Mantras are underused imo and im trying to change that. I always run Mantra of Pain for the extra spike damage during combos and when I back off. Love it! Anyway, I change my traits often and went back to (forgot the names here, too tired) the trait that heals when charging a mantra, and the 3x uses of mantras. Ran in WVW last night and another fellow happened to be using the same set up and we rolled over so many people before I was murdered via falling death…. kitten engis….
Sorry for my rambling, but im looking to build a powerful mantra/shatter or phantasm build, either way. For PVE I use sword/focus with GS and WVW im using Sword/Sword with GS (pvp also, but I dont pvp with my mesmer much yet).
Im currently running 30/10/0/30/0. I dont have any complaints about it so far, but im not as good a Mesmer player as I am Thief or Ranger so im wondering if anyone else out there has or will give something like this a shot. kk im going to knock out, sorry for the horrible grammar and thanks
I stopped playing the past 3 months due to RL stuff and I just came back a few days ago, id like to make some comments.
First, that gif is the best thing since I got my first blo.. you get what I mean.
More importantly, before I stopped playing I made my Mesmer my main. Spent a lot of time getting Tier 3 armor for him and such. First thing I did when I signed on was pick up my mesmer but he just felt WEIRD. I kept getting my butt kicked in both PVE and WVW. What exactly did they change? ive been using my thief again because of that beating
so ive been gone a few months, real life has claimed my soul. Been playing the past few days on my Thief Ranger and Guard. Noticed a lot of Eles are using scepters now in both PVE and WVW (havent done pvp lately). Last time I played I ONLY saw daggers, with a random staff. What changed? Id love to use a scepter!
Thief 30 30 10. what weapons?
I havent touched my thief is months…. but… just maybe..
no the build is genius, the scholar runes were just expensive and i wish there was a way I could completely remove them to use them elsewhere…. hrmm
also im using scholar runes. really dont feel like getting rid of them ugh
my gear is def different i believe but ill have to take a gander. I think im using mostly berserkers with a few PTV mixed in. im going to give this a try
are you real? perhaps i should go to church to locate where the rest of your angel friends are. thanks man
im more of a solo roamer. id like to roam with my mes or ranger. I tried Guardian but I cant 1 v 1 with one at all I always lose. My old guild all went to a bigger guild so I dont even have one anymore lol
anyone else? I would love it
just got beat savagely with my Mesmer in WvW.
Thief was my main, but Mes and Ranger are my favorite classes for the past 6 months. I think (I dont even remember honestly) im using a mix of Berserker and PTV gear. Anyone have a good suggestion of a WvW/PVP build? I never really used my Ranger for WvW and I want too as im tired of thief and im just unsure with my Mes. Also, I love the GS but im willing to use any weapon combination
Just went into WvW and people took turns curb stomping me. I killed 3 people 1 on 1 and thought I still had it, but I guess people started to try after that and the whoopings wouldnt stop.
I dont even remember what my WvW build is, but I def think I may need a new one. Any suggestions? Preferably something with Mantra of Pain, but not limitied to that. Thanks
great. figures right? Engi and Necro im eventually going to play I just never got around to it
Just went into WvW and people took turns kicking my asstroturf. 3 months really took my skills away smh.
So I have an 80 Mesmer, Thief, Ele, Guard and Ranger. I used to only WvW with my thief, but ive become more favorable to my Ranger and Mesmer, but really ill accept any advice.
What are some good WvW builds for any of these classes and some tips set ups (cheats are welcome as long as I win, im desperate! jk).
Any help is welcome thank you
WOW…
Signets are becoming REALLY powerful. Even op with all these changes they are receiving.
The passives on the signets since this patch are very beneficial and the actives are very good as well. 8% crit chance from 1 signet alone is crazy good. The actives also pretty much cover all the bases that you generally need in a build (stability, conditions wipe, full adrenaline, non-blockable attacks, and of course the buffs from Signet of Rage). Only thing missing is a get out of jail free utility. But only 1…maybe 2 utilities do that (Endure Pain..Fear Me). And Endure Pain can be traited.
Not to mention….the cooldowns on signets are also very reasonable untraited and even better when traited. 48sec max cooldown when traited means you will have your utilities ready for nearly every encounter.
With dolyak signet eventually getting a stun-breaker an healing signet getting a better passive heal, signets are going to becoming the go-to utilities for any warrior that wants to have it all (so to speak).
To put things into context, you can have ~27% crit chance by taking the two signet traits and slotting signet of fury. This is WITHOUT any crit in your gear. If you use SoR from that setup, you will have ~45% crit chance. That’s a lot without any crit gear. Add in food, maintenance oils and stackables (sigils, runes) and you can easily have around 60-70% crit chance with non-crit based armor sets (PVT, Clerics, etc.)
Signets might not work that well in Beserker gear cuz of the kill quick die fast nature of it, but in PVT or tankier sets, they will become godlike. Maybe thats the intention tho.
Here is my warrior in all PVT everything with signets…
Haha, just found this funny…that Caim guy next to you is my guildmate I run everything with and I was next to him but you have your inventory screen blocking me. GW2 celebs wooo
I cant stand it either, which is what makes me wonder why I see so many mesmers in pve and wvw with a GS. I dropped GS for scepter/pistol awhile back… and ive made my mesmer to 80 twice. (dont ask, stupidity)
personally I dont mind the speed because I usually dont finish the chain, (in PVE) as I use mantra of pain during the attacks and usually charge it after the 3rd, and then release another pistol phanasm. I dunno it works amazing for me im shocked no one else uses it. I actually had a guy run up to me while killing SB last night and asked why I use it. strange
I must be playing this game wrong. For PVE ive been using Scepter/Pistol and Sword/Focus. in WVW I usually use scepter or sword/pistol and Staff. For WvW, I can understand that the scepter will suck. However for PVE I dont see how the GS is better than Scepter/Pistol. Scepter 1 makes clones, even though its slow. 2 is a strong block, 3 is very strong. the confusion stack on 3 is just a bonus really, the actually attack is powerful. With offhand pistol it works perfectly. Maybe im missing something and should be rocking a GS
Hi,
here come’s an advice from a competitive player : do not start a warrior , or delete it…
I bought gw2 cuz I thought it was a competitive game and skill based , and I’ve been creating warriors in every mmo i played , but here its just a big disapointmenthere’s whats a warrior : OP in PvE , by far the weakest class in PvP , the total opposite of the class I wanted in the begining, I’ve created a warrior and now I’m regreating it
the only viable builds I see so far (when I see a warrior , cuz nowdays good luck finding even one in S/Tpvp) are GS/LB or GS/AxeShield
Let’s hope April’s patch bring a good balance and some love to warriors cuz I don’t feel like playing Mesmer or D/D ele just cuz they are by far the strongest class in SPvP
I wouldnt say Mesmer is by far. Ele I agree, but Mesmer no. They are great, and have a lot of viable builds, but theyre on the same ground as Guardians and ive seen many an Engi curbstomp mes and guards lately
with no sarcasm involved, come back to the warrior in a few months if you want to use one for pvp. Supposedly they are getting buffed, because they are lacking. They pack a ton of power, but the power they have are on attacks they dont serve well for pvp/wvw. If you want a new class for pvp, guard and mes will never let you down. Ele is ufn, but it feels kind of OP sometimes. Engineer is solid fun and has a high learning curve. Necro I cant speak on, and Ranger is my personal favorite at the moment. It feels most like the Thief, and isnt overly popular (yet) but more and more strong builds are coming to light and theyre also getting buffed. Mind you, for melee their defensive weapon is a GS and power/cond weapon is sword/dag. has 3 evades in it. Auto attack on sword is awkward but great, and GS is just a beast. I know you said you dont like GS but for Ranger is super fun. Cheers
longbow should do more damage from higher plains of elevation. I dont know how much it would help honestly as theres no way to test it, but it would def create some interesting scenarios in both pvp and wvw
Ill take a little gander shortly thanks. I really enjoy the Guardian, I just never got into him if that makes any sense. I have 5 80s, he was my first to level and he was the last one to receive gear and such. Ill look it up thanks again
@ Sebrent… I enjoy most of your posts, but if you think damage isnt the main fix for the axe, im not really sure what to think. I enjoy the Axe and ive been using it MH for a long time, but without 25 stacks of might or a lot of crit damage, its been underwhelming. I think it works perfectly with how the Ranger is built, its just ultimately weak. Ive tried it with a condition build as it was fun for awhile but overall even less effective. I guess ill have to reevaluate it
… who knows?
Ill make this short because im half asleep sorry.
My guardian hits hard and I like it. Ive been using GS/Staff forever now, forgot how the other weapons even work… Guard was my first lvl 80 and I dropped him long ago, just now picking him back up.
Anyway long story short, my armor and weapons are full berserker, my trinkets are orbs that give Power Tough Healing. My trinkets are power tough healing I believe, with a karka shell, and berserk amulet. Now I like how things are going for the most part, but I have 12k hp and I feel its too low, and im still taking a lil too much damage I think.
So, weapon suggestions/ build set ups/ call me names/ whatever you want just help me please. Thanks and sorry for typos
you know, I see a lot of people make Rangers and say “im going to use SB/LB and ownnnn” but really… a Ranger with SB/LB is just straight worse than a thief with their SB. They do more damage with AA, have the best blast finisher that does crazy damage and one of the best, if not the best evasive attack.
Back on topic, I agree with you 100 percent. No reason for my axe to hit as pathetic as it does. The only time ive ever done real damage with it was when Iwas power/prec/cond mostly, and had torch in the other hand. Even that though, I was using the torch just to combo with the axe and it still wasnt worth it. Like I said I love how the Axe works I just wish the damage was higher
Mesmer and Guardian are the most “complete classes”. Mesmer is fun, all of the weapons in PVE (except the torch) serve a purpose and can work with many different builds which is awesome. PVP and WVW Torch is great too. You can go tanky, support, offensive, pure glass power house… Mes can do it all without losing its play style. With that said, Mesmers dont really get that powerful until levels 40-60. Also, even at lvl 80, we arent as good at PVE as the other classes Solo. In groups, we shine and shine hard. Now as for Ele… its a mixed bag. D/D Ele is the viable way to get with really very little variation to the trait line if you want to play at maximum effectiveness. Basically, you need 30 water and 30 arcane, but some people (few) dont do this. With that said, Ele is also hard to level in the beginning. Staff is good for support damage ingroups, scepter is unbelievably safe. Doesnt sound too good right? Well, when you hit the higher levels with the ele and get your gear right, the D/D build is kitten near unstoppable. In PVP/WVW/PVE its just unrealistic. It is beatable, but its war. in PVE you can solo most champions without needless kiting, just straight up aoe and war. Ele is also the fastest class, except maybe a thief. Mesmer is the slowest. Ele gets my vote as the “Best” class, though its not my fav anymore, I truly like all the classes equally, but the Ranger has been stealing my heart lately. Necros.. well, I dont like the necro, but if you go power/tough/vit at high levels they can tank better than warriors. Cheers and sry for typos
hit hard enough- sry tired and in typo mode
Thats really it. I enjoy it everything about it for MH, it just doesnt just hard enough. OH if 5 had a reduced cool down it would be good kittennit… or atleast some movement. KK thanks, done complaining now
I just want to be able to put armor/trinket/ specialzed item to make my pet glow and hit harder/have more defense. I dont care if my moa is dressed in a suit, as long as the suit is shiny and has “I can take an kitten whippin” written all over it im good
Due to the word —--> Ranger?
Masters of Long Range Combat?Its a typo dude. It should be called Beastmaster!
Except that’s not what it means in the slighest. Common misconception.
Ranger=/= ranged combat, even though it shares the letters. Ranger means ranging the land, etc.
Example: Aragorn is a ranger of numenor. He does not specialize in ranged combat because he is a ranger, he is a ranger because he ranges.
Legolas on the other hand, may or may not be a ranger, but it is not because he specializes in ranged combat.
That might be true if Anet didnt describe the ranger class as “Unparalleled archers, rangers are capable of bringing down foes from a distance with their bows.”
Rangers in Dungeons and Dragons (basically what everything borrows from) are masters from range. They are also up close fighters that can compete with anyone head to head but wear lighter armor. The difference between them and fighters is usually just their ranged ability, health, and armor. Drizzt Do’Urden can own anyone in hand to hand combat and hes a Ranger.
Anet devs have a hard on for warriors and thieves and hate rangers, that’s why. Next question.
That must be why warriors and thieves are one of the best profs in tPvP, oh wait….
lol. Well, Thieves are still good in pvp, its just theyre extremely difficult to use at high level. They work ,but for all the effort youre better off using a different class…. for the most part anyway
Ranger can DPS just fine especially in melee when traited and built right. We are the simplest class to use from ranger and probably the hardest in melee, but very effective. They didnt lie when they said all classes can be played the same, it still makes them different though.
I had a serious problem with mesmers no matter what class I used. My ele could SOMETIMES whoop one out but even when I downed them they would damage me and I couldnt finish them most of the time before someone came to help. Now that ive played mesmer and see how truly powerful it is, I also understand how it works. Just like the D/D ele, the Mes needs certain set ups and ranged to take care of business. If its a shatter ele your best bet is to let them come at you with everything youve got and play the block/evade card. Once theyve mind wrecked, you can get on them because their main offensive weapon is gone. Scepter/Staff eles are harder to deal with but the same rules apply, learn how to play mes and youll learn how to kill them. Strangely I find them easy to kill with my thief now; I can scorpion wire the real one easily and beat him down before he can get away
Basically, SB is just good as a backup weapon imo. ive been running with GS Axe/Horn and switching to GS Sword/Horn. Block, Evades, and almost permanent Fury are just too hard to ignore. SB is good and all but like the LB its just situational imo.
doesnt 1h sword out damage GS though?
GS offers evade every third attack, which is amazing. Also, our block while moving is amazing. The amount of nonsense ive blocked with good timing in frac and arah to save my party from being downed is hilarious. also, 1h sword is stronger per hit, but it actually doesnt do as much damage. GS 2 hits like a truck and GS 3 is a leap finisher which is great.
You are misrepresenting your damage with this build a bit, it is actually miserably low damage even with dagger aa.
Your crit chance is so low why would you mention what ds1 will crit for when it will virtually never happen in practice.
because casting Lich autobumps your crit to roughly 50% chance to hit, and you can use that to rampage.
ownage
(Although any Ranger fight’s technically a 2v1, due to the Pet’s % of class DPS)
Any person with a modest amount of field awareness can avoid the majority of a pet’s damage, and can most certainly avoid its key skills, as most high damage/CC pet abilities are extremely obviously telegraphed; calling a fight against a ranger 2v1 is just disingenuous.
agreed, to an extent. Ranger pet abilities worth using are the defensive ones like regeneration and protection from the sylvari hound thats name is escaping me at the moment and the moa. Completely off topic, I still think the Ranger is the untapped resource of GW2. Eventually someone is going to come up with a build/weapon set up/playstyle that will own people. Its coming.
No. I only have 100+ hours with mesmer compared to 300-500 with guardian ele thief and 200 with ranger, but no.
Ill try to keep this explanation as short as I can…
Mesmers from the outside look overpowered because yes, we do excel at ALMOST everything. We can have super burst, kite with the best of them, invis, melee etc. We work well in Dungeons, pvp, and wvw. Solo, we can 1v1 any class/playstyle and win. Our weaknesses are minimal and our strengths are many. That sounds overpowered, but it isnt.
There are few things that the Mes is BEST at. We cannot remove conditions and heal at the speed of an ele. Their movement, healing, and aoe make them ridiculous (but possible) to counter, not to mention even without many points in power/crit they have good to decent damage due to being able to stack might in seconds. d/d ele is the CLOSEST to overpowered there is, but even they arent overpowered.
As for warriors, its true they are lacking in pvp/wvw. Why? because they are built to KILL via warfare. Mesmers are duelest, we excel at 1 on 1 combat. However, when you group up, warriors can murder with great proficiency. Warriors dont want to accept a backseat support damage role, but just like rangers, in groups they are extremely dangerous. 1v1 they dont bring much to the table for the most part (save mace/axe/shield warriors, sometimes a good one will shock you). But isnt that fair? Not every class is good in the sameway. Different groups together, especially in pvp/wvw, will bring out the strengths of classes. A lot of people say the Ranger isnt good for wvw/pvp but when I use my ranger with any good tank class I beast on people (no pun intended).
Im rambling now sorry for to close this case, no. We arent overpowered, but we are extremely well balanced and one of the few classes that has many different viable weapon sets.
hmm all your playstyles sound similar, just minor tweaks. gotta fiddle around with this
ive been playing a glass cannon shortbow/GS Ranger forever and I rarely die in Arah or CoE (main dungeons I run). obv 5 zerk warriors are going to kill things faster than 5 zerk rangers. 5 zerk rangers will most likely complete the dungeon just as fast because they can kite and not die. Warriors are built for dungeon crawling, its what they do. With that said, I still like the ranger tons more than the warrior
you guys helped me a lot btw thanks so much
yes sorry im half asleep, I did mean inspiration. Thanks again
by the way ive played with, and against mesmers forever… but now that im actually using one I truly see the depth
thanks! So far it sounds good, except on illusion IV X doesnt sound right to me… I dont think thats what id use. Well ill give X a shot since now ill try mantras but I think id prefer III over IV
looking to use Sword/Focus or Sword/Sword and GS (if viable) for PVE. Searched the boards and saw some stuff but months old and things have changed possibly no idea im new to mesmer. build advice please… thanks
Actually Elementalist was my first character, and I leveled him to level 30 and gave up on him. (this was at launch time) leveled a guardian to 80, and went back to my ele when I heard of the thors hammer build. Basically, its similar to what youre stating. I leveled from 30 or so to 80 and did dungeons with no food and crap armor/trinkets and did rather well. It does work, im curious to how it works now that im a much better player and better geared
Warriors hit for high damage but they do not deal enough to ever kill a guardian. You can negate all their bursts easily and your sustained is just as good as theirs. Just stay on them and trade hits and they will drop before you.
A thief can never kill a guardian. It’s impossible. You can negate their burst easily and it’s crap anyway, and their sustained is virtually non-existent. You are hitting them harder than they are hitting you and they drop in a tenth of the time, if not less. Don’t forget that you can still hit them while they are stealthed, it just doesn’t target. Just switch to your greatsword and when they disappear, use WW or Binding Blades (or just your auto) and pummel them to death. The only hard thing about the guardian vs. thief fight is ensuring that they don’t manage to escape and cheat you out of the kill when they’re losing. Having a scepter or signets helps for this.
The important thing is to just stay on your target and don’t let them run away. Guardians have super high melee damage so you will never lose a close range 1v1 brawl.
almost fell out of my chair reading this. Thief can never kill a guardian?? Guardians do well against burst d/d thieves, but sword thieves, SB thieves, PD thieves all stand a very good chance against eating guardians. Sword thieves can immo and rock you for 10-25k in a single combo. 2 for immo, mug, auto attack. if they use sword/dagger they will also throw an invis there, hit you with daze, track your evade and 2 you again for another immo. Yes, Thieves can kill Guardians and quite easily usually, dont think they all use daggers