Guild Wars 2

I just want to go ahead and apologize before hand, this is going to be a very lame match for all of us.

Whelp everyone else is smack talking so allow me to channel my inner Sinesters:

HAHAHAHHAHAHA You guys suck so much I came to SM took it you guys ran hard cuz scared so bad HAHAHAHhA watch you go tookloot bags big bags so big that it had your courige in it hahahaha you wuss kittening trebs gotlucky kittenaineng ful of nubz HoD #1 HoD #1 HoD#1 KAIN useto be good now just kitten LOLLOLOL cantevenfight 50ofusatonce SobAD SOhuhuehuehuheuhEUhuehuEEhjuhe

Remember kids, when kitten talking you must ask yourself. What would Sinesters say?

WWSS?

Mooncow.6847:

Takes 10 VLK to kill a Mooncow, only takes 1 Mooncow to take a fully upgraded keep

Relax cowpie, that was only 8 VLK, the other two just came to look at the stache.

What is going on here?!

Fishbones.6914:

im not fat!!! and VLK is ugly!

YOUR MOM!

^ FC and Kaineng just kick back, put up your legs and relax. HoD will wipe itself for you guys.

Ynot.8397:

The drama in this thread is lovely. I need to hear more about how numbers do or don’t matter. It isn’t like we see this same discussion in every other thread. I’m serious, keep going.

Also vlk worst guild NA. Come at me bros. <3 the Yarr necro who can’t ever find you.

Yeah those guys in that guild smell like a retirement home. Buncha old nubs.

Where you at brah?! Bring Vitamin with you. And Pinky, I miss his thiefyness.

A lot of whining going on in here.
How about dem cowboys?

I will find you Vitamin, and I will put you in combat before you WP out.

Mwhahahahhahaha

Look idk what you guys are all angry about, we just wanted to use your merchant.

Also, we thought we saw Vitamin in your Bay, had to take it. I’m sure you guys understand.

orphanMosquito.5837:

Solstice.1097:

Mooncow.6847:

Bllade.1029:

haha all the FC are going “No way man HoD totally outnumbers.”

It’s all a matter of perspective

Yeah guys you’re not outnumbered, you’re just looking at this from the wrong perspective

wait so on reset did you queue all 4 maps purely with skill then? teach me your ways!

HoD does have more #s but it’s not a huge gap over FC. besides reset night, since then it appears only to be about 10-20% more than us. Kaineng are the ones who are outnumbered – kudos to all the KN who stuck around keep up the fight!

Wow they queued all 4? Pretty sure FC has never had that happen. I’m fine with being the underdog and I am fine with being outnumbered. But pretending like your glorious and original commanding ideas like “spreading out” and “each guild defends a borderland” has got you there is a laugh. How quickly you forget your last weeks score young one. Where was this deep and insightful perspective last week for HoD?

I think what you really hinted at is the “quality” of our players is not as good as yours? That’s so racist

No, what i’m hinting at is you can’t be everywhere at once.

haha all the FC are going “No way man HoD totally outnumbers.”

It’s all a matter of perspective, but i’ll tell you right now you guys think you lack numbers because all of your pugs are blobbed up on a commander tag somewhere, transferring between maps in a huge mass.

Take EB out of the picture, because we all know that’s just a pug’s playground for SM.

I’m talking about in the borderlands. In our TS, multiple commanders communicate and over the entire weekend one borderland would be relatively calm, minus a few havoc groups messin’ with our towers.

And then BOOM huge FC zerg out of no where. A massive pug zerg at that.

I’m not denying that HoD has more fair weathers than you guys, believe me. What i’m saying is, our numbers are actually quite similar just spread out differently.

During prime time its a pretty competitive match; and a lot of fun. There was a time when FC would get absolutely run over, not anymore and it’s a pleasant surprise.

Vitamin; I’m coming for you.

I tell you what between HoD and FC’s numbers were pretty similar.

Main difference between HoD and FC is that HoD is usually more spread out, using multiple medium sized guilds across 3 borderlands. (Unless EB, that’s always a cluster !@#$ regardless.)

FC usually runs in one or two massive groups moving amongst all four maps, most likely due to every fair weather on the planet gettin’ all giddy about these new WvW achievement points and chests.

Total numbers overall, yeah i’d say HoD may have more people. But I wouldn’t say we vastly outnumber FC overall. I’d say we just spread our peanut butter much differently.

Kaineng, idk what to tell you guys, crappy hand you’ve been dealt.

Narsil.6579:

Solstice.1097:

KN is too kitten to hit HoD ironically if they would this match would be close. Week 6 HoD/FC/SF is the real championship match.

This would have been way more interesting. No one from any server will stray from the zerg, if i catch a HoD or KN player wander a bit from his zerg, he wps or runs at full speed. This match is boring, Kn is a kitten who won’t defend any of its stuff or EB for that matter. HoD is dominating Kn and taking its stuff, while Kn comes to our Bl instead of taking care of their own stuff. Atleast SF would have given HoD a fair fight. Lets not forget that SF would turn on us for PPT though lol.

Welcome to Leagues, where fair weathers hump the legs of the all mighty blue diamond, and roam groups stop roaming because no one else is roaming because they get run over by the people who use to roam that aren’t roaming but blobbing.

Combination of both, i’m sure.

A few optimistic HoD heroes believe they want silver league, but these are the same guys who only show up once in a blue moon. And being spawn camped for 7 weeks straight doesn’t sound like a whole lot of fun.

No one wants that bottom spot in Silver league, not anyone who only plays this game for WvW anyways. People think they do, but they really don’t.

My forecast: Bottom Gold, Silver and bronze league servers will have a massive exodus of most of their WvW population. By wvw population I mean the guilds that dedicate themselves to WvW, not the karka farmers who come in when fighting is easy and karma trains are abundant. (Everyone can relate to that).

Chances are top of league servers will experience an influx of people, and in the end it may actually end up balancing itself out because of this, or people constantly transfer.

But Bllades! If they do that, they won’t reap the rewards!

Lol, because a Dolyak finisher and some extra chests are going to be enough incentive to stay put.

Hopefully ArenaNet will physically take a look at each server after this first season and literally hand pick certain servers to participate in certain brackets. Much more competitive and fair brackets.

We’ll see.

Mercabre.7123:

RazGerb.6173:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XT1W1y_vUv8

Gotta Love VLK
(at 5:30)

Hahaha, who led everyone into that? Box of Shame.

raises hand Yours truly, we died a valiant death!

CrazyCanuck.4265:

JahRo.6432:

RazGerb.6173:

Advice.
HoD instead of sending your 30+ VLK full of killshot warriors, try taking back all your keeps instead of just trolling in Eternal, with those numbers you guys could be doing alot more but instead they just run around laughing at our bodies spamming killshot.

This is what happens when HoD is forced to tank in WvW. Did you see yourself in this? IF so, you made good target practice!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-We2bnvbvYQ

This is probably the highest kill potential I’ve ever seen from VLK. Though I have to ask, did you actually kill any groups you didn’t outnumber 3:1? Or was the entire night spent portal bombing 1-2 people at a time and running from everything else.

We’re coming for you CrazyCanuck. This one is for you.

RazGerb.6173:

instead they just run around laughing at our bodies spamming killshot.

Dear Ebay, your mother was a quaggan, and your father smelled of omnom berries.

I will be hiding in any structure we own, but which one? You’ll never find me. Better start flipping all of our stuff. Until then, I fart in your general direction!

- The guy who doesn’t want to be in silver league

I feel bad for you Ebay, because as you guys have probably experienced it’s going to be an absolute ghost town out there.

Kaineng and HoD aren’t even gonna show their faces in there in fear of getting put into silver league.

Kaineng you guys better lose harder, or go ahead and begin looking for a server to transfer to.

Hate to say it, but that’s what’s gonna happen.

Also, I do believe transfers are discounted until the beginning of league. I could be wrong, someone correct me if I am.

I have a feeling, Anet did this on purpose to remove all the low pop WvW servers, and consolidate them all into the higher ones. While making revenue off of it.

Just a hunch.

Just wanted to thank all the DR and Kaineng who participated in that video ^

Got a huge laugh out of it, hopefully you guys did too.

Gyuforce.8291:

After reading this thread it seems like its roaming heaven in this match up! I may have to consider transferring due to the zergy nature FC has become >.< I need good fights not stupid blob vs blobs.

Hate to kitten on your parade, but as this new tournament season rolls out. There’s going to be a lot less roaming, and a lot more blobbing than ever before.

You might as well stay where you are.

Wanderer.3248:

TCDJ.5378:

Wanderer.3248:

Kain wipes whenever they encounter half their numbers.

Good thing they have more than the other two servers put together. They do OK if they all run around in one big blob.

Seriously, some of your wipes have been the most fail-tastic I have ever seen in Guild Wars. Ever.

Because why keep things civil if we can bash and generalize another server, right?

You were all in one Zerg. You all did the same thing. It’s hard not to generalise when you all act like clones.

The only time I saw Kain who weren’t in the Zerg, they appeared to be lost up levels trying desperately to keep up with the Zerg.

Dude you’re talking a lot of trash for absolutely no reason.

Why?

Kaineng are you guys tanking?

All those fights in ET BL tonight were a hell of a lot of fun. Great job holding on to your east keep.

Ostricheggs.3742:

http://www.twitch.tv/ostricheggs/c/3023218

One of the funner moments of the match this week

Coming from HoD, that was embarassing to watch.

Great job though. Looked like fun

kurath.9406:

I don’t go into EB too often but every time but once I have this week I’ve gotten lag dropped within 5 minutes. That time I lasted about half an hour with stuttering 10 second spikes the whole time.

We haven’t had AR for a while but it is nice to see them rebounding from where they were. A couple guilds I don’t recall from last time have been making an impact and a couple sPvP groups that I’d not seen in WvW before have surfaced. Seems you guys still have a ways to go but the progress is there.

While we’ve seen a bit of ET recently, it hasn’t been without a dominating force hanging over our heads (IoJ/KN) so this is a little different. ET as a whole seems much more organized especially defensively. Their BL is no longer just a bunch of paper towers waiting to be taken – they’ve got upgrades and frequently ready siege and I frequently see camps with upgraded supply output and defenders reacting quickly. I think they’re doing the best organization wise of any server in this match up by far but I’ve seen a lot of inexperienced players who aren’t used to the new order and the coverage still is spotty.

Hopefully with a couple more weeks of practice ET will be competitive in the bronze league. If so, I think bronze might be the most balanced league of the three.

Agreed fully. ET may actually be competitive with HoD now. Looking forward to it, I like ET as a server.

Lets have some fun!

HeNnAz.8913:

Bllade.1029:

[Zero] if you’d like an organized GvG or small man fight, or heck even some duels, we’d [VLK] be happy to oblige. I think that would provide some good practice as well as a much more even playing field.

I promise we won’t run!

I am going to have to politely refuse this offer on two counts
1. We’re in no way a competitive/GvG guild.
2. Regardless of who wins there will be kitten talking.

I still hope to see you on the field of battle enjoy your day!

Np, I understand.

[Zero] if you’d like an organized GvG or small man fight, or heck even some duels, we’d [VLK] be happy to oblige. I think that would provide some good practice as well as a much more even playing field.

I promise we won’t run!

This is quite a hostile match-up thread. I’m sorry ET and AR you guys drew the short straw this week, I understand that feeling.

If anyone wants to organize a GvG, or small team fights, or one on one duel, whisper me in game. We can set something up that’d be much more fair and fun for all of us.

Also for those of you who have not read the forums, Arena Net is changing the numbers of servers in the tournament from Two tournaments of 12 servers, to Three tournaments of 6 servers in gold leage, 9 in silver league, and 9 in bronze league.

I know many of you could probably care less, but I figured I would put that out there to my fellow WvW’ers.

Sources: https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/world-vs-world-season-1-begins-october-18/

If you want to see what servers will be in our league, servers 16 through 24 are the ones we will all be competing against.

http://mos.millenium.org/na

Jakare.6807:

Classy as kitten henge. Minutes in and youre camping us at our spawn. I CAN’T HANDLE THE PRO SKILL LEVELS!!!11!1

Problem is, you were in our BL. We wanted to leave that whole time, but you guys and IoM wouldn’t leave. So we stayed.

Sorry.

Yawn sausages. Don’t blame YB guys, blame Arena Nets silly RNG.

HOWEVER, you [One] guys on YB. I want a piece of your guild next time we cross paths.

This is not an attempt to talk crap, but rather commend. That particular fight was one of the best and longest fights we’ve had against YB.

Skip to0 seconds.

[VLK] is looking for a couple of Mesmers for WvW.

Whisper Bllade.1029 or send an in-game mail for more details.

Man I gotta say, this new random match generator has really been f’ing everyone lately. It’s like there are no competitive matches any more. It’s either a complete blow out, or get dominated. This new upcoming tournament deal didn’t help things at all.

Crystal Desert, IoJ, and now Yaks Bend.

Just give me NSP and Darkhaven. And let’s do the kitten thang!

Yaks Bend, I blame you guys for this…..

Look what you did to [VLK].

Justine.6351:

Portaled SF BL Bay inner half hour ago ;-)
Think you are right on not caring cause I saw no sweep.
Nearly had inner hills in SF BL but they got me after 5min ;-(

Pssssssssst. No one cares.

Sincerely,

Everyone.

Soooooooooooooooooooo

Friday yet?

3 weeks in a row. CD-IoJ-YB.

Come on. Jesus Christ.

Myro Pyro.1749:

Bllade.1029:

And now we have come across one of the main reasons about why we left Darkhaven.

Dominated by 2-3 Large guilds, guild leaders having control issues/egos getting in the way of teamwork. On top of a PvE population that attacks enemy zergs like they’re farming karka. Doesn’t work against organized groups, leads to fail, leads to demoralization. No one takes the time to teach, only to criticize.

Throws 50 people in a gate, pugs don’t listen. Die. Cry. And leave. DH loses. Like this on all servers, right? Wrong. Great people, terrible WvW population and guild leaders. Namely two, three actually but he’s gone with [MoRt]

Losing [Abys] and [SE] was the best thing to happen to Darkhaven in a very long time. More specifically losing Leone Di Crybaby was the best thing to ever happen to that server.

I see it now. “Wait a second, we lost to HoD?” Thus the the straw that broke the camels back. #kittenstorminfullmotion

Oh wait a second, new tournament coming up? Let’s conveniently transfer to the #13 server to just about guarantee us a win. Look how awesome we are. Let’s talk about that server loyalty i’ve heard so much about.

Be happy Darkhaven, you may not perform the same in WvW, but your community just got a heck of a lot better and that is much more important.

#Transfer2win guilds ftw.

Bllades are you really talking kitten about SE and Abyss? If I’m not correct, you left DH because you couldn’t handle the drama, too many egos, a lot which that you started. Then you went to HoD to have a better atmosphere, less drama, and whatnot. And that’s exactly what we did. And if you didn’t know already, SE and Abyss were a big part of the community in DH, but you wouldn’t know because you are on HoD so you are pulling lots of massive kitten out of your kitten . Lovely isn’t it?

So let me tell you this, if you want to begin talking kitten, speaking on subjects and information that you don’t know 100% of, you shouldn’t even speak upon it because you will only get shut down. And I’m shutting you down son. If you have more to say on this matter, and you still think you are correct, Please by all means let me know

You know what Myro, you’re right. My memories of old times seem to stick, and i’m sure things have changed. Sorry about that, wasn’t right to generalize an entire guild on the actions of one person.

Just angry that things didn’t work out back on Darkhaven, so much potential ruined by the attitudes of a few. You should remember that very clearly, as you were hte one who pointed it out and tried to fix it. I shouldn’t have brought that to these forums, that was pretty childish, so I apologize.

Anyways, good luck.

Assassin X.8573:

so we finally took DH border back…

HoD i REALLY REALLY REALLY hope that you have a good explanation of how you ported golems from outer gate once it was down, directly into the ramparts of inner with all walls and gates of inner 100% intact, clearly in excess of 5000 range…

also a group of HoD earlier today got into inner of HoD hills with no mesmer. all outer walls 100% intact. no one had repaired anything at HoD Hills (there was nothing to repair no holes in walls or gates).

We hacked the code of GW2 and modified it to allow golems to walk through walls, and mesmersports to go an excess of 1 million range. We would of just made them fly, but were trying to be discrete as possible. Keep it down will you.

And now we have come across one of the main reasons about why we left Darkhaven.

Dominated by 2-3 Large guilds, guild leaders having control issues/egos getting in the way of teamwork. On top of a PvE population that attacks enemy zergs like they’re farming karka. Doesn’t work against organized groups, leads to fail, leads to demoralization. No one takes the time to teach, only to criticize.

Throws 50 people in a gate, pugs don’t listen. Die. Cry. And leave. DH loses. Like this on all servers, right? Wrong. Great people, terrible WvW population and guild leaders. Namely two, three actually but he’s gone with [MoRt]

Losing [Abys] and [SE] was the best thing to happen to Darkhaven in a very long time. More specifically losing Leone Di Crybaby was the best thing to ever happen to that server.

I see it now. “Wait a second, we lost to HoD?” Thus the the straw that broke the camels back. #kittenstorminfullmotion

Oh wait a second, new tournament coming up? Let’s conveniently transfer to the #13 server to just about guarantee us a win. Look how awesome we are. Let’s talk about that server loyalty i’ve heard so much about.

Be happy Darkhaven, you may not perform the same in WvW, but your community just got a heck of a lot better and that is much more important.

#Transfer2win guilds ftw.

Heibi.4251:

Bllade,
I can sort of agree with this. But I tend to look at the unintended consequences. This might drive people who are casual WvW’ers to sign up quickly so they have a chance at the prize. Other hardcore players might get left out because they didn’t press the mouse button to sign up fast enough.

But I agree with you for the most part. Something needs to be done to reward more competitive players. Maybe just scale the reward to how many of the achievements a player can accomplish during league play. Then you won’t need the Competitive and Casual servers. And maybe base the server’s performance on player achievement completion as well as score(or maybe that’s already the plan).

You dont think a 20 gold per ticket or gem cost would deter the casuals from the more competitive?

I dont see a casual WvW’er paying 20 gold for a ticket without knowing what kind of rewards would be in store for them. IF they won. Plus, if you think about it, servers would want to send their best, because rewards would only be based on the competitive performance, however EVERYONE would be rewarded. Just the competitive people would get extra. Would it be 20g worth extra? Maybe. maybe not.

DEVON if you’re reading this, I just wanted to say something POSITIVE to you:

I know your job is difficult, and you guys are doing your best. Forget the complainers, can’t make everyone happy.

Suggestion though: And please let me know if this is even possible.

Is it possible to create a function where people can register to participate in this competition, and there are only a limited number of spots to be filled specifically for this competition? Like what if you made two different WvW servers? One for the competitors and the other for casual PvE’ers.

Make the competitive version of WvW cost an amount of gold to participate in, so only the people who truly care about WvW show up. And limit the number of spots available for people in the competitive server at one time. So release something in the gem store or something, and in limited number “Here is your ticket to participate in the WvW upcoming tournament, there are X amount of these left.”

The other server would house the casual players who just want to go into wvw and mess around, smack some dolyaks and be on their way. No cap on this server other than your already existing cap. No fee or anything just normal WvW shenanigans.

Same reward system as what you set in place, however the people who actually participated get something extra. Something worth while, something to where everyone would cheer their representing team on. I think this would really pull servers together, get the best they could muster and really drive competitive teamplay.

At the same time it would even the odds, even a server with 10,000 people would only have 200 slots. Same goes for servers with only 1000 people. It would make people choose the best of what they had, and the casual players would still be able to go into wvw like normal and have fun.

Not only would selling those tickets be good for your revenue there at ArenaNet, but it would also even the odds. Pull a community together, and bring out the best of what each server had to participate in a competitive environment.

TLDR: 1. Seperate WvW into 2 servers: Competitive and Casual
2. Release a gem store item in limited quantity to participate in this competitve server
3. Limit the amount of tickets available to be purchased
4. Rewards should be based on the competitive servers performance, not the casual, However everyone should be rewarded. Competitive players should also reap better rewards who participated.

GG Arena Net RNG ftw

Mepheles.2087:

Is every person from VLK a dirty little snob?

Yes, we’re very dirty.

Bow chicka bow wwoowww ;D

Grimno.6172:

It’s been some pretty fun fights this week.
Though this week our numbers for DH have been lacking… don’t even recall ever having a que for EB like usual, and when I ask in TS what’s going on, where our guys are, they tell me
“Farming gold”
Last night we had the guys finally show up and that night was DH kicking butt left and right, busting down SF, knocking back HoD, but then once they go back to gold farming then we lose our BL, lol.

Though from what I’ve seen, I do have some advice for all servers.

Darkhaven – Use… the ****ing.. .CANNONS. SM has cannons on the third floor. When we lost the Fortified SM yesterday, someone on that cannon probably could have prevented it. But no one ever uses the cannons. I say this because… this is at least the 10th time I’ve seen this happen. Also… if an enemy is attacking something, give an estimate on how many, so we know how to respond.
We need better communication! Was how we lost a few tier 3 towers in our LL.

Henge of Denravi – Need to work a bit on keeping their members in line, can give the server a bad name as shown with Sinester up there. This week with what was going on in the forums made me feel that HoD was the CoD server.

Sorrows Furnace – I’m gonna be honest here. From when we fought you guys weeks ago, you were much stronger then. Not sure what happened since then, but you guys really have dropped in quality. Usually I see you guys acting like vultures now, pecking at whichever is doing the worst at the time to try and score points. And when you do have the power to take towers and keeps, you instead run around as just one large blob that takes things slowly, or get repealed. (Example – Klovan, Jerrifers)
Lastly… STOP… WASTING… GOLEMS! I’m not saying “Muahahah! You cannot take our keeps!” No, not that. Outside WC near the start of the week a lone Omega at full health just started waltzing around the sentry between WC and SM… and had 2 people with it who then ran off… and then the Omega got swarmed and destroyed!
Stop doing that. Keep track of your golems.

Anyone else thinking the same thing I am about this entire comment?

Mepheles.2087:

I admit, I got a little heated in this thread, but it takes more than numbers. a blob is nothing without good players, so whatever happens, good game.

So you can’t spam 1 and run through a bunch of people without being a good player?

Go on.

So before everyone gets all kitteny and thinks they’re the greatest thing since sliced bread, there’s only one reason were winning this week.

Late night coverage. DH’s night presence blows. Its the only thing that keeps them from going up a tier.

There is a valuable lesson to be learned in all of this here it is:

WvW has very little to do with skill or ability. It’s about population, and coverage.
If you have a high WvW population and great coverage, you go up tiers. This is regardless if you’re good or not.

The skill level rapidly changes i’d say around T4 area, where everyone is a part of large and organized WvW guilds. That’s where you start to see what real WvW tactics and abilities look like. Not popping a 100 gold icon and sending 50 bodies through a gate.

Only reason I even say all of this, is because I know people are going to talk mad crap. When in the end all three of these servers in this tier look like a bunch of window lickers on the short bus compared to higher tiers.

Kaineng was a good example of what high tier ability level looks like. Regardless of what anyone from HoD says, we were outplayed hands down.

So good match-up, i’ve enjoyed myself. Although dealing with Abys and SE gets annoying, it’s still been a good time.

SEcond best fight of the night. Any of you DH’ers in there?

This was the best fight of the night. Seriously, the most fun we’ve had in a very long time.

Acium. Come to daddy.