day…

I am asking this question to get player responses regarding our previous loot issues to see if there have been any changes.

Keep it civil

cesmode.4257:

It was moving at a snails pace, now it errored out. Connection errors.

This is why you provide the update BEFORE HAND, so people can download it throughout the week. Then flick a switch and make it live… Another game does this and it is successful.

If they had the update beforehand, do you think they would wait until now to push it? Obviously there were some issues