Guild Wars 2

Kain Francois.4328:

TWMagimay.9057:

jaw drop Try this: Check how much gold you make doing what you enjoy. Set your expectations based on that. If you are not making a few g/day, you should probably realise that spvp doesn’t give you gold, because you don’t need gold in spvp. That’d make your time in GW2 a lot more enjoyable.

I kinda have to side with this guy. From just playing the game normally, you can make 1g/hour. The secret? Just casually doing dungeons and fractals. Sometimes when I’m bored I run “Tunnel Farm” in Cursed Shore when it’s not bugged (3g/hour) or sometimes I do Straits of Devastation meta events and help lvl70s with events.

Of course, from farming Sparks, you can also make 30g a day…

Come on guys. It’s not that bad.

BY “a day” I suppose you mean 24 hours. That evens out to 30g/24h = 1.25g/h which is a hideous amount for pursuing a long term goal such as a legendary.

And keep in mind that those do not necessarily drop 1 lodestone/h

The RNG is strong within that spot, really strong

Vlad Morbius.1759:

I’ll be keeping a very close eye on what happens after this content patch before making any further comments. I’m hoping that they have accomplished what they set out to do and will now make open world content viable again for those of us who do not enjoy dungeon crawling. As it stands today the changes have crippled solo play advancement for me and I have now played a full month with the only exotic I have received from the loot table since reaching a week prior to the Lost Shore nerfs.

Oh please. A casual, unless leveling up, should be earning at least half a gold per hour doing almost anything. Don’t exaggerate.

I’ve mentioned this a couple of times: The point has been made. Let the thread die. It’s of no use keeping it on life support.

Mala.3861:

Ath.2531:

Mala.3861:

Please, there is no quicker way to get this thread locked that to start comparing Anet to any other MMO development company. So lets keep those types of comparisons out of this thread.

We have been able to vent and give feedback freely so far. Lets not get this locked so we can continue to do so.

The point in this thread has been made. Do you really believe that it being locked or not will make a difference or is it that they haven’t read it yet?

Lets be realistic. The point has been made

The difference is we have a place to voice our thoughts. Will it make a difference? At this point, maybe not. However, as long as this stays active and does not get closed due to our own actions, it remains in Anet’s hands to address us or to pointedly ignore us.

Anet has already responded to this matter. The answer is Silence, which its self implies a certain approach to how they want to proceed with the community as a whole.

This is no different than being friendzoned and waiting in agony for months to know whether that chick like you or not. Well guess what, she probably doesnt, and as things have it, Anet will neither rebuff loot, nor be more transparent as things move on.

over 700 hours played. I have gotten 1

Torres.2890:

It makes me sad when I see warriors getting killed by a glasscannon thief, cause they refuse to get some kittening Toughness/Vitality. You’re a WARRIOR for kitten sake! QUIT using berserker gear.

I Roll in full berserkers armor and accessories(with soldier runes). I do none the less have an “ok” amount of toughness.

The whole point is NOT sitting through a thief’s burst. To be able to successfully evade a thief’s opening attack and burst takes a lot of practice and as i mentioned earlier, control is key. Having said that, i feel that GS is mostly useless in pvp due to lack to control, thus i prefer my trusty hammer.

We have more than one tools to counter a thief(Assuming a 1v1), such as:

1) Fear me: You see a thief cloaking. Get ready for the opener. Your reaction has to be in the millisecond or else prepare to lose a huge chunk of HP. He opens, you fear him. At this point 50% of thieves will break a lot of cd’s to run away, restealth so they can either try again or never come back. Yes, they will do that because they lost their opener.

2)Shake it off(with soldier’s runes for Bonus condtition removal): Again same scenario, break the opener and proceed in controlling the duel. In this case more thieves will stay on you because you have not cc’d them yet.

3) Shield stance + shield bash is priceless. You can even pop shield stance as soon as a thief opens on you or right before(If they’re not using basilisk venom)

Now, in terms of my weapon of choice, Hammer is truly superior. Why?

Backbreaker
Staggering Blow
Earthshaker

Do you really know how its like on the thief when you successfully chain these 3 abilities? On a glass cannon thief its a 3 shot.

And let me share with you my finest secret combo which doesnt always work but its fun:

I see thief: Bulls Rush + Shield bash + switch to hammer and Backbreaker + Staggering Blow + Earthshaker + Fear me. If needed i will Hammer Shock to snare them

Count the control: 6 CC abilities. Now, They cannot always be chained but sweet jesus when they do…

Also, i use flurry of blows with the sword to snare them in place.

I’d love to post some videos (i have a lot of footage already)where i do 1v1, 1v2, 1v3 with my current build but i’ve been too caught up farming for my legendary. I’ll see if i can.

TLDR: Thieves are seriously a 0% thread 1-1, apart from the very very skilled players, who are good with whichever class they play. Stop rolling around with a GS and full signets. It has to be the most gimmicky build, one you should hve dropped at lvl 60 or so.

Have you had a look at the guild wars 2 wiki page?
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Main_Page

Mala.3861:

Please, there is no quicker way to get this thread locked that to start comparing Anet to any other MMO development company. So lets keep those types of comparisons out of this thread.

We have been able to vent and give feedback freely so far. Lets not get this locked so we can continue to do so.

The point in this thread has been made. Do you really believe that it being locked or not will make a difference or is it that they haven’t read it yet?

Lets be realistic. The point has been made

Aknowledgement of the loot nerfs/bugs and whether it was intended

Alastar.2863:

I have seen a lot of issues being stated all over the forums, but in game its the exact opposite, where are these concerns coming from?
I will respond to the biggest concerns I am seeing on these forums, (and asking for clarification.)

Grind:
I need clarification here, I have a level 80 and I am starting another character just because, I am still enjoying my 80 but I have yet to feel like I am doing a long and repetitive grind, so please, tell me What is grindy?
I see alot of people saying the dungeons in the forums, What are you grinding FOR?

Tokens to get skins? You don’t have to, they are SKINS! You are more likely going to transmutate them to get the skin but the stats of something entirely different. Even if it does feel like a grind, its not going to give you an advantage getting these skins, just make you look “cool” and I think a grind is only worth complaining about if it is the only way to gain an advantage in combat.
Ascended Gear?
Its only a couple items and I hear that the ascended items will become easier to acquire in the future, hopefully it will be much like getting exotics from Orr, and no, your effort toward acquiring the ascended items will not be wasted, its only a couple items and the rest will be made easier to find when the REST are released, so consider the two items a head start.

More exotic gear? There are Karma vendors in Orr who sell exotic gear at each temple, if you don’t want to GRIND for it, just buy exotics from them! Enjoy.

another topic,
Population
In my server there are people everywhere, some places might not be full of thousands of people outside of lions arch but there are more then enough to complete group events and world bosses, any time a world boss spawns I see an army of players on my server! Give your server time, servers have been filling up and so before too long their should be more people. Also, this is where a GUILD will be useful. ask your guildmates if you all want to hit a dungeon, world boss or just run through any zone.

ascended gear
. . . . it has no effect on pvp which is the ONLY time I personally would be concerned. If the gear makes so much of a difference that if you have the “perfect” build for your play style and full exotics and you go up against someone with ascended gear and you loose and there is absolutely NO CONCEIVABLE WAY YOU COULD BEAT THEM just because of the gear THEN I would be concerned, but there are things called “conditions” that can stun, weaken, slow or mobilize another player, take these into consideration and the fact that you can dodge makes the small difference that ascended gear might make unimportant.
Before someone says “if two players with the exact same class, skill, traits and build hit each other at the exact same time. . .” THAT NEVER HAPPENS! This isn’t World of Warcraft where a .01 point difference is a “game breaker” and you just watch animations play until someone dies, you keep moving and use strategy and skill in this game! Besides, again, it has no affect on pvp.

Anyway, once again I would like to know what the “Grind” is in here, I haven’t felt REQUIRED to run through the dungeons at this time, seems to me like the main reason why people run the dungeons is for skins or the ascended gear, if that is not true, please clarify what you are grinding for.

• You mention pvp – Show me a link to your wvw or tournament videos and i will believe that you are qualified to speak with experience, and that gear doesn’t matter.

*You mention pve, please share with us your great achievements. A pic with a legendary, achieved post november will do.

*You say we should turn to Karma gear for our exotics. Karma gear has to have the worst stat combinations ever conceived in the game.

When you set a long term goal and you find the 10 mile wall straight up your face then you will understand what some of the complaints are all about.

As of now you give me the impression that you are the very definition of a casual, one who has very little understanding of the underlying dynamics of this game’s details.

Until you do, learn more about the game, you are not really qualified to give anyone advice, and neither am i for that matter, since i am not listing my sources of experience. I do, though bring up some points you should consider in understanding things a little deeper

At the current state of the market and ROI from out of the market earnings,
Not a single penny

I don’t know. Maybe your posting history from last month could enlighten us.

Lil Puppy.5216:

Well, this is the ‘legendary’ part of the weapons Without the lodestones these weapons would be too easy to acquire.

Updates straight from http://www.gw2spidy.com/item/24305

Sell Price: 4 g 25 s
Buy Price: 3 g 42 s 11 c
Supply: 338
Demand: 3263

The only thing legendary about this situation is one’s cash wallet, because as of now, we are talking about a price 400% of the one in early september.

Just look at the sheer manipulation of the lodestone market as the supply has halved within one day while supply remained steady.

Tell me about the legendary part again, please.

This post serves as a genuine and honest plea for a heads up regarding the post november-15 observed loot issues. I will not go as far as to say that the drop reduction is a result of a bug or a nerf simply because i am not familiar with your systems/algorithms but it is quite obvious that something regarding these rates has been off for a while now.

Many of us have set long term goals in the game and are anxiously waiting for a hint that this issue has been acknowledged and being worked on. It has been roughly one month now and there has been not a single response on this matter to ease our minds.

I personally don’t care about the outcome of this issue will be and do not expect to see a specific response to make me happy. All i really want is to see that we, the gamers are treated with the respect and communication we had been promised.

That is all.

EDIT: This post was actually a new thread. It seems that it was moved here…

Your issue is that you handle it as a defeatist and your first reaction as soon as you see a thief is to run away.

Big mistake.

Grab a shield/Hammer build and never lose to a thief ever again. They key is control.

“I’d settle for when a loadstone is purchased off the TP it becomes account bound. Buy them ‘cause you are gonna use them, not because you’re gonna use your wealth to block another player’s progress.”

They would never do this for a specific item only. What they could do, is allow more ways through which a charged lodestone could be achieved.

I like what Parthis recommended a lot. Going to mount Maelstrom to attune your mats, in some Balthazar like event sounds much more like and adventure and i would graldy dedicate the time and gold to go through an interesting quest to do so.

Generally speaking, Anet has alot to learn in terms of creating legendary item quests from Blizzard. There, i said it. The Cata legendary daggers had a quite interesting story attached to the grind that made it more bearable.

All its going to take is one official comment to say “it was deliberate”
That’s all its going to take for me to delete every character i have and throw this game in the trash bin after nearly 700 hours.

I like my business to be clean and honest and most importantly, to know the rules of the deal UPFRONT

Some may call me crazy to be taking this so seriously but let me ask you this. How comfortable do you feel going for something that was passed to you as one thing and then changed to another without any notice?

I am all in for supporting a company that provides a great game, but one that deliberately skewing my options, leading me to the gem store is unacceptable.

Take a freaking character and make it kill a mob a billion times a second, for gods sake, check the loot. Tell us its a bug!

Or will you, now?

This game has become Trader wars, to the point where they damage the economy far more than the botters did. It is in fact getting out of control. Anet has basically welcomed a form of Wall Street mentality into a Video game where people play to have a good time, and to use the trade post as means to acquire goods. On the contrary, the tradepost is a form where supply and demand has no connection to the playerbase what so ever but other traders instead.

Loot is nerfed to the ground, farming locations have been obliterated, dozen+ constructive player posts have been blatantly ignored regarding this matter and all we got is a generic"we are not deliberately pushing people towards the gem store".

I don’t know how much more data A-Net needs to understand that this is detrimental to the playerbase as a whole.

As a loyal player with almost 700 hours played legitimately, i am so disappointed in the lack of communication from this company regarding this matter that i am seriously considering dropping the ball. I’m giving this game a chance for the winter break.

Maybe i am part of the minority indeed, but Anet has to realize that it is through us that it gets the good and bad press. Loyal players bring friends to the game, form guilds, organize events. Casuals do not. They come and go as they will.

What bothers me the most is that in 20 days they have not addressed the loot nerf issue. Not a single forum post about it.

In the beginning i was skeptical on whether we need more people messing around with the TP.

Then i realized that the more competition in playing the TP, the better prices everyone gets as a result.

Good guide, i hope more people start doing this.

I would suggest to wait. Something is bound to happen in order to normalize the costs of getting a legendary. I, myself am waiting to hear an Official response to the loot nerfs/bug thread before i commit to even buying any of my gifts.

Avatara.1042:

Is there anything else I need to get for these recipes? Saffron? Chocolate? Butter?

You fool me once, shame on you
You fool me twice, shame on you
You fool me thrice…Well, yeah. Shame on me.

Seriously though, there should be something in the TOS to prevent this kind of Market manipulation, not for seasoned players but for new players.

I have observed this trend and its almost no less than scamming to try luring players into buying things from the TP. This is Not Wall Street and i wish something would be done to prevent this from happening, especially on the forums where players come to find information.

Just my honest opinion here

I feel that at this point a new legendary material should be introduced, which would be specific to some of the legendaries or there should be more sources from which lodestones should drop.

I Just cannot see how it is currently possible for the price to ever go down without adjusting drop rates

Min Sale Offer
3 g 94 s 99 c

Max Buy Offer
3 g 50 c

Sale Avail
470

Offer Avail
3266

Margin
35 s 24 c

Straight from http://www.gw2spidy.com/item/24305

Fow how long will this continue? I’d like to know

do you mean legendaries or precursors? There’s a big difference between the two.

Dinks.2478:

Ath.2531:

@OP if you cant dedicate time to make more than 100G per month it means your expectations of getting a legendary sooner than half to one year are unrealistic.

Believe it or not, the precursor is the least of your worries right now. Further more, the prices you mentioned are not true.

If you really want a legendary you need to farm like there is not tomorrow and save everything.

Even though some people may have spent $ for gold, you can’t assume everyone does and Just because you want a free precursor doesn’t mean you are getting it or a legendary either.

We are all struck by the in game recession but instead we push harder to squeeze every copper out of every opportunity we can so that we can keep moving forward.

Yes, legendaries now are much harder to get than 1-2 months ago and seem almost unreachable when you are just starting up. Keep making gold any way you can and hope things get better.

Asking for a precursor in the forums isn’t getting you anything

http://www.gw2spidy.com/item/29169
http://www.gw2spidy.com/item/29185

Making 100g a month is good. Considering the drop rates on everything is garbage. Stop pretending that 100g a month isn’t a lot.

It wasn’t my intention to give the impression that i assume 100g isnt much. Actually, whether it is a lot or not really depends on your status as a gamer and what your goals are.

Farming in brute force and farming in a practical manner has a dramatic effect on your earnings. An example
1) Farming for 6 hours straight may earn you 6g
2) Farming for increments of 2 hours and taking 30 min break within each session may earn you over 10g. That is because you take DR(diminishing returns) into consideration.

If you are going for legendary while netting only 100g per month then it would take you over a year to get it. If that’s ok with you then thats fine. Set a long term plan and go for it.

I work full time (40+hours)and still net at least 200g a month which can be considered not as great by several others who have mastered the TP or other more effective money making techniques.

@OP if you cant dedicate time to make more than 100G per month it means your expectations of getting a legendary sooner than half to one year are unrealistic.

Believe it or not, the precursor is the least of your worries right now. Further more, the prices you mentioned are not true.

If you really want a legendary you need to farm like there is not tomorrow and save everything.

Even though some people may have spent $ for gold, you can’t assume everyone does and Just because you want a free precursor doesn’t mean you are getting it or a legendary either.

We are all struck by the in game recession but instead we push harder to squeeze every copper out of every opportunity we can so that we can keep moving forward.

Yes, legendaries now are much harder to get than 1-2 months ago and seem almost unreachable when you are just starting up. Keep making gold any way you can and hope things get better.

Asking for a precursor in the forums isn’t getting you anything

Can we get an official response on who is getting a chest

Rouven.7409:

Adenos.3018:

(…)

High demand, low supply items like lodestones and silver doubloons can be easily manipulated by the rich at everyone else’s expense. DR makes farming these items completely unviable as they are mostly available in 1 or 2 spots, and in the case of lodestones, I might get enough cores to make 1 lodestone in 3 dungeon runs if I’m lucky.

This is exactly the part I’m beginning to have an increasing problem with. Make no mistake, I have nothing against the person behind the screen playing the system – it’s the system itself that is flawed.

A trader here, someone who only buys items off the TP to sell them back later, does not supply any service. There is no time or distance to be bridged for the goods, there is no expiration for items on the TP and the overall risk is rather minimal (of course this part is up for discussion). The farmer is the one who supplies a service to us – and I can’t be sure that I would be paying him either, transactions are anonymous.

Now usually in other games I don’t have a problem with that at all. Either I am able to acquire what I need myself or I know I can’t at all (raid-gate or the like).

Here there are certain extra factors

- you cannot really farm for some products and it is designed that way – the pre-cursor being the most expensive single part (single item) of it, enter the mystic forge
- I don’t envy other people their wealth, it usually does not affect me, here it does, it drives the price for gems up especially before events
- the gold reward ratio for different playstyles seems skewed, other games usually reward you enough to buy a few things and with time you can afford one or two higher priced items. (Here something costs one Gold I think twice about spending it.)

De-facto I feel driven to either succumb to the “run FotM, run FotM” idea, open up excel and consult gw2spidy more frequent or map the best event routes, place my characters at daily farm spots and so on and so on.

Should it take me time, a long time? Absolutely. Please sprinkle that with some substance – I don’t know, some sort of story. Not just “I swung a pick-axe and I swung a pick-axe again” – unless that is the sole dedication we are going for.

Being at the mercy of other players? Unacceptable.

Offer more transparency on the TP, don’t have the highest offer as your default selling option, show the buy options at the same time. Have offers expire. Let me know who I am buying from.

you nailed it right there. As of now, a legendary item seeker is being at the mercy of other players. That, my friend is the worst form of game capitalism i’ve seen In an mmo.

At least in games where vertical progression is a fact, you know where you’re getting Into from the get go. In gw2, its all a black box where your gold is spent exponentially more than it is filled.

Then we are told that all this is not intended to drive people to the gem store.

I work as a developer myself and god i cannot comprehend how they have created and still allow this monstrous economy to go on like this.

On top of that, 0 communication on this matter

Zerker gear is great for both pve and pvp. The issue is the “Signet Warrior”.

That kind of build promotes the “faceplant” behavior you are talking about. yes, those type of warriors are usually ineffective in most cases i’ve seen.

I run zerker with sword/shield and hammer and i provide outstanding support for my group in many situations.

It’s not the gear, its just the Signet warrior mentality

Horheristo.3607:

I got to spend less than 700 hours to get my Sunrise.

I’m not a big fan of social life, since I can barely get along with anyone. (Online friends are far better and have more in common with me)
I do however have a loving wife that I get to spend my life with, and great paying job that only req. 4 days a week.
Couldn’t really ask for more, I guess it all comes down to how you live your life, and game wise – how efficiently you spend your time in the game to reach your goals.

P.S
If I wanted, I could get another legendary – any, within another month or less if I really wanted to in less than 200 hours. Atm one is more than enough for me.

Kudos to you. I am getting close to 700 myself and have just started not too long ago on my quest for bolt. It’s tough in terms of getting the mats and all but i’m quite determined to get it. Done anything specific which you consider effective during your quest to get it?

Dogblaster.6713:

kiko.4230:

Dogblaster.6713:

kiko.4230:

Like Anet give a F#ck about us guys in getting Legendary….And i do agree that getting Legendary is a pain.unless ur a non lifer and the whole time u spend on the game.But not everyone is like that.Some ppl have a Job,Family,Morgage,college, hobbies,etc.

Well good luck with that then. Complaining about your real life not allowing you to gain the best weapon in game is not way to go buddy

You are your own master. PUT YOUR TIME IN WHATEVER YOU WANT. Like everyone else do.

Read one more time carefully and then speack.
Some ppl like to play this game and do others things too.Not just staying on game tons of hours.So from what u said i guess everyone that want a Legendary need to play 3 months (1200hours just like u) without a social life.And i dont say u have playd this game Non-Stop.But im sure u havent been out too much.So pls before u rush to say some words that have no sense think first.And from the way u spoke i bet ur not older than 18 and dont know what are responsabilities.Or u are older but u still have that mama`s boy life(No Offence).

Those like you, with hobbies, work, wife, kids will just achieve Legendary in a year. Whats problem with that? Are you just jealous because I just dont understand your point.. I did play 3x more than others, I did sacrifice A LOT of time in those 3 months so i think I deserve to get it faster than someone who plays casualy and rather spend time with his family, work, hobbies or whatever.

You just decided to spend your time elsewhere. Instead of having legendary in 3 months like me, you just got more real life stuff going on. So that is fair. Or should I complain here that you did more real life stuff? Because thats only my decision I didnt.

As this is the second time you are calling someone jealous i’m almost convinced that you either are trolling or have some disorder of some sort. Please stop posting here. You neither understand the original concerns i have mentioned nor you have said anything constructive and contribute in derailing the post.

Dogblaster.6713:

Ath.2531:

rancidstick.2704:

So did everyone just ignore that OP dislikes how ridiculous it is when you compare how much it costs to get a legendary now vs earlier, and instead chose to attack him on not wanting to farm?

Thank you

That sounds more like jealousy to me … sadly.

You had same opportunity to do the same, its not Areanets fault you didnt. The market was evolving since release and it has stabilized now, only because you didnt catch the early low prices doesnt give you right to complain and demand low prices again. The current prices are where they should be.

I agree that Legendaries were cheaper first 2 months after release but that was obvious. Not so many players wanted legendary back then, many players didnt even hit 80 back then. SO THERE WAS LOW DEMAND FOR T6 mats, lodestones and precursors, etc.

PRICES always mirror current DEMAND by players. Current demand is 10x higher than it was 2 months ago.
So if more players want precursor now than 2 months ago, prices of precursors will increase. If even more players will demand more precursors, T6 material, lodestones, etc in next year you can bet price may go up even higher.

Higher demand = higher the prices

Simple. Nothing to complain here if you know how economy works.

No offense but you sound like a bitter elitist who is begging for respect for having a legendary.and you also sound like you feel entitled because you literally had no life for 3 months and the advantage of the new market which had ridiculously low mat prices. Why in the world would i be jealous, especially Of you? I will get the legendary, regardless of the time it takes and I will maintain a high paying job, a healthy lifestyle and A relationship.

I seriously dont get it with some people. I have clearly stated i want a fair chance at a legendary, not an easy mode. What you really show that you want is others to have a harder time than you did, so that you will feel more special for longer.

Anyway, /rant off

How do you get 23g a day again? I get no more than 1-2g per hour, especially with DR in place. Do you mean a whole day, as in 24 hours?

rancidstick.2704:

So did everyone just ignore that OP dislikes how ridiculous it is when you compare how much it costs to get a legendary now vs earlier, and instead chose to attack him on not wanting to farm?

Thank you

I swear to god, if i was an Anet dev i would have placed a non account bound lemon somewhere in the world.

Eyelusion.8205:

OP is wrong. I got 6 or 7 of these the last few days just from rewards for completing challenges and from opening a couple of black lion chests gotten from playing PvE and doing map completions. I even got 2 black lion chest keys recently.

I don’t know what kind of challenges you’re referring to but i have over 600 hours played and 100% map completion. I have gotten —One… kitten .Kit--

I have received some keys but really, BL chests are a gamble and a bad one at that.

For the record, i’m going for Bolt

whiran.1473:

There is nothing in a Legendary that -needs- the use of the Trading Post.

One can obtain a legendary by farming for it.

The use of the trading post is to trade time spent doing one thing for not having to spend time doing another thing.

A lot of people buy their precursor weapon because they don’t want to spend the time, energy, or effort creating their own. But, they could have. Instead, they spend the amount of gold that they perceive as equating the value of the item.

If prices are going up on the Trading Post across the board then it doesn’t change the amount of time in needed for a legendary. If one aspect of a legendary is rising faster in price than another then focus on that one aspect and use it to buy up the cheaper elements.

If ArenaNet “nerfs” the drop rate of X but leaves Y as it is, then farm Y to buy up X. Or, since X’s price will rise, farm X and buy up Y – depending how the prices come out in the end.

This i definitely agree with. The only issue i’m discussing is that
1) A significant number of X’s have nerfed drop rates or have inflated market values.
2) Y’s are mostly needed for the gifts, thus are not sold and cannot acquire X from them.
3) Due to 1) using the TP at all for convenience is severely restricted regardless of gold being easier to make.

1,2, and 3 were not an issue last month or 2 but they are now. And This inconvenience will probably result me in taking a good 20%+ more time in acquiring what i need for the gifts.

Esplen.3940:

Do dungeons every day —> trade tokens for high level rares or exotics.
Salvage rares/exotics.
~2g per full dungeon without tokens --> ecto and loot.

Which dungeon are you referring to? And also, i expect this to be nerfed. I’m not sure if its intented for the duyngeon rewards to be salvageable

As some people have correctly interpreted in my original post, i am more than willing to farm and have been doing so on a regular basis. I also occasionally buy rares (with buy orders ofcourse) to salvage for ectos but the only worthwhile salvaging kit(BL) costs 5g to buy with gems which is insanely overpriced.

As it has already been mentioned and observed, drop rates have been severely decreased which means that doing clovers is going to be a nightmare. Also, lodestones are well over 250% of the price they were 2 months ago.

I don’t see why legendary mat # requirements aren’t dynamically adjusted based on the market

penatbater.4710:

yes but getting gold is easier now than before. well, “easier” since the value of gold is less now than before.

Let me give you an example why gold didn’t matter before:

Before, You could farm for rares to salvage for ectos and gather for T6 mats. Those , you would keep for a legendary, instead of selling.

Now, you can farm for them as well, the difference is that the DR and loot drop nerfs have resulted in extremely reduced rare item /T6 acquisition. What this means is that you have to keep the T6 that you gather instead of selling them which means that you can barely make any gold.

The main issue is large demand, low supply which leads to ecto and T6 mat price inflation

This post is a general observation on how the current state of the market makes the pursue for a legendary almost out of grasp.

Even though i do understand that getting one should be really hard, there is one fundamental flaw in the design of this pursuit, as it is heavily dependent on the TP (as of now) This is so, because farming is really crushed right now, with drops diminished from normal and higher difficulty mobs.

As the market has shifted to extremely high prices for T6 mats, no changes have been applied what so ever to normalize the quantities required for each Legendary. A few examples below

250 ecto: 84g (52g around a month ago (less than 30g around 2 months ago))
All 8 t6 mats: 296g (was 110g a month ago (was less than 40g 2 months ago)
100 charged lodestones: 274g( 270g a month ago (less than 60g 2 months ago))

And lets not forget the mystic clovers and precursor prices, among other things.

As of now, seeking to get a legendary would need to roughly spend between 1500-2000g. This amount has nearly tripled since the game came out. Furthermore, there are barely any means of acquiring these mats outside the TP.

I would like to know what is being planned to improve the acquisition of all required mats or by finding alternative means of getting a legendary.

Don’t get me wrong. I do ‘NOT’ want an easy mode legendary. All i want is to get it under the same conditions others have.

I would like to see suggestions or word from a dev if possible on when we could be seing a change.(In the next build if possible?)

I was one dungeon away from the monthly. Its not even next month yet, so i was actually waiting to come home from work and do my one dungeon…Now its gone. why?

almost 600 hours into the game, i have decided to pursue the legendary 1h sword: Bolt. During my game time i have earned and spent a lot of gold, which i do regret at some point, but i have almost my full T3 cultural set, another exotic set of full karma skins, and a dedicated MF set. I also have 79% map completion and around 265 pvp tokens.

I would like to get an estimation on how many hours it could take to get Bolt, assuming a game time of 3-5 hours daily. I know there is a lot to do but i am determined to be effective and save all gatherable mats, farm a lot of events, use boosters, etc. I have a list of all the materials and i am coming up with a plan to proceed.

Any information would be appreciated.

If playing with your spouse is really the reason behind your frustration, i don’t see why a (free) server transfer won’t solve your issues. Just sayin…

you dirty little man…

Off course RNG is getting old, you silly bum. It has existed since the creation of the universe!

Don’t forget that it has an internal cooldown, so it won’t activate a single time you drop below 25%

I have farmed a lot at Penitent camp and Shelter(when its not bugged) in Cursed shore with over 130% and i noticed a huge drop rate decrease since the last patch.

I have also farmed at other locations for T6 materials with and without a dedicated MF set and noticed that whatever the loot drop rate is, does not affect Mats. I have farmed in a group and solo and my team mates who didn’t have any MF or very little, had gotten a fraction of what i was getting, over multiple sessions.

In both cases of farming for rares and/or mats, i was hit by the DR within 1-2 hours which seemed to reset within 1-2 hours, regardless. You know when the DR hits from the huge drop of porous bones.

In fewer words, yes a MF set makes a big difference regardless of what kind of drops you are going for. What seems to have changed is the rare item drops, which seems to have been at least halved. Mats seem to drop the same for me.

I don’t have any statistics or anything, this is just an observation over many farming sessions.

Hope that helps

Anfu

I have farmed big time before and after the patch went live with +100-135% MF
Before: at least 4 rares within 2 events, around 6-12 rares within 2-4 hours.
Now: 1-2 rare in 4 hours, if i’m lucky. The occasional extra rare, here and there. I’ve had exotic drops but extremely rarely.

I have noticed an extremely low drop rate since the patch and several of my guildies have confirmed it.

I would definitely want to know whats going on