except ive officially taken off the focus for pistol now that traveler runes are available. However im running the same build, minus just changed the focus trait. I can still turn it on for any dungeon that has heavy projectiles and put the focus back on but with feedback im fineYeah, sword/focus & staff with zerker gear and phantasm specced can pretty much take on any pve content. Great for dungeons as well.
trying to learn how to play WVW/PVP with this style. decided to go carrion with traveler runes. im doing OK, but id like to see some combat so I can understand what I should be doing different thanks
I dont even have a set up yet. I only PVE with my engi I decided after hours and hours that im going to make him my new WVW toon. Been using thief and mes forever, decided to go ranger and engi
sorry to make a post on this theres probably one in existence but didnt see it.
Im in full rabid gear, didnt buy trinkets or runes yet and I plan on using p/p or p/s. not sure what runes or sigils I should be using
Im trying to decide if I want perplexity runes or these. really tough choice. My engi just hit 80 ive got full rabid gear on him plan on going p/s. 6 lvl 80s and this is going to be my first condition build smh. What sigils work well? I was thinking agony and battle? really dont know
here to say 2 things.
I agree with the OP ONLY since the Warrior signet buff. With the combination of their damage and high hp regen, with the big health pool, they really do tank better.
With that said, I think somewhere out there someone will come up with a Guardian build that focuses on summon spirit weapons and it will change everything. Ive messed with it on and off and I see potential but im not yet ready. Seriously, its going to happen
just because Guardians “tank” and defend DO NOT THINK they are weak. my Guardian his hard betwee GS/1hs and focus. even hammer hits hard. do not be fooled at all, plus Guardian hits everything around him easily so he wipes mobs out
people like you deserve random sex at bars. thank you
Carrion or Rabid, or a mix of both? I really dont run conditions normally but its time for a change. mostly for wvw obviously, im thinking perplex runes, battle and earth sigils. just not sure on carrion or rabid for armor and trinkets?
understandable. perplexity it is for my engi
I slaughter Lupi with my Zerker/Cavalier Ranger. he attacks so slow you can completely regen full hp by the time he hits you again, plus we have enough evades/vigor/prot that we shouldnt get downed anyway
whats the Engi community thinking about these suckers? I just bought 6 for my P/D thief. Thinking of getting a set for my Ranger and Mesmer too.
I originally purchased them for my Engi since im about to switch to conditions, but I think perplexity is still better for that overall
Hello my sneaky friends!
I tested and recorded the movement speeds with and without travelers runes and signet of shadows. Test was made in LA, with a distance long enough to actually record something and short enough for the combat to not end before the finish line (with the exception of one instance)
here are the results:
out of combat
normal runes + sos 4.37 seconds
normal runes w/o sos 5.46 seconds
traveler runes + sos 4.37 seconds
traveler runes w/o sos 4.37 secondsin combat
normal runes + sos 5.92 seconds
normal runes w/o sos 7.2 seconds*
traveler runes + sos 6.0 seconds
traveler runes w/o sos 6.13 seconds*normal runes w/o sos would have been actually slower, but i ran out of combat before the finish line, but it really doesn’t matter since it’s given to be slower anyway.
The in combat recordings weren’t as easy to perform and record, and in one of them I’m running in a really small angle instead of dead straight. I’d say the 0,21 second difference in instances 1 and 4 is just an error in measurement.
So in conclusion, ladies and jellyspoons, whether in or out of combat, the traveler runes offer a “free” signet of shadows effect. Without the active part that is, but it isn’t that good anyway. Freeing up one utility for anything else is a blessing.
yep got 6 of these suckers. Was gonna get perplexity runes but this will work just fine, ill save perplex for my engi.
Travelers on Carrion. What sigils? Agony and… ? Force? battle? maybe Battle with shortbow or another p/d with earth and force… hmm
From what I noticed, Thieves are getting better at tracking the real Mesmer and that leaves a very bad taste fro the profession. One of the main reason why is because the clone doesn’t carry an off-hand weapon, so this was added stealthily in this patch —-
Guild Wars 2 Wiki Notes
Build: 23,057
Targets can now be called without being in a party.
Clones now show the mesmer’s equipped off-hand.
The monthly achievement has been reset.This might bring them back in the meta…not sure.
I don’t rely on any kind of visual cue or other gimmicks to identify the mesmer. I look at the mesmer that is trying to get away from me, I know that’s the real one LOL
This. I look for which one moves or dodges, or is furthest away is also a big indicator. Besides all that, I tend to prefer shatter mesmers and dodge into the clones then immo the real one for the beating he deserves
I cant believe I never thought of this
actually these runes are ridiculously expensive right now and people are buying the guts out of them. I just bought 6 for 35 gold for my thief for his p/d build. These are going to be HUGE for Mesmers. I gotta get another 6 for him
dont really think this helps s/d, still prefer Lyssa but this will def def def be great for p/d. logging on to purchase these now for thief and engi
With spirits now nerfed, its obvious more than ever WE NEED this pet buff
I’d prefer a pet ‘level’ system, tyvm, with the pet gaining exp as long as he’s in battle with you. The pet has a level cap of 5, each equal to about 2 character levels. As the pet levels up, it gains its own series of ‘traits’ you can turn on, more skills, and more AI for your to have control over. For example, a jaguar could get a trait that allows it to share its stealth with the Ranger, a skill that knocks down an enemy before starting to bite at it 3-4 times which causes bleeding and large damage with each hit, and will give you control over which skill it will use with the F2.
This is also an awesome idea. I have a lot more I want to add and compile all these thoughts. For everyone viewing this, please add something. Even if its a simple, this idea is “DUMB” or “I FEEL THIS WAY” whatever it is just add something. We are a community with similar interest obviously so id like to know how you guys feel so we can make this one thread into something that gets dev attention
Healing spring for the most part. I like Troll Ungent as well, but healing spring takes the cake for the most part. I use sword/axe and GS. Healing spring will allow me GS 3, S 2, A4, A5 all heal me.
And I refuse to let this thread die until a Dev responds. Even if its just a “eh this idea sucks, get back to playing” ill take it. I just want some acknowledgement thakittens at least been seen that players are down for the idea
The Ranger is amazing dont listen to these boards. These boards are for us that want MAXIMUM results from the class. The Ranger, due to its pets, cannot be used to MAXIMUM potential. We are probably sitting at about 75% tbh. With that said, a Ranger at 75% is still kitten mighty. Forget the mix/maxing while leveling up and get your slaughter on. All of our weapon sets are viable and we’re good at range and melee. Just enjoy it
Or give us a few sliders.
Their total value is always 100 (or something) and increasing one slider will make the others decrease.
In-Depth:
Let’s say basic items give 3 stats, fine gives 6 stats… exotic gives 15 stats. The slider’s total value would be increased by 15 for each exotic gear, 12 for each rare, 9 for each masterwork, 6 for each fine and 3 for each basic.Assume that the player has exotic only. 6 armor + 2 weapons + 5 trinkets = 195 extra stat points. If the base stat points is 100, then the pet will have 295 extra stat points.
The player can choose where these stat points will be allocated. Power, Precision, Condition damage, Vitality, Healing Power or Toughness.
Want a zerker pet? Place the ‘Power slider’ all the way to the right, therefore giving 295 extra power to the pet.This is completely isolated from the BM traitline which would be able to boost the pet even more.
EDIT: Another option is to make the BM traitline increase the amount of extra points by 3.3% for each point in the traitline.
This is actually what I had in mind to begin with without going in depth. Thank you for the write up. For the guy that said something about farming for extra items, who cares??? If you love the class wouldnt you want more for it? Thats like a Warrior, they have access to more weapons than every other class to naturally youre going to seek our more weapons to use, compared to an Engi that uses a rifle, pistol and shield. Be serious bro and stop complaining. Not only would it be a good fix, it would give us something extra to do. Its an MMO at the end of the day guy, grind a LITTLE.
nope its not fair enough. If im a zerger ranger, that doesnt mean my bear has to be a bunker. I want my bear to take bullets like tupac (the first time). Give us the OPTION. We have a crap F1, a fault F2… just let my wolf equip some gear. They can even simplify it where the gear just goes by level doesnt have to be exotic or anything. it would be set stats based on items and level, so a white dagger will give + etc etc etc and such. Even just armor and trinkets would be fine, though trinkets could get expensive, then let us just use the jewel? I dont know they can think of something thats what they get paid for. (not to be a kitten anet I love you guys)
I dont even bother using Grenades with my Engi. Theyre already been nerfed, I believe twice. hitting someone with them is horrid unless they are in a group and dont see you coming. I prefer bombs
please? two, maybe three pieces exclusive to pets? I dont care if theres no skins, thats fine (although an Owl with a helmet and a little dagger would be king). Let us bulk up or pets on our own. The games been out a year and its obvious the Pet mechanic is somehow to difficult to change or if its changed theres fear it will be OP, so just let us adjust their stats on our own. If not that, give us 10% more damage if we stow our pet or 5% more when the pet is dead since they always are anyway.
I dont have a character slot available but im going to just take your word for it and have the procedure done. I hate it that I have to pay for the name change AND the sex change. sigh
hate how my male norn swings 1h sword im about to give him the operation. any video anywhere that shows how a norn female swings sword? harder to find than I thought
I hate my male norns attack animation with 1h sword. what does the female attack look like? im thinking of having the.. operation done. I dont have anymore toon slots to check myself… thanks
My Norn Guardian is a male… he was my first 80 and honestly, I just hate his attack animations, mainly the 1H sword. can ANYONE get me a video or anything that shows the female attack animation with sword?? please? I dont have a character slot to try it out. thanks
ive been playing since launch but somehow for whatever reason, ive done fractals maybe twice ever. Finally going to hop into it… which classes are best? also, are the fractal levels account wide or per character? I usually use thief for dungeon but sometimes I break out my mesmer or Guardian. I have everything at 80 except warrior and necro. thanks
Necros mainly, and Condition focused Engis and Warriors made me retire my Mesmer. I dont think Necros are exactly OP, you just need to have so much cond clear just for them for the most part that it weakens you vs all the other classes. In the case of the Mesmer, the cond removal is just TOO weak. I ran a mantra build just for cond removal but my offense was so limited it was even worse than before. sorry for an incoherent post watching UFC while I type
I never use SB with my Ranger. I literally use every weapon with my Ranger EXCEPT the Shortbow
a GOOD condition warrior will own a mesmer 11/10 times.
no.. no no no no…. turrets need Hobo-Tron! or well Hobo-Tron needs turrets… and problem solved… we get mobile turrets, he gets a job, and, as a bonus we get funny dialogue out there in combat
this is the dumbest comment ive ever seen.
Im mad you said it before me.
+10
im with him. I see my Mesmer as a high born, bad kitten ready to kill. Sadly he cant walk into the forest as a Ranger may snipe him. He doesnt go out at night in fear of backstabs. Warriors are currently on steroids so we stay away from the bar. Engis experiment with those condition stacks so the shop, no go. Obviously, we dont do funerals, Necros are there. Pretty much I just leave my Keep to boss around some elementalist and then rush back home
Before I ramble I want to let people know why im creating this thread. Im a long time MMO player, video game player, and fantasy fan. I understand that today, with constant access to the internet and the forums of multiple websites, we can voice our opinions and well, anyone can read them. I think however, that we are not showing the proper respect to the creators of Guild Wars 2. If you are not a fan or the game, just dont like how it is or whatever, thats just fine and hate away. Hate, dislike, voice your opinion like the good internet lords allow you. However, for us “FANS”, we need to calm down.
Board after board, forum after forum, website and link etc… I see fans, people that constantly play this game, or take breaks and come back, complain. Yes, complaining is good at times because it shows our concern and our issues so they can be fixed and addressed, but at the same time we need to also voice our appreciation. GW2 is unlike most MMOs in many regards, which that alone is (somehow!) shockingly hard to do apparently. Even FF14 looks a lot like EQ and WoW (which isnt bad, I was a huge EQ fan).
Point being, lets take the time to tell the devs how much we love this game and the hard work they put into it. Regardless of what many people say and complain about, there is some SERIOUS hard work going on over there. We have complained about balancing issues, PVE issues, WVW issues and so on, but for a game thats about to be 1 year old, its A LOT better than any other MMO I played at the 1 year mark, except MAYBE UItima Online, but that game had so many flaws we just learned to live with them because patches were far and few.
Please take the time to tell the devs what you love about this game and why their work is important to the gaming community.
Now, for the potatoes of my post, I want to speak about a future expansion.
I have read, as have the rest of you, that the devs want to create an expansion and then they dont, that they are doing well enough and everything can be rolled out via living story. Well im going to be the voice here and say this is not a good idea. I ADORE the living story, even though so far it has had little to no effect oh the actual real lore of the game, I still enjoy it. However, for both marketing and survivability purposes an expansion is a requirement. We will pay for it, the fan base is here with pockets open for you devs. We would like to see new classes and weapons, new areas unlocked, increased level cap, all of that. We want it, and we want it bad. with FF14 and ESO coming out, please give us some announcement on this so we have something to hold onto. I know the game is only 1 yr old, and we dont truly need it yet (most people, including myself who has played at launch, doesnt have 8 80s yet) but what we do need is assurance. Just KNOWING what will be coming in the future in regards to race class and weapons, the core content behind MMOs, will keep us waiting. Look at Diablo 3… a game that people love and love to hate… as much as everyone walked away from it, its been pretty much a given everyone will come back for the expansion. I can go on and on but I wont for now, and im not spell checking or editing my post. I probably said things that dont even make sense but im not here to be perfect im here to be a fan. Thanks for reading.
Tyr
awesome thanks. what runes and sigils????
whats a good alt weapon for this? I used pistol dagger back in november-jan and never went back to it until now. Rabid or Carrion? Traits? I searched the boards but I dont see much in P/D except for old builds that im not sure are still viable. also, this is for pve and wvw
Weapon swaps should be the ideal choice for closing gaps. If you wish to ignore the disadvantages of D/D then you better be ok with eating dirt.
Keep a range option or pistol off-hand for gap closers.
this has nothing to do with the post im just replying because your name is artemis entreri lol. Im getting the Jeweled Dagger tattoo soon, prob on my arm. Artemis is my fav character of anything ever, shortly followed by Marcallo Deunnero
as much as everyone wants another MH pistol, what we need is another melee weapon. Mace or Axe preferably, with more control, possibly a stun or an evade. Scepter needs some tweaking as well, but we def need another melee option
forget the engineer for now, lets talk Mesmer. I WISH I could use my mesmer half as good as you. Mes is my fav class, but ive been switching between my thief and engi lately because im just not good as a mesmer in wvw. Seeing you do so well is making my inner mesmer burn
You obviously know nothing about warriors.
-900 hps is unrealistic, even in healing gear.
-50% stun uptime only with Hammer/Mace-Shield -> no mobility, and i mean no
-4k armor… lol and even if you could achieve that number, no damage, no healing.
-‘unparalleled mobility’, not true – good mobility maybe, and only with GS -> fewer stuns and utility
-Highest base hp together with necro, that’s true but not many ways of mitigation,
i.e. vigor only with unpopular traits and only with stances, no protection, regen when traited but useless without healing power.
-‘Massive repeatable burst’ only with GS/Mace-Shield and zerker stats
-> no survivability, very few disables, few support possibilities.To me that sounds more like a kitten thief who didn’t bring stunbreaks to
a stun fight.If traited and equiped properly the warrior can apply regen on banners,
together with healing gear and Hammer/Shield-Mace he can set up
easy kills for the thief, but is shut down completely by aoe cond spam
or blinds. (both weapons are extremely slow)so you want to have everything? a warriror doesn’t need that stuff. by the way tried it out, the first post you responded to here was very achievable (in pve and wvw).
Had you followed the conversation, then you would have known that my point was, you can’t have everything and even if the armor rating and healing is
within reach, you will do laughable damage.I am also speaking from an spvp standpoint but since
conditions like blind and aegis work the same in wvw as well as
‘real’ pvp i’m going to assume that they will screw you over in both
playtypes regardless.Also
As a thief if you can not beat it disengage. There are some active discussions on this in the warrior forums. We should likely leave it there don’t you think?
you are right, that is a tad offtopc, i just find it funny how i have yet to lose
against such a warrior with my thief. That’s also the main reason i got
a bit overdefensive in my other posts; because it is easily doable,
i did it quit a lot myself in the past couple of days.btt: i think anything that bunkers and dishes out conditions
to soak up the damage while the thief is in stealth will synergize really well.
An engineer should work well or a necro.
im not one to poke at people, but if you havent lost to one of these warriors at all then you simply havent fought any. And 900s healing plus good offense is completely possible by warriors. Theres 2 looooong posts on the warrior forums about this. Their new possible builds are kittened, and while theyre not exactly OP to the point that theyre unbeatable, there is simply no hard counter for them. Lets not even get into the bunker bleed warrior sword/shield build that simply wont die. Its like a spirit ranger of steroids and im happy more people dont use it
Every classes forum sits and cries about their class except the Guardians. Their crying is at a minimum. Ranger can solo PVE better than most of the classes except guard and warrior. In WVW we work well in groups due to our healing/condition removal and sustained support DPS. We are good are roaming because we’re hard to kill and vary in our methods. in PVP we are one of the top classes, only outdone possibly by a great thief and good necros. We are one of the few classes that isnt completely screwed by conditions, so fighting engis and necros isnt a pain in the kitten. We are never going to be top tier in damage, unless you can master using birds/cats and timing your Mauls and sword 1 combos, but we dont even need to go into that. Basically we dont have an I WIN button like some other classes do, but we’re in a much better spot than mesmers and eles are currently. Also, if you look at the boards and pvp matches, we are one of the few classes that arent crying about PVPing the new Warrior meta. we have enough evades AND possible tankiness (depends on build) to fight them right back. I main Mesmer/Thief and ill tell you Cond/Tank warriors and Stunlock Warriors are a complete nightmare for them. (beatable with thief, but forced to use daggers as warriors regen more hp than a s/d thief build can muster).
Im sorry but theres simply no love for this weapon. Every other GS weapon for other classes are awesome, many people use the GS as their main like guardian, war or mes. They all have powerful skills. We have swoop and maul as our best and they really arent that spectacular. Id much rather spawn some dude thats gonna fight for me and do INSANE damage, Id much rather do 100b that hits for 3 times the dmg of maul, and Id much rather spin around in huge AOE immbolizing my enemies. but no, I have to land mauls, mauls that take a good about of time to hit the ground and give me vuln. Nice vuln there hmm what do I follow that up with? Oh some weak gs 1 chain? Some weak swoop? Some non-existant dmg super short-range hilt bash? I guess ill stop for a second before I throw my sword at them. When I switch to gs they chain all the moves in 4 seconds and then for the next 6 I am are slowly swinging around doing pitful 400 dmgs and lucky to get some evades in while my opponent is enjoying the nice breeze I am providing.
Two things. First, the GS is a defensive weapon for the Ranger. It helps you survive while your other weapon does damage. Its an amazing weapon. Secondly, Mesmer SUCKS with the GS especially in wvw/pvp. Its a horrible weapon. The Rangers GS is like the Mesmer Staff, its for defense and set ups. not disrespecting your skill, youre just not using the weapon right at all
Mesmer is the worst class to level (I havent tried necro yet) and annoying for casual PVE. Its not a BAD PVE class at all, but you actually have to use your utilties and stuff against mobs, where a guardian ranger and warrior can march through world maps like its nothing
This is ALMOST as depressing as the Mesmer board. thats like suicide hotline over there smh
im a product of the old Da Phoenix PTV build. Took a lay off and came back 2 months ago using my mesmer and guard, but I miss my ele. What kinda builds/stats are people using now? I searched the boards but for the most part I just keep seeing posts saying we suck which I dont think is the case
I also changed to 20/20/0/0/30 recently. I used to have points in the vit trait line… just realized this now