Guild Wars 2

The downed state is a replacement for the holy trinity, and there is no way the holy trinity will be redesigned into GW2.

The much anticipated Yishis post nerf Thief video. Enjoy!

Our teamspeak server was recently being DDOS’ed, but no one knows who we are… it was actually another server on the same box that was being DDOS’ed. If your host has more than one teamspeak, it might not be yours that is the target.

Fixeon.5076:

Liquid.9672:

You have to understand Boulderbolg and his guild to understand why he might say that. His guild prefers small scale open field encounters, like 5v5 or 10v10, which has been very difficult for them to find in T1, while they found it quite often back when we were in T2. So it’s absolutely not about wanting to be the big bully in town, but rather finding fights more in line with their preferred playstyle.

I think we all miss the smaller scale battles. I am sure my video card does. But I don’t think you are going to see much of that in T2 either. I had hoped that it would die down a bit after a week but people are still obsessed with ranks.

The skirmishing in T2 when we were there last was spot on for our play style… always active, and TC/FA never give up. We enjoyed it a lot as a small guild. The reason we stay on BG is because of people like Liquid. I’ve never played with him or even spoken to him, but he still has my back on a public forum when I say something stupid.

Pirhana.8935:

cosmicegg.8502:

DAoC 2 AKA camelot unchained after 4 days at kickstarter over 800k funded almost halfway there.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/13861848/camelot-unchained?ref=live

Im all for Camelot Unchained but I really think TESO will bring the RVR that Everyone has been wanting since DAOC. It will have ES combat but if you look at stuff it uses teh same style as DAOC, no cool downs all abilities use endureance and power from you bar you need to manage. there is active blocking and power attacks so it could actually be better. On the other side it will still have a PVE game for people who like to do both

I am skeptical, but I am hopeful. Skyrim hasn’t done an MMO, and that concerns me. I am predicting a lot of silly dev mistakes, but I am hoping the game will be good. My money is on Camelot Unchained (literally)!

Thanks for all of your concerns for Blackgate, but we will be just fine. I predict that the main zerg guilds we have here (ICoa, KnT, and LOTD), will remain until we bump down to T2, at which point the server can have fun again!

Make sure you pick a server that has a prime time that fits your schedule! We found that after prime time, anything under T2 is dead and boring.

Can’ wait for Camelot Unchained! Go support the Kickstarter and get yourself into the beta, people!

Zoose, RIOT would love to have you! You can check out our vids in the link in my sig, and visit the forums. PM me in game and we can chat in ts if you like.

With the supervisor buff fixed, supply camps are harder to take at will. Otherwise nothing has changed with supply camps for small groups. Supply Camps are designed to be capturable by small groups.

If you can’t defend an upgraded supply camp, than you need to work on your zerg’s mobility. Good T1 zerg guilds can keep a camp day and night without losing ground elsewhere.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Suggestion-From-Solo-and-Small-Group

pot.6805:

Score update brought to you by this guy

That is one creepy Asura, Mikey.

Can someone from EMP contact me in game please?

Zergs will always exist. I don’t have any problem with that at all. I just want a few more small groups to fight against, that’s all.

Every small group player I have talked to has one request that would make WvW amazing; split WXP between attackers. It doesn’t have to be a straight forward split, but giving one player who kills one enemy player 70 WXP, and giving 50 people a total of 3500 WXP for killing the the same enemy player does not make sense. Will Anet be looking into this?

T2 is where you want to be. In our experience it is the perfect medium between high action, good competition, yet the zergs aren’t as stupid big as they are in T1. TC is fun to fight against. FA tends to zerg a bit more from memory, but that is forgivable (<3 Bit). Kaineng offers some meta competition. You get the best of everything there. Of course, you never know who is going to be in T2 for how long.

Magische Boek.2530:

Kaga.7629:

Using a no-target rush for mobility is something i have not seen in the whole vid.

look again

i enjoyed watching actuallly ;p seeing those numbers fly off with the 100b haha must be pretty frightning for an opponent

Thanks

Alt F4 is back baby!!

In case anyone here is wondering/speculating , SpitfireXD no longer represents Team Riot and hasn’t for a few weeks now.

Good luck with finding your new home, Miya!

LilMcGinley.3890:

Boulderbolg.3460:

Burl.9567:

So Riot, Agg and FoE are all leaving?

Woah woah woah! I am not sure where that rumor came from. Yeah, we’ve been QQ’ing here and there about the T1 zergs, but RIOT currently has no intentions of even thinking about moving off of Blackgate. We’ve worked hard to get to know the other great small guilds on this server (Invi, oPP, AAO, etc), as well as the larger guilds. We would definitely prefer it if BG drops to T2, but we aren’t going to back down from no T1 guilds!

:)

The rumor probably came from one of your GMs posting a topic looking for medium pop servers to show him “what they offered”. I even personally talked to him about the move.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Attention-medium-pop-servers

EDIT: not sure if GM but someone who has ties to [RIOT], simple look at his post history shows “see more [riot] vids here”.. so yeah

Ah ha! Well, this person was in our guild for about 2 weeks and left a few weeks ago. Thanks for pointing that out to me though.

Burl.9567:

So Riot, Agg and FoE are all leaving?

Woah woah woah! I am not sure where that rumor came from. Yeah, we’ve been QQ’ing here and there about the T1 zergs, but RIOT currently has no intentions of even thinking about moving off of Blackgate. We’ve worked hard to get to know the other great small guilds on this server (Invi, oPP, AAO, etc), as well as the larger guilds. We would definitely prefer it if BG drops to T2, but we aren’t going to back down from no T1 guilds!

:)

Kaga.7629:

Sorry to say champ, but it looks like your friends are carrying you.

- You’re not using the pletora of skills at your disposal, Hell, you’re trying to run away from fights sometimes without swiftness when you got ragesig all charged up. Using a no-target rush for mobility is something i have not seen in the whole vid.
- Still using bullfrenzyendure ( was video pre-patch ?)
- Using a shield for the stun, not even using the 3 second block when you’re closing up to 2 guys using ranged against you…

You still have a lot of playmanship finesse to learn, but i guess it’s a good start.

I definitely get carried by my friends.

Point one, I am not sure what video you were watching.
Point two, yes pre-patch.
Point three, if you notice I tried using both block and shield stun on that fight but was blinded.

Thanks for your feedback though. I do think that my use of Signet or Rage is something I need to work on.

I am certainly not the best Warrior out there, but I get to play with a good team and wreck baddies! Enjoy my first GW2 video featuring Yishis, Vessu Verra, and the rest of the RIOT crew.

Regardless of who is staying or leaving, we’ve had fun in T1 with you, JQ and SoR. Here’s a video of the last few weeks with a few small skirmish fights from our perspective. Keep ’em coming, folks!

My first WvW video. Solo and small group skirmishing, featuring Yishis, Vessu Verra, and the rest of the RIOT crew. Enjoy!

Ilthel [RIOT] on Blackgate server – Solo and small skirmishing:

Jscull.2514:

PAXA only cares about skirmishes. All 5 of us log on only to kill people. If you are concerned for a second about the games “meta” then yea you’re probably in the right place.

I think I wasn’t clear in my response to you. What I meant was that on Yaks Bend the server often was disorganized to the point where we would lose everything and there wouldn’t be a meta happening at all. Without meta, the game is dead. We would zone into a map, start taking towers to create action, and find ourselves in charge of a zerg. In T1/T2 we don’t have to worry about the meta at all. It’s a catch 22 for us small groups.

Jscull.2514:

Boulderbolg.3460:

chrisk.4320:

Yo OP, it works both ways. You can now see the zerg from a far distance. Oh hey? What’s that I see in the distance? Is that you Mr. Zerg? I guess I won’t go that way!

Scouting 101.

That is entirely my point. Everyone keeps saying that they can see the zergs now, and that is great and all, but we would be joking ourselves to say that culling did not work in our favor as well. My experience last night was basically running away from zergs nearly the entire time. The organized zergs weren’t much of a problem, but the mindless ones of 30-40 people would chase us in big loops around the mountains of North Hills! This is what I meant by how will your tactics/builds change to avoid getting zerged now that the zerg can actually see you.

don’t get me wrong our 5 man kited some major Zerg action. Don’t complain about it of you are on a higher tier. Move down. We fight in t7 t6 due to more 5 man action and smaller (relatively) Zergs. I’ve invited you guys numerous times to join our tier to 5 man all the time. If you’re going to stay upper, deal with 70 mans.

The invitation is great appreciated, don’t get me wrong. Our problem with the lower tiers is that we have players with a wide range of timezones. There were two reasons we left Yaks Bend: 1. Our late night players couldn’t find enough action, and 2. More and more we felt the need to concentrate on the meta game rather than just let someone else worry about taking towers leaving us to being able to just skirmish.

How is Tier 2 going for small guilds?

chrisk.4320:

Yo OP, it works both ways. You can now see the zerg from a far distance. Oh hey? What’s that I see in the distance? Is that you Mr. Zerg? I guess I won’t go that way!

Scouting 101.

That is entirely my point. Everyone keeps saying that they can see the zergs now, and that is great and all, but we would be joking ourselves to say that culling did not work in our favor as well. My experience last night was basically running away from zergs nearly the entire time. The organized zergs weren’t much of a problem, but the mindless ones of 30-40 people would chase us in big loops around the mountains of North Hills! This is what I meant by how will your tactics/builds change to avoid getting zerged now that the zerg can actually see you.

Brando.1374:

right now there will be zergs everywhere because people feel like they need max wvw lv ASAP. once that dies down zergs will go back to Pve as they will get bored of Pvd and the ppl left where the ones you fought before.

Unfortunately we play in T1, and it is always zergy. For us moving to another server isn’t an option (we like the non stop action of T1). However, maybe we shouldn’t be closed minded about moving…

How has no culling effected your small roaming group? Last night we decided to roam in the enemy territory as we always do, and it felt like we ended up running away from zergs nearly the entire time. While getting zergs to chase you all around might be good for our side’s meta, it was frustrating and boring. I think that kiting is going to have to be a big addition to the way we play, rather than going balls deep into the tail of a zerg. How has your small roaming group been effected by no culling, and what adjustments is your group making?

Helspyre.7082:

Boulderbolg.3460:

All they had to do is take a lesson from DAoC and split the WXP between attackers. Zergs would be a lot smaller, and small group wvw would be incredible. Then again, it seems like most of the GW2 player base prefers to zerg, so perhaps Anet is just doing what the bulk of the WvW player base wants. Sucks being the minority. :/

My guild has been away for a little while waiting for this so-called WvW patch. You just answered the question I was going to ask. Not really interested in logging in now.

Agree with you 100%.

Yeah, the only diminishing return or anything like that is how frequently a player has died. so if someone zergs and dies over and over, they won’t be worth much. I’ve hit a downed player once or twice and received +2 WXP, and another downed player and received +40 WXP. You might be able to find more players who die less as a small roaming guild, but I don’t know if that will make up for the fewer kills. The leader boards might also be a joke…

All they had to do is take a lesson from DAoC and split the WXP between attackers. Zergs would be a lot smaller, and small group wvw would be incredible. Then again, it seems like most of the GW2 player base prefers to zerg, so perhaps Anet is just doing what the bulk of the WvW player base wants. Sucks being the minority. :/

If you want incentives for non-zergers, just split WXP between all of the attackers, DAOC style.

Yeah this game isn’t DAoC, but that doesn’t mean that this stuff hasn’t already been done right a LONG time ago.

Unfortunately if this isn’t the way the system will work, zerging will be encouraged even more.

Now I need to get some doritos…

We are currently recruiting all classes (thieves if you an beat Yishis)!

Vanthian.9267:

I know it has been said but you are proving my point by posting a Warrior video of him almost going under to a under level “not so good” thief. In a fair 1v1 fight Warrior (any build) vs Dagger/Pistol Thief, the Thief will win if he is not 1) Under leveled, 2) Bad at his class, 3) Makes more than 10 mistakes. In the case of (1) he still might win if he is skilled. Only (2) and (3) really make a thief lose to a Warrior. At worst, if the Thief realizes the Warrior is a tank and he can’t “one shot” him, he will just stealth and run away.

What does it take for a skilled Warrior to lose a fight? 1) One Mistake at any level with any gear against any class.

Your assessment makes me feel like a pro warrior.

Vanthian.9267:

The Thief has more utility and can be more useful for WvW. They are also better at 1v1 with the right build. A good dagger/pistol thief will destroy any Warrior.

If you mainly do PvE the Warrior would suit better. They are usually wanted more in dungeons for Dps. Not to say that a Thief isn’t useful in a dungeons; just that the majority of the population in the game doesn’t understand what a Thief can bring to a dungeon group. I would personally prefer to run a Thief, with 80% of the damage and with 500% times the ability to survive, over a Warrior.

If you like the idea of a Warrior, I would suggest a Guardian. They are needed in everything and can do 60-75% of the damage of a Warrior while still being 800% better at surviving.

Sadly, I chose a Warrior as my main at launch (should have went Guardian)… but there is hope they will get buffed. (Just not any time soon).

Hope it helps.

Here is a good example of thieves owning a solo warrior in WvW:

Defektive.7283:

Atherakhia.4086:

Lets turn this into a ‘good warrior youtube videos’ thread and count the number of videos with frenzy GS builds! Go!

twitch.tv/defektive

http://www.youtube.com/user/T3hSanny

I believe that applying group buffs to actual group members only instead of random people would help small groups. That system worked well in DAoC. Sure, the zerg can just clump more but doing so is not as easy for them as it is for a 1-2 groups.

Fjandi.2516:

Very nice video as usual. But let’s be honest, it’s impressive how bad most wvw players are.

Yeah, there does seem to be an abundance of players who prefer to “zerg” in large groups. I think this definitely has a an effect on how well a player performs in small skirmishes. A lot of that also has to do with zerg specs, but the more people zerg, the less they can handle themselves against a good solo/small group player.

I this it’s a product of the game though. DAoC encouraged solo and small group player through the mechanics of the game. This game doesn’t do that unfortunately.

TC… role players are nice to each other, but mean to the enemy!

As someone that plays with Yishis a lot I can tell you he is one of the best thieves I have played with. I’ve watched him pull off some crazy stuff whilst I lay dead on the ground and other thieves have either died or fled.

There are a few fights in this video that I would argue are not “easy fights”, particularly the D/D Ele fight.

In my opinion, Yishis’s best commentary Thief video yet. Among his usual great commentary, in this video he touches on how to deal with a well played D/D Elementalist.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XubClqLgJnY

In my opinion, Yishis’s best commentary Thief video yet. Among his usual great commentary, in this video he touches on how to deal with a well played D/D Elementalist.

Yishis released a 4th Outnumbered Commentary video today!

Pvp.2758:

Streaming Live Ganking, 1v1 me, whisper.

Ahh.. my guildies 2v1’ed you!

Ahh.. my guildies 2v1’ed you!I am not sure why the forums duplicates the above sentence. o.O

Ahh.. my guildies 2v1’ed you!I am not sure why the forums duplicates the above sentence. o.O

Taldek.6105:

Regarding the interruption of the GvG thing:
Bad form: An offense against current social convention
For those that would argue that current mechanics allow it is not a valid argument against it being bad form. That is equivolent to saying that because something is not illegal that it is ethical.

With all due respect, but who defines “bad form”? The players that do GvG seem to have taken the liberty to do so, but the players who don’t do GvG might define “bad form” as organized duels in a PvP zone. This isn’t the first game to have this debate, although other games usually had a more of a benefit to killing players other than bags. Both definitions are subjective, and being self righteous about it certainly isn’t going to change anyone’s mind.

The bottom line is that GvG/duels are going to get rolled from time to time, and all those players can do is make a “blacklist” of players/guilds that will be fought off if they try to participate themselves.

FallenZippy.8106:

Boulderbolg.3460:

FallenZippy.8106:

Regarding the GvG thing , you all know this is “OPEN” world v.s world were “ALL” servers kill each other right .. now dont get me wrong i love the occasional duel on 1v1 or 5 v5 that iconic guild douse with other bg jq guilds but whekittenerg rushes in and kills us i dont get kitten y…. do you know why? Because its OPEN PVP! you have to expected to get steamrolled sooner or later and to be honost you all shouldnt be btching about it in the forums becuase wvw was desighned for players to kill each ….telling us we cant interfere in server fights is like telling me not to build my golems or a bird not to fly . I don’y know man but thats my two cents well im out see you on the battlefield with omegas

Lol… us old school DAoC players used to have a standard response to anyone QQ’ing on the VN boards, “Sounds like someone died in a (PvP) zone.” Fear rolled your GvG? Wo/Man up and don’t cry about it, folks!

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I was agreeing with you.

FallenZippy.8106:

Regarding the GvG thing , you all know this is “OPEN” world v.s world were “ALL” servers kill each other right .. now dont get me wrong i love the occasional duel on 1v1 or 5 v5 that iconic guild douse with other bg jq guilds but whekittenerg rushes in and kills us i dont get kitten y…. do you know why? Because its OPEN PVP! you have to expected to get steamrolled sooner or later and to be honost you all shouldnt be btching about it in the forums becuase wvw was desighned for players to kill each ….telling us we cant interfere in server fights is like telling me not to build my golems or a bird not to fly . I don’y know man but thats my two cents well im out see you on the battlefield with omegas

Lol… us old school DAoC players used to have a standard response to anyone QQ’ing on the VN boards, “Sounds like someone died in a (PvP) zone.” Fear rolled your GvG? Wo/Man up and don’t cry about it, folks!