Guild Wars 2

Ash.5274:

For folks not into running fractals, you could try doing a tour of the chests dotted around the PVE zones – I hit maybe 70% of the ones listed on the wiki, and came away with 114 fragments. It is small numbers though – between 1-4 fragments, so together with jumping puzzles it will still take a few days to gather 500.

Very nice tip.

Zzzzzz, dungeons….

They should add them, and make it so that when you take damage, bits are torn off. Ladies only.

Another anti-Oceanic event, eh. Lovely.

The gear is now rotting in my bank. I would have salvaged it like others did, but it is transmuted with Cultural armour.

And the gear is ruined.

Well done, Anet…well done…

I think obsidian shards were also buyable with baubles, correct?

skullmount.1758:

kokiman.2364:

Delvoire.8930:

Have you played SAB? Continue Coins are quiet easy to get. You also don’t even need them as you can just wait a day and play again without the coin….

Sorry, they removed that grind. You can open chests/dig up baubles only once a day (accountwide).

What a weird change especially with the introduction of the hard mode.

Yeah, I’d really like to know their reason for that change. Maybe so you can’t get as much bauble, so not as much continue coins, which means more pressure to buy the infinite coin?

Also, I really hope the infinite coin isn’t soulbound. They better let us move it to different characters.

It sounds exactly like they did it to sell more gems

I did not want them before, but I think they would be funny now. Mainly because Alex has no sense of perspective and severity.

Also:

http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/206/744/aba.gif

His maths is 6 for armour, 1 for weapon, 5 for accessories. There is no Celestial backpiece.

You mean ‘whose’ choice was that. Well, of course I transmuted them, but it is Anet who are removing a stat with zero compensation. If you transmuted your Berserker gear, then Anet removed the precision and did nothing else, would it be your fault?

As for ‘covering’ the lost MF on Celestial…you do know what EVERYONE means, right? People without Celestial get exactly the same as people with it, so how is that compensating for the lost Celestial MF.

They just need to give refunds for this soon-to-be-bank-rotting set

Dondarrion.2748:

Buying the rare boxes of gear for 30 sprockets + 30 silver is a good return of value if you get one nice rare, or even better if you get an exotic or 2 rares.

Not so sure about that…

They will ruin all celestial gear, and give no chance at a refund.

Terrahero.9358:

Nike.2631:

If MF is being removed because its creating a situation when you’re sacrificing effectiveness for loot (and possibly handicapping your team for personal gain)…

…and ANet is satisfied that Celestial gear is effective enough even without the MF…

Then people wearing it aren’t sacrificing effectiveness for MF and ANet can just LEAVE IT ALONE.

Celestial Gear: No changes required.

No you got your reasoning backwards. If anet removes the mf people will not use this gear in builds where it does not work, just to get the mf boost. Instead it will only be used in builds where it does work. Because if it doesnt give magicfind there is no reward to gimping yourself with gear that isnt compatible with your build.

You mean build, singular. There is one build that can maybe use Celestial gear.

Tom Gore.4035:

Avatara.1042:

Most people vendor them.

That would be pretty dumb now that they’re selling at around 24c apiece.

Yeah, they seem to have shot up in price. You used to get the same money for just vendoring them. Of course people have probably hoarded zillions, plus they are not that useful, so I cannot see them staying high.

Gnat.9405:

BLACKACE.2701:

My story is as hereunder:

I made six baskets of some vegetable from my work-done at certain cost.
One day, the governors take one kind of vegetable from each of my basket without any price.
They said it is the new rule.
Ok, you are the Gods of this tiny world.
Ok, I think I have the freedom begging your kindness to make me-us easy?

Good luck to our Gods.

Thanks for reading.

As far as celestial goes, I think this is a more appropriate analogy:

I make six baskets of vegetables and have some odd fruits also.
The governor takes my odd fruit and leaves me my vegetables.
Vegetables go unchanged.
The Governor then gives me riper fruit.

Giving more effective stats in place of MF is not balanced.

You forgot that the governor gives EVERYONE the riper fruit, and only your vegetables are left rotting, while other vegetables are replaced with fresh ones.

Most people vendor them.

rjnemer.7816:

As long as they drop loads of the new mats, i could care less what else they drop.

So you care?

This topic seems as dead as the New South Wales Origin team.

lordkrall.7241:

Why?
Celestial already have more stats than other items on the same tier, removing a completely useless stat (combat-wise) won’t really change that.

That is the worst logic ever. People acquired the gear with the MF stat. It was part of reason many people acquired the gear. To just remove it with zero compensation and no offer of a refund is horrible.

Oh and by your ‘logic’, they should just remove all MF from everything and be done with it. No compensation, no refunds. I mean, they are not adding anything to combat, right? Just delete the stat and leave the items with two or whatever.

/rollseyes

LordMadman.5812:

Right, but the increase to vit, condition damage, toughness, and healing are also desirable.

Yes and no. Small levels of condition damage tend to add very little and do not encourage you at all to use damaging conditions. Healing scales very poorly, so once again low levels are weak. The vitality and toughness are nice, though, if you are taking hits.

Of course the magic find was the part that many people bought the gear for, or was the tipping point. If it is completely removed and nothing given back (did Anet think the old Celestial gear, which barely anyone uses, was over-budget?), then full refunds need to be offered.

My Celestial gear is transmuted with cultural armour. So how would it becoming account-bound work?

Just refund us.

Nightarch.2943:

I’m glad they’re removing this stat on armour, I hate carrying greedy useless people through dungeons and events. Those currently posting showing negative responses in regard to this matter can actually do more now with this update instead of wasting space. Grow up, accepting change is part of life.

And how does this apply to Celestial gear?

Lunar Sunset.8742:

Avatara.1042:

Wait a sec…where did you find out Tequila Sunrise is changing?

http://www.twitch.tv/guildwars2/b/454437568

About an hour in devs give a sneak peak,

PS, she is a clicker, gets really annoying.

Ah. Cheers.

Wait a sec…where did you find out Tequila Sunrise is changing?

Pretty rubbish way to treat people with Celestial gear, Anet. I hate MF on gear because of how it kills build choice, but zero compensation and no refund kills what little faith I had left in you.

They need to do something with it. Just removing the MF and then giving everyone who uses Celestial the finger would be incredibly weak.

Wanze.8410:

MF on celestial will be gone and not be replaced by any other stat, nor will the other stats on it get a buff. That was confirmed by a dev in the LS forum.

There was no confirmation on the LF forum.

The original ‘Celestial will just lose MF’ was said by the Head of Global Community, in this thread:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Magic-Find-merged-1/page/2

That, however, must be some kind of mistake, because removing the stat with no compensation or chance at a refund is just plain wrong.

Brow.9425:

I’d just like to point out that a player’s first bag slot expansion now costs 23 gold. That’s a lot of work even for a level 80. At level 20, it’s basically pay to play, or playing games with bank alts.

Donari.5237:

Lafiel.9372:

hahaha, you guys really think anet will willfully implement a quality of life change like this

Given all the other quality of life changes they’ve given us after player discussion and requests, and given their goal of making the game fun by removing all the impediments to fun from standard MMO play they can? Yes, I think they might.

Lolzhaitaffy and voting.

I hate magic find on gear. But if it is just removed from Celestial gear with no other changes, then Anet would have failed everyone who got the gear.

Your answer…was not really an answer, btw.

What is happening with Celestial gear? The magic find is the reason many people got the gear, and the reason the gear is used by more than 2 specs. If it just disappears like an earlier Anet guy said, with nothing replacing or compensating for it, that would be very unfair.

On another, related note: what happens to Magic Find armour that has been transmuted with Cultural armour? Will it become account-bound, but only for the correct race? Or are the pieces split?

GSSBlunaspike.4153:

Avatara.1042:

I knew MF was being removed, as I have stated many times. I NEVER said anything to the contrary, and I have no idea why you think I did. Stop making crap up.

What I expected, though, was them to compensate for the removal of an entire stat, which was the tipping point for many people in whether to make the gear. If they are going to go the weak path, and kill what trust people have left, then they need to offer full refunds.

And yes, there are people who had no idea MF was beng removed. Hell, there still are heaps of people who have no idea it is being removed. Anet are incredibly bad at giving information to the casual gamer.

I hate to tell you, but those people were pretty foolish. Celestial gear is crap, and it’s only good for people that specifically build around the celestial gear. Any trait setup that a player might need can be better met by a traditional set that is mixed/matched correctly.

Those people effectively nerfed themselves in order to have a chance at better loot. I thought everyone knew celestial was a noob trap already.

Then it needs to be buffed.

rjnemer.7816:

Bloodstone shards that you can refine into bloodstone bricks (which are used in some, maybe all) ascended weps, will drop from champ loot bags.

100 shards are needed to refine + regeant = 1 brick (i think)

Source: Dev livestream

He knows this…

The answer is: yes. Anet’s bag changes have ALWAYS affected current bags that you have in your inventory, etc.

Belenwyn.8674:

Avatara.1042:

And for the people who do not run dungeons?

These people can run jumping puzzles, kill champions, conquer towers or temples and more.

I was referring to the OP, who wanted the Ascended weapons from dungeons.

A response on what is actually happening with Celestial Gear would be nice.

And for the people who do not run dungeons?

Refund us please. And give us back the items we transmuted onto Celestial gear.

How did Berserkers get a stat boost?

emikochan.8504:

OP should just get the xp retroactively and get to keep the discoveries. Who cares if people get to 500 faster.

Everyone should get it retroactively.

I know the bleed ticks change from Might, so they also probably change from weapon swapping.

ilr.9675:

ForGreatJustice.3452:

SOMETIME LAST WEEK: Ectos did not increase by 10silver.

lol hindsight is so much fun.

Meanwhile I just unloaded a stack of ’em for 28 silver making it exactly 10s more…
And 12 days ago, I was already predicting that Ectos were completely undervalued.

They are 39 silver now. You unloaded prematurely.

ilr.9675:

^Sorry but your completely false claim is completely false.^
Also you’re a TinFoil Hatter for blaming everything on “Evil Manipulators”

Cause I get probably 3-5 yellow drops per invasion

Most obvious exaggeration I’ve ever heard. Maybe you’ll get that many in the first hour with really high MF% boost until D.R. kicks in. Then the rest of the day you get crap unless you’re popping world chests (which no one is anymore).

It’s most definitely the lack of D.E. participation behind it.
I’m not a betting man, but as I just said, I DID bet on this, and it payed off

There is no DR when you travel from zone to zone, and the number of rares dropped has most likely increased due to the invasions and number of people participating. Ectos clearly increased in price due to people hoarding for T7.

Yes, an option to turn it off. I do not want to have to click a zillion times after champion farming. Learn from your zhaitaffy mistake.

Num Nutzo.9056:

i could care less about the exp i wouldn’t of unlocked them if i did and you don’t realize how many weapons i exotic weapons i have unlocked over 100 exotic weapons i crafted for weaponsmith alone to unlock them all thats alot of Mats and gold down the drain if the reset it. i don’t care about the exp for them.

You could care less? So you care about the exp?

~300 MF gives you a lot more greens than lower MF rates.

No mention at all of Celestial gear in the blog…

Terrahero.9358:

Avatara.1042:

But Celestial Gear is harder to get than other gear, and many people will own all the other sets they need.

A full refund should be offered.

I disagree with a full refund. You did get your benefit from this gear for the time being. It hasnt been useless, it has returned value to you.

You’re asking for a free MF boost.

I’d say give the people with Celestial a chance to exchange it for any other prefix. Celestial so useless without magicfind? Exchange it for Rampagers or Berskers or anything else. It will remain soulbound.

And here’s another one. I geared a character for a certain build, that build got nerfed and is pointless to play. Not only am i stuck with a pointless set of gear that is taking of space, i also have to regear that character. Where’s my refund?

Stop comparing Celestial to other prefixes.

Or they could do a weekly cap, instead of daily.

But Celestial Gear is harder to get than other gear, and many people will own all the other sets they need.

A full refund should be offered.